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odeonclubboy
i really dont know enough about this to have an opinion but as someone who once stood oi grosvernor square (london) and threw stones at the american embassy........
ashfield
QUOTE (Guest @ 9th Nov 2011, 12:09pm) *
IMO, Wendy is entitled to her own opinion. If we all had the same opinion there would be no messageboards as there would be absolutely nothing to discuss.

Yes, but it would be good if she, and you for that matter, would join the boards so that a "discussion" could actually take place. It's easy to post opinions anoymously without then having to justify your position.
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (droschke7 @ 9th Nov 2011, 11:06am) *
... It's easy to criticise when your in opposition or ... have no chance of ever getting in to power.

Two points there Droschke:
1) The opposition is there to criticise (Dictatorships rule that out.)
2) The people who protest can eventually overcome the power (Look at Egypt, Libya and etc..)
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (Guest @ 9th Nov 2011, 11:09am) *
IMO, Wendy is entitled to her own opinion. If we all had the same opinion there would be no messageboards as there would be absolutely nothing to discuss.

Now that we agree that Wendy's entitled to her opinion can we discuss whether or not it's a valid opinion since that's what discussion boards are for? rolleyes.gif
Over to you. tongue.gif
andypisces
Yes lets ban those folk who mess up our parks. Ban dog walking
odeonclubboy
the great thing about opinion in a democracy is that everyones entitled to one
odeonclubboy
QUOTE (andypisces @ 9th Nov 2011, 02:06pm) *
Yes lets ban those folk who mess up our parks. Ban dog walking

i dont have a dog...does my cat count?
ashfield
QUOTE (odeonclubboy @ 9th Nov 2011, 04:16pm) *
i dont have a dog...does my cat count?

If it does we can get it on "Britains got Talent" laugh.gif
odeonclubboy
QUOTE (ashfield @ 9th Nov 2011, 06:38pm) *
If it does we can get it on "Britains got Talent" laugh.gif

Oh my cat is very talented...i dont need an alarm clock she wakes me up every mornig...I WANT MY BREAKFAST!!!
Wendy
Thanks to everyone who replied to or read my comments. I didn't mean to offend anyone with my opinion and I wasn't trying to be nasty to the people at the campsite. I was actually meaning that the place would act as a magnet to the dodgy types who already - unfortunately - sometimes frequent this lovely park! Normally they will drift through and as long as everyone ignores them, then they will simply go away. I've seen quite a few of these types spoil a nice weekend family picnic, which is sad because when the good weather comes there's no better place than a sunny Kelvingrove Park.

I've enjoyed reading through the comments and will update you all if I see any developments on my walks. Reading the opinions has given me a bit of a different perspective on what is happening.
Heather
I think the Council are playing a smart game hiding the protesters away in the Park where not many people will see them. biggrin.gif
angel
In Lonton Ontario , the police removed all the tents from the park late last night , Tues. and there was no trouble, also the mayor of Toronto have asked the occupiers to leave, as he says , they have been there long enough , so we shall see what happens now .
wombat
QUOTE (Heather @ 9th Nov 2011, 11:40pm) *
I think the Council are playing a smart game hiding the protesters away in the Park where not many people will see them.


rolleyes.gif they could leave their tents and protest during the day heather cool.gif
GG

Various footage from Occupy Glasgow from over the past couple of weeks. Posted by 'Occupy Glasgow' on Youtube and promoted via Twitter.

A representative of the group telling what it is all about:


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TeeHeeHee
I for one am very happy that you've posted that Martin.
Certainly shoots down the "Occupation by Druggies" theories that seem to abound.
droschke7
I'm not bigotted or biased against "occupy Glasgow" or any other city, I just think that if these people got out there and worked or served their country, we wouldn't be in the mess we are. These people seem to be professional protestors, how else can they afford to live and eat if all they do is protest.

Their moto seems to be

"Everyone is entitled to my opinion"

LOL
TeeHeeHee
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... I just think that if these people got out there and worked ...

