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Glasgow City Council's legal bid to evict a group of "anti-greed" protesters from their camp in a corner of George Square has suffered a setback after a Sheriff granted a 48-hour delay as a "compromise" between the council and protesters.

The "Occupy Glasgow" group, part of a worldwide protest action aimed primarily at what they see as the unchecked greed of bankers, pitched their tents opposite the City Chambers on 15th October.

The court action to evict the group, who are inspired by the Occupy Wall Street campaign, was due to get underway today, but has now been put off until Thursday after the group asked for more time to prepare their defence against expulsion from Glasgow's main civic square.

The council says that it needs to remove the group in order to prepare the square for Remembrance Day and Christmas activities, citing the fact that they have offered the group alternative locations to site their camp. In response, Occupy Glasgow claims that they would in no way interfere with the commemoration of Armistice Day, saying that the soldiers who died in foreign wars did so in order that groups like themselves should have the right to freedom of expression and demonstration.

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tarheels
We VETERANS fight for our country and civil rights, and a lot of good men and women gave there life for this freedom. As far as bankers and wall street go's look into the bildabirgers (bankers) that have taken over the banks world wide (wall street) these people want to take over the world (money madness) if you don't believe it check it out. i have!

clarence potter sr
a combat veteran +++++++ rielly
Elma
It is time these so called protesters all over the world packed up their tents and went home.
benny
I don't know how it is in Canada, but in Britain we still have the right to peaceful protest, and long may it continue.
*Shirley*
I'm for the protestors as they are acting for us. It's about time someone stood up to the bankers and if the Labour councillors wish to evict protestors against bankers then maybe what they said about Labour toadying up to big business has been true all along.

Time surely to take a stand for something other than greed?
tibbiesmom
It is the same here in the US. Ample time has been allowed for the protests, now it's time to go home. Things are beginning to get a bit nasty here.
Dave Grieve
How long can they stay there before claiming sqatters rights? wink.gif
glasgow lassie
I voted NO. Its a sad day for Glasgow when a peaceful protest cannot be allowed to be made because of Rememberance Sunday. Is that not what our young men fought for and are still fighting for? Very sad indeed!
Weegie
I think the council should leave the protesters to continue to protest if they like as long as it is peaceful and respectful of Armistice Day events. The only thing I would say is that the whole universe exists because of one entity capitalising on another, and I'd much rather live in a country where some people get rich through taking advantage of the opportunities that come their way, than one where people get rich by consciously oppressing the competition. Some would argue that that is what's happening right now. I think they are drama queens. I am far from rich, but I still have freedom and choice. Given the chance to take home an income of 1 million a year would I take it? Too damn right I would, and were it to be offered to some of those protesters, I don't think it'd be too long before the group disbanded...
eidas
Armistice Day and the Christmas period may give non-protesters the chance to speak with the protesters and listen to their point of view, to which all of us are entitled, too often no one bothers to listen. Leave them where they are, they're not hurting anyone.
Melody
Armistice Day and Christmas are all about the remembrance of the poor souls lost in rich man's wars and I don't imagine Jesus would have removed the protesters. Heaven help them, who would want to camp in George Square in this weather? Occupy Glasgow and the protesters around the world seem to be the only ones attempting to draw attention to the injustice and greed that we are all suffering under these days. We don't deserve the goodness of some of these young people the way we have all let all this greed get so out of control.
*duinemor*
There was once a time when Labour would BE the protesters about capitalist greed. How times have changed for a party that has lost its core values. The protesters should stay. A bit of imagination surely for Remembrance Day - have it in Cathedral Square or Glasgow Green this year for a wee change. It's not rocket sceince.
chas1937
I wonder where they get the money from in first place or are they all millionaires with nothing else to do.More likely they are all on benefits of some kind which of course means it they are doing that they could be out working that rest of folk have to do
Ayeyuya
They are more interested in getting on their Money making events, planned for the Square, than any concern for the exServiceman
Jupiter
The protesters have made their point and it is time for them to go but I get the impression that this will go the whole road so when the legal process is complete they will be moved with reasonable force ie mounted police,water canon,taser guns and the army on standby should they be required. rolleyes.gif
thepaperboy
why is it all the canadian imigrants want to tell us how to run our country,we still have a say in what our country should be run,they all sound like yangs now,what are they doing about caledonia its been going on for years now.
Melody
QUOTE (Jupiter @ 2nd Nov 2011, 09:42am) *
The protesters have made their point and it is time for them to go but I get the impression that this will go the whole road so when the legal process is complete they will be moved with reasonable force ie mounted police,water canon,taser guns and the army on standby should they be required. rolleyes.gif

