Tommy Sheridan Sentenced Today, Ex-MSP sentenced to 3 years in prison Options

[snowman123]

GG,
I agree with you..... lets hope he is out sooner rather than later.

[fronswa]

It would have been nice if he'd avoided jail altogether, but hard to imagine. He was done on 5 counts of perjury, didn't come clean in the end, and didn't show any remorse.

Although he did say

He said the “whole impact of the clang of the prison gates” was the “real deterrent” from reoffending.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/editor-...ridan-1.1081844
I've a feeling the Times might be 'working' the quotes there a little.

The Solidarity statement says...

We believe the lengthy jail term imposed by the judge is vindictive

There was some sort of lawyer on telly earlier saying that if it was any less he wouldn't have been surprised if the Crown had appealed against the decision. Didn't know the Crown could do that.

Will he ever come out and say, "Aye OK. Ah done it"?

EDIT:
By the way. We do all know that Tommy is appealing against the conviction yeah? He said he didn't get a fair trail due to media attention.

[Jupiter]

Is it possible that the Judges words and reference to bringing the walls of the temple down were in fact a message to Sheridan and alluded to King Solomons Temple.In Masonic legend the architect of the temple is murdered after failing to give up the password of the Master Mason and the subsequent lesson in fidelity to ones word and the shortness of life.Sheridans course of action throughout may be seen as lacking in fidelity.
So is it the Masons in the Judiciary and the Press who are really responsible for Sheridans downfall and have told him so in a veiled message?
Could this be one of the grounds for appeal against conviction?

[droschke7]

Only one Politician I dislike more than Tony Sheridan and that is George Galloway.

[GG]

Jupiter, I'm not sure if it would constitute grounds for an appeal, but I found the phrase to be inappropriate as soon as it was tweeted. IMO judges, like other professionals, should avoid the use of metaphors which are over-theatrical, or which are likely to be subject to different interpretation.

Re-reading some early news reports on Tommy Sheridan, I found an article in The Herald from 1992, written by Anvr Khan, about her visit to meet Mr Sheridan in prison. I don't think that will happen this time!

Demons of an idealist with mission to change society
The Herald, June 23, 1992
By Anvar Khan

" ... It was a hot and sticky day when the taxi driver deposited me at Saughton Prison to see the man who's been called the enemy of the people, the local boy made good, the self-appointed martyr. The five feet five inches and 28 years of Tommy Sheridan appeared in the doorway of our dingy interview room in a grey tracksuit. One hand held a book, the other took my hand.

In honour of my appointment with [Glasgow City] Councillor Sheridan I was wearing one of my best hats. A Dior affair with a big bow on the front. It proved a good opener. "I like your hat," said Tommy, and winked at me. He settled into his seat with a chuckle, grinned, and winked at me again.

Sheridan's je ne sais quois is legendary. The tabloids have christened him charismatic, even those in political opposition such as Labour councillor Jean McFadden admit he's a "charming young man".

And so we began. ..."

Indeed.

GG.

[GG]

Fronswa, as I understand it, Mr Sheridan did not use the word "reoffending", rather, he said:

"The whole impact of the clang of the prison gates is the real punishment.

I accept custody is inevitable and I will not try to deflect your Lordship from that. I submit that the punishment is the conviction itself and the impact it will have on the rest of my life and on my family.

The very fact of custody and the tarring of my public standing is a deterrent in itself."

GG.

[Melody]

I wouldn't worry too much about Tommy Sheridan, he may have succeeded in deluding himself and his family however The Record seems to be giving us a wee taste of the real Tommy.

"LIAR Tommy Sheridan was "happy as Larry" yesterday as he started a prison sentence that could be over by Christmas.
The former Scottish Socialist leader had just been jailed for three years for lying on oath to cover up his adultery and visits to a swingers' club.
But early release policies and prison overcrowding mean prisoner number 32057 could be freed on an electronic tag in just NINE MONTHS.
Senior legal minds had predicted that Sheridan could face a sentence of five years.
And he couldn't hide his glee in the basement of the High Court in Glasgow as he prepared to board a Reliance van for the drive to Barlinnie jail.
Insiders heard Sheridan describe his sentence as a "f****** result". One said: "He looked happy as Larry."

No wonder he could keep that stupid smirk on his face as he was driven away.

