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> Should Council Evict Occupy Glasgow?, Legal stand-off in George Square
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 11:56am
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I too must admit that I feel I have little in common with these protesters and can't for a second imagine that I have anything in common with them. However that's exactly how I feel when I see a greedy banker or pompous politician come on the telly. I think we need some kind of middle ground here.
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 12:05pm
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Being a Virginian and a Capalist, I detest the Banks and their bail outs, however, as a capitalist I grew up poor in Orgeon Hill of Richmond, though we didn't know we were poor.

Grew up and our form of life afforded me the opportunity by working hard, without government social programs (Democrats), to make a damn good living.

These protesters need to be removed, they are the suckers of society.

Why else is there an influx STILL of immigrants, legal and illegal, because of CAPITALISM and life's dream afforded all here.
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 12:30pm
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Although I agree that something needs to be done to stop banks & big business doing what they like, i am not sure the protests clinging on to George square will do any good. in fact they may be tempting fate... as many other demos started in good faith only to be hijacked by people with other agendas... and next thing you know the whole event has got out of control.

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post 2nd Nov 2011, 01:12pm
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QUOTE (Jupiter @ 2nd Nov 2011, 10:28am) *
... Melody if it does come to a forceful removal ... would it not be better if it did happen at a time when it did not paralyse the city centre and stop lawful citizens going about their business?

OK Joop, you did explain to us that you were jokin' about the Tasers and the Army gettin' sent in. Now tell us that you're jokin' again.
The protestors are not there to paralyse the City Centre but to make the point that the City needs paralysing before the banks are faced with "GAME OVER" and the tax-payer has to re-boot the City so it can start all over again
There are a lot of good replies here about a generation or three whose lives were the down-payment for the freedom to protest; at tax-payers being ripped off by the financial districts around the world for example, and these young protestors are making use of that freedom and the Cenotaph; in honour of the brave young men who died for our freedoms, is the most honourable place for the protest to take place.
Worrying about Remembrance Sunday or how your Christmas might be effected by the protestors makin' it difficult to put the lights up, is doing no honour to the men who fell.
Take the protestors cups of coffee and support them. They're doing what you should be doing .... if you were younger. rolleyes.gif


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post 2nd Nov 2011, 01:16pm
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I agree with the protesters and what they want to achieve, but I think they should recognise the value of the Square at this point in time, remembrance services will be held with all the sobriety that the occasion demands, if it wasn't for those absent souls demonstrators lives might be totally different today,
the Christmas scene comes soon after and many kiddies are brought forward to wonder at the spectacle the square presents, although I don't fully agree with the carnival in the square it is still a children's wonderland and perhaps an introduction to Christian belief
I would say don't take it away from the kiddies they are only young once, also as I have just noticed a forecast for a Siberian chill to hit the country the protesters should consider bowing out gracefully, to return in milder times I am sure such a considerate action of goodwill might attract a bit more support in the future
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 01:57pm
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The protesters have excercised their rights and good luck to them but thats it.They have made their point that the world needs to change although Ive not heard any of them put forward how that can be done.
I like a punt and I would put good money down that the protesters could sit there in their wigwams for the next ten years and there still will be no discernable change in how things work.
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 02:17pm
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QUOTE (Jupiter @ 2nd Nov 2011, 08:42am) *
ie mounted police,water canon,taser guns and the army on standby should they be required. rolleyes.gif

Aye, aye. Now't like the softly softly in wi the boot approach to win over a disgrunted faction. tongue.gif

"We come in peace, phasers to STUN and shoot to kill men!"

I feel as long as the protesters do not disrespect Armistace Day they should stay until something tangible is implemented to curb the excesses of pig swilling capitalist bankers. Not yer wee lassie on the till sort, the bloated bowler hatted pinstripe suited brigade. As fur Xmas, that's cancelled there's a recession on ye know.

It will be a bad day when the right to peaceful protest goes out the windea, give this lame excuse of a government half a chance an they would sell us doon the river with that too. There is way too much public apathy, that's how these modern age Dick Turpins and their cutpurse cohorts get away with blue murder while joe public receives a royal reaming of biblical proportions.

