22nd Jun 2005, 12:02pm
I'm looking for information about a Roll of Honour that commemorated the men of Lyon St. (off the Garscube Rd.) who died in WW1.
Made by a local man, it was kept in Kiernan's Bar(?)and brought out each Armistice Day when a small troop from Maryhill Barracks would attend to play 'Flowers of the Forest' and sound the Last Post. This description comes from a book about Bantam regiments.
I have a clipping from the Evening Times of October 1962 marking the demolition of the pub/street/area which asks who will take the Roll into safe keeping. It seems to have gone missing at this point.
I know that a commerative postcard was produced and believe that minuture versions of the Roll were made, perhaps to be sold as souveniers or as copies for the bereaved families.
I'd be grateful for any help on this one.
22nd Jun 2005, 03:08pm
Damairt, you asking about this Roll of Honour is very interesting.
I am originally from the Garscube Road, left there as a school girl in 1953, and just yesterday I heard for the first time about the Roll of Honour regarding the men of Lyon Street who died in the 1st world war.
Yesterday one of my aunts and I went to visit my mum who is in hospital and they started to talk about the old days ( Mum is 93 and my Aunt 86 ). My aunt asked mum if she remembered that Lyon Street lost that many men in the 1st world war, that a Commemorative Plaque was made and kept in St. Joseph's Chapel in North Woodside Road. When the Chapel was demolished the Plaque was given to a woman who's name I cannot remember. I phoned my Aunt just now but she is out. I do remember she said there is a notice in the libraries in the Milton area given details about this Plaque.
Here is a phone no. for a library in Milton 0141 772 1410.
Let me know how you get on as I can phone my aunt again and get the name of the woman for you.
22nd Jun 2005, 03:58pm
Heather, thanks very much for the prompt reply. I'm grateful for any help with this, so a name to follow up would be be great.
It's interesting that you mention it being kept in st. Joseph's as this enquiry was started by a parent with children at St. Joseph's Primary in Raglan St. I work in the Mitchell Library and will contact Milton in the morning.
I look forward to hearing from you with the woman's name.
22nd Jun 2005, 07:50pm
Dimairt, I phoned my aunt and she cannot remember the second name of the woman who is said to have the Plaque. She thinks the first name was Rosa. When you phone the Milton library they should be able to give you the information.
My aunt told me that this Plaque was made because there were more men from Lyon St. killed in the 1st world war than from any other street in Britain. She said there were a lot of single end houses in Lyon St. with big families living in them, so I suppose this accounts for the loss of so many men in the war.
Good Luck with your search. Let me know how you get on.
23rd Jun 2005, 08:25am
Thanks again Heather. I work for Community Learning Serivce in the Mitchell Library - 0141 287 2840 is my direct line. My name is Eddy.
I was giving a talk and slide-show at Woodside Library's centenary on Maryhill in the 50s and 60s when I was asked to help look for information about Roll of Honour.
Like you,I'd never heard of it though my father had as we lived in the area until 1963. I spoke to a friend, another local historian, who told me that he'd just bought a old postcard with a poem commemorating the soldiers from Lyon St. I checked through our newspaper archive and found a story from the Evening Times in 1962 which confirmed the existence of the Roll but gave no clue as to its whereabouts.
(If you'd like a copy of the article let me know.)
It is hoped that the Roll, if found, can be rededicated in St. Joseph's Primary or, failing that, that the names of the men can be confirmed to allow a new Roll to be commisssioned.
You're right, by the way, about the Lyon St. losses and the living conditions; it was , by all accounts , a tough area.
I'm going up to Miilton Library today,I 'll let you know how I get on.
Thanks once again.
24th Jun 2005, 04:08pm
Dimairt and Heather,I can't help you in your quest,can only say that I feel so sad that,memories of those who gave their lives,get lost.I frequent antique shops and it always gets me ,when I see pictures of servicemen and women,I think to myself,who are they and what are their stories .There must be families ,who would love to have those pics the words of a song always come to mind " or are you a stranger,without even a name,enclosed forever behind a glass frame,in an old photograph torn and tattered and stained,and fading to yellow in a brown leather frame" .So Sad !! I do hope you find the roll of honour Dimairt ,they deserve to be honoured .Heroes one and all !!
