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> Glasgow To Lose 670 Nurses, Expert says plans 'put patient safety at risk'
penny dainty
post 15th May 2010, 03:12am
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Some very appropriate statements there Fearn lol.

In Brisbane at the moment there is a debacale with nurses wages in the public sector. they have not been paid for several weeks now and still they come into work every day .The mess is such that the nurses dont even know how much they are owed , mortgages , bills ect are causing them no end of worry and they cant seem to get it sorted out at all.So i'm thinking there will be a shortage of nurses here in Brisbane soon too as the existing ones will be retraing for jobs that actaully pays them a wage.


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post 15th May 2010, 05:04am
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Well did the politicians not say there will be cuts,but start with scotland.you should ask them to for the same health care they get.I bet the imigrants will get good care,They should cut back on bringing them to scotland or they will cry wolf. The people who have cancer need the care,people with problems that are in bad shape.However the govt. will keep cuting all they can.The nurses care we need,times are bad we can control the political partys we choose,it is up to us
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*cheryl*
post 15th May 2010, 08:24am
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I work in the maternity in Greater Glasgow and Clyde and they've just spent thousands painting all the wards because they are having an inspection in a few weeks. Another example of how they waste money when we are in dire need of more nursing staff. surely the money can be saved elsewhere what about the amount of waste that occurs in the wards for a start. every day i watch hundreds of nappies, cotton wool plastic bags and incontinence pads all unused go straight in the bin. and the amount of food wasted is unbelievable. Full trays of food in the bin 3 times a day enough meals to feed about 20 people. All this together is surely more than i earn per week. Stop ordering hundreds of boxes of leaflets that lie in cupboards for years and no one reads them anyway. Interpreters that are coining in hundreds by the hour. Tons of unnecessary paperwork. Small measures like these could make a big difference. I'm sure there are easier ways of cutting back than paying off the staff who are already stretched to the limit at the moment one midwife looks after 14 patients and 14 babies maybe twins they could all be breast feeding that takes up loads of time there could be diabetic patients among these women that require a little extra observation. All the women need individual care and one midwife between all these women is ridiculous at the moment what will happen if they cut the number of nurses we have ???. We already work 12 hour shifts with no breaks because were so pressed you go home dead on your feet. We need more nurses not less. Why should we bail out the banks. Cut there huge bonuses they made the mess. Cut the politicians expenses they've been ripping us off for years. I think we should strike and not take this lying down it's time to stand up to these people once and for all.
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post 15th May 2010, 09:05am
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That last post by Cheryl is a real tear jerker and eye opener.I believe every word of it but sadly I think we all have to face the fact that in the very near future life is going to be less pleasant due to savage cutbacks right across the board irrespective of the rights or wrongs of them simply because the money supply into government coffers in the country has dropped dramatically due to the recession and borrowing is no longer an option.The amount of money allocated to Scotland every year from Westminster will take a big hit and the effects of this will ripple down.Already we hear of prescription and eye test charges being restored.Ive heard that senior citizens are to lose free travel concessions.VAT is a cert to rise and 20% is the likely figure.
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post 15th May 2010, 09:13am
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Ive just read headlines in the Herald where Lothian and Borders Health Board are proposing to cut 2000 jobs in the next couple of years.
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post 15th May 2010, 09:47am
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Should cosmetic surgery and IVF be on the NHS? There are certain "procedures" that are not strictly necessary. Maybe these could be cut rather than front line services. I agree on the waste. Why should the NHS pay for interpretors?
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ladihelen
post 15th May 2010, 09:57am
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Here in the sticks we have just opened a spanking new state of the art medical center which although giving staff a nice new environment will be a bugbear to most of our elderly population
Its UP the hill in front of the school and away from the village ...WHO in their wildest dreams planned that one Someone in Highland though we are Strathclyde and now everything ,results and stuff have to go through OBAN ?????? from Dunoon ???
To have a central post box for prescriptions would be NOT Health and Safety approved so all these old souls without transport have to pay for a taxi or cadge a lift Supposed to get Dental.Botox,etc Aye RIGHT !
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**ejlch**
post 15th May 2010, 01:05pm
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Somebody posted:

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"wasn't this fairly obvious as soon as Camerons mob got in? They only have one seat in Scotland and now they are going to make us pay for it"

I think the NHS and the state of the UK economy in general is too serious for making party-political points.

One could just as easily (and more accurately) say "Isn't it obvious that the Blair Brown Government made a horrendous mess of the public finances and got out just in time as the consequences of their ineptness are coming home.

No sensible person can blame a new government of a few days for consequences that have built up during the previous government's 13 years. And under the voting system it matters nothing that the Tories have only one seat in Scotland, after an election for the British parliament, not the Scottish parliament (as the Labour and Liberal Parties, as well as the Tories, kept lecturing the SNP).

But as I say, this issue is too serious for petty party points - none of the politicians were honest with us in the run up to the election - the government was especially dishonest because it 'knew the books' and therefore knew what was about to happen.

It is down the ordinary tax payer voter to be realistic and mature and start judging all politicians on what they do - not what they say. After all in the past 10m years it is a fact that inequality sharply grew sharply across the UK despite a government that was supposed to be all about equality.
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post 15th May 2010, 05:06pm
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hi everone my name is catriona cameron [ i get called ona so you all can use this if you like ] I am appolled at the cut back of nurses as they are somtimes better than doctors by my own exspearinice. godbless all the nurses and doctors everywhere please rethink what you are doing you are playing with peoples lives why not stop the bank mangers getting big bounces and plough lat into saving our nureses goodluck to all its time to st and up and be counted amen.

lots of love ona wub.gif
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post 15th May 2010, 07:18pm
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What better way to ensure privatisation of the NHS than to adminster severe cuts year after year, demoralising staff and patients alike, so that complaint levels soar? Make the NHS look bad and privatisation will look like a good alternative to some.


