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Rabbie
Richt here is wan thing, wan thing of many things that get on ma napper and drive me richt up the 'wa.

I am sure most of us have, at some stage in our lives, come across them. Aye, ye guessed it, doddering auld dears propped up on booster cushions who can hardly see over the steering wheel an hence oot the windea, whilst they wheechle alang at a deadly breakneck pace, namely the stately rate of less than 25 MPH, much to the consternation of other road users forming the 15 mile lang queue trailing behind.

Harmless, right?

Ever give a wee thought as to the possible disproptionate amount of accidents caused due to the sheer frustation they unwittingly or more likely wittingly create, like fowks having to take risks in order to overtake. Ever remember how long it took to get up tae Inverness / Fort William stuck behind wan of these. Overtake, narrowly avoid a premature date with Mr Reaper only to get stuck ahint a bliddy caravan driven by guess wit. Aye, hard times indeed.

So how do we keep our highways and hence the remainder of the driving public safe from these slow coach road hogs. Should retesting be compulsory at say 70, with an annual medical test to ensure the individual is at least fit, safe and mentally competant to get into thier death dealing tincan chariot and is properly licensed to drive others to insanity.

The insanitary to the insane ruling the roost on the roads, it dinnea bode well for the future, fowks.

Well, implementing new measures may be inconvienant and in these days of abject austertity, overbearingly expensive to burden tax payers aka bank shareholders with. So please allow me introduce the new test to be implemented.


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As you can see the test is self explanatory. Moreover, it is cheap and as long as the canine tester is securely tethered, safe and humane <sic>.

So, if ye take yer wee duggie oot fur a spin and eet ends up looking as alarmed as yon poor wee potlicker, I would suggest that it is time to hing up yer keys, charge up yer lecky shopping buggy then engage in a wee game of terrorising and skittling pedestrains, you ken eet's braw fun.

Who says auld yins dinnea ken how to have a wee tate 'o fun?
Dave Grieve
Its estimated 50% of the new drivers here dont have a licence. they learn as they go, at least 50% of the public taxis on the road are not roadworthy, some instances of taxis pulled of recently are cardboard being used as brake pads, a vice grip on the steering column in place of the (missing) steering wheel.
Today again here in Joburg another taxi overturned when the tires burst and 12 people ended up in hospital luckily no dead. driver was speeding with defective tires.
Think yourself lucky Rabbie you only have little old ladies to worry about. LOL
proudmaryhiller
Rabbie, my dad's 81 and still drives, he is a very careful driver, but one day he was going just a little slow and this loud horn went off behind us! my dad just gave that driver a wee wave! (well I think that's what it's called) tongue.gif biggrin.gif
angel



By Richard Rohmer

As I drive my car around the town where I live I see an enormous number of senior/seniors (all Zoomers!) behind the steering wheel of their beloved, must have automobiles.

Some of them can barely get in or out of their vehicles because of faulty legs, bad backs or whatever. But when they’re in the car, seat belt on, ready to turn on the ignition they’re ready to go.

I don’t think any of them are speed demons. They motor along at reasonable, conservative rates. They’re extra careful on the road or in the shopping centre parking lot or the liquor store lot.

What’s a senior/senior Zoomer? Well, I’m one and there’s no way I’ll tell you my age. A clue however. A few months ago I passed my regular two year vision exam and written test for 80 year olds and over. And a month ago I passed the stringent medical for the renewal of my private pilot’s license. I’ve been flying ever since I was eighteen.
Reality for me is that yes, I am over 80; yes, I am unusually fit physically; and yes I can drive long and short distances. No problem. And, yes, Ontario’s Senior Drivers Renewal Program (unique in Canada) allows those of us who are reasonably fit to continue driving while it provides a system that can screen out drivers who should no longer be driving.

