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> Labour Routed In Glasgow, Every Labour MP in city loses their seat
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post 11th May 2015, 10:54am
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The Queen of Scots will be quirming with embarrassment when some of these newly elected Mps open their mouth...


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post 11th May 2015, 11:22am
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Most of the 40 odd labour MP's that labour used to send were just back bench voting fodder, nothing much will change with the SNP brigade, Wee Eck will keep them on short leashes.I do look forward to the first time the Speaker allows Mhari to ask the P.M. a question.
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post 11th May 2015, 11:47am
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Wait and see ex king Eckie will be tearing his hair oot ...!


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post 11th May 2015, 11:50am
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Wee Eck is not the leader of the SNP, he is not even the deputy leader as that title goes the Stewart Hosie who himself is an MP at Westminster(won 60% of the vote in his constituency). He will be the de facto leader of the SNP at Westminster, not Salmond.

I love how some seem to be turning their noses up at Mhairi Black simply because of the way she speaks, which as far as i'm aware is how most of the people in oor neck of the wids speak. She is at the moment doing her dissertation which means she knows how to word an argument or debate, I expect people like Jacob Rees-Mogg to mock the way she talks but certainly not her own kind... BTW she speaks with passion, which will be a welcome change to most of the bollx i hear coming from the place.


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**libby**
post 11th May 2015, 11:51am
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I am glad Labour where voted out they have sat back long enough, not listening to voters, I turned to MSP councilor and MP for Glasgow North, requests for help ignored, SNP need in to see if they can listen to voters.

Hopefully if we have problems with GHA NG Homes. SNP will help, because Labour sat in fence far too long.

Food banks housing crisis, benefit cuts, family allowance, bedroom tax needs looked into, and other important issues like wage increases.

Please SNP this is your chance to make Scotland proud, dont let us down. If you do let people down, well we will just have to vote else were. Labour thought Scotland was for them, then they turned there backs.
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post 11th May 2015, 12:04pm
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I expect at least one of the new Mps will have being told to delete their social media accounts due to the opinions expressed ...


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post 11th May 2015, 12:18pm
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QUOTE (lubbock @ 11th May 2015, 12:02pm) *
The Queen of Scots will be quirming with embarrassment when some of these newly elected Mps open their mouth...


No more than King Dave of England does when his underlings open their mouths. yes.gif
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post 11th May 2015, 12:21pm
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QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 11th May 2015, 12:30pm) *
Most of the 40 odd labour MP's that labour used to send were just back bench voting fodder, nothing much will change with the SNP brigade, Wee Eck will keep them on short leashes.I do look forward to the first time the Speaker allows Mhari to ask the P.M. a question.


Not a great first post Dykejumper, i suppose it will be another seven years before we read another one. unsure.gif
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post 11th May 2015, 12:23pm
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QUOTE (lubbock @ 11th May 2015, 01:12pm) *
I expect at least one of the new Mps will have being told to delete their social media accounts due to the opinions expressed ...


Yes, just like the Labour MP's did after their French ambassador lies were exposed. yes.gif
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post 11th May 2015, 03:33pm
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What makes this result in Scotland so very different than previous elections of modern times is that most SNP MPs won by miles (in the order of tens of thousands), apart from in the safest Lib Dem seat that they only just lost by a few hundred votes, a Labour held seat in which they came close but lost to the 'saviour' of the local football team, and a Conservative held seat right on the English border.

I do not know what's in store for Scottish politics in the future. If people do not vote in sufficient numbers for the opposition Parties up here, then the stage is set for an SNP takeover.

Down at Westminster (www.economist.com/graphicdetail), the SNP will achieve nothing by adopting a status of permanent opposition against a majority Conservative Government with enough support in the House of Commons to further reduce the SNP to a Party of protest with no influence.

Is that what everyone who backed the SNP, 'The new 50' if you like, really wants?

At Holyrood, the SNP is guaranteed free reign to govern Scotland, where the only minor opposition it will have is by virtue of the Additional Vote. The Indy Ref changed Scottish politics forever, dividing the country in two. One half of the country has just lost its voice entirely at Westminster - the half who actually want to have one huh.gif - and at next year's Scottish General Election, the 'Yes' vote will convert into another SNP takeover. MSPs of other parties might as well concede defeat already, the only debate worth having remains how heavy their defeat will be. And until Independence is won, this is how the situation shall remain.

Is this what the rest of the Scottish electorate, 'The Other Half' you might say, really wants?


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post 11th May 2015, 03:34pm
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Having been away for so long and following the elections on Sky I found it great that the young people are so keen to get involved. I think what Scotland did will gain momentum through the UK and politicians will have no choice but to listen to the voice of the people. You will always get the a holes who find every excuse that their party lost and blame everything except their own inefficiencies. I tried not to comment on the referendum or the elections as living away I do not think I should have any say in the lives of people living there.


