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Talisman Posted 4th Jul 2016, 02:26pm
 
QUOTE (Rab @ 1st Jul 2016, 10:09pm) *
My Mammy used to call me a cheeky wee beggar. At least I think that's what she called me! laugh.gif

Had you lived in Guvin you would have been aware that it had nothing to do with "Beggar"!
Rab Posted 1st Jul 2016, 10:09pm
  My Mammy used to call me a cheeky wee beggar. At least I think that's what she called me! laugh.gif
carmella Posted 28th Jun 2016, 07:49pm
  Thank you for your reply. I do know that some beg because they feel they have no other choice, but I have also heard stories from credible sources, that there are people who don't need to beg at all because they live in nice homes and drive nice cars etc. they find their pitch and pretend to be begging, easy money and I know this to be true.
I don't wish to cast doubt on the 'real' people who need to beg, if that's what they have to do to survive then that's what they have to do.
Talisman Posted 24th Jun 2016, 09:10am
 
QUOTE (carmella @ 22nd Jun 2016, 11:23pm) *
Not everyone who begs is poor, some of those 'poor beggars' are making a fortune by pretense, then going back to their homes at the end of the day.

Very few of the beggars do it because they have no other choice. I never take what I see at face value, because there are some hellish good actors around.

I can only at this time give figures from England, although I have seen reports in extracts of Scottish newspapers, of a begging epidemic in Glasgow scaring visitors and discouraging tourism, where according to Thames Reach, a charity involved in providing shelter and rehabilitating the homeless, that 80% of all street beggars are using begging to supplement their ability to access class A drugs. They also assert that the majority of money going to beggars goes straight to the maintenance and spreading of the drug trade.

This I would say is a prime example of "negative" good. They also maintain that 60% or more of all street beggars have homes to go to at the end of the day. And as this charity is primarily geared to providing for genuine homeless and bereft, they are not happy at beggars who beg to supplement their social security payments to promote the drug trade.

I don't give out internet addresses for obvious security reasons (I.E. danger of accessing an unacknowledged site) but if you look up article pertaining to Thames Reach; drugs you will be given the facts. Mainly for England.
carmella Posted 22nd Jun 2016, 11:23pm
  Not everyone who begs is poor, some of those 'poor beggars' are making a fortune by pretense, then going back to their homes at the end of the day.

Very few of the beggars do it because they have no other choice. I never take what I see at face value, because there are some hellish good actors around.
angel Posted 22nd Jun 2016, 12:07pm
 
QUOTE (Tally Rand @ 22nd Jun 2016, 08:30am) *
I have just read an old article in the Sunday Post describing a beggar with a card scanner to take donations from credit cards and other methods of electronic funds transfers. This was also reported as taking place in London.

You have to hand it to those "beggars" preparing themselves for the "cashless society". Has this raised its' ugly head in Toronto???

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I have read about the cashless society but I don't know if there are beggars who use this system , but I'm thinking that a card scanner may help some beggars from being mugged .

I did however read about a man who tells the beggar that he only has a dollar bill and does he " i.e beggar " have change . smile.gif
Tally Rand Posted 22nd Jun 2016, 08:30am
 
QUOTE (angel @ 22nd Jun 2016, 12:01am) *
Here in Toronto , buskers must apply for a permit to busk ,
there is a Fee but I'm not sure of the cost ,
I would think that the same applies in Glasgow and probably
in other cities .also , there are some rules and regulations
regarding the use of public property to deal with . and
if those rules are not carried out by the buskers , they will be fined .

I have just read an old article in the Sunday Post describing a beggar with a card scanner to take donations from credit cards and other methods of electronic funds transfers. This was also reported as taking place in London.

You have to hand it to those "beggars" preparing themselves for the "cashless society". Has this raised its' ugly head in Toronto???
Backcauseway Posted 22nd Jun 2016, 04:06am
  Musical entertainment by street musicians. How on earth would one of these people playing that infernal violin with a horn attached ever get a buskers licence in any town! I have not seen the guy at Clydebank Shopping Centre for a while. He stood in the underpass next ASDA to help magnify the sound of what seemed like a dozen cats howling out of tune.
angel Posted 22nd Jun 2016, 12:01am
  Here in Toronto , buskers must apply for a permit to busk , there is a Fee but I'm not sure of the cost , I would think that the same applies in Glasgow and probably in other cities . Also , there are some rules and regulations regarding the use of public property to deal with . and if those rules are not carried out by the buskers , they will be fined .
wombat Posted 21st Jun 2016, 11:02pm
 
QUOTE (Tally Rand @ 21st Jun 2016, 10:14pm) *
Buskers in my locality and in the city of Melbourne must go before a panel to be recognized as genuine street entertainers. They are then given a licence to perform their act. The ones that do not meet the criterion can be seen banging 3 stringed wooden instruments and howling about going from Wichita to Kentucky rolled up in a blanket with a dog called Bobby M'ghee. I.E. Beggars.


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