The Ontario Program’s mandatory education sessions have had a notable impact on reducing collisions with seniors behind the wheel. At these sessions seniors who are not able to engage in dialogue with the instructor or are confused are required to undergo further testing. If they can’t meet the basic standards then the examiner can refuse to “pass” the candidate.
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I would like to add to this article ..... while watching a tv programme a few weeks ago, it concluded that most highway accidents in this provence are caused by younger people.
Rab-oldname
As a former member of the local constabulary, you may well understand my consternation one day when I saw an elderly lady driver stop a few yards from where I was standing. get out of her wee Mini, extract the dog from the back seat along with her shopping bags, then remove her WHITE STICK from beneath her seat and walk off, tapping the pavement with it!!! We had words!
(She had specs with lens like beer-glass bottoms)
benny
Ah'd raither be stuck behind a 25mph auldie than oan the road beside some o the loony teens and twenties ah see drivin aboot. 60mph in a 30mph zone is a bit merr dangerous tae ma mind than crawlin alang at 25mph.
Jupiter
I have always tried to drive to the limit and according to prevailing conditions,traffic volume,weather etc.
I think it helps too if there is no time limit on your journey. Its fair to say that many people lead hectic lives(although Ive no stats or figures to prove this) and are forever chasing the clock which means that when they do get behind a driver doing 28mph in a 30 zone they get frustrated,agitated and then attempt to carry out moves which are less than safe.
I think(and I will stand corrected)that insurance stats show that older drivers submit far less claims than their younger whizz kid counterparts.
As Michael Winner would say and I have to agree,when on the road,"Calm down dear"

Dunvegan
In Canada there are compulsory "age" tests for drivers over seventy and beyond. The licence is restricted further as the holder ages. No such systems exist in Australia where due to the actions of one geriatric female who was visually impaired and in no physical condition to be in charge of the very large car she was driving, I now walk with a sever and painful limp and can not partake of the activities I would normally pursue.
Dunvegan
QUOTE (Rab @ 28th Jun 2011, 04:39am) *
As a former member of the local constabulary, you may well understand my consternation one day when I saw an elderly lady driver stop a few yards from where I was standing. get out of her wee Mini, extract the dog from the back seat along with her shopping bags, then remove her WHITE STICK from beneath her seat and walk off, tapping the pavement with it!!! We had words!
(She had specs with lens like beer-glass bottoms)

Seen it done in Melbourne suburb; he drove on the wrong side of the road, causing traffic to flee in all directions, mounted the pavement, parked at 45Deg to the road, on the pavement . Got his "stick" and tapped his way into the Soldiers club where no doubt he was going to have a few drinks before continuing on his merry way.
benny
QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 28th Jun 2011, 02:53am) *
In Canada there are compulsory "age" tests for drivers over seventy and beyond. The licence is restricted further as the holder ages. No such systems exist in Australia where due to the actions of one geriatric female who was visually impaired and in no physical condition to be in charge of the very large car she was driving, I now walk with a sever and painful limp and can not partake of the activities I would normally pursue.



???? You opened bottles wi yer feet? biggrin.gif
beth
Yes Dave, driving down here in KZN is shocking also. Indicators, whit ur they? The white lines on the road are just to make the road look nice and as for the emergency lane? That is to speed down when the taxi is behind schedule. We have bakkies carrying 10 or 12 children to school bald tyres, and no canopies. Must be the only country in the worl when there is an accident between two vehicles and 10 people are killed and 20 injured! Driving schools have lorries cos you can get a code 10 heavy vehicle licence and drive a motor car. The reason being that it is easier to get your lorry licence than a car licence. I could go on and on and like dave says, be thankful you only have little old ladies to worry about. We have them also. I work with them and shudder when I see them get in their car. off to work now to fight the learner drivers in their lorry driving through our leafy suburb
Rabbie
Och aye, there is so much more than wee auld ladies to consider.