(Instead of protesting)

So who should protest against Wall St. & Co.?
Or should no one be protesting at all?
Look at the enormous cost of maintaining "Trident" which will never be used to kill anyone but as a status symbol ...
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... Britain's status is what Tony Blair, another committed Christian, emphasises in his autobiography, A Journey.
- "The expense [of Trident] is huge, and the utility in a post-cold war world is less in terms of deterrence, and non-existent in terms of military use", he wrote. Blair said he could see clearly the force of the "common sense and practical argument" against Trident. But in the end he thought giving it up would be "too big a downgrading of our status as a nation"

... but front line nurses are being laid off in their thousands while hospital executives are receiving embarrassingly high salaries (greater than the Prime Minister even who wanted to save Britain's Status Symbol at all cost.)
Remember the Big Bank Bail-outs and the Big Bank Bonuses that followed after your money bailed them out?
Where was your protest then? (A few complaints on GG perhaps?)
Let them protest - and give them support ... even if it's only in saying, "All the best kids. Good luck tae you," because someone needs to protest about the disgracful amount of money that is being taken from the workin' class to support the likes of corporate criminals ... and criminals they are; they're abusing your taxes while your granny canny heat her home again this winter.
mlconnelly
Well said THH. I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation. Bravo. tongue.gif laugh.gif
Heather
I don't see what purpose it serve's sitting in a Park at the other side of the Town.
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (mlconnelly @ 10th Nov 2011, 03:46pm) *
Well said THH. I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation. Bravo.

You and a few others. (Eh, Melody and Kennedy?) biggrin.gif
I never thought I'd see myself supporting anything that even resembled the meerest hint of a whiff of socialism but ... there you go. rolleyes.gif
If there was an *"Occupy Basel" I'd honestly go over the border and sit it out with them every afternoon. (I'm committed to walking a dog each morning and Mary doesn't care what I do during the day so long as I'm home in time to prepare her evening meal ... she brings home the bacon in our house and it's almost the half of her wages that go in taxes and insurance contributions as a single woman with no kids).
You could say I've seen the light ... Not that one Wee Davy. rolleyes.gif

* There is a group who still haven't got themselves organised into "Occupying" a particular site in Basel.
angel
Maybe it's a good thing Canada gets cold. I think the weather would discourage protestors after a while. The protesters have made their point, now that they have organized and discussed. Maybe it's now time for them to lobby or create an official organization to enact change? .

I have just read this comment in one of our newspapers .

This makes sense to me ,assumming that those occupiers /protesters
are truly more than just squatters .
ashfield
You may be right Angel, but have they made their point? I think all protests go through phases and right now it appears to me that they are at the "awareness raising" stage. What's going on reminds me of what the theatre group, 7:84 did, their name stemming from statistics published in 1966 that showed 7% of the British population held 84% of the wealth. Times may have changed but not enough to change things for those who are at the bottom of the finance ladder.

I am honestly bewildered why anyone would complain about what these young people are trying to do..............excepting those who are getting the ridiculously high salaries and bonuses of course.
droschke7
QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 10th Nov 2011, 06:22pm) *
You and a few others. (Eh, Melody and Kennedy?) biggrin.gif
I never thought I'd see myself supporting anything that even resembled the meerest hint of a whiff of socialism but ... there you go. rolleyes.gif
If there was an *"Occupy Basel" I'd honestly go over the border and sit it out with them every afternoon. (I'm committed to walking a dog each morning and Mary doesn't care what I do during the day so long as I'm home in time to prepare her evening meal ... she brings home the bacon in our house and it's almost the half of her wages that go in taxes and insurance contributions as a single woman with no kids).
You could say I've seen the light ... Not that one Wee Davy. rolleyes.gif

* There is a group who still haven't got themselves organised into "Occupying" a particular site in Basel.

if there were an occupy Basel or an occupy Berlin the water cannons would be out and the Swiss and German Police would be there. Armed, Dangerous and not standing for any crap.
angel
QUOTE (ashfield @ 10th Nov 2011, 05:49pm) *
You may be right Angel, but have they made their point? I think all protests go through phases and right now it appears to me that they are at the "awareness raising" stage. What's going on reminds me of what the theatre group, 7:84 did, their name stemming from statistics published in 1966 that showed 7% of the British population held 84% of the wealth. Times may have changed but not enough to change things for those who are at the bottom of the finance ladder.

I am honestly bewildered why anyone would complain about what these young people are trying to do..............excepting those who are getting the ridiculously high salaries and bonuses of course.

Ash , I think that these protestors have now made their point , That being a more balanced distribution of wealth , to those who are financially less fortunate , but I'm not sure what that means . ... if you have 10million dollars and I have 2million ,does this mean that you must share your good fortune with me because I have less , in fact I would be financially deprived , I don't think so ! you worked very hard for your money , and I probably not....Now having said that I do believe that the time for change is long past , the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, thats been the war cry forever . and how to change this whole system is beyond compehension and I don't think that those occupiers will ever achive that , certainly not in a tent .