No Jupiter that's what we should be doing to the bankers.
Guest
The tolerence shown to our Occupy Vancouver group is testament to the fact that Canadians here do not speak for most Canadians. I am a Secnd World War and a D-Day Veteran and I know that the Comrades that I lost during those years would be supporting the protesters. Many of todays Seniors are yesterdays Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen who are still waiting for the better World for which they Fought and saw others Die. I Remember every single day that I live.
*Harry Greenwood*
It is not about making a point, it is about making a difference. The Protest is the instrument to do that.
Jupiter
Melody,
I listened to two protesters on BBC Scotland News one of whom stated he was homeless and thats why he was there and the other one talking of bankers robbing them blind.Now both have valid beefs but neither of them or any other protesters Ive listened to have come up with any credible alternative financial system to the one presently in place.
I firmly believe that living in a democratic country as we do,each individual has the right to peaceful protest.Having done so it is time to move on.They have been asked but they appear to be digging in so it looks as though the matter will be decided by the courts and ultimately by court appointed officials/police.
I was joking about the tasers guns and the army. rolleyes.gif
*Harry Greenwood*
Are you saying that the Courts and the Police are the protectors of the bankers and the speculators who have brought about these Protests.
If so, who can the Protesters look to for support of their grievance. The question of Democracy is a two sided sword!
Melody
Aye they'll likely 'move' them on in the middle of the night.
ROB KILKIE
Seems a bit rich coming from Glasgow Corporation, the ones who took the money from a movie company and pop award ceremony to take over the square. So how much do they want to let the protesters remain there ?
Jupiter
Harry Greenwood,If I was saying that the police were protectors of the bankers and speculators would I be so wrong?The police are a non political,non vested interest organisation who exist to,among other things uphold law and order.The Protesters can expect every protection from the police,just like you and I, on condition we are living within the laws of the land.If you are not familiar with my posts let me just say I normally say what I mean.
Melody if it does come to a forceful removal,and I hope it doesnt come to that would it not be better if it did happen at a time when it did not paralyse the city centre and stop lawful citizens going about their business?
Kerry Gill
Occupiers have made their point, whatever that may be, and it is time to go. Other people want to use George Square for various reasons, so why does the camp take precedence over their wishes?
PABLO
Saying that protesters should go home is how bankers have become so powerful that they are now treating the ordinary people like dirt.
droschke7
QUOTE (Elma @ 2nd Nov 2011, 12:30am) *
It is time these so called protesters all over the world packed up their tents and went home.

Nevermind went home, how about if they went to work? What I mean is how do these people finance their protesting? Have they all taken time off work? are they unemployed and living from the state? or are they themselves the Capitalists that they claim to despise. I myself am a disabled Veteran and am worried that the Remembrance Day Celebrations could end up looking like a farce with these protestors in place.
Backcauseway
They have had the protest. Made the point. Now its time to go. Perhaps the city council should charge them rent. Plus the clean up cost once they have gone. The people I have seen in the tents seem almost unemployable to my "untrained" eyes.
Melody
Jupiter, hopefully we all say what we mean. No Jupiter, it would be better to 'move' them during daylight hours in full view of Glasgow citizens if this is their intention. Let the ordinary folk for whom the campers are protesting see what really happens to your right to protest.

Jupiter
Melody,I have no problems with that whatsoever but was merely considering the bigger picture and inconvenience to other citizens,having saw the mayhem which ensued at George Square recently when a film crew took over.Incidentally I consider myself an ordinary sort and wouldnt,couldnt ever contemplate any of the protesters (and Ive seen quite a few) speaking up or being under the impression they were acting on my behalf or for my benefit .
ThomasM
I too must admit that I feel I have little in common with these protesters and can't for a second imagine that I have anything in common with them. However that's exactly how I feel when I see a greedy banker or pompous politician come on the telly. I think we need some kind of middle ground here.
The Callands Rebel
Being a Virginian and a Capalist, I detest the Banks and their bail outs, however, as a capitalist I grew up poor in Orgeon Hill of Richmond, though we didn't know we were poor.

