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DannyH Posted Today, 04:31pm
 
QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 29th Nov 2020, 03:06pm) *
No need to wonder why, Danny.

British servicemen serving behind the Iron Curtain?

German civilians murdering British servicemen?

Scoffing ay Danny?

One scoff coming right up :rolleyes:


Tomi, I don’t want to spoil our friendly exchanges, so I will have to ask you to clarify your use of question marks. It will be better for me to wait for your response before saying other than, I was in West Berlin during 1953 and 1954, serving with the Royal Engineers.

It is over to you.

Regards

Danny
TeeHeeHee Posted Today, 03:06pm
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 19th Nov 2020, 08:44pm) *
... This was at the height of the Cold War. I served behind the Iron Curtain most of my time in the Army.

Many young servicemen who were children during WW2 lost their lives during their Service time. Including, young men who were murdered by German civilians, while on Guard duty in Western Germany ...

... I know some of you will be scoffing at me ...

QUOTE
... I know some of you will be scoffing at me ...


No need to wonder why, Danny.

British servicemen serving behind the Iron Curtain?

German civilians murdering British servicemen?

Scoffing ay Danny?

One scoff coming right up rolleyes.gif
JAGZ1876 Posted Today, 12:36pm
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 28th Nov 2020, 07:25pm) *
Jagz, how about growing up for goodness sake. It is only because of this enforced isolation that I am responding to your post.

So you have now taken it upon yourself to speak on behalf of other EU citizens. You have a big opinion of yourself.

You mention Italy. Another country in a financial mess.

You will go down in history as the great philosopher from Beith.


Jagz, you just won’t accept that Nicola’s minority government are trying to deal with three issues at the same time. 1. Coronavirus. 2. Scotland’s Independence. 3. Brexit.

In practice, you can’t do that. Sorry.


I've to grow up now have i? So much for having a reasonable debate, in there with an insult straight from the off.

No i'm not speaking on behalf of other EU citizens, i don't have a big opinion of myself, you on the other hand do, as your rebuke to Tomi clearly shows that you alone speak for the people of Scotland when you wrote, "I do not mean this in any offensive way Tomi, but I live in Scotland. I am a big enough boy to know if I think the time is right to even talk about the issue of another referendum".

You can add the UK to the list of countries in a, financial mess".

That would be 'of Beith' not "from Beith".

You're right Danny, we can't do all three, we'll scrap Brexit then.
JAGZ1876 Posted Today, 12:22pm
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 28th Nov 2020, 06:20pm) *
Jagz, neither you nor I can forecast the future. What is the point of having a forum, if I can’t express my opinions? You don’t welcome debate. It is either accept your opinion, or get lost.

Jagz, see your claim that “they have all joined freely without any fear of conquest”, it makes me wonder if you read my posts.

“A proper union of proper states”, you say. I can only put that down to your naivety.



I know we can't Danny, that was my whole point when you said no one could tell you what open borders would do to the country in the future, and of course i welcome debate, and why do you have to be so insulting to me?


I do read your posts Danny, that was why i replied to you when you said

"So Jagz, I don’t hate the EU. I just don’t want Scotland to be subjugated by an organisation which demands open borders".

If you think i'm naive then perhaps you can tell me what you think a, “proper union of proper states”, is then?
DannyH Posted Y'day, 09:06pm
 
QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 28th Nov 2020, 01:24pm) *
Yes, Danny, the issue was swttled and it was 55%/45% for staying in the union of The Crown as it was called back its day.
However something changed and that was with the other Union, namely The European Union where Scotland voted by 68%/32% to remain in that union only to be dragged out screaming by wishes of the greater majority of England.
So being part of one union was detrimental to being part of a greater union.
Of course Brexit was backed (vocally) by Bojo's big mate in the good ol' Ameruican union of the states but he's history now.
The people of Scotland have the right, now that the lies and subterfuge of self-serving polititians has settled, to properly decide their future and that of generations to follow, now that the smoke of deception had cleared and the Westminster Mob are seen off for their meddling tactics and deceit.

Nemo me impune lacessit

Wha daur meddle wi' me?

Hi Tomi

It is refreshing to get a post on this topic, which expresses your point of view without being confrontational.

Yes Scotland voted 68% to 32% during that referendum. However, Scotland wasn’t the issue. It was a vote for or against the UK staying in the EU.

I will repeat what I have already said to Jagz. I know people who voted for the UK to stay in the EU, but voted against Independence. They are two separate Issues.

You possibly have read a previous post of mine which referred to the basic order in which issues are dealt with in politics.

1 The Issue
2 The Background
3 The Line to Take.

So if you try to deal with say, three issues at the one time, it is highly unlikely that one, ‘The Line To Take’ will come up with a proposed line of action which will address the three different issues.

That in my humble opinion is the mistake the SNP is making.

Getting back to the EU, or Brexit referendum, what is being ignored, or forgotten, is the Tory Government of the day, wanted the UK to stay in the EU. They thought it was a no brainier. It was the working class of the North of England who pulled the rug from under the Tories. It is just unfortunate that we have this numpty Boris at the helm.

Sorry, I don’t agree with you that the EU is a better union. I would prefer we formed an economic union with the Commonwealth countries. They put the meals on our tables during WW2 at great human cost and suffering.

I do not mean this in any offensive way Tomi, but I live in Scotland. I am a big enough boy to know if I think the time is right to even talk about the issue of another referendum, when there are multiple deaths occurring as we sit here corresponding. If you are getting the impression that the majority of people in Scotland are focused on the issue of Independence, then Tomi my friend you are reading or hearing fake news. Trust me.

Thank you for your courteous response to my post.

Regards

Danny.