24th Jun 2005, 07:51pm
Dimairt, you have me so curious about this now, I hope you find it. I would be interested in seeing it, if found.
I went to St. Joseph's Primary when it was in North Woodside Road, many years ago
Jimmyd, I am sure you know that the song you mentioned is called ' The Green fields of France'. It is on a Corries video I have. The name of the video is: Flower of Scotland, A vision of The Corries.
24th Jun 2005, 08:08pm
I also attended St.Joseph's Primary School in North Woodside Rd. I was baptised in the church and made my Holy Communion and confirmation there and my children were baptised in St.Joe's as it was affectionally known, I don't ever remember anything about the plaque at all. It would be very interesting to find out more about this.
25th Jun 2005, 04:57am
The Plaque used to be above the gantry in the garscube bar,
when the building was demolished nobody knows what happened to it ,St Joseph`s was looking for it to put it on display at the school,as the school is in Lyon St now,don`t know if they ever got it.
25th Jun 2005, 08:43am
Hi All..Here is a photo of St Josephs Primary at 39 Raglan St,which ran I believe parallel with Lyon St,I,ve heard about this Roll of Honours for years,But nobody has ever found out where it disappeared to,hopefully it will be found and placed with Peoples Palace/Maryhill Community Centre or something similar Cheers Flim
25th Jun 2005, 08:44pm
See what you have started Dimairt. We are all curious to see the Roll of Honour.
Rosie-k, I was also Baptised, made 1st Communion and was Confirmed in St. Joseph's.
About 10 yrs ago I went into town and walked right up the Cowcaddens and Garscube Rd. along North Woodside Rd to visit St. Joseph's Chapel. I stood there almost in tears when I saw the Chapel had been demolished. It was like a part of my childhood had been taken away.
Rosie, do you remember the letters AMDG that were above the Chapel door. As children we used to say they stood for: Auntie Mary's Dumpling's Good.
26th Jun 2005, 04:16pm
Yes Heather we all said that about AMDG. I stayed in Braid St. and was at the School in from about 1939 or 1940 we had a Sister Mary Gabriel at the time, I was terrified of her, she used to scare me to death. I remember going to the high playground and it was so reassuring as I could practically see where I lived from there. My son who is a bus driver in Glasgow had to go to St.Joseph's a few years ago to get a copy of his baptismal certificate and he ended up having to go to St. Columbus in Hopehill Rd. as all records had been transferred there. I was also married from this chapel and I found a photo of the inside of St. Joseph's Chapel on the virtual Mitchell.I hope we can all find out about the plaque --a very interesting story.
26th Jun 2005, 08:46pm
Rosie, I was a couple years behind you, lol but I remember Sister Mary Gabriel, my older sister had her. I had Sister Mary Bernadette and loved her so much I took her name as my Confirmation name.
I also had Miss Donnachie and I can say to this day as an adult, she should never have been teaching young children. She used to slap us on the face and left me so marked that my Mum went up to her and very quietly told her never to put a finger on me again, she never did, but used the belt in future. I was terrified of her.
Do you remember Sister Mary Baptist?????
Talking of the name Bernadette, I got the DVD of "The Song of Bernadette" from Amazon on the Internet. I have been trying to get it for a long time and my son told me to try Amazon and was delighted to find they had it. I ordered it last Sunday and it came on Wednesday and on Friday night my 7yrs old g'daughter, my husband and I sat and watched it. My g'daughter is away home with it to watch it again.
Dimairt where are you, I am anxious to know how you got on and if you found the Roll of Honour?????????