Like; inconsiderate parking, handheld mobile phone misuser's, blue badges manufactured from rice crispie boaxes, tax dodgers, uninsured drivers, boy racers, road rage, caravans, and farmyard machinery hogging long stretches of busy A roads, insurance salesmen and highway robbers, Costa a Bomb service stations, at least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Auld dears and geezers are a wee issue in this area of the Pembrokeshire National Park, closes for winter, (July thro May) as the place is overrun by massive swarms of silver surfing emmets and grockles who have escaped the confines of The "Over the Bridge" Darby and Joan Coterie.


Hand in hand when our life was May
Hand in hand when our hair is grey
Shadow and sun for every one
As the years roll on
Hand in hand when the long night tide
Gently covers us side by side
Ah! lad, though we know not when
Love will be with us forever then
Always the same, Darby my own
Always the same to your old wife Joan


Seemingly, judging by witnessing their behavior in cars and coaches many have never seen a beach, seagull, field, sheep or coo afore. There is also the local knitting circle, whist drive and housey housey squad to take into account.

I mean some of their senses / physical conditions / reflexes are apparently so seriously impaired that they should not be on the road unless accompanied by a slow moving hazard escort. Strangely, when it comes to calling a line or hoose they have the reflexes surpassing that of an elite F22 jet fighter pilot.

There is hardly a day whilst out for a walk or bike ride I don't witness other road users having to take avoiding action to avert a collision when an elderly driver crawls out a junction and accelerates at a rate that a snail would surpass. One day it will end up in a serious fatality or even worse, the incident could result in a injury claim to wan of those irritating scumbag, dugshit personal injury outfits.

There is another issue hereaboots, a big one, speeding. There is a 40 mph restriction where the road passes adjacent to the village. Of course this speed limit, for the most part is ignored. I just don't mean some random chancer beetling along around 45 mph either.

On this rural and otherwise peaceful stretch of tarmac, during the last 5 years there have been 6 over the hedge / garden wall fatalities which have all been attributed to excess speed involving youngsters.

Opposite sides of the coin.

On the surface, it would appear that up and coming auld duffers have the upper hand in the safety stakes, it would follow that a significant killer on the roads is due to teenage angst, booze compounded with a liberal dash of speeding.
TeeHeeHee
Just think, Rabbie, you have all this to look forward to. laugh.gif
Rabbie
QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 28th Jun 2011, 02:08pm) *
Just think, Rabbie, you have all this to look forward to. laugh.gif


Aye Tomi, was hoping ye could gie me some guid advice!

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ashfield
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Ah don't drive standards, ah drive Fords rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
beth
tae the end o yir post NAW rabbie, over here it is just total disregard for the law, in most cases. Us law abiding citizens are easy prey. We pay our road taxes and incurred fines so our details are on record. For loads of folk, some who have bought licences and some who have none and some who work for taxi bosses, no details are on file. SO.............fur the folk who are not on file but who have incurred HUMUNGOUS fines, there is a once a year amnesty where they only have to pay about 30% of the fines incurred with no questions asked. So who is daft or uneducated I ask you
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (Rabbie @ 28th Jun 2011, 02:08pm) *
Aye Tomi, was hoping ye could gie me some guid advice!

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When ma fit goes numb on the gas pedal A jist push doon oan ma knee wi' ma left haun (my fit springs back automatic when I use ma haun tae chinge gear (left haun drive) laugh.gif
Dunvegan
QUOTE (benny @ 28th Jun 2011, 05:47pm) *
???? You opened bottles wi yer feet? biggrin.gif

Teeth, and most of them are now gone because of it!!!
Dunvegan
QUOTE (beth @ 28th Jun 2011, 06:07pm) *
Yes Dave, driving down here in KZN is shocking also. Indicators, whit ur they? The white lines on the road are just to make the road look nice and as for the emergency lane? That is to speed down when the taxi is behind schedule. We have bakkies carrying 10 or 12 children to school bald tyres, and no canopies. Must be the only country in the worl when there is an accident between two vehicles and 10 people are killed and 20 injured! Driving schools have lorries cos you can get a code 10 heavy vehicle licence and drive a motor car. The reason being that it is easier to get your lorry licence than a car licence. I could go on and on and like dave says, be thankful you only have little old ladies to worry about. We have them also. I work with them and shudder when I see them get in their car. off to work now to fight the learner drivers in their lorry driving through our leafy suburb

Thats how they drive in Queensland; living as I do on the border it is a life hazard. tongue.gif
Rabbie
QUOTE (beth @ 28th Jun 2011, 06:16pm) *
tae the end o yir post NAW rabbie, over here it is just total disregard for the law


Aye, Beth I dea understaund wit yer are saying.

