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bilbo.s
http://rochdaleherald.co.uk/breaking-news/...nce-say-idiots/


Wot a larf!
Mathieson
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/yes-...endum-1-4215513

What a lying corrupt shower. Not only that, they are quite obviously also financially inept (as if we needed proof).
I'm sure the Ayrshire pie munchers will bail them out though.
Mathieson
QUOTE (john.mcn @ 30th Aug 2016, 07:30pm) *
Bunch of bremoaners telling us it's democratic to overturn the democratic will of the people. thumbup.gif


Sturgeon and the EU: it's like watching someone trying to climb out of a lifeboat to get back onto the Titanic.
GG
Good news (eventually) from the EU today... anything that upsets the US and big corporations has got to be good. Some commentators were saying that the ruling might affect the 'trickle down effect', as if anyone is daft enough to still believe in that old Reaganomics junk.

QUOTE
Europe's 'unfair' Apple tax ruling sparks US anger

There has been widespread criticism in the US of the European Commission's ruling that Apple should pay up to 13bn (11bn) in back taxes.

The US Treasury said that such tax investigations were "unfair" and undermined the tax rules of individual states.

Charles Schumer, a senior Democrat senator, called the move a "cheap money grab".
The White House said the ruling could cost US taxpayers.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest argued that if Apple paid the back taxes, it might offset that amount against tax due in the United States, which would be unfair for American taxpayers. [...]

Full story here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37226101

GG.
bilbo.s
Martin, Thanks for backing up my link - post1844. smile.gif
bilbo.s
http://newsthump.com/2016/08/30/brexiters-...-amount-of-tax/


Warning - Satire (I think!)
JAGZ1876
QUOTE (Mathieson @ 30th Aug 2016, 10:43pm) *
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/yes-...endum-1-4215513

What a lying corrupt shower. Not only that, they are quite obviously also financially inept (as if we needed proof).


Another who gets their union jack referendum knickers in a twist. laugh.gif

Good to see your still lagging behind the rest of us.

This was a news story almost a year and a half ago, the Britnatz MSN keeps you Zealots going with regurgitated stale news in lieu of any real news.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1321789...d_after_indyre/

"What a lying corrupt shower. Not only that, they are quite obviously also financially inept (as if we needed proof)"

Were you talking about Westminster or the board of the football team (old and new) you support? unsure.gif
Billy Boil
QUOTE (john.mcn @ 30th Aug 2016, 06:34pm) *
EU displaying the reason many want out, there can be no state aid for struggling businesses even if its in the national interest.. (Apple isn't struggling but its in Irelands interest they stay there)

Ohh and surely subsidies to some EU countries is State aid????

Apple being sued for 19BILLION!!! in back taxes by the E.U.

Paying tax through shell company in Ireland at the rate of 0.005%.

And the South American drug cartels are labled criminals!!!
Scotsman
Now they want to change the rule because they lost. Boo hoo!! smile.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37238641
bilbo.s
QUOTE (Scotsman @ 1st Sep 2016, 11:05am) *
Now they want to change the rule because they lost. Boo hoo!! smile.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37238641


Everyone's a loser, ya mug ye! angry.gif
Scotsman
Time will tell but I am looking forward to the Brexit when it happens.

Parties in the street. clap.gif
bilbo.s
QUOTE (Scotsman @ 1st Sep 2016, 11:13am) *
Time will tell but I am looking forward to the Brexit when it happens.

Parties in the street. clap.gif


Enjoy a good wake, do you? Fond o' biled ham sandwiches?
john.mcn
QUOTE (Scotsman @ 1st Sep 2016, 09:05am) *
Now they want to change the rule because they lost. Boo hoo!! smile.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37238641


Interesting graph showing that the politicians convinced more people to vote leave even if were campaigning to remain wink.gif
DannyH
The BBC News Channel reported today, in their daily business report, that the British manufacturing sector's performance for August,was higher than expected. It has had the biggest monthly increase in performance for 5 years. It is early days, but it is certainly not the trend that was predicted by those who can't accept democracy.

China is also reported to be investing billions in the UK, buying up businesses, football clubs and, of course, property. By China, what the media really mean is capitalist billionaire Chinese who use Communism as a way to control the masses. Just as rich Western capitalists use our politicians to control the masses, by brain washing us that the British are not as good workers as Eastern Europeans. The reality of course is that the Eastern European workers come here to work because their basic pay at home is so low. Their places in Eastern Europe are taken by Far Eastern workers
who are recruited by Eastern European employment agencies based in the Far East.

All the concern is about Free Trade in Europe. There is no concern about the trade in slave labour in Eastern Europe.

One of the things that saddens me is that we tend to think of the big cities like Glasgow, Edinburgh etc when we talk about the affect EU migrants are having on the prospects of employment for our younger people. Go to many rural areas of Scotland and you will find that many local children have no hope of employment in jobs that were traditionally filled by them. I have seen on the Scottish News, adults in these area complaining that the SNP seem to focus there attention on the larger cities of Scotland.