26th Jun 2005, 09:59pm
i am the parent of st josephs school who has been researching the lyon st roll of honour for two years now i would like to give every one information of what i have and hope maybe someday the roll will appear again in 1962 when lyon st came down st josephs was built our playground still has a portion of lyon st still there left as a memorial to the men who died we got a fence put around it and hope to either get a replica of the roll or the original if this cant be done the beautiful poem that dimairt has given me i will get this turned into a new memorial before the garscube bar came down a major hawley was offered the roll i got major shaw of royal highland fusiliers to phone him he said he never got it now iwas told the peoples palace had it but fiona hayez the curator has been looking for it all this time she cant find it i was told it was on display there during the sixties but still no luck this plaque was made in 1919 by an unskilled man it was about five feet long with a gold frame and it has pictures of soldiers faces on the front the picture i have is very fuzzy i wrote to the herald and asked for the original photo taken by dave gibson in 1962 the herald phoned me and said they could not find it now lyon st claim to fame was that it was the only street in uk that lost so many men from the same street it was also the most decorated it also had its own armistice day for 20 years after great war where a buglar and piper came from the barracks the roll was taken out for the day and the people from lyon street honoured there dead now i was also informed by two pastkeepers of st josephs chapel that the parishoners got a marble plaque made with all the soldiers names on it in 1985 the same two pastkeepers watched the plaque getting taken down from the wall and put into a van along with other items it was supposed to go to the peoples palace but suprise suprise the plaque dissapeared i have on numerous occassions spoke and practically begged the curator of the archdiocese in clyde street for help i have been told they no nothing about it wich is a load of rubbish as they had a huge memorial service in st josephs where im told the place was crowded with people i contacted old preists from st josephs and the said the marble plaque was beautiful so how can clyde st say they dont know anything about it the lady in question who supposed to have got the plaque she never did as i have spoken to the family about this they asked and received permission from clyde street to have the plaque when the went to collect it it could not be found so by right two of these plaques were made i have one major problem glasgow great roll of honour book in the mitchell library has only has 7 of these soldiers registered dead major shaw of the fusiliers in sauchihall street said most of this was part of folklore but i dont believe him as i have went pub crawl after pub crawl and spoke to a lot of old lyon st people who have said there were so many killed i think every one will agree it is very sad and heartbreaking that so many men have not been honoured from it is important that this roll will turn up or like i said a new one made on april there one of my neighbours said his friend saw the original roll the wooden one on the telly it turned up in london somewhere he said it was the bbc news i phoned all the stations in london but no luck with everyone help hopefuly a pemanent memorial can be made
26th Jun 2005, 10:52pm
Liz39, as I said in a previous post, my aunt who lived in Braid St. knew of this Roll of Honour and is quite clear in her mind that there was one in St. Joseph's and she also mentioned Keiran's Bar and the Armistice Parade.
It is really sad that it seems to have disappeared.
This is just an idea, but have you asked at St. Columba's in Hopehill Road as that is where all the data concerning the Parishioners of St. Joseph's was sent.
Please keep us up todate on how the search is going.
26th Jun 2005, 11:06pm
heather i have asked st columbia quite a few times about records all i get told is that the baptismal records are there nothing else i have even asked if they could check the archdiocese storerooms but no one will help
27th Jun 2005, 01:22pm
Good to see Liz joining in the discussion, as she's the one who got this started. (Hi Liz)
No luck at Milton Library I'm afraid but I have got a copy of the postcard poem from David Warrilow, a local historian. (see below)
I'll try to get a clear copy of the Evening times article from 1962 and post the photo for you all to see. Failing that you can always come to the Mitchell and have look for yourselves. The Glasgow room is on the second floor.
The Men of Lyon St.
(Specially written for T. Logan Downie,Esq.)
There's a little street in Glasgow
At the top of Grascube Rd,
That has bred some noble soldiers
Worthy of a King's abode.
The street is not a long one,
Just about six hundred feet,
But it's turned out a man per foot-
The Men of Lyon St.
Some of them were in the Seaforths,
In the Sweeps or H.L.I.,
The Argylls and gallant Gordons:
In a foreign grave they lie.
Some are in the Forty Second,
Or the Borderers, so neat,
Camerons, Fusiliers, all fighters,
The Men of Lyon St.
