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Davie
Now I hope someone recognises this wee boozers
I would appreciate any help, as I don't have a clue.
I bet not many of you knew that!
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clapton
Davie... can you remember the Trolley Bus routes?..
or .. can you access them on the PC
clapton
The area looks a bit like heading up towards Summerston..

Then again... The name of the pub .. could be close to Rouken Glen
valros
Davy,
That's an old photo but yes,I can tell you.

The place is Germiston between Garngad and Blackhill. Can even tell you that the trolley bus was either a 101 or 102, both went up Royston Road at that time.

The pub was known as "the wee Glen Bar" because there was another Glen bar near the beginning of Royston Road.

Hope this solves your mystery smile.gif

Valros
clapton
Oh... I was close... Knew it was in Glasgow biggrin.gif

valros.. An authority on old Glasgow pubs????
valros
Clapton, I'm not telling you about whether I'm an authority on pubs or not !!

You were close okay, just the opposite end of the City!

Valros rolleyes.gif
Davie
QUOTE
Davie... can you remember the Trolley Bus routes?..


Wurr no aw as auld as you Jim.

I'll tell you whit the problem is.
I have a wee brickwork of a pub done by Tommy Smith.
I am sure you will have seen some of his pieces.
There is an argument (a discussion to us GG punters) among my mates as to the name of the joint.
Until Sunday. I was sure it was the Stag bar.
I was informed to the contrary, by the daughter of person who left me the figure, that it is was the Glen bar.
But she did not know where it was situated.

I know at least three
Riddrieperson
QUOTE (valros @ 20th Feb 2006, 10:22 PM)
Davy,
That's an old photo but yes,I can tell you.

The place is Germiston  between Garngad and Blackhill. Can even tell you that the trolley bus was either a 101 or 102, both went up Royston Road at that time.

The pub was  known as "the wee Glen Bar" because there was another Glen bar near the beginning of Royston Road.

Hope this solves your mystery

Valros

The Big Glen
59-61, Royston Rd, Royston, Glasgow, Lanarkshire G21 2QW
Tel: 0141 552 1598

I think this has now been renamed McGrorys,will let you know when I pass it in the morning. biggrin.gif
valros
The Big Glen was later called Wilson's, and as recent as last Thursday I was told it was now called "The Garngad Bar" ????

Valros
Davie
QUOTE
The pub was known as "the wee Glen Bar" because there was another Glen bar near the beginning of Royston Road.


Excellent Valros.

Here is wee brick,
You think it is either Glen?
As the name has been rubbed off, I know it could be any pub.
However, as all the other ones he left me have been identified.
His daughter, I think would know the pubs her Faither drank in.
valros
Davie,
It is quite hard to say for sure but---I remember the Big Glen had no houses above it, but the Wee one in Gemiston did have.
Do you know what area Tommy Smith came from?

Valros
Davie
Not 100% sure where Tommy lived Valros, but he went to Onslow Drive school.
Ages wey masel.
If memory serves me, he lived across the molendiner burn, near Gallagher's fag factory.
Worked at the Barras.
Tommy made these wee pieces to order.
he used to trawl the building sites looking for suitable material.
These are all made from ordinary building bricks
Here is another one, bit more recogniseable.
Well, it might be, if ah kid take a decent photie.
valros
Hi Davie,

If he lived near Gallagher's Cigarette factory he must have came from around Dennistoun or even possibly Milburn which is heading for the Rosemount area.

I just wondered why he would drink in a pub in Germiston if he didn't come from the area, but again he could have had relatives there!!
The minute I saw your photo I thought Germiston right away, it was a familiar area to me
His daughter would clear it all up I'm sure

Interesting photos Davie, I love old Glasgow ones.

Valros smile.gif
Davie
Hi Valros
It wasn't Tommy that drank in the Glen.
He was the artist.

The auld fella that left me the pieces was Wullie Gallagher.
He was born in the Calton (Market Street)and was one of the last true hawkers.
Wullie, picked up some amazings odds and sods on his travels and you could meet up with him in mony a strange boozers.
Though, other than the Glen. (which, I did not know about)
He had the Scotia, Empire Bar, Whistlin' Kirk, Lynch's and occasionaly the Shipbank.
In the far North....
The Widow's, Cadder Vaults, The Bells. Thompsons.
These are only the ones I knew him to be a regular in recent years.
Though I first met him in the Regal in the Gallowgate.
Ah'll be surprised if oanywan can tell me whit it is called nooadays.