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post 16th May 2010, 02:26am
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I am sorry to hear about the governments plans to cut back on nurses. I trained as a nurse in Britain 30 years ago, and it was the best training ever. I have resided in the USA for the past 28 years and always brag about British nurses being the best in the world, especialy when it comes to compassion and genuine caring. I remember after I graduated, I worked nights on a surgical floor in charge of 30 patients and had the assistance of one auxillary nurse. I used to run my butt off and would be so tired in the morning. That was back when the NHS first started to have financial problems and there were all these nurses graduating with no jobs available. My sister just graduated as a registered nurse in England, and God bless her she is 53 years old, but has wanted to be a nurse her whole life and is aware of the NHS shortages and wants to work within the NHS system. Years ago in Britain you could be the smartest person in the class, but if the tutors did not think you had what it took to be a nurse you were kicked out of the program. It is not surprising that less young people are going into the profession, more and more nurses are expected to work short staffed, for low wages and do work that some people would absolutely baulk at...all with a smile on your face, and God forbid if you make a mistake, it could cost someone their life and you a huge lawsuit. My sister told me that a lot of British nurses are leaving the country to come to the States. God help us over here when that idiot Obama takes over our health care........
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*lewis*
post 16th May 2010, 11:11am
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NOTHING UPSETS THE PEOPLE MORE THAN AN ATTACK ON NHS. ME FOR ONE. I SEE MR SALMOND SAYING ITS NO ME, ITS THAT CROWD IN LONDON THAT IS MAKING ME DO THIS.
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post 16th May 2010, 02:46pm
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As the father of a nurse and a very regular user of the health service,three treatment appointments and two clinic appointments between 10th and 14th May alone in the Royal Infirmary = G.R.I. and a Diabetic who has to travel to Stobhill ( see previous post ) I am scunnered by this latest move. At the moment when my daughter is on night shift she, a staff nurse, is very often on with an auxilliary nurse with a ward of 30 + patients with no other help except a doctor on call. I know from my own experience that while the staff, both medical and ancillary, are,for the most part, excellant at what they do how on earth are they going to cope with an ever increasing demand and substantially fewer staff ? When they closed the diabetic clinic in the G.R.I. I was told that they were going to pull down the building and build an office block in its place. Imagine my surprise then when a few weeks ago I tried to access the ground floor clinic area of the G.R.I. from the car park to find that the access not only had been closed but the doorway bricked up forcing me, a registered disabled person, to walk a considerable distance in some pain and a lot of discomfort, to the main entrance and then double back to the clinic I was attending, making me in the process,late for my appointment!. In the meantime the plastic surgery unit that was at the entrance near the car park had been moved. Guess where? The clinic area previously occupied by the diabetic clinic! The policy making for the Hospitals in the care of the G.G.& C.H.B. is in the hands of accountants and any health professionals involved seem to have lost their raison d'etre. I would suggest that the Doctors in particular on the Health Board and all others as a matter of understanding their principle duty of care, go to the main entrance of the G.R.I. in Alexandra Parade where they will see a large mural on which is a copy of the Hypocratic Oath. Hopefully this will remind them, not only of their first care as physicians but the guiding principles of our society which puts the care of the sick, children and elderly before all else. Or am I as a Christian out of touch with reality and the needs of 21st Century society? I think and hope not. Humanists and athiests to say nothing of all other major Faiths are in agreement with this fundamental principle of Christian teaching. If financial constraints are truly necessary then all juncketing and " fact finding" tours should be stopped. Most information is now available, as we all know. on the information highway and therefore negates the need for "fact finding" trips to far flung corners of the Earth and the vast expenditure such excesses bring in their wake. An exception for medical/surgical personnel and clinical researchers has to be made where it has to be a hands on excercise. Otherwise do it in your own office during working hours and on your publicly paid for computers. I appreciate that even this would not satisfy the bean counters but that horrible word - prioritize - should not be enforced at the expense of those less fortunate in health and wealth. mad.gif sad.gif
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post 16th May 2010, 02:47pm
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Why target nursing and midwifery staff when more savings could be made by reducing more expensive bureaucratic posts. If skilled nursing staff are got rid of. The Health Service will fall apart. In short, people may die. You cannot replace experienced staff and hope they will return overnight in the case of a new epidemic for example. Nurses need to evidence their continued learning and work experience to maintain their registration.

I have never heard of such a short-sighted plan. I'm just glad I got out of the Health Service when I did.
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post 16th May 2010, 06:39pm
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The SNP government has said today that there will be "no compulsory redundancies" among NHS staff during the upcoming programme of cuts. Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon also claimed that providing a high standard of frontline care was a "guiding principle" for the Holyrood government.

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Guarantee of no compulsory redundancies for NHS

Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon has offered a guarantee that no NHS employee will face compulsory redundancy amid pressure on budgets.

Last week NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde announced proposals to shed 1,252 jobs in the next 18 months.

Opposition politicians claimed plans by health boards to axe jobs will hit frontline services.

Ms Sturgeon said she was scrutinising workforce projections, with quality of frontline care the "guiding principle". ...

Full story at the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8685564.stm

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