Grew up and our form of life afforded me the opportunity by working hard, without government social programs (Democrats), to make a damn good living.

These protesters need to be removed, they are the suckers of society.

Why else is there an influx STILL of immigrants, legal and illegal, because of CAPITALISM and life's dream afforded all here.
Johse
Although I agree that something needs to be done to stop banks & big business doing what they like, i am not sure the protests clinging on to George square will do any good. in fact they may be tempting fate... as many other demos started in good faith only to be hijacked by people with other agendas... and next thing you know the whole event has got out of control.

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TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (Jupiter @ 2nd Nov 2011, 10:28am) *
... Melody if it does come to a forceful removal ... would it not be better if it did happen at a time when it did not paralyse the city centre and stop lawful citizens going about their business?

OK Joop, you did explain to us that you were jokin' about the Tasers and the Army gettin' sent in. Now tell us that you're jokin' again.
The protestors are not there to paralyse the City Centre but to make the point that the City needs paralysing before the banks are faced with "GAME OVER" and the tax-payer has to re-boot the City so it can start all over again
There are a lot of good replies here about a generation or three whose lives were the down-payment for the freedom to protest; at tax-payers being ripped off by the financial districts around the world for example, and these young protestors are making use of that freedom and the Cenotaph; in honour of the brave young men who died for our freedoms, is the most honourable place for the protest to take place.
Worrying about Remembrance Sunday or how your Christmas might be effected by the protestors makin' it difficult to put the lights up, is doing no honour to the men who fell.
Take the protestors cups of coffee and support them. They're doing what you should be doing .... if you were younger. rolleyes.gif
George Brown
I agree with the protesters and what they want to achieve, but I think they should recognise the value of the Square at this point in time, remembrance services will be held with all the sobriety that the occasion demands, if it wasn't for those absent souls demonstrators lives might be totally different today,
the Christmas scene comes soon after and many kiddies are brought forward to wonder at the spectacle the square presents, although I don't fully agree with the carnival in the square it is still a children's wonderland and perhaps an introduction to Christian belief
I would say don't take it away from the kiddies they are only young once, also as I have just noticed a forecast for a Siberian chill to hit the country the protesters should consider bowing out gracefully, to return in milder times I am sure such a considerate action of goodwill might attract a bit more support in the future
Jupiter
The protesters have excercised their rights and good luck to them but thats it.They have made their point that the world needs to change although Ive not heard any of them put forward how that can be done.
I like a punt and I would put good money down that the protesters could sit there in their wigwams for the next ten years and there still will be no discernable change in how things work.
Rabbie
QUOTE (Jupiter @ 2nd Nov 2011, 08:42am) *
ie mounted police,water canon,taser guns and the army on standby should they be required. rolleyes.gif

Aye, aye. Now't like the softly softly in wi the boot approach to win over a disgrunted faction. tongue.gif

"We come in peace, phasers to STUN and shoot to kill men!"

I feel as long as the protesters do not disrespect Armistace Day they should stay until something tangible is implemented to curb the excesses of pig swilling capitalist bankers. Not yer wee lassie on the till sort, the bloated bowler hatted pinstripe suited brigade. As fur Xmas, that's cancelled there's a recession on ye know.

It will be a bad day when the right to peaceful protest goes out the windea, give this lame excuse of a government half a chance an they would sell us doon the river with that too. There is way too much public apathy, that's how these modern age Dick Turpins and their cutpurse cohorts get away with blue murder while joe public receives a royal reaming of biblical proportions.

Come the revolution, oot wi yer tactical array and let em have it folks.
JAGZ1876
QUOTE (*duinemor* @ 2nd Nov 2011, 08:30am) *
The protesters should stay. A bit of imagination surely for Remembrance Day - have it in Cathedral Square or Glasgow Green this year for a wee change. It's not rocket sceince.

You're forgetting about the location of the Cenotaph, so it's a bit more complicated than you would have us believe.
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 2nd Nov 2011, 01:48pm) *
You're forgetting about the location of the Cenotaph, so it's a bit more complicated than you would have us believe.

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TeeHeeHee:
There are a lot of good replies here about a generation or three whose lives were the down-payment for the freedom to protest (at tax-payers being ripped off by the financial districts around the world for example) and these young protestors are making use of that freedom and the Cenotaph; in honour of the brave young men who died for our freedoms, is the most honourable place for the protest to take place.