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Just another snippet......

The Occupy movement, if they see the wisdom of not being defined as violent by resisting demands to leave, can lead in the continuing a fight not against capitalism but for democracy to be the greater value than greed.

And there remains the contradiction of controlling the use of a public space when it's not theirs to control. Our economic system may be broken, but it would appear our democratic institutions remain intact. The occupiers have made their point, and if council asks them to leave and they refuse, it becomes an illegal usurpation. The next step is obvious and unsavoury for all.

If they want that space, then in three years' time they can run for council and turn it into an urban campground if elected.
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (droschke7 @ 10th Nov 2011, 10:53pm) *
if there were an occupy Basel or an occupy Berlin the water cannons would be out and the Swiss and German Police would be there. Armed, Dangerous and not standing for any crap.

Not so. The Frankfurt business centre is occupied ... as is Berlin.
Can't imagine any of the Swiss Banks being occupied although I'm not sure about Bern.

Edit.
Yes ... Bern, Zurich (with 1000 protestors) etc.

"Occupy Switzerland"
QUOTE
By lunchtime the trams that snake through the square past the UBS and Credit Suisse Swiss headquarters had been cancelled as the crowd swelled.

http://www.wearechange.org/?p=10105
tamhickey
If anyone cares to watch the video that Martin has shared, you will see that there are many groups in society represented at the demonstration. It would appear to me that everyone involved is passionate about helping the least well off in society at the expense of those who could afford to do so. Why should we continue to prop up the banks and Insurance companies at the expense of the poor, low paid, pensioners and the sick as well as the closing down of schools, libraries, community halls worldwide?
The ordinary working man didn't cause this debacle, but he's paying for it and if we don't listen to the millions of voices protesting against it, we are saddling generations with further debt repayments.
Greece is bust, so is Italy, Ireland, Iceland and possibly Spain and Portugal. The USA is only kept afloat due to Chinese bonds. The UK is skint as well, yet all we see are millionaire politicians telling us we are all in this together. Guess who gets hit hardest?
Single parents, and all of the above previously mentioned, ie the poorest sections of society.
Had it not been for these young people highlighting the obvious dichotomy between Government and their people, the rest of us may well have just shrugged our shoulders and allowed it to pass without comment. To me, they have shown that they are not apathetic to politics which young people have been accused of in the past and are standing up for all of us, worldwide.
No-one else is doing this are they?
TeeHeeHee
Well said, Tam. Entirely agree with you. wink.gif
GG
Some photos from Armistice Day in George Square.

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And the fence around the grassed square which the Occupy Glasgow protesters were using was either being put back up or coming down – didn't realise which!

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Heather
Probably preparing the Square for the Christmas decorations.

Some of the Christmas lights in Baillieston Main Street are up. smile.gif
GG
You might be right, Heather. The area where the anti-greed protesters were (joined by some homeless people) is where the council puts the depiction of the manger scene. I think that's what they call irony ... evicted to make way for baby Jesus!

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Scotsman
Classic!! Those pesky protestors are back again.... tongue.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15774479
bilbo.s
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A Glasgow City Council spokesman said: "We have done everything we can to balance their right to protest with the right of people to enjoy their city."

"It's wrong for a tiny, unrepresentative group to make life difficult for Glaswegians and we urge them to see sense."

Can anyone explain exactly how the protestors are making life difficult for Glaswegians? unsure.gif
Scotsman
Agreed. It is simply ludicrous that a.... ahem.... left-wing council should yet again go out of its way to attack members of a peaceful protest. As far as I ken the Blythswood is not council land so why does this mouthpiece have to stick his big neb in?? If the council has nothing else to do then here is a wee clue for them.... Sauchiehall Street is in a disgraceful state.... any chance of cleaning it up a bit?? rolleyes.gif
GG
The following Freedom of Information request has been submitted to Glasgow City Council. The answers (or at least the response) should make interesting reading.

QUOTE
Dear Glasgow City Council,

I would like to request information under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act, 2002, in response to the below questions. Where there are no specific & relevant documents (such as agreement or plans) to provide information from, information from correspondence relevant to the substance of the question from within Legal, Parks and Public Safety Teams will suffice.