Some are serving in the Navy,
Royal Scots, and R.F.A.;
Some are in the Royal Irish P
Pushing Fritz out of the way.
One at least has gained the honour
Of commissioned rank complte,
And they won a score of medals, have
The Men of Lyon Street.
They have surely made a record,
Even in this record war,
And we ought to sound thier praises
Over all the world afar.
They have nobly done their duty
Those men who can'r be beat,
Who are worhty of all honour,
The Men of Lyon Street.
7th. December,1917 R.F. Morrison
27th Jun 2005, 06:00pm
I wish you every success in your search, the poem was beautiful you seem to be hitting a brick wall at every turn, I thought St.Columba's would have been able to help with this. Heather I made a mistake it was Sister Mary Baptist I should have said not Gabriel, that was the one who scared me------I remember now when you mentioned the name, I must have been having a senior moment, poor Sister Gabriel saying that about her.
28th Jun 2005, 11:33am
Dimairt, this is very disappointing news.
I phoned my aunt, she said the Roll of Honour was not among the display, but the name of the person who is supposed to have it was there. She asked at the library the other day and they said they knew nothing about it, and she was surprised as the display was there only a matter of weeks ago.
My aunt gave me a name but I do not want to put it on here so I will phone you with it. It may or may not help.
Could you maybe get the Evening Times or the Daily Record involved and get them to print the story. Someone may have more information or someone may have it and not realise the importance of it.
Maybe we all have to get together and storm the doors of the Archdiocese Office in Clyde Street.
28th Jun 2005, 05:03pm
Thanks Heather for the help and the suggestions. I've posted a copy of the Evening Times article to you.
I looked through the Evening Times archive today to see if there was a follow-up to the October 16th 1962 article but there was nothing - they didn't seem to have a letters page.
Perhaps Liz would consider approaching the paper; they might like the story - it seems to have attracted a fair bit of interest on this site alone.
I'll ask if the Council's magazine, "Glasgow", which goes to every household in the city, would be interested.
I'll also check at Milton in case they've kept the poster; I can put another up to see what happens.
Thanks again to all for your supportive comments. As usual, any suggestions are welcome.
28th Jun 2005, 07:57pm
dimairt i tried to phone you today anyway the original photo of the 1962 newspaper articles are in the mitchell in the rooms owned by herald evening times as you see there are two photos last month they got back in touch with me and said they found the lyon st picture with the horse and cart it was a clear picture but the roll photo was gone it must be there somewhere they also said a few librarians helped to look for it but who knows i spoke to a journalist in october and they put a very small article in the evening times i got 4 phone calls to the school saying the pub roll was in the palace i find not having any support behind me maybe thats why i am not getting anywhere i have another road to go down will see how that goes to early to say yet if that fails that lovely poem will be the new memorial as our headteacher has okay this will add to the memory of the many men from lyon street would anyone have a old wedding photo of st josephs with a picture of the plaque on view you never know
10th Aug 2005, 08:28pm
Dimairt, how is the search going, any luck.
I got the paper cuttings you sent me and they were very interesting. Sorry for not letting you know sooner.
10th Aug 2005, 09:32pm
I'm sorry Heather but I think we're at a dead-end. I looked through the STV archive yesterday to no avail.
I 've asked my colleagues at the People's Palace to look again to see if they've anything in their records.
Will keep going though and welcome any suggestions.
26th Sep 2005, 06:39pm
My name is Robert Carrigan lived in Phoenix Park Terrace, went to St Joseph.s till 1955. Moved to 13 Raglan St with my Gran Bella Carrigan ie: Devine 1952 when our Mum died. My grandfather's Brother Hugh Carrigan was on the Scroll. The last time I heard about it it was taken from Kiernan's Bar in the Garscube rd in the early 60s it was supposed to have been put on display in The Highlan
der Pub or Glasgow Highlander Pub not sure of name but it was directly accross from the old Barracks on Maryhill rd. Hope this helps I saw the scroll in the Kiernan's but no nothing of one in the chapel.