I think I covered that point.
Scotsman
Some great replies to this and I have enjoyed reading them!!

One thing that I think is important is what someone said (sorry dont recall who) is that in days gone past you would have expected the Labour councillors to be manning the barricades with the protestors rather than lurking around courts trying to get them thrown out of a public space. And where else should the protestors be?? Freezing in Buchanan Street??

I got the joke that Jupiter made smile.gif But when you think that it took aboot 100 polis to throw a East End granny out of her own home.... maybe its closer to the truth than we think. Time will tell....
Catarina
I am of two minds here...however, I did vote no to removing the Protesters.

We here in Canada,and almost in my own backyard have these same protesters. Like some of you, I wonder who these mostly young folks are.

Are the majority street people, with no work,no ambition, and no idea other than to join the gang. My fault, not knowing. I could quite easily just go to them,ask a few questions to satisfy my curiosity. Instead I follow their replies to inquiries made by newspaper, and T.V. reporters I have come to the conclusion their grievances are what the majority of us complain about daily. Banks, politicians, big business, overpaid CEOs, the gap between the rich and the poor. Like us, it seems, well by their quotes as I listen to them, they have no solutions, just mostly jargon, which I for one at times cannot decipher.

So where does it all end, and most importantly...how will it all end.

Unless a few professional thugs decide to infiltrate the group in St.George Square on Remembrance day, common sense would dictate that if this group of protesters wish to keep the support of John Q. public they will be respectful of our War Veterans,who died on Flanders field so that we, the Citizens of the World could be free to express in a peaceful manner, our democratic beliefs.

I do believe that these demonstrations are just the tip of the iceberg. People world wide are seeking justice. It is in our face daily on The Idiot Box.

APART FROM TELLING THESE PROTESTERS TO.."GO FIND A JOB"... OF WHICH I MYSELF ARE GUILTY AT TIMES.... DO YOU HAVE ANY VALID SOLUTIONS??? I KNOW I DON'T.
maise doats
Absolutely not. people protesting is the only way that the majority of people can make their voice heard. Glasgow Council have a cheek to call themselves socialists, so much for them being "the party of the people"
Cameron
Paperboy i might have moved to Canada and i might be a citizen but i did my time in the army before i came to Canada , did you do any time in the army?
Guest
QUOTE
We VETERANS fight for our country and civil rights, and a lot of good men and women gave there life for this freedom. As far as bankers and wall street go's look into the bildabirgers (bankers) that have taken over the banks world wide (wall street) these people want to take over the world (money madness) if you don't believe it check it out. i have!

If you look at many financial institutions you can read a list of bankers who did also give the ultimate sacrifice in war. Those people fought for their country too and are not here to condemn your post.
wee davy
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The police are a non political,non vested interest organisation ...

Says Joop

Gies a brek, pal laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Anybody resigned at the Met recently???
wombat
QUOTE (wee davy @ 2nd Nov 2011, 10:01pm) *
says Joop

Gies a brek, pal laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Anybody resigned at the Met recently???

laugh.gif made me laff tae wee davy.
thepaperboy
cameron because you were in the army is that the right to tell others how they have to live.big deal you in the army look back on the last few years your army hasn't done to well,iraq,look at the mess they left ,afganistan,just wait till they pull out and see the crap they leave.what was it dylan says if all eles fails join the army.and by the way 20% of our prisons are filled with xservice men and to answer your question NO i was not in the bloody army.i see you never answered about caledonia
*aja007*
These "protesters" are nothing but work-shy layabouts and should be removed asap!
wombat
the usuall sh.t will happen piggy's will bust a few heads .END laugh.gif
Jupiter
Ive just seen David Attenburgh and the penguins in the South Atlantic and the thought occurred to me that as a society they seem to be doing ok.They all look the same,have the same coat,dont seem to have leaders or any problems with finance or other mundane things.Jump in the sea and get a free fish when they are peckish and back up the road and on to the nest.All seem very pally as well because when they go for a walk there is usually a few hundred of them go together.One penguin doesnt have any more than the next penguin.Real equality.
The only drawback I could see is its a bit chilly down there but it doesnt seem to faze them as they have built in insulation and dont depend on winter payouts to pay the bills.
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