I gather under Section 15 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act, 2002, that I am entitled to assistance from you in regards to this request for information. I would appreciate warning if any of the below questions will result in excessive cost or other exemptions being applied so that I might rephrase them to be more suitable.

Yours sincerely,

Henry Sullivan

-Questions-

Q.1 What were the legal grounds on which the City Council presented to the Glasgow Sheriff Court to evict the Occupy Protesters from George Square?

Q.2 What are the terms of the agreement between the City Council and the Occupy Glasgow protesters formerly in George Square that resulted in their relocation to Kelvingrove Park?

Q.3 What alternative sites to George Square were offered to the Occupy Glasgow protesters before their relocation to Kelvingrove Park?

Q.4 Before the relocation, what amenities (e.g. food, water, fencing, portaloos, pallets etc.) and Council services (e.g. relocation support in terms of organisation and moving of equipment
and personal belongings, bin allocation & collection etc.) were offered by the City Council to the protesters at each sites offered (including Kelvingrove Park)?

Q.5 What amenities and services have the City Council provided to date to the Occupy Glasgow protesters now situated in Kelvingrove Park, either directly or through contractors?

Q.6 How much have these amenities and services cost in terms of equipment rental / purchase and staff overtime?

Q.7 What limits, if any, on the camp site have you informed the protesters of in regards to;
a) numbers of protesters
b) physical boundaries
c) behaviour
d) duration

Q.8 Does the City Council monitor the number of people and animals (both pets & livestock) within the protesters’ campsite?

Q.9 If the City Council has monitored the campsite, how often has done so?

Q.10 When will the current arrangements be reviewed by the City
Council & who will undertake it?

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/occu...incoming-226651

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GG
Edinburgh City Council have backed their 'Occupy Edinburgh' protesters:
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"Edinburgh city council has set a worldwide precedent by voting in favour of the motion to support the aims and sentiments of Occupy Edinburgh and the Occupy Movement as a whole.

With this historic decision, Edinburgh City Council is setting an example in local administration, as well as sending a message to the governments in both Holyrood and Westminster."

In response, Occupy Edinburgh issued a press statement:
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"We are pleased to announce that Edinburgh City Council has set a worldwide precedent by voting in favour of the motion to support the aims and sentiments of Occupy Edinburgh and the aims of the Occupy Movements as a whole. This motion was presented by the Scottish Green Party, was seconded by the Scottish Labour Party and was slightly amended by the SNP and LibDems. The only party not to back the motion was the Conservatives.

We regard this as a fantastic step forward in the opening of dialogue with the Scottish government. With this historic decision, Edinburgh City Council are setting an example in local administration, as well as sending a message to the governments in both Holyrood and Westminster. They have shown willingness for open dialogue and respect alongside a fundamental commitment to the concerns of the people they are elected to represent. The current systems for economy and resource distribution are grossly outdated, and as the people educate themselves we begin to demand changes. Symptoms such as the “austerity/bailout” response of our government only serves to solidify the attitude of cynicism toward our current economic system, which has already moved far into general acceptance. Local Councils are the first step in the re-population of democracy, and should be following the example of Scotland’s capital by aligning themselves to a grassroots paradigm that places people and community before profit and unsustainable growth."

Not everyone was pleased, however, and the Spectator asked what is surely the dumbest question ever asked regarding local government in Scotland:

Edinburgh: The Dumbest Council in Britain?
http://www.spectator.co.uk/alexmassie/7424...n-britain.thtml

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... Camp and protest to your heart's content and that's all fine and dandy, but the idea that this is a movement of the people whose views must be heard is laughable and it is typical of Edinburgh council, as mediocre a group as has ever mismanaged the city, to concern itself with such matters and elevate this inchoate protest movement to something it ain't and never will be. And since these people require no encouragement anyway there's no need to offer them any.

GG.
TeeHeeHee
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... They have shown willingness for open dialogue and respect alongside a fundamental commitment to the concerns of the people they are elected to represent.

At last. smile.gif

QUOTE
The only party not to back the motion was the Conservatives.

As if. rolleyes.gif
Scotsman
Any words on whether the protestors have been turfed out of Blythswood or not?? Last time I heard I think they had the gates locked on them and were awaiting the bailiffs to come knocking at any moment!!
GG
Sorry, Scotsman, I have not had time to go to Blythswood Square to check on the Occupy Glasgow protesters, but will try soon as I can and let you know.

