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> Scotland Gets 50p-per-unit Alcohol Price, Minimum unit pricing of alcohol from next year
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post 14th May 2012, 09:02pm
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Health levvy, lmao. How about working with the supermarkets to promote a healthy lifestyle and lower prices on fruit and veg.Taxing them more and more will just make them weary of opening stores and creating jobs. Profit is not a dirty word!


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post 14th May 2012, 10:12pm
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I think this is fantastic news. Why should I, as a tax payer, plough a fortune into the treatment of those who choose to abuse alcohol? Or why should I be afraid to walk down a city centre street of an evening because of tanked-up neds who are out of their minds on cheap swally?

Fair point. Although, I can't see either of those scenereos slowing down anytime soon.
It's a well known fact that no matter how tough things get, the street jerkoffs always find a way to fill the tank and then get nasty.
What's that tired old saying? I think it goes something like, "By hook or by crook".

As long as they don't bring in prohibition I think I can just about make it.
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post 14th May 2012, 10:24pm
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Well the old ladies who want a game of bridge or a chat with a bottle of wine are to be penalised No promotions for Joe Soap or anybody else -----and yet in the house of commons with its seven bars you get a glass of wine and the barman then asks you if you would like a TOP UP ---well theres a thing ive never had that in a club or pub And seven pubs at your work ---no wonder fights break out
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post 14th May 2012, 10:52pm
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... Minimum pricing has been promoted by health campaigners, while the SNP government claims that alcohol abuse is a "brake on Scotland's social and economic growth". ...

Quoting myself ... what's the world coming to!?!

Anyway, has anyone been able to work out how those who purchase copious amounts of cheap vodka, lager or cider – i.e. the only ones whom the new pricing policy will affect, according to the pundits on the telly – are somehow curtailing the "economic growth" of Scotland?

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post 14th May 2012, 11:05pm
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I just checked ... and I think the minimum pricing policy is actually going to have a bigger impact than has been told in the media. Here's how:

Last week I bought 12 bottles of Miller lager for £7 from the local supermarket – don't worry, most are still in the box. Quick division shows that the price of each bottle worked out at 59p. When I looked on the bottle I found that each one has an alcohol unit value of 1.6; this means that, under the new minimum pricing, a bottle will not sell below 80p. Therefore, that £7 will need to rise to almost £10 to keep to the new pricing policy! sad.gif

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post 14th May 2012, 11:21pm
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Thats what you get for drinking p**h beer laugh.gif cool.gif


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post 14th May 2012, 11:32pm
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Nan you cant be serious.
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Many Moons ago when I was Young. I never saw Teenagers legless on the streets of Glasgow.

Probably because it was not so obtainable .
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post 14th May 2012, 11:41pm
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yes.gif yie wurny lookin very hard,aw us teenagers used tae get scrumpy cider oot the backdoor of a certain pub in a used beer bottle furra tanner 1960s thumbup.gif


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QUOTE (GG @ 14th May 2012, 11:50pm) *
Quoting myself ... what's the world coming to!?!

Anyway, has anyone been able to work out how those who purchase copious amounts of cheap vodka, lager or cider – i.e. the only ones whom the new pricing policy will affect, according to the pundits on the telly – are somehow curtailing the "economic growth" of Scotland?

GG.

Quoting yourself GG? Have you been on the Sauce? LOL
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post 15th May 2012, 07:37am
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I just checked ... and I think the minimum pricing policy is actually going to have a bigger impact than has been told in the media. Here's how:

Last week I bought 12 bottles of Miller lager for £7 from the local supermarket – don't worry, most are still in the box. Quick division shows that the price of each bottle worked out at 59p. When I looked on the bottle I found that each one has an alcohol unit value of 1.6; this means that, under the new minimum pricing, a bottle will not sell below 80p. Therefore, that £7 will need to rise to almost £10 to keep to the new pricing policy! sad.gif

GG.

Can you please tell us the name and address of the supermarket as this seems an astonishingly good deal. You're not buying any of this stuff ex back of a van from Calais are you?

I bought 12 cans of Heineken last week from Sainsbury for £8 and I thought I got a really good deal.

Each can 330 ml @ 5% ABV. The calculation to get units is quite simple - Quantity in ml X ABV /1000.

So in my case each can of the green nectar was 330 X 5 /1000 = 1.65 units. 12 cans in the box so 12 X 1,65 = 19.8 units, At 50p a unit the minimum price would be £9.90 but at 45p it would be £8.91.

I gave duff information recently about the cost of Frosty Jacks white cider - I saw it on offer for only £2.59 for 3 litres (I thought is was £3.15). Your 12 cans of Miller has a total of 19.2 units for your £7 - whereas you get a whopping 22.5 units of alcohol from Frosty Jack for only £2.59 - some deal, eh?

Anyway, dare I say it - its not very patriotic of you to be drinking Miller - surely Tennents would be more appropriate. And at 4% ABV you'd be fine at 50p a unit provided as long as you don't pay over the odds (£3.52 for 4 cans of 440ml).

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post 15th May 2012, 07:47am
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Hi Ian,

Info about the deal is here ... apparently it wasn't available outside Scotland!

There's a good article in the Herald today (I'll read later), but looks like it is about the knock-on effect of differential pricing strategies, which are pursued by companies to use price to send messages about their product to consumers. Basically, if cheap drink goes up in price, then 'better' brands will be forced "strategically" to raise their prices.

Stephen Doyle, a Glasgow academic, said:
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"There will be a shift in price but it won't be reactive. It will have to be strategic. It's a dilemma because, on one hand, manufacturers have the opportunity to increase their market share with customers migrating upwards.

But, at the same time, these brands need to be clear about why they are better and their product is distinctive.

When prices go up at the bottom they also increase further up."

So, looks like prices will rise for alcohol right across the board.

Warning on hidden impact of new alcohol pricing law
http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/polit...ng-law.17547553

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post 15th May 2012, 07:50am
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So drinking Heineken is more patriotic than drinking Miller ???? Mind you, anything is preferable to Tennent's "lager". The only thing that Embra does better than Glesca is make beer.


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post 15th May 2012, 09:04am
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So drinking Heineken is more patriotic than drinking Miller ???? Mind you, anything is preferable to Tennent's "lager". The only thing that Embra does better than Glesca is make beer.

When in Rome (or Glasgow).

But in your case it'll be probably Estrella or a pint of Ribero del Duero!

All the best

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post 15th May 2012, 09:10am
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Hi Ian,

Info about the deal is here ... apparently it wasn't available outside Scotland!

You are to be commended for ferretting out such an exceptional deal and only available in Scotland. About as rare as hens teeth. Well done.

I think it is limited to only six cases per customer (115.2 units).

Best regards

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