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> Uk Independence Referendum - Brexit, Yes or No on EU membership
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carmella
post 5th Jun 2019, 04:04pm
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Well I wonder if the sun has something to do with it, but we don’t have that excuse sign_lol.gif


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wombat
post 5th Jun 2019, 06:49pm
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QUOTE (carmella @ 5th Jun 2019, 04:04pm) *
Well I wonder if the sun has something to do with it, but we don’t have that excuse sign_lol.gif



im sure your ENGLISH politicians will have a plethora of excuses in their bag of tricks,

and wont need help from an exploding star laugh.gif


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post 5th Jun 2019, 07:43pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 3rd Jun 2019, 05:22pm) *
Supporters. huh.gif


We voted to remain by 62%. Then separately at the recent EU election the SNP won 38% of the vote (a low turnout equates that to just 15% of the electorate).

But how can you justify your claim from those figures that the Scottish people keep voting SNP?

Don't believe the hype, Jagz. rolleyes.gif


I voted to remain in both referendums as you very well know. I accept both results and I'd vote the same way again. thumbup.gif


Oh dear Kem, are you saying the people of Scotland who keep voting the SNP into power are only "Supporters"?

Once again, are the 62% of the electorate who voted to Remain a majority or not Kem?

Don't believe the Britnat MSM Kem.

Then your future of Scotland is totally opposed to my future of Scotland Kem.
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post 5th Jun 2019, 07:56pm
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QUOTE (carmella @ 4th Jun 2019, 08:37am) *
The poor voter turnout in the recent election, I believe, is down to laziness, and a smuttering of voter apathy. The recent SNP result bears this out.

One of the things I pride myself in is that so long as I have free will, there will never be a referendum, local or general election that I will not cast my vote for



I think you'll find The Brexit party bears out your theory of voter apathy Carmella, a party (if you actually believe it is a party) that didn't exist two months ago against a party who has been in power overwhelmingly in the country for over twelve years.

Your EU separatist vote has been fractured, although i do agree with you (Don't faint Carmella) that people should get out and vote in every election.

The recent Brexit Party result bears this out. yes.gif
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post 5th Jun 2019, 08:03pm
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huh.gif looks like what was hoped to be an epidemic(EU fracturing)

was a vaccination laugh.gif laugh.gif Bahahaha


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post 5th Jun 2019, 09:37pm
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QUOTE (taurus @ 4th Jun 2019, 10:07pm) *
dead right Wombat but we voted in that fool to keep an even bigger fool out.


wub.gif apologies taurus this threads about THEIR fools not ours laugh.gif


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post 6th Jun 2019, 12:27am
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 5th Jun 2019, 08:43pm) *
Oh dear Kem, are you saying the people of Scotland who keep voting the SNP into power are only "Supporters"?

There are more people in Scotland who don't vote SNP, so enough with your nonsense about SNP supporters. We are people of Scotland regardless of who we vote for.

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 5th Jun 2019, 08:43pm) *
Once again, are the 62% of the electorate who voted to Remain a majority or not Kem?

Aye, but that wisnae a vote for the SNP. For crying out loud! ohmy.gif

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 5th Jun 2019, 08:43pm) *
Don't believe the Britnat MSM Kem.

Then your future of Scotland is totally opposed to my future of Scotland Kem.

Not totally. Don't discount our shared belief in EU membership. If we can leave, then one day we could rejoin if all the scare-stories came true. You of all people shouldn't fear independence.
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post 6th Jun 2019, 03:19pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 4th Jun 2019, 09:30pm) *
I'm forwarding your message immediately onto the Office of Scotland's First Minister. You never know, with any luck she'll emigrate and lead a breakaway Australian state onto freedom, nationhood and EU membership!

The Ozzie sun would probably do her more good than ours, Wombat. cool.gif

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Australia is an independent nation Kem, you must have known that?

Give me a laugh, who would you replace the FM with?
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post 6th Jun 2019, 03:41pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 6th Jun 2019, 01:27am) *
There are more people in Scotland who don't vote SNP, so enough with your nonsense about SNP supporters. We are people of Scotland regardless of who we vote for.


Aye, but that wisnae a vote for the SNP. For crying out loud! ohmy.gif


Not totally. Don't discount our shared belief in EU membership. If we can leave, then one day we could rejoin if all the scare-stories came true. You of all people shouldn't fear independence.


I don't recall you or Carmella spitting out the dummy when Teresa May claimed "the people have spoken" in 2016, or when David Cameron claimed "The people of Scotland have spoken in 2014

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/05...-a-principle-i/

https://www.manchesterconservatives.com/pri...and-have-spoken

I Never claimed the EU referendum was a vote for the SNP.

When have i ever said i fear independence?
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post 6th Jun 2019, 03:43pm
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Australia is an independent nation Kem, you must have known that?

Give me a laugh, who would you replace the FM with?

My tongue was firmly in my cheek, Jagz, you must have known that?

I don't think I like the undertones in your points of view! Firstly you claim that SNP supporters are 'the people' of Scotland, and now you seem to be questioning whether we could or maybe should replace Sturgeon as First Minister. Doesn't say much for your idea of a free Scotland? unsure.gif
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post 6th Jun 2019, 03:50pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 6th Jun 2019, 04:43pm) *
My tongue was firmly in my cheek, Jagz, you must have known that?

I don't think I like the undertones in your points of view! Firstly you claim that SNP supporters are 'the people' of Scotland, and now you seem to be questioning whether we could or maybe should replace Sturgeon as First Minister. Doesn't say much for your idea of a free Scotland? unsure.gif



I Have never claimed that SNP supporters are the people of Scotland, and you're really off form today if you're trying to accuse me of wanting to replace the FM.

Has someone hijacked your account by any chance? unsure.gif
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post 6th Jun 2019, 03:52pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 6th Jun 2019, 04:41pm) *
I don't recall you or Carmella spitting out the dummy when Teresa May claimed "the people have spoken" in 2016, or when David Cameron claimed "The people of Scotland have spoken in 2014

I Never claimed the EU referendum was a vote for the SNP.

When have i ever said i fear independence?

The people did speak, but as we have already agreed the so-called will of the people is transient.

If you didn't claim the EU ref vote in Scotland was a win for the SNP, then what point are you trying to make??

I do not consider independence in Europe to be a reason to call for another Indyref, but you do. You fear it.
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post 6th Jun 2019, 03:59pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 6th Jun 2019, 04:50pm) *
I Have never claimed that SNP supporters are the people of Scotland, and you're really off form today if you're trying to accuse me of wanting to replace the FM.

It's that you questioned replacing her. And here you do appear to equate voting SNP with being a person of Scotland...
QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 2nd Jun 2019, 12:50pm) *
Do you really think it's unusual for the leader of Scotland's largest party to talk about the will of the people of Scotland when the self same people keep voting for them?
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post 6th Jun 2019, 05:26pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 6th Jun 2019, 04:59pm) *
It's that you questioned replacing her. And here you do appear to equate voting SNP with being a person of Scotland...



Desperate stuff, still if it keeps your mind off the mess your leaders are making of running the country.

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post 6th Jun 2019, 06:19pm
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Kem, when the Selfie Queen and Blackgaurd talk about the people of Scotland they of course mean
the ones who agree with them.The wishes of the 55% No voters dont matter a jot. A No in Indyref2
will be the end of Sturgeon thats assuming the Wee Eck case doesnt sink her first.
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