Rules are fur fools and the guidance of the wise, nowt as blind as the blonde leading the blind.

It does appear that certain laws are made to be disregarded, take the now defunct UK poll tax fur instance. No that I paid a bliddy penny of it as I moved out of country till they got rid of it and Dominatrix Thatcher and her lickspittle, submissive eunuchs.

Have to say I am suffering wanderlust again due to the latest bunch of shitwit inepts "in charge" of this once green and peasant land.

I feel, these days, that many ninja / backdoor laws seem mair about controlling / oppressing the UK populace rather than protecting us.





Rabbie
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Ah don\'t drive standards, ah drive Fords

Dagenham dustbins, if I recall these were prone to severe tin worm. Yer obviously a Eminent Professor of Metallurgy, <doffs Mortar Board>.

Yet, I dinnea ken why The Guid Lord Ashfield would be seen in Public, trail blazing around comfortable ensconced in an ancient rust bucket. When for the same price, His Lordship could be the Proud owner of a brand new GLEAMING Triumph Herald!


Tomi, yet spanner wankering and tin snipping skills are required. I will attend tae the "wiring" ph34r.gif
Rabbie
QUOTE (proudmaryhiller @ 27th Jun 2011, 06:11pm) *
Rabbie, my dad's 81 and still drives, he is a very careful driver, but one day he was going just a little slow and this loud horn went off behind us! my dad just gave that driver a wee wave! (well I think that's what it's called) tongue.gif biggrin.gif


Naw, it's called the finger, Mary.

Shocking ain't it? Ah jist dinnea ken where we get it frea, at awe.

Sure widnea have happened when we was wee weans as we wus posh and cultured.. unsure.gif

Every time I see your name a wee ditty hits me and always makes me smile!

Big wheel keep on turnin'

Proud Mary keep on burnin'

Rollin', rollin', rollin' on the river


Must be getting auld <er>.

Andy Murray better win the morra. jist fur Scotland!
mlconnelly
Rab, if Andy Murray wins the morra, he'll be British no Scottish. At least the English news readers will think so. Mary laugh.gif
ashfield
QUOTE (Rabbie @ 29th Jun 2011, 03:27am) *
Yet, I dinnea ken why The Guid Lord Ashfield would be seen in Public, trail blazing around comfortable ensconced in an ancient rust bucket. When for the same price, His Lordship could be the Proud owner of a brand new GLEAMING Triumph Herald!


Rabbie, by pure chance, my missus got her first car from one of her rellies for a small fee.............a Triumph Herald. First spot of trouble, she took it to a garage where the mechanic pointed out where the chassis was being held together by a stick tied on with rope huh.gif She took it straight to a scrappy. My own first car was a Austin A35, the bolt fastening the steering column wouldnae tighten and the bodywork was more fibreglass than metal ohmy.gif
Dunvegan
QUOTE (mlconnelly @ 30th Jun 2011, 02:06am) *
Rab, if Andy Murray wins the morra, he'll be British no Scottish. At least the English news readers will think so. Mary laugh.gif