Come the revolution, oot wi yer tactical array and let em have it folks.


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post 2nd Nov 2011, 02:22pm
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QUOTE (*duinemor* @ 2nd Nov 2011, 08:30am) *
The protesters should stay. A bit of imagination surely for Remembrance Day - have it in Cathedral Square or Glasgow Green this year for a wee change. It's not rocket sceince.

You're forgetting about the location of the Cenotaph, so it's a bit more complicated than you would have us believe.
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 05:01pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 2nd Nov 2011, 01:48pm) *
You're forgetting about the location of the Cenotaph, so it's a bit more complicated than you would have us believe.

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There are a lot of good replies here about a generation or three whose lives were the down-payment for the freedom to protest (at tax-payers being ripped off by the financial districts around the world for example) and these young protestors are making use of that freedom and the Cenotaph; in honour of the brave young men who died for our freedoms, is the most honourable place for the protest to take place.

I think I covered that point.


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post 2nd Nov 2011, 05:19pm
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Some great replies to this and I have enjoyed reading them!!

One thing that I think is important is what someone said (sorry dont recall who) is that in days gone past you would have expected the Labour councillors to be manning the barricades with the protestors rather than lurking around courts trying to get them thrown out of a public space. And where else should the protestors be?? Freezing in Buchanan Street??

I got the joke that Jupiter made smile.gif But when you think that it took aboot 100 polis to throw a East End granny out of her own home.... maybe its closer to the truth than we think. Time will tell....
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 05:26pm
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I am of two minds here...however, I did vote no to removing the Protesters.

We here in Canada,and almost in my own backyard have these same protesters. Like some of you, I wonder who these mostly young folks are.

Are the majority street people, with no work,no ambition, and no idea other than to join the gang. My fault, not knowing. I could quite easily just go to them,ask a few questions to satisfy my curiosity. Instead I follow their replies to inquiries made by newspaper, and T.V. reporters I have come to the conclusion their grievances are what the majority of us complain about daily. Banks, politicians, big business, overpaid CEOs, the gap between the rich and the poor. Like us, it seems, well by their quotes as I listen to them, they have no solutions, just mostly jargon, which I for one at times cannot decipher.

So where does it all end, and most importantly...how will it all end.

Unless a few professional thugs decide to infiltrate the group in St.George Square on Remembrance day, common sense would dictate that if this group of protesters wish to keep the support of John Q. public they will be respectful of our War Veterans,who died on Flanders field so that we, the Citizens of the World could be free to express in a peaceful manner, our democratic beliefs.

I do believe that these demonstrations are just the tip of the iceberg. People world wide are seeking justice. It is in our face daily on The Idiot Box.

APART FROM TELLING THESE PROTESTERS TO.."GO FIND A JOB"... OF WHICH I MYSELF ARE GUILTY AT TIMES.... DO YOU HAVE ANY VALID SOLUTIONS??? I KNOW I DON'T.
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 05:34pm
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Absolutely not. people protesting is the only way that the majority of people can make their voice heard. Glasgow Council have a cheek to call themselves socialists, so much for them being "the party of the people"
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 07:01pm
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Paperboy i might have moved to Canada and i might be a citizen but i did my time in the army before i came to Canada , did you do any time in the army?
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 09:09pm
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We VETERANS fight for our country and civil rights, and a lot of good men and women gave there life for this freedom. As far as bankers and wall street go's look into the bildabirgers (bankers) that have taken over the banks world wide (wall street) these people want to take over the world (money madness) if you don't believe it check it out. i have!

If you look at many financial institutions you can read a list of bankers who did also give the ultimate sacrifice in war. Those people fought for their country too and are not here to condemn your post.
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post 2nd Nov 2011, 09:35pm
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The police are a non political,non vested interest organisation ...

Says Joop

Gies a brek, pal laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Anybody resigned at the Met recently???


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