PS there may be a few typing errors in the above post. I have opted out of editing them because I had to write my long response to Jagz, twice. I must have done something wrong in the edit function.
wombat Posted Y'day, 07:40pm
 
QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 28th Nov 2020, 07:44pm) *
Of course Danny Boy is not a xenophobe! How could anyone suggest such a thing ? He only hates anybody for whom English is not a first language. Fair does !


tongue.gif then hes gonny love this?
DannyH Posted Y'day, 07:25pm
 
QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 28th Nov 2020, 06:39pm) *
Tell the French, Germans, Spanish, Italians etc etc that their countries are not independent, they'd laugh in your face Danny.

You want to make this thread into another anti EU thread (or any foreigners) and as i have said, independence first then we can tackle the other issues.

Last word on the EU in answer to your question, a vote for Scotland to regain it's independence is not a vote to apply to join the EU as far as my vote counts, but like i have said, independence first then we can decide other issues, you'll be asking me what colour a second class postage stamp will be next.

As for any political party thinking of independence during this pandemic then tell that to, Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg and the rest of the Tory party separatists.

What enemy and what enemy territory are you talking about, are you reliving WW2 again Danny?



Jagz, how about growing up for goodness sake. It is only because of this enforced isolation that I am responding to your post.

So you have now taken it upon yourself to speak on behalf of other EU citizens. You have a big opinion of yourself. You mention Italy. Another country in a financial mess. A country like Greece, taking the brunt of the mass invasion of refugees from the Middle East. Many of whom are coming here via the English Channel. According to you all the citizens of the EU countries are happy to be in it?

You will go down in history as the great philosopher from Beith.

I have a number of friends, here in Scotland, who are Polish. We celebrated or 60th wedding Anniversary, at our favourite restaurant/ dance venue. The owners are a Greek husband and a Polish wife. We have been going there for the seven following years, at least once a month. You have a twisted mind. The man who does our garden and house maintenance work is Polish.

Regarding your comments regarding a second hand postage stamp, I don’t follow what you are getting at. It is the SNP you should address that question to. It is they who have lumped three separate issues together. Not me.

Your comments about any political party thinking of Independence during this pandemic, then tell that to Tory politicians named by you is hilarious. Nicola was on TV about an hour ago, talking about the issue of Scotland’s Independence!

Jagz, you just won’t accept that Nicola’s minority government are trying to deal with three issues at the same time. 1. Coronavirus. 2. Scotland’s Independence. 3. Brexit.

In practice, you can’t do that. Sorry.
bilbo.s Posted Y'day, 06:44pm
  Of course Danny Boy is not a xenophobe! How could anyone suggest such a thing ? He only hates anybody for whom English is not a first language. Fair does !









JAGZ1876 Posted Y'day, 06:39pm
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 28th Nov 2020, 12:34pm) *
If a country is a member of the EU it CANNOT be an independent country, if for no other reason, it has no control over its borders.

So your claim I am a British Nat is, because you are blinkered. Looking back through your posts, all you have done is call people like me, Brit Nats, and Tories.

Here is a another question. Is a vote for Independence a vote for Scotland to apply for EU membership?

Any political party that can even think of Independence at this present time, don’t seem to have grasped, that we are in a War against an invisible enemy.

Speaking of enemies, I guess you won’t take the Oxford vaccine because it is manufactured in enemy territory.


Tell the French, Germans, Spanish, Italians etc etc that their countries are not independent, they'd laugh in your face Danny.

You want to make this thread into another anti EU thread (or any foreigners) and as i have said, independence first then we can tackle the other issues.

Last word on the EU in answer to your question, a vote for Scotland to regain it's independence is not a vote to apply to join the EU as far as my vote counts, but like i have said, independence first then we can decide other issues, you'll be asking me what colour a second class postage stamp will be next.

As for any political party thinking of independence during this pandemic then tell that to, Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg and the rest of the Tory party separatists.

What enemy and what enemy territory are you talking about, are you reliving WW2 again Danny?
DannyH Posted Y'day, 06:20pm
 
QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 20th Nov 2020, 12:07pm) *
First of all Danny, no EU country has ever been "subjugated" by the EU, they have all joined freely without any fear of conquest, it is a proper union of equal states, unlike the sham of a union you want us to remain with in which Scotland was "subjugated" by England.

And neither can you tell what the future holds Danny.

Jagz, neither you nor I can forecast the future. What is the point of having a forum, if I can’t express my opinions? You don’t welcome debate. It is either accept your opinion, or get lost.

Jagz, see your claim that “they have all joined freely without any fear of conquest”, it makes me wonder if you read my posts. I have already stated that the Eastern European countries were allowed to join the EU, because they are a buffer between Western European countries and Russia!!! These Eastern European countries are a financial liability which British taxpayers have to support financially.

I bet that makes you laugh. Well you and Western European’s, will have the smiles wiped from your faces if countries like the USA, Canada, and the UK pull their troops out of Western Europe. There are over I million USA military personnel stationed in EU countries. The USA has the largest armed force in Europe. The politicians of these EU countries will be wiping the sweat from their brows now that Trump’s threat of pulling out these American forces, will not be enforced by Biden. That doesn’t mean Biden won’t expect something in return. He will have to placate the large number of Trump supporters on issues like this.

And guess what. If the USA, Canada and the UK did pull out their troops, Germany which currently has the third largest armed forces numbers in Europe, will have the largest army. Logic and history tell me that the Germans will increase their armed forces numbers. They will achieve what they couldn’t do in Two World Wars. Domination. Watch for Russia reaction to that.

All those millions of human lives lost, for what’s?

“A proper union of proper states”, you say. I can only put that down to your naivety.
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