Related to this subject, there was a comment article in the Scotsman yesterday by a professor of applied philosophy. I honestly don't know if this academic is 'at the wind up' or if he genuinely is unaware of the widespread and pernicious effect of inequality in society.

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... Some particular instances of inequality are wrong such as those that arise, say, from theft or fraud, but there is no convincing reason for condemning inequality as such. The protest campers do not indicate with sufficient clarity what particular sorts of inequality they disapprove of and why they disapprove of it. ...

Occupy camp is on shaky ground
http://www.scotsman.com/news/cartoon/hugh_...round_1_1991543

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GG
QUOTE (Scotsman @ 28th Nov 2011, 01:27pm) *
Any words on whether the protestors have been turfed out of Blythswood or not?? Last time I heard I think they had the gates locked on them and were awaiting the bailiffs to come knocking at any moment!!

Occupy Glasgow protesters have gone from Blythswood Square, and as of this week they have also vacated their camp at Kelvingrove. I think Thursday's hurricane, which caused considerable damage to the Kelvingrove campsite, has convinced them to pack-up for the winter.

A spokeswoman for the Occupy movement said:
QUOTE
"During our general assembly on Saturday we decided to close our Kelvingrove Park site down for the winter. But it is not the end of Occupy Glasgow. We've talked about finding a more suitable site indoors, but nothing has been found yet."

One protester, a local housewife, added:
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"This is the first time I've done anything like this in my life, but I just felt so strongly about the way people are being treated in this country that I had to come out and try and do something about it.

We need to keep fighting."

A less-than magnanimous council spokesman greeted the news with:
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"We have all said it is wrong for a tiny unrepresented group to make life difficult for Glaswegians and we have been urging them to see sense. So it is helpful if they are finally doing that."

GG.
GG
While the Evening Times seeemed happy just to see the Occupy Glasgow protesters go, the Sunday Post this week appeared to claim with some pride that it was their article which forced the anti-greed protesters in Kelvingrove Park to abandon their site. An article in the Dundee-based publication boasted:

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Protesters abandon camp after our report

Protesters who had turned one of Scotland's most famous parks into a "bombsite" abandoned their camp the day the story was highlighted in The Sunday Post.

Last Sunday, we reported that angry locals living near Kelvingrove Park in Glasgow had concerns about the [alleged] mess being created by Occupy Glasgow protesters.

And how Friends of kelvingrove – the charity which claims to try to maintain and enhance the park – bizzarely gave the unkempt camp the thunbs up.

On the day we published, the protesters packed up mand abandoned their tents after less than eight weeks [after being forced to re-locate from George Square]. ...

The article then went on to report quotes from park dog walkers who were unhappy about the protest camp interfering with their dog-walking activities.

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GG
Again, it is the protesters who show tolerence, understanding and respect... the following is an open letter to 'Kelvingrove area residents', taken from the Occupy Glasgow website:

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Dear Kelvingrove area residents,

Glasgow Occupy would like to thank you for your support and patience during our stay.

We appreciate all the kind words from so many of you, and generous donations which were made to us here at our camp. It is with sadness and regret that we voted on Saturday 10th December 2011, to end our occupation in Kelvingrove Park. As we are sure will be understood, unusual weather conditions have ultimately been to blame for this, and the mud quite unrelenting.

There have been press articles, notably on Sunday, which would have you believe Occupy Glasgow abandoned the site and all the belongings therein. We assure you that any suggestion that we are just leaving a mess for the Council to deal with is quite incorrect – we are clearing up the site ourselves, albeit not as quickly as a council team probably could. This is because, as responsible people, we want to go through our things, and recycle and re-use the materials where possible, rather than have them go unnecessarily to landfill. We have spoken with Glasgow City Council Cleansing Department, who have agreed to work with us to remove waste as and when we put it out for collection.

We have learned a great deal regarding our own resource and disposal management, and future Occupy camps in Glasgow will make use of that knowledge in order to minimise potential environmental damage. If given permission by Glasgow City Council, at a suitable date we plan to repair the park area used during our occupation.

Occupy Glasgow as part of a worldwide movement will continue in its work. Meanwhile, again, we thank you for your support and patience.

We wish everyone a happy Festive season and look forward to a productive New Year for all!

Kind regards,

Occupy Glasgow Kelvingrove.