Danny Harris
bilbo.s
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/commen...can-never-leave

Let's, and I speak for the 62% of Scots, hope he is correct, for the sake of all of us.
Betsy2009
Did anyone watch the BBC programme 'Britain's Hardest Workers: Inside the Low Wage Economy'?
Billy Boil
QUOTE (DannyH @ 1st Sep 2016, 10:42pm) *
The BBC News Channel reported today, in their daily business report, that the British manufacturing sector's performance for August,was higher than expected. It has had the biggest monthly increase in performance for 5 years. It is early days, but it is certainly not the trend that was predicted by those who can't accept democracy.

China is also reported to be investing billions in the UK, buying up businesses, football clubs and, of course, property. By China, what the media really mean is capitalist billionaire Chinese who use Communism as a way to control the masses. Just as rich Western capitalists use our politicians to control the masses, by brain washing us that the British are not as good workers as Eastern Europeans. The reality of course is that the Eastern European workers come here to work because their basic pay at home is so low. Their places in Eastern Europe are taken by Far Eastern workers
who are recruited by Eastern European employment agencies based in the Far East.

All the concern is about Free Trade in Europe. There is no concern about the trade in slave labour in Eastern Europe.

One of the things that saddens me is that we tend to think of the big cities like Glasgow, Edinburgh etc when we talk about the affect EU migrants are having on the prospects of employment for our younger people. Go to many rural areas of Scotland and you will find that many local children have no hope of employment in jobs that were traditionally filled by them. I have seen on the Scottish News, adults in these area complaining that the SNP seem to focus there attention on the larger cities of Scotland.

Danny Harris

Kim Men Tal Li ILL Jong has been exporting workers to these formally and as is Russia's case still remain, totalitarian regimes. Russia is a recipient as are gulf countries where the natives consider manual work a contradiction to the tenets of their religion. The unfortunate North Koreans, hired out at great profit to their psychotic leadership still suffer the same deprivations, hunger, ill treatment and death, as they did in vile country they came from. (Russia is a foremost profiteer from this and remember the dead, who as slaves, perished under the hot Arabian sun to build the soccer stadium for the corrupt world cup in Qatar) the point of this; when you here politicians whining about accepting a disproportionate amount of refugees into to small and not so rich country, they are doing so in the pious hope of reducing wages and condition for the inhabitants of that country.
Start off with the premise I normally go on. Politicians lie, lie, and lie some more to keep the coffers full and their seats in government perpetually warm.
DannyH
QUOTE (Betsy2009 @ 2nd Sep 2016, 10:39am) *
Did anyone watch the BBC programme 'Britain's Hardest Workers: Inside the Low Wage Economy'?


Hello Betsy

I didn't see that programme. Would you please post a summary of its contents?
Many thanks

Danny
Mathieson
QUOTE (Scotsman @ 1st Sep 2016, 10:05am) *
Now they want to change the rule because they lost. Boo hoo!! smile.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37238641




Seriously, why do we even bother with referendums when the losers invariably greet like bairns and spit the dummy oot? rolleyes.gif
john.mcn
QUOTE (DannyH @ 2nd Sep 2016, 11:48am) *
Hello Betsy

I didn't see that programme. Would you please post a summary of its contents?
Many thanks

Danny



Just grab it on iPlayer Danny, you should be OK as you're in the UK, not sure how it now goes with the changes to the TV license.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07qrk9y/episodes/player
john.mcn
QUOTE (Mathieson @ 2nd Sep 2016, 06:15pm) *
Seriously, why do we even bother with referendums when the losers invariably greet like bairns and spit the dummy oot? rolleyes.gif



The electoral reform society should be unbiased, i think the point they are trying to make is the lack of information coming from both sides during the debate.
Mathieson
QUOTE (john.mcn @ 2nd Sep 2016, 08:36pm) *
The electoral reform society should be unbiased, i think the point they are trying to make is the lack of information coming from both sides during the debate.


Jeezo, just how much "information" do they think people need?

Why is it these do-gooders always feel it necessary to endlessly spoon feed us to the point of absolute exhaustion? Maybe because their side lost and they just can't accept the facts of life as far as democracy is concerned?

Most folk I know, irrespective of which way they voted in either referendum are thoroughly sick of them and felt that way long before each took place. The last thing we need is more slavering windbags and shrieking harridans on our TVs nightly.
DannyH
QUOTE (john.mcn @ 2nd Sep 2016, 08:32pm) *
Just grab it on iPlayer Danny, you should be OK as you're in the UK, not sure how it now goes with the changes to the TV license.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07qrk9y/episodes/player


Thanks John

I can get it on my TV.