Robert Carrigan Still in Glasgow
26th Sep 2005, 08:59pm
Hi Hudggy As you probably know there whwere three Pubs in the Maryhill Area H.L.I.  Royal Highlander ? [Highlander] and  The Elephant and Bugle which was situated across the Street from the Barracks..And another little bit of nformation the Lady whose husband I take to St Teresa's Chapel every Sunday is Isa Devine and she stayed in that area,her mother owned I believe a Fruit Shop Cheers Flim
27th Sep 2005, 01:59pm
As I said I was not sure of the correct name for the pub but it was accross from the Barracks. The man you take to St Terera's chapel every sunday cannot be the husband of Isa Devine maybe the Husband of Isa McLaglan daugther of Mary McLaglan my Gran's sister. The fruit shop was first owned by Isabella Torbet Devine both her Married names my g grandmother then by my Gran Isabella Torbet Carrigan who after giving up the shop.It was run by my Aunt Isabella Carrigan ( Galloway Dunn) married names in brackets. Mary McLaglan and Isabell Torbet are sisters as far as i know step sisters I was never told the full story of how that is but always called Mary my Aunty and Isa MCLaglan Aunt also. Could you ask her husband about Harry (Henry) Devine my great Grandfather what I am doing is building the family tree and would like to know the story of Irish Harry and English Jimmy if he will tell you. If my Aunt Isa is still alive is she on the telephone, I believe her Husband is John Donnachie maybe not spelt correct but never never got to know him when I was growing up.
30th Oct 2005, 06:18pm
Here's a wee update on the Lyon St. story. Unfortunately, we haven't found the Roll of Honour but thanks to Liz, who started this and never gives up, Baille Alex Mossan has commissioned a new memorial which will include the poem - see previous - and be re-dedicated in a service to be held in the local primary.
Who knows, perhaps publicity around that will prompt memories. Thanks to all who have written on this.
30th Oct 2005, 07:33pm
Dimairt, I'm glad to hear that news. Although not the original, the new memorial will mean a lot to the relations of those whose names will be on it.
It's annoying to think that the original memorial will more than likely be lying in someone's attic, or the bottom of a trunk.
Someday it will turn up.
8th Nov 2005, 08:22pm
dimairt and heather a wee update on the memorial the plaque is still getting made it wont be on time but what is happening is that a mock one will be unveiled at the school on 18th nov at 315pm once the proper one is finished it will be swapped over i would like to invite every one who would like to attend to come as you will all be welcome it should be a good day as its also our 40th birthday thank you to every one who replyed to lyon st glasgow im still a bit sad the original could not be found but as you say heather it will be gathering dust somewhere who knows look forward to seeing you thank you liz
8th Nov 2005, 09:46pm
That was a nice wee bit of news, so good luck on the 40th Celebrations in November. I have been watching this article from the beginning as I originally came from that district and went to School there.
10th Nov 2005, 06:50pm
rosie k you are more than welcome to come along on the 18th november at 3pm i collected the memorial today its sitting in my livingroom as we speak its really beautiful its based around the original plaque but i hope everyone will be pleased i would like to meet the people like yourself and heather and everyone else who took the time to help me i dont know what i will do now as 2 years is a long time to reaserch something and its now came to an end hope you can manage liz
10th Nov 2005, 07:24pm
I would dearly have loved to come, I stay in Arbroath and have grandchildren to pick up from School, thankyou Liz 39 I hope you all have a lovely time. I will no doubt hear more about it from the boards here.
14th Nov 2005, 10:38pm
rosie k thanks for your kind thoughts the school is mental at the moment the piper is lined up the bugler hopefully i think myself it will be a good turnout there will be a replica of the plaque at woodside library if you are back here visiting that way no one will be left out due to security reasons we cant have everybody coming to the school so know one will be left out every one will be able to share looking at it will let you know how friday goes liz
15th Nov 2005, 07:28pm
Hello Liz 39 I bet your up to high doh at the moment, only days to go now, you deserve a pat on the back for all the research and hard work you have put in, congratulations, you have done well, and I am sure everything will be fine on the day, take care and enjoy yourself.