[Mathieson]

"The problem is the length of the sentence is going to punish Gail and Gabrielle [his young daughter] more than me.

This is a prison sentence which is sad, and I'm not trying to make light of it, I'll probably have to cry myself to sleep several nights because I haven’t got me wee baby to cuddle the way I do every night.

In the short term, Gail and I probably will maintain 'Daddy's away at work'. How long that can be maintained I don’t know.

The thing that’s really difficult for me is Gail is going to have to deal with her, and that’s horrible, because a lot of kids will perhaps be saying to her, 'I heard your Dad's in prison' or whatever, so it's going to be dead, dead difficult, it's going to be horrible."

What a load of puke-inducing tosh. The egotistical cretin brought the whole thing on himself but typically he maintains it's somebody else's fault. Is anybody actually swallowing this garbage?

[TeeHeeHee]

Jupiter,
I think the judge's remarks on Tommy Sheridan bringing down the walls of the temple might just have been more in comparison with the biblical Samson; a man of gifted strength whose vanity led to his own downfall and who in bringing down the walls of the temple brought his own tale to an end.
As GG mentioned, these phrases are open to interpretation.

[Melody]

Listening to the radio Mathieson it would appear so I'm afraid.

THH I also understood the Judge's remarks to be biblical.

[Jupiter]

GG,THH as you may have deduced I was being a bit tic when I put on the post about the temple.It was as relevant as much of the tripe that was spouted at the trial and in the run up to the finale.
(Before anyone jumps in Im referring to the press and TV not the forum)
As for being grounds for appeal against convicton,well that is impossible as the remarks were made by the judge after Sheridan was convicted.He appears not to be appealing against sentence or applying for interim bail so no doubt by this time next week the whole thing will be old hat or as the Stones sang,"Who wants yesterdays papers?"

[weeshuggie]

Well I hope Tommy wins his Appeal and gets out. It would be a smack on the face to the NOTW and other Media who stick their noses into other people's personal life and use whatever they find out to sell newspapers and make money from it.

The NOTW are in big trouble as it is with all the Hacking into telephone calls their Reporters have been doing.

We could also let muggers and rapists out too that the NOTW publicised about, after all it's simply the same, the media publishing information on people's personal life's. It seems clear on here that it's only ok to publish certain people's information.

None of these people are in prison because of what any paper printed, rapists and muggers are in priion for raping and mugging and Sheridan is in prison for lying under oath in court. Justice was served on Sheridan and no matter how people want to portray the man, his views, his ideals, his principles, he got justice and it's repugnant that so many wanted him to get off. He is certainly no Robin Hood.

The NOTW is not in big trouble for any phone hacking, every section of the media has been doing it and no editorial will suffer unduly.

[weeshuggie]

If no one fights for the 'poor guys' then the rich guys run all over them !!!!

And, generally, its the rich guys that run the show and pull the strings - how many of them are NOT crooked? MP's and expenses, anyone? !!!!

I wish Tommy Sheridan well.

The poor guy in the Armani suit who decried every other poor guy in his team and portrayed himself as the only poor guy telling the truth while the rest of the poor guys all lied.

The poor guy you allude to became a rich guy moons ago. The same old story is wheeled out about the Poll Tax or Warrant Sales, god it's like listening to England winning the World Cup or Celtic Lisbon Rangers Barcelona.

How many are not crooked you ask.........How many were daft enough to go to court and tell lies knowing the truth would out.

MPs and expenses....the biggest crooks there seem to be the poor labour ones, are labourr now all rich!

[weeshuggie]

EDIT:
By the way. We do all know that Tommy is appealing against the conviction yeah? He said he didn't get a fair trail due to media attention.

He got the trial transferred to Glasgow in order to get a partial jury in his favour. He firmly believed playing at home would get him off. He cannot now complain media attention thwarted his fair trial. That could never stand unless the ystem was completely bent.

I was stunned the trial took place anywhere near Glasgow. He has had every advantage accorded him in this scenario and if a escape door opens then we will know for a fact that the Scottish legal system is corrupt.

Only one Politician I dislike more than Tony Sheridan and that is George Galloway.

I agree with that 100%

[nippynell]

If Tommy Sheridan is guilty he has indeed fooled a lot of people ...I can only hope that he is innocent of these charges....