Remember when the "Great Manchester United" became the first "british" club to win The European Cup. ( as announced on british media at the time)??? Just goes to show Glasgow Celtic was not a "british" team!!!!
Dave Grieve
What has been bugging me for a long time is the lack of road sense and manners displayed on Joburgs roads, by drivers i would expect more from that seem to get worse daily.
This morning I have a stupid old woman trying to drive across the road in front of me even though she new she did not have right of way. (we use stop signs at every side street)
At the next traffic light i am waiting to turn right when the light changes to red which means I should have been able to complete my turn, three cars then decide that they would rather go through the red lights than risk their brakes failing, after they had gone past I started my turn only to be stopped by a fourth car turning left against the red light, after sorting that one out a few minutes later the fourth car overtakes me and disapears at speed it was a brand new 'S' type Mercedes sports with the number plates '4 BARBIE'
says it all really
beth
No different in Durbs
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (Dave Grieve @ 21st Jul 2011, 07:22am) *
... This morning I have a stupid old woman trying to drive across the road in front of me even though she new she did not have right of way.

I was about to reply to this about 12 hours ago but I wasn't long out of bed and tryin' to let the coffee take effect so the last thing I needed was excitment.
But I could handle the excitment now tongue.gif
I still get a rush now thinkin' about it before I start to relate.
I have three ways of gettin' to the airport in Basel. All involve border crossing and two are through the City of Basel or the adjacent French town and the other is through a French village and a few hundred meters Autoroute to the F/CH border then right hook and up the airport road. Just before the French Motorway there's a bridge which crosses it. We drive on the right here. On my right and shortly before the bridge is a sliproad onto the M-way North ... and cars waiting in the opposite lane waiting to cross my path to access M-way North. Some off them are cutting across as I; not exactly racin' ... but, continue at my speed because there is still room, then, one guy crosses my path and although I'm not decelerating I'm thinkin' it might be next cos the car waitin' behind him looks like he might go and if he does he'll need to go now or I'll really have to take my foot off ... but he doesn't go ... then he does ... then he stops ... with his back half still on my lane ... and I'm already past the point where using the brakes might be of any use ... and I throw the Mercedes 190; 2.3ltr, hard left and right again and see the next in line ... as it was ... waitin' for a head-on with me and to my right as I'm smashin' into 2nd from 5th gear, I see my gap and gun it right again givin a bit of hand-brake as I'm spinnin' left again and pointing now in the same direction as if I'd just driven straight through the guy, who, in my rear-view, is still stuck where he stalled.
The guy who saw me comin' in head on, then side-on then disappear, I never took him in at all; I was a bit busy just then, but the guy behind him had the biggest goggle eyes starin' at me 'as I saw him when straightening out as I passed him - but the third car driver had his window down and was sticking both thumbs out - and up. rolleyes.gif
It was about then, feeling his appreciation I suppose, that I suddenly noticed my heart beating with a ... thump ... thump ... and wondered if it had stopped back there for a bit and was just kickin' back in because the tempo and the strength of the beat, well, ye couldn't miss that could you ?

They don't have to be old ladies crossin' your path ... especially when they are suposed to be waitin' till the path is clear before tryin' tae cross before their engines pack in.

See, all those PlayStation hours put tae good use.
I'll need tae go and calm myself down again ... sounds like a job for Batman. biggrin.gif

Dave Grieve
Great story
Had to read it three times to get beside you in the drivers seat so to speak.
got some driving stories but none as hairaising as that one.

One of my favourites is about a friend of mine that has now passed on to the racetrack in the sky.
John Mclean was his name. from south of the Clyde somewhere.
John decided to buy a new Triumph 2000 and drive up to the then Rhodesia as he had always wanted to see Vic Falls.
Problem was in those days you had to travel in convoy between the various town because of attacks by bandits on lone travellers.
No problem thinks John its another experience to talk about when i'me old and grey.
So off he goes. From Joburg to the Rhodesian border he can put foot and enjoy the drive,gets to the border and crosses over only to be told that the next convoy will only leave in about four hours time. so john contents himself with a couple of beers in the nearest hotel waiting for the off.
To cut a long story short this was the pattern every time he wanted to travel between towns, sit and wait until there was enough vehicles to make up the convoy and then everybody would leave together.