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ashfield
Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab. I wondered who the Sunday Post reader was and now you've revealed yourself GG tongue.gif

I gave up reading this "paper" in the "reds under the bed" days but it did teach me a valuable lesson about not believing everything (or in some cases anything) you read in the papers mellow.gif
GG
smile.gif Ashfield, would you believe that it was left in the newspaper rack of a pub which I happened to visit yesterday, and I was therefore able to take the story from that discarded copy?

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ashfield
Of course I would believe you rolleyes.gif

And the pub makes sense too, I would need a strong drink before opening the pages of TSP as well laugh.gif
GG
Mee too! smile.gif

Here's another story related to the Occupy Glasgow protesters (in the general sense) from the 'pub newspaper rack', this time yesterday's Sunday Express:

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Today children, the class will be learning how to protest

Waving placards demanding change and marching for issues they believe in, they resemble any of the protesters who have attended this year's mass demonstrations.

But standing just three or four feet tall, and some only three years old, these young campaigners are hardly the anarchists who brought chaos to London. Instead, the mini-protesters are part of a controversial art class designed to give children a taste of what it is like to take part in a real-life demo.

For the past two months, including last Saturday morning, the Glasgow Gallery of Modern Art (GoMA) has held regular workshops that allow the youngsters to "create their own protest artwork". ...

So, you've got a situation where the council is condeming protesters as "wrong" at every opportunity, then Glasgow Life, the council's leisure "quango" (Sunday Express term), goes out of its way to teach future protesters how to protest ... all at public expense!

Commenting on the 'protest classes' at the GOMA in Royal Exchange Square, one father, who asked not to be named, told the Sunday Express:

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"My daughter had a great time making placards and writing slogans on them, before marching up and down the museum, but I did wonder whether it was right to be encouraging children to protest.

In the current climate, with all the cutbacks, some people seem to make a habit of going on a rally about this, that or the other "In the current climate, with all the cutbacks, some people seem to make a habit of going on a rally about this, that or the other almost every weekend.

But that doesn't mean a taxpayer-funded museum should be telling our children that protests are great fun. After all, "But that doesn't mean a taxpayer-funded museum should be telling our children that protests are great fun. After all, protesters are not always in the right, and protest marches have often been known to turn violent."

Only in Glasgow! You've got to hand it to Glasgow Life for apparently not listening to the council, and giving local children the opportunity to express themselves in protest!

Among the placards created by the kids – who then marched round the gallery with them –"More Lego, more play!" and "Less work, more pancakes!"

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mlconnelly
"More Lego, more play!" and "Less work, more pancakes!"

Brilliant. Get rid of all the councilors and give the kids all the power.

Love Lego but love pancakes even more.

Go kids,

Mary laugh.gif laugh.gif
TeeHeeHee
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The article then went on to report quotes from park dog walkers who were unhappy about the protest camp interfering with their dog-walking activities.

Being a dog walker myself wink.gif I can fully sympathise with these poor people whose daily routine has been so drastically disrupted by the inconsiderate actions of a dedicated few representing the 99% of the population who are systematically ripped off by Wall Street and it's siblings.
There is absolutely nothing in this world which is more inconvenient than being unable to walk your dog in the park. rolleyes.gif
That's why I take Bonnie up onto the mountain tongue.gif
dondon
I am also a dog walker but these protestors could in no way be representing the 99% of anything. I for one just wish they would go get a job and pay tax and then they would actually be helping others instead of living off the finance of others.

How long have all these people been in situ across the globe and yet to date they have failed miserably to come up with any viable idea of how to remedy the situation. All they ever repeat is it's all the bankers fault. Well give us a remedy instead of the same old story.

Give the parks back to the canine dogs
angel


I thought these little snippets , might possibly be of interest .....


Although Occupy Toronto's encampment has been gone for a month, occupiers were continuing to meet every day and have held a number of marches to try to build awareness of their social-justice cause, Ms. Wolscht said.

After the eviction operation ended, St. James Park was left a muddy, sodden mess, but it was restored at no cost to the city after Landscape Ontario and the Nursery Sod Growers of Ontario donated 12 tractortrailer loads of sod and free installation.

About 30 truckloads of waste were removed from the park during the eviction operation, city staff confirmed.

The five-week Occupy Toronto encampment cost taxpayers $714,000, mostly for policing, the city revealed Friday.

The rest of the costs pertained to various city divisions: parks, forestry and recreation ($8,181.81); solid waste management ($5,075.41); Toronto Fire ($1,171.82); Toronto EMS ($36,909.97); and shelter, support and housing administration ($1,208.58).



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