15th Nov 2005, 09:09pm
Good luck for Friday Liz, I hope everything goes well.
I would loved to have been there but I have other commitments that day. Hopefully I will be able to see the Memorial sometime as it sounds lovely.
I am wondering if I would recognise any of the names on it, obviously not the men, but names of families that I knew whilst growing up in the Cowcaddens.
17th Nov 2005, 12:48am
heather it was impossible to get all the names because the original has not turned up it would have been unfair to put the ones that i have on this new one and leave the rest out i would have been worried about upsetting the other families this new one is a war memorial not a roll of honour if the old one turns up i will add all of the names on the new memorial so all the names are together i have orginised a replica but smaller version to go up on the wall in woodside library that way the whole community can see it because once its in the school security would be a issue that way no one will have any problems seeing it will let you all know next week how everything went thank you heather and rosie k liz
18th Nov 2005, 05:31pm
I would like to thank Liz39 on behalf of all my family living in Scotland and Oz, England and Canada. For the beautiful ceremony that was performed today at St Joseph's School. For my Grand Uncle Hugh and all the other men from Lyons Street who gave their lives, in the Great War 1914 to 1918. So that we could live the lives we have today if it were not for the men in both World Wars I think life in Scotland would completely different now.
Once again thank you Liz39 and all the staff who made me welcome today back at my old school.
8th Dec 2005, 04:06pm
I too also went to St Joseph's Primary School Although I think it was way before your time .I was born in 1929 .
,But then it was in Manresa Place and the headmistress was Miss Peden ..The girls School was in North Woodside Road where the girls were taught by nuns .the boys school was on the opposite corner .On the corner of Braid Street and North Woodside road with the playground on top of the building.St Joe's Chapel has gone now ,sad to say .
I remember Lyon Street as well ,It was the most deprived street I can ever remember ,A real tough place top grow up
Best of luck
8th Dec 2005, 04:20pm
I went to the Joe's 10 years after you according to your posts which state your age. I know what you are saying about Lyon St being poor but you could say the same about most streets around the Garscube Rd. After all it was thrown up in the first slum clearance as there was not enough housing at the time it was built not that it made a great difference to the state of the housing in general. The whole area before they built Phoenix Park Terrace and any Red Sandstone buildings most of it was Works I think Iron works and whiskey Bonds I could be wrong on the type of works.
12th Dec 2005, 01:36pm
I understand what you are saying about all of the streets being shoddily built and quickly developing into slums .But you Know ? I lived in Crossburn Street just 2 streets along from Lyon Street and never ever gave a thought to being in a slum .After all ,we had an inside toilet .
Lyon Street somehow gained a reputation for being tough and run down and this reputation preceded it . I remember a lot of good people who came from Lyon Street and quite afew bad ones .
When we were young .we were warned about going through |Lyon Street at night ,simply because of its reputation.
I dont know if you remember Father Lyne .I remember he was attacked by a man who was on top of a building in LYon Street ,when all he wanted to do was help him .but that is another story .
12th Dec 2005, 05:33pm
We could go on about where in the Garscube Road was the worst street as I said Lyon St was not the worst. Maybe because people did not live there its reputation went before it, but many who lived there would say it was dirty and run down but you had the best type of people living next to you. Take Drumchaple or Casltemilk both have bad names but most of the people like living in these schemes. As far as the Priest being hurt I never heard about that and I thought the main part of Lyon St fell down before Father Lyne came to St Joes I could be wrong he did not come there till the mid or late fifties.
12th Dec 2005, 05:36pm
dear tommy im liz from st josephs school i have asked almost everybody i know have even went pub crawls i was wondering do you have any ideas how many names were on the the original plaque in the garscube bar above the gantry or even anybody who has a photo of it in st josephs chapel i have about fifty names but i cannot cross match them with anything because i dont have any referance to the original many people i have spoke to cannot tell me either hope you can help liz
12th Dec 2005, 07:06pm
Hudggy, Fr. Lynnes was in St. Joseph's from the early 50s. That was the Parish we were in and we moved away in April 1953. He was the replacement for Fr. O'Leary when he was transferred to another Parish.