The Convoy Rules were, the lead armoured car sets the pace normally 100kms an hour, convoy stops for no reason, if theres an ambush the convoy pushes through, any vehicles that dont make it, help will be sent back to try and assist, any vehicle breaking down to be left to their own devices but their position will be radioed ahead and the nearest army unit able to assist will be notified.

My chummy John knows all this when he sets out but now on the homeward leg from Bulawayo to the SA border gets impatient and decides that he will make it to the border faster on his own.
next morning he rises, has a good breakfast and drive to the location in Bulawayo where the convoy is gathering, he can tell now with his experienced eye that this convoy is not leaving for a few hours yet so decides to gap it for the border.
Apparently all was going well until about 60 or 70kms from the SA border when the Triumph broke down, didn't matter what John did he couldent get the car started. So being a resourceful type of guy he decided the best thing to to was wait for the convoy.
Three or Four hours later he sees the convoy coming up and gets out the car to greet them, only to realise convoy rule No2 The convoy stops for no reason.
Deflated Dejected he went back into the car to sit in the shade not really knowing what to do. Hours later its starting to get dark and now he is really getting worried when he looks in the rear mirror and see's somebody walking down the road towards the car with a rifle in his hands, John's thinking thats it am dun mah teas oot. When the rifleman reaches John he turns out to be a scout from a nearby mine that had been sent out to try and pick up any signs of bandits getting ready to attack the mine.
He called the mine and they sent out a truck and towed John into the mine where he stayed for the next two weeks waiting for the spares from Joburg to fix the car to reach him.
Two weeks later than expected John arrived back home and the first thing he did was trade in the Triumph.
RIP John
Jupiter
Dunvegan what Ive noticed about the driving in WA is that it is not aggresive like France,Spain,Italy etc but its a case of you better watch out for yourself as the drivers dont seem to big on driver etiquette and its basically man mind thyself.They dont for example show some of the courtesies you might expect in Glasgow like letting you out of a junction etc and they certainly think indicators are for show.In saying that Id rather be driving here than Paris where I spent three hours like Clark Griswold trying to exit L"Etoile. rolleyes.gif
bilbo.s
I am much happier driving in Spain. I see the odd maniac from time to time, but in Aberdeenshire I saw many every day, going to and from work. The roads are much quieter here too and in better nick. In short, driving is once more a pleasure.
Jupiter
In fairness Bilbo,my experience in Spain(driving that is)is limited.
angel


I have been in spain a few times ,and like most countries, ie , in the big cities or tourist areas , the driving was just fine, .
angel
QUOTE (angel @ 22nd Jul 2011, 02:29pm) *
I have been in spain a few times ,and like most countries, ie , in the big cities or tourist areas , the driving was just fine, .


As I do not know how to delete my above post, which is entirely wrong
I will try again ........................ huh.gif

I have been in Spain a few times , and like most countries , the ,
large cities , their down town centre's and tourist attractions , if you are not familiar with these places , then the driving can be very stessful
indeed, however , when driving outside of these built up area's in Spain ,
I found the driving to be fine , much the same as is in other countries .

bilbo.s
Hmmm. That seems better. A car in a big city is just a liability. I find the worst stress is finding somewhere to park.
angel

See ,as I said once before in another thread , I'm not to good at
multi tasking when it comes to typing and thinking . biggrin.gif
TeeHeeHee
QUOTE
name='angel' date='22nd Jul 2011, 05:23pm' post='3546521']
As I do not know how to delete my above post, which is entirely wrong
I will try again ........................ huh.gif


Angel, click on EDIT and if you're too late for that click on QUOTE and you can edit or delete to your heart's content. laugh.gif


TeeHeeHee
QUOTE (angel @ 22nd Jul 2011, 03:29pm) *
I have been in spain a few times ,and the driving was just fine, ... But I'll bet it's much better tearing up and down German autobahns at over 200kph - that Tomi makes me jealous . tongue.gif

