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Well I'm sure they can still find money for their cigs,booze,drugs and gambling so saying they need to steal to feed themselves or familiesl is rubbish.So I have no sympathy at all for them when they get caught and trouble is they usually get slap on wrist which means they go out and do it again
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QUOTE (amclpreston @ 30th Sep 2011, 11:35am)
The poll...
If someone is stealing to feed their kids, I have no problem with that.
Tesco make squillions in profit, their workers are hardly paid a kings ransom, and the shareholder are rewarded handsomely.
I noticed on the poll, that 2/3rds said that stealing food to feed your children is unacceptable. Perhaps they are ones still with jobs, and they are .... all right Jack.
I voted stealing for any reason is unacceptable, i have had several periods of unemployment over the last 40 years, but never once would i have resorted to stealing. The benefit (Buroo) money that we got went straight to buying food for our children, making sure we stocked the cupboards with cheap tins, biscuits, crisps, etc, going to Freezeway to fill the freezer with cheap sausages, bacon and other cheap meat (not the healthiest of foods i'll admit, but my children were never hungry) that kept us going till the next Giro came and till i eventually got back to work. During that time my wife and i made the decision to do without cigarettes (as we both smoked at the time, if we could afford a packet between us we did) but the childrens welfare always came first. There is no excuse for kids to go hungry in this day and age, its just a case of parents getting their priorities right, and for the hand wringers to stop telling them it's okay to steal, what next, it's okay to break into someone's house to feed the kid's, or it's okay to mug an old lady on the street to feed the kids. Stealing is wrong, no excuses.
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QUOTE (amclpreston @ 30th Sep 2011, 12:35pm)
The poll...
If someone is stealing to feed their kids, I have no problem with that.
Tesco make squillions in profit, their workers are hardly paid a kings ransom, and the shareholder are rewarded handsomely.
I noticed on the poll, that 2/3rds said that stealing food to feed your children is unacceptable. Perhaps they are ones still with jobs, and they are .... all right Jack.
I am no longer able to work and therefore don't have a job am not one of the "I'm all right Jack" theft is still theft
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There is no excuse for kids to go hungry in this day and age
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Your so right sir. But they do. They shouldn't get neglected - but they are. They shouldn't be abused.
In this 'day and age' however - IMAGE is all important. People strive to BE 'somebody' - have to own the 55 inch screen TV - the latest wii - and suddenly they find the cupboard's BARE! Not forgetting, they 'have to' own their own home! (At some phenominal price)
Our society is all upside down these days. Basic values such as 'thou shalt not steal' seem too easy to do without. (Especially as its mostly considered a midemeanor (eg shoplifting I mean)
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QUOTE (Jupiter @ 30th Sep 2011, 11:56am)
There is one big drawback when stealing from a shop such as Tesco or any other supermarket.You are liable to get caught,arrested and taken to court.So what happens to the kids when their mum is taken away by the Police.Ill tell you.If a relative cannot be found quickly the social work dept become involved and they take the kids.Now is that worth all the hassle? Forget the profits and shareholders.Supermarkets are businesses there to provide a service and make a profit and if a person takes their property they normally take proceedings as far as they can whether its a £2 pack of bacon or a £30 bottle of whisky.
There is rather little indication in what you say..... of any recognition of what people will do out of desperation. Perhaps you are indeed..... all right Jack.
Since when was Byres Road posh? It was always a nest of reasonably cheap rooms and flats to rent. A good place to stay but it has its share of bums and stiffs and down and outs.
Meanwhile the Fruit Market, sorry Merchant City, is a strange mixture of renewal and mainly old unappealing buildings and streets. Tourist accomodation flats, but certainly not overall pretty or upmarket.
Meanwhile there is no excuse for stealing, especially getting caught !
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Have you never heard the saying don't judge others until you have walked a mile in their shoes.This is a very sad state of affairs . I have never stolen a single thing in my life, however I have never been in a situation where my children were hungry.So I am not going to judge. Yes we all know it"s wrong but ask yourself what would you do if you had starving children.I would do anything for my children as I am sure most on here would be the same. I know like myself some of us will question the system where folks can buy booze and cigs, go to bingo, but have nothing left for food. Perhaps its time to give stamps for food and deduct this amount from the security cheques many receive. This way the family is going to get fed before the parents take off with the money using it on all the wrong things.
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amclpreston,I spent a big part of my working life locking up shoplifters;bacon for some reason was always a favourite and I can say that I never once heard a thief put up the excuse that it was to feed the kids. I do not believe there is any circumstances where a child should go hungry.Every child is entitled to state benefit and if they are then going hungry the parents are spending the family allowance on something other than what was intended.
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I can't think of any reason to steal, maybe that's because I have never been hungry enough with no food in the house.
When I buy flowers in Morrisons I hang them on the back of the trolley. A few months ago as I was putting the shopping into a taxi I realised the flowers were still on the back of the trolley. I had walked right out the shop without paying for them. I ran back into the shop to the first check out practically throwing the money for the flowers at the woman on the till. I told the woman what had happened, she just laughed, and there was me in a panic incase I got arrested for stealing.
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Heather you were totally innocent,absolutely no guilty intent.Reminds me of an occasion when a young mum had put a packet of disposable nappies in the basket under her pushchair.She paid for her shopping but was stopped by a security guard who wouldnt listen to her and called the police.Female told me that it had been an oversight and that she had no intention of stealing.It was obvious this was the case.I had a word with the security guard but would have been better talking to the wall.
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QUOTE (Isobel @ 30th Sep 2011, 04:03pm)
... I know like myself some of us will question the system where folks can buy booze and cigs, go to bingo, but have nothing left for food. Perhaps its time to give stamps for food and deduct this amount from the security cheques many receive. This way the family is going to get fed before the parents take off with the money using it on all the wrong things.
Isobel , sounds like a plan but they would probably sell those food coupons for half the value. and I think that system of social welfare is used in the States .
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