I also remember Lyon Street having a bad name.
One of my Aunts lived there for a few months, and although the buildings looked really bad, her house like most of her neighbours was spick and span inside. A case of 'don't judge the inside by the outside'.
12th Dec 2005, 07:11pm
As you can see i was not sure when father Lyne came to St Josesphs thanks for pointing that out to me. I was trying to get over to Tommy about the people of Lyon St even though it was a mess. What you said is what I was trying to say but could not put as well as you have.
14th Dec 2005, 04:37pm
The incident I was referring to was even reported in all the local papers .
Some guy who was the worst for drink or whatever, had given his missus a hammering .So somebody sent for Father Lyne .
By the time the priest got there ,the guy had climbed the building via the drain pipe. Father Lyne quite bravely climbed the pipe to try to talk the guy down ,But as he was climbing up the man who was now mad with anger and drink was tearing off roof tiles and throwing them at the good Father .
One of them hit him on the foot and almost sliced his foot off . Trust Father Mickey though ,He did manage to talk the guy down and became the hero of Lyon Street .His foot was bandaged for weeks .I cant remember the year ,but is was highlighted in all the Glasgow newspapers .
I was ever so fond of Father .Lyne . He even blessed my new born son in the middle of Crossburn Street as i was taking him to see his granny for the first time .
As for the people in Lyon Street ,I had a lot of respect for them. As you say the bad reputation preceded them /Some of my best pals came from the Street .Plus a girlfriend or two
I know it was not all bad .
15th Dec 2005, 05:18pm
Heather, my mother lived in Grove Street. She was not Catholic but was married in St. Joseph's, January 1920. My Dad was in WWI and had just joined the Glasgow Police. His address is given as Crossburn Street. I know those streets well because I used to walk home from Garnethill Convent. I never felt scared. My mother's sister Flora lived in Dobbies Loan and her kitchen sparkled. Visiting on a wet day - of which there were many - the first thing that went on was the kettle and my mother got the big chair by the fire. I believe that Sir Thomas Lipton came from the Garscube Road area. All you historians, am I right?
15th Dec 2005, 08:19pm
Buntyq, I know that Sir Thomas Lipton came from Glasgow, went to America, and returned to open his own Grocery Store. I do not have a clue where he lived in Glasgow.
Sorry. Maybe some one else will be able to answer your question.
12th Apr 2009, 01:49pm
Dear Rosie K
I am yet another refugee from St Josephs ,although it would have been around 1934 or 5 when i first went there .
I remember the headmistress who welcomed me into the school was known as Miss Peden .
I never knew many lassies from the school, as, after primary we transferred to the big school and the schools were taught seoerately . I think you girls were taught by nuns.
They terrified me , although I did get frienly with an italian girl named Angelina Jaconelli .She was every boys ideal ,so very lovely.
But I think she was removed from the district at the start of thw war as an alien.
Another girl i was very friendly (more than friendly ) was Cathie White , but i have told her story earlier on on another post.
Great to hear for an ex St Joes member. I lived in Crossburn Street ,which was off Braid St and just 100 yards from church.
29th Apr 2009, 08:39pm
I have been following this discussion with interest, as my parents came from the Woodside area and were married in St Joseph's Church.
My father lived in Raglan Street and went to St Joseph's school. I have attached a photograph showing his class (Junior 2). I don't know the year, but he was born at the end of 1927 and he might be about 8 in the picture. Hopefully it has uploaded OK.
My Uncles also went to St Joseph's. One of them remembers Miss Peden and also a teacher Miss McCallion.Click to view attachment
29th Apr 2009, 09:43pm
The name Miss McCallion sounds familiar. She probably taught in the Infants School as the girls and boys had separate Primary Schools.
I went to St. Joseph's Primary during the 1940s/50s.