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post 11th May 2015, 04:58pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th May 2015, 03:41pm) *
What makes this result in Scotland so very different than previous elections of modern times is that most SNP MPs won by miles (in the order of tens of thousands), apart from in the safest Lib Dem seat that they only just lost by a few hundred votes, a Labour held seat in which they came close but lost to the 'saviour' of the local football team, and a Conservative held seat right on the English border.

I do not know what's in store for Scottish politics in the future. If people do not vote in sufficient numbers for the opposition Parties up here, then the stage is set for an SNP takeover.

Thats a failing in the parties themselves, not the SNP who seem to have captured the hearts of much of the population. Of course it helped a lot that Wee Nic isn't Alex Salmond, who imho is a fantastic politician but some people just couldn't take to him. Thats not to say Nic doesn't have her own qualities, she comes across as warmer and friendlier who can also take on the big boys and fight her corner. You dont get labeled the most dangerous woman in the UK by being inept.
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Down at Westminster (www.economist.com/graphicdetail), the SNP will achieve nothing by adopting a status of permanent opposition against a majority Conservative Government with enough support in the House of Commons to further reduce the SNP to a Party of protest with no influence.

Is that what everyone who backed the SNP, 'The new 50' if you like, really wants?

Their very presence in those numbers sends a big message. We've been told the UK is a family of nations so if representatives from Scotland, Wales and N Ireland vote against a motion but it's pushed through by English conservatives then how can anyone really say the present political setup works or is fair, at the very least it is only going to stoke up more resentment over the years
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At Holyrood, the SNP is guaranteed free reign to govern Scotland, where the only minor opposition it will have is by virtue of the Additional Vote. The Indy Ref changed Scottish politics forever, dividing the country in two. One half of the country has just lost its voice entirely at Westminster - the half who actually want to have one huh.gif - and at next year's Scottish General Election, the 'Yes' vote will convert into another SNP takeover. MSPs of other parties might as well concede defeat already, the only debate worth having remains how heavy their defeat will be. And until Independence is won, this is how the situation shall remain.

The 'YES' vote was split across a few parties at holyrood, it could easily revert back to that and we see stronger Green representation and even a return for the Scottish socialists
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Is this what the rest of the Scottish electorate, 'The Other Half' you might say, really wants?


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You forget the list vote


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post 11th May 2015, 05:27pm
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I wonder if there will be a similar wipeout of other parties on 5th May 2016 ?
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post 11th May 2015, 09:34pm
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QUOTE (john.mcn @ 11th May 2015, 06:06pm) *
You forget the list vote

No, that's including it.
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the only minor opposition it will have is by virtue of the Additional Vote


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I wonder if there will be a similar wipeout of other parties on 5th May 2016 ?

What's to wonder? The SNP has 'won Scotland' with its Yes Campaign. How 'total' the demolition of the opposition will be is the only uncertain aspect of the outcome. Not even next March's figures for the Scottish economy, due to reveal the full impact of the slump in the price of oil, will deflect 'The 45' from its course. From Holyrood, the SNP will take Scotland far, before the effects of the Indy Ref wear off; but will the Party ever achieve its main goal? Probably not, unless, like me, you have wondered all along if that isn't Devo Max?
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th May 2015, 09:42pm) *
No, that's including it.

You call it a minor opposition, half the seats are selected using it. Your graph is flawed when you say that each seat is based on the SNP winning it with over 50% of the vote, nationwide the SNP vote was around 50%. Either way the % of the win is irrelevant as FPTP is used to select the first batch while a second vote is used to calculate the seats gained from the regional list using the additional member system form of proportional representation, not the overall percentage of the vote.
So with all that info you can then take a look at the 2011 Holyrood election and see that the SNPs share of the vote was 45.4% and 44% for the 1st and 2nd vote, yet you are foretelling another political tsunami based on a few percentage points increase.

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What's to wonder? The SNP has 'won Scotland' with its Yes Campaign. How 'total' the demolition of the opposition will be is the only uncertain aspect of the outcome. Not even next March's figures for the Scottish economy, due to reveal the full impact of the slump in the price of oil, will deflect 'The 45' from its course. From Holyrood, the SNP will take Scotland far, before the effects of the Indy Ref wear off; but will the Party ever achieve its main goal? Probably not, unless, like me, you have wondered all along if that isn't Devo Max?

The SNP won it with the anti austerity/trident choice, yes the political 'awakening' of many of the population (much of it the younger generation) during the referendum debate helped, and yes 'YES supporters from other parties came together to vote as one but you fail to see that there is a yearning for change, real change and that with the 'London parties' only offering more of the same the only two choices left were abstain or vote for change with the SNP.


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