When he died Wullie was living in the flats at Sitehill.
Here is anither pic furr ye Valros.
In yer ain territory.
Waant not only the name o' the boozers but the two streets.
Wullnie puuush for the owner, but wid be impressed if ye could come up wey that anaw.
(it is awright furr me, I have the book)


Awrabest
Davie
valros
Hi Davie,

My mistake,I thought it was Tommy who lived near the ciggie factory.

Wish I knew where I could buy that book you have on the old Garngad and Townhead.

Your photo--it looks more like Castle Street to me just across from the Royal Infirmary, if that is correct then the I think the two streets could be Castle Street and Glebe Street.

Such a long time ago and irrespective to what Clapton said--I'm not an authority on pubs,far from it biggrin.gif

I will try and think about the name of the pub but first, let me know if I'm correct with the Street names.

Valros
keelie gal
The wee brick is the saracen heed in the calton i know that wee brick as my boyfriend was born ubove the sarry head wink.gif
Davie
Aye, as they say Valros,
"The boay done guid"
It was taken from the book
Glasgow pubs
Definitely should be on your shelf.
As far as I am aware it is still in print, and even second hand, I have never seen it sell for under 6
The boozer was called the Cot.
Don't mind it myself, but it was, as you so rightly pointed oot, at 69 Castle Street and 4 Glebe street and closed around 1980 to make way for the motorway.
Davie
QUOTE
The wee brick is the saracen heed in the calton i know that wee brick as my boyfriend was born ubove the sarry head


My, that boay has come a long way since he started gawn oot wey you Lass!

He isnae a Rubin, Solomon, Curran or Ross is he?
They were aw posh that steyed in yon buildin'
Fancy back yerd.
valros
Davie,
I do remember the Cot Bar, the name wouldn't come to mind though. thanks for the name of the book

Your other picture has to be the Boundary Bar in Springburn ?????

Valros
Davie
Just noticed yer were in the city Valros.
Nae problem wey books then.
Jist let me know what you are looking for.
valros
Davie,
What I've been looking for is a book with photos of the old Garngad and Townhead.
I probably would not recognise the places because everything is all changed now. I would like to see photos of the places though. If you ever come across such a book, will you get the title for me please? Thank you.

Valros
Davie
Hi pal

Richard's yer very man
He has old Townhead's a gonner and ah'm sure ther is wan oan the garngad

I have several DVDs of the city, aw pretty much mince.

http://www.stenlake.co.uk/
valros
Thanks for that Davie, I would be interested in the Townhead one too.
I didn't see anything in their list about the Garngad but I have sent an e-mail and asked if they could help

Valros
Davie
When in doubt,
Ask the big brother

He has the Finnie book on the Garngad
I don't know it.

http://www.roystonroadproject.org/archive/.../conclusion.htm

I phoned him and was also informed that Cooper has the first edition of the Beano on sale.
Offers over 3000.
valros
Thanks again Davie, I have just spent ages reading through it.
Couldn't help smiling when James Friel mentioned the fact that his Italian father in law was known as Joe the barber and indeed he was, he was the first barber to cut my very long hair when I was about to start school!!

I'm hoping to be able to get the books, "The good and the Bad" and the Townhead one.
Appreciate your information

Valros smile.gif
Riddrieperson


The former Big Glen.Taken today at 17:50 GMT on a Sagem MY-X6
Riddrieperson
QUOTE (Davie @ 21st Feb 2006, 03:09 PM)
My, that boay has come a long way since he started gawn oot wey you Lass!

He isnae a Rubin, Solomon, Curran or Ross is he?
They were aw posh that steyed in yon buildin'
Fancy back yerd.

That picture was taken last Saturday,I remember seeing that wee man when I passed on the bus. biggrin.gif
valros
Kenny,

thanks for the photo. As I said, I was just told last week it had changed to the Garngad Bar.

You might have went in to library when you were up there and see if they sell the books I'm looking for rolleyes.gif ha ha

Valros
valros
Davie,

Got an answer to my e-mail from the book place, they told me to search on Amazon but I can't see it on that site. Will ask my son to have a look in the book shops.

Valros
surnom vert
Davie, that is a smashing photo of the wee glen.
Where did you get it?
I am currently trying to build up a wee website dedicated to Germiston, trying to pull all the information to one place - I remember that spot, sometime in the 1970s. At that time it was the pub and the bookies. I can't remember if the dairy was there, between the pub and the bookies, or if the dairy was now the bookies?? Can anyone clarify.
As I remember that corner, it was much like the brickwork, shown previously, i.e, the surrounding tenements (which I am assuming ran up Forge Street) had been demolished, leaving a 'gable end' by the bookies. Unlike the brickwork, the flats above had been demolished. I remember, as a child, when my granny would go into the bookies, I would play in the backcourt, which can be seen in the photos. I am also curious about the wall on the left. Did this contain Germiston Piggery, or was that further up, where Coll Place Multis are?
valros
Surnom Vert,

When I was at school I palled about with a girl from Forge Street,
she lived in the now demolished tenements.
Although it's practically "a lifetime" since I was there, I remember it pretty well. The piggery you spoke about was where Royston Road met Garnkirk Street.