Regards

Danny
Betsy2009
Sorry Danny. Friends popped in before I had a chance to answer your question. They just gone!
Betsy2009
Thanks for your help, John.
bilbo.s
The full moon must be a week late in Scotland. laugh.gif
wombat
laugh.gif laugh.gif
bilbo.s
Click to view attachment
bilbo.s
http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/suns-i...n-on-the-facts/


More garbage from the Murdoch empire.
bilbo.s
http://rightsinfo.org/wrote-european-conve...n-human-rights/


An educational piece for those in need of education.
john.mcn
So called EU myths busted, busted

1. All laws passed in the UK must comply with EU law
2 Only the unelected EU commissioners can propose laws, unlike our elected bodies the EU MEP's cannot propose members bills.
3 Norway may pay similar amounts per capita, but they have a far lower population than the UK
3 Then lets welcome those who benefit society and reject those whose sole intention is to sponge off the pot we all have to pay into. Start by removing all benefits for non UK citizens until xx of years of tax has been paid.
4 The UK has had workers rights long before the EU, we have stronger maternity rights than the EU and paid holidays long before the EU came into existence.
5 The UK is the EU's(ex the UK) biggest single market, we sell far more to them and have done since we joined
7 The ECHR is nothing to do with the EU but it is a requirement countries sign up to it. The ECHR was designed for another time and is not fit for purpose in this wishy washy bleeding heart world. Leaving the EU means replacing it with a system where foreign criminals can get kicked out.
8 So its a myth that the 'British' are different then it basically says they are ??
john.mcn
QUOTE (john.mcn @ 3rd Sep 2016, 11:41am) *
So called EU myths busted, busted


5 The UK is the EU's(ex the UK) biggest single market, we sell far more to them and have done since we joined


Correction number 5 Should of course read as below, missed the edit time, thats what i get for going to make a cuppa biggrin.gif

5 The UK is the EU's(ex the UK) biggest single market, we buy far more from them and have done since we joined
Dykejumper
If I remember correctly the UCL survey was partly funded by the EU and did not include all EU migrants, its hard to believe that European Fruit Pickers and Big Issue sellers are making a net contribution to the economy.
bilbo.s
http://linkis.com/www.mirror.co.uk/new/tLQYP

Here are some figures for the eejits to rubbish.
Mathieson
Just thinking, all those British expats who are so against Brexit but live on the continent must really feel they've won a watch.
Whereas we will be losing the multitude of benefits that come with EU membership, they will be able to remain and continue to reap all those wonderful benefits they hold so dear.
Lucky devils!!
bilbo.s
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/s...MP=share_btn_fb


Excellent article.
Mathieson
I think we all get it that a lot of Lefties are still in complete denial.
Also that they are genuinely concerned about the implications of brexit (at the same time many of us have no such fears), but what are they still moaning about?
These same people have professed their entire lives to uphold the sacred doctrines of democracy.
Are they now suggesting we just ride a coach and horses through those same principles and to hell with the democratic will of the British people just because they personally don't approve?
Melody
Bilbo.s don't bother warning them, they deserve to get the rude awakening that awaits them. laugh.gif That's if they can actually wake up. laugh.gif
JAGZ1876
QUOTE (Melody @ 4th Sep 2016, 11:40am) *
Bilbo.s don't bother warning them, they deserve to get the rude awakening that awaits them. laugh.gif That's if they can actually wake up. laugh.gif



Sadly Melody we can take no pleasure as they're pulling us all under with them, although we do have a lifeboat ready to go. wink.gif
Melody
I know JAGZ, and a fabulous lifeboat it is too. smile.gif
JAGZ1876
thumbup.gif
QUOTE (Melody @ 4th Sep 2016, 12:02pm) *
I know JAGZ, and a fabulous lifeboat it is too. smile.gif

bilbo.s
http://news.sky.com/story/japans-unprecede...brexit-10564585

Japan joins the club.
john.mcn
No one is being pulled, dragged or whatever. We were asked the question "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?"
The people in the UK (and some whingers out of it) replied and it was a majority of over 1.2 million for leave.
Now being an inferior numpty who doesn't own any elitist ties i cant for the life of me see Scotland in the question, so i have to accept that
A.) it wasn't a referendum on Scotland being part of the EU and
B.) it was not a poll on whether we should remain part of the UK.
If anyone can see different then i'm all ears, or eyes as its on a message board
Kemedian
QUOTE (john.mcn @ 4th Sep 2016, 02:33pm) *
If anyone can see different then i'm all ears, or eyes as its on a message board

blink.gif ... nope.
Dykejumper
There are over 3 million EU citizens in the U.K. Why do they stay in a supposedly sinking U.K.ship?
JAGZ1876
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 4th Sep 2016, 04:33pm) *
There are over 3 million EU citizens in the U.K. Why do they stay in a supposedly sinking U.K.ship?



There are 1.2 million Britons in EU countries, so by head of population there are more Brits (60 million) in EU countries than EU (440 million) citizens living in the UK.


Why is that if the EU is so bad?
Betsy2009
The weather! tongue.gif
john.mcn
QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 4th Sep 2016, 06:04pm) *
There are 1.2 million Britons in EU countries, so by head of population there are more Brits (60 million) in EU countries than EU (440 million) citizens living in the UK.


Why is that if the EU is so bad?


What percentage do 'Brits' make up in that 440 million as opposed to the 3 million in the UK?

You cant bend and twist figures any way but the simple fact is that freedom of movement after EU expansion was a stupid policy defended by people in little ivory towers.
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