See how easy it is. laugh.gif
angel
I have been in spain a few times ,and the driving was just fine, ... But I'll bet it's much better tearing up and down German autobahns at over 200kph - that Tomi makes me jealous .
See how easy it is.

lol........ Hi Tomi ,I think it might be easier tearing up the autobahn
than it is for me to find the edit button ," can you help " ? unsure.gif

ps.. we did tear up the autobahn many years ago , driving from Baden up into Rotterdam , me screaming all the way , we where trying to catch the ferry for Hull ... We made it by the skin of our teeth biggrin.gif
angel
hi Tomi I now see the edit button and I thought that I had edited
my post to you , but I obviously have done something wrong . sad.gif
proudmaryhiller
In the early 1970's a neighbour of ours and her two girls went to Spain for a holiday, she didnt come back, she pushed her youngest daughter out the way and took the full impact and was killed instantly, I was absolutely traumatised when I heard this, she was a lovely lady and just reading the post about driving in Spain brought it all back again, it was a terrible time, will never forget it.
Dave Grieve
I see theres talk of increasing the speed limit in the UK to
80mph/+-130klm

We are the opposite here with talk of dropping it from 120klm to
100 klm/+-62mph

with over 1000 fatalities a month caused by road accidents the traffic authorities think this will help.

Its estimated more than 50% of drivers on our roads dont have a legal licence and with majority of deaths being pedestrians, I dont see the point.
Dave Grieve
Well its that time of year again, Christmas month when all the people living in Joburg for work reasons head home and all the Joburgers head to the coast on holiday.
On the 21st we passed the 700 dead mark for this month with the two busiest weeks to come.
Last year there were 1500+ killed over the holiday period looks like we are on our way to break that figure this year.
DavidT
QUOTE (Dave Grieve @ 22nd Dec 2012, 11:29am) *
Well its that time of year again, Christmas month when all the people living in Joburg for work reasons head home and all the Joburgers head to the coast on holiday.
On the 21st we passed the 700 dead mark for this month with the two busiest weeks to come.
Last year there were 1500+ killed over the holiday period looks like we are on our way to break that figure this year.

Shocking figures Dave. You take care out there. Happy Christmas to you and yours. smile.gif
Jupiter
Dave are you referring to victims of Road Traffic Accidents? If so that is absolutely incredible.
Merry Christmas and remember the rules on the front page of your school jotter. rolleyes.gif
Dave Grieve
QUOTE (Jupiter @ 22nd Dec 2012, 01:11pm) *
Dave are you referring to victims of Road Traffic Accidents? If so that is absolutely incredible.
Merry Christmas and remember the rules on the front page of your school jotter. rolleyes.gif


Over 700 dead so far this month either as a driver, passenger or pedestrian killed by a motor vehicle.
Jupiter
Dave Ive no stats data or figures but that sounds more than in the UK in a year.What is the SA govt doing about it?
Dave Grieve
QUOTE (Jupiter @ 22nd Dec 2012, 02:06pm) *
Dave Ive no stats data or figures but that sounds more than in the UK in a year.What is the SA govt doing about it?


In a word nothing they talk a lot but apart from hiding under a bush speed trapping they do nothing.
The average per month every month is over 1000 killed as a result of vehicle accidents, the reason it gets more publicity at this time of year is because of the number of people killed in taxi/bus accidents.

Taxis here typically carry a minimum of 16 people and the majority are not roadworthy, a lot of them at this time of year are towing a trailer, in a roadblock outside Cape Town yesterday three single decker buses were declared unroadworthy and had to be towed away, they were too dangerous to drive.
That left over 150 people standing at the side of the road looking for transport.
Jupiter
Unbeleevable!
Isobel
Earlier this week a dear old friend in her eighties was run over and killed. She had the right of way , but someone was in a real hurry and mowed her down.I was talking with her the day before and she was so up about Christmas her son was coming up from the stated for Christmas. How fast things can change.She was in a coma for a few days they passed away on Thursday.
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