Valros
valros
I should have said that the piggery was was not in use at that time so it obviously closed many years before. People still referred to it though. I hope I have the street name right but it was either Garnkirk St. or Darnick St.

Valros
surnom vert
That is Darnick Street. Funnily enough though I think the railway that ran over the blind tunnel was originally called the Glasgow & Garnkirk Railway.
valros
Hi surnom vert,

I remember the blind tunnel okay, took a short cut through it many times to get to Petershill Road.

Don't know the name of the bridge over it though--you are probably correct though smile.gif

Valros
rondo
QUOTE (Davie @ 20th Feb 2006, 10:36pm) *
Not 100% sure where Tommy lived Valros, but he went to Onslow Drive school.
Ages wey masel.
If memory serves me, he lived across the molendiner burn, near Gallagher's fag factory.
Worked at the Barras.
Tommy made these wee pieces to order.
he used to trawl the building sites looking for suitable material.
These are all made from ordinary building bricks
Here is another one, bit more recogniseable.
Well, it might be, if ah kid take a decent photie.


THIS ONE IS THE SARRY HEID PUB IN THE GALLOWGATE AM SURE YOU CAN JUST MAKE OUT THE SARACAN NAME AND THE HOUSES ABOVE IT
rondo
QUOTE (Davie @ 20th Feb 2006, 08:53pm) *
Now I hope someone recognises this wee boozers
I would appreciate any help, as I don't have a clue.
I bet not many of you knew that!
.

MY ANNTIE WORKED IN THESE PUBVS FOR AMNY YRS THEY CAME FAE THE GARNGADE AND SHE WORKED IN THE BIG GLEN FOR ALOT LONGER THEN I REMEMBER USED TO GO DOWN WITH MY MUM TO SEE HER AT WORK AND STOOD OUT SIDE HER NAME WAS HELEN EVANS
rondo
QUOTE (valros @ 21st Feb 2006, 09:27pm) *
Davie,

Got an answer to my e-mail from the book place, they told me to search on Amazon but I can't see it on that site. Will ask my son to have a look in the book shops.

Valros

YOU CAN FIND THE AULD GLESGA BOOK IN A FEW OF THE CHARITY SHOPS SHOULD HAVE A GOOD RUMAMGE
klingon
QUOTE (valros @ 21st Feb 2006, 02:21pm) *
Davie,
What I've been looking for is a book with photos of the old Garngad and Townhead.
I probably would not recognise the places because everything is all changed now. I would like to see photos of the places though. If you ever come across such a book, will you get the title for me please? Thank you.

Valros

If it's any good tae ye I've got a collection of over 60 photos of Toonheid and Parliamentary road scraped up from the internet over the years-some of them REALLY hard to find-send me a PM and I'll mail whatever your looking for back to ye
natalie glover
hi can you tell me where you got the book on the old garngad as i was brought up in coll street and my dad drunk in the wee glen, he would love one of the books
thanks can you email it tio me at aidan2511@hotmail.co.uk
natalie welsh
i lived across the road from the piggery and loved it i used to go adventuring around it all day. i hated the blind tunnel though i couldnt get to sleep at night with people beeping their horn to get through!!
lizmac


Hi Klingon,
Sorry to say Valros died last June.
Sad loss,Valros was a lovely lady.
norrie123
Hi Lizmac ,are you talking of GP valar?

Yes still missed by all on GPs

Bye for now, norrie
lizmac


Hi Norrie,
Yes its Valar.She posted a lot on the Garngad thread on here.We grew up there so knew
a lot of the same people.I still miss her we spoke on the phone a lot and had some good
laughs,she was so nice.
It was great meeting you and Claire last year at the GPs"hoose party" won't be able to
make it this year, too much going on over here.
Please say hi to Claire from me.
See you on GPs.
oldglasgowpubs
QUOTE (Davie @ 21st Feb 2006, 02:00pm) *
My, that boay has come a long way since he started gawn oot wey you Lass!

He isnae a Rubin, Solomon, Curran or Ross is he?
They were aw posh that steyed in yon buildin'
Fancy back yerd.

To read more on the history of the Saracen Head visit www.oldglasgowpubs.co.uk

This is where the photograph was taken.
Billy Boil
I wance goat " leggles mortal" in the Sarry an' goat change oot o' the ten bob note I broke on entry.
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