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Posted by: Rab 4th Feb 2015, 06:37pm

I assume that 'Leisure' must include hobbies, pastimes etc for those who are not obsessed with sport, so I am opening a topic for those of this disposition.
I took up model-making some 6-7 years ago, mainly radio-controlled ships - well, what else from a Clydeside boy? I found that many people are fascinated with my models and I wondered what other members of the board do for a hobby.
I imagine that there are many on this site who quietly gain satisfaction, as I do, from an interest away from work and not involved with sport so come on you bee-keepers, anglers, climbers, pub-quizzers etc - lets hear from you - don't be shy!
I hope that this will encourage others to pass on their interests for the enjoyment of the rest of us.
For example - here is one I made earlier!! This is a representation of a turn of the century Glasgow paddle tug, many of which bustled away on the river, towing and pushing large ships into berths on the upper reaches in Glasgow.












Posted by: JAGZ1876 4th Feb 2015, 07:17pm

Love it Rab, she's a lovely Vessel. thumbup.gif

Posted by: Dave Grieve 5th Feb 2015, 08:21am

beautiful model Rab, must have given you a lot of satisfaction building it

Posted by: Billy Boil 5th Feb 2015, 09:51am

I make sailing ships at present working on the "Scottish Maid" circa 1835; was said to be the first "clipper ship" built in Aberdeen.

Posted by: wellfield 6th Feb 2015, 01:10am

Love the 'Tugboat'....

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Posted by: wellfield 6th Feb 2015, 01:28am

May be a wee bit out of line with the topic,but some guy just built this 20 foot long scale model from a solid piece of wood,it was delivered to the "Queen Mary" this week all the way from New York,it's now on display for a year.

Posted by: JAGZ1876 6th Feb 2015, 10:59am

QUOTE (wellfield @ 6th Feb 2015, 01:45am) *
some guy just built this 20 foot long scale model from a solid piece of wood,it was delivered to the "Queen Mary" this week all the way from New York,it's now on display for a year.


It looks good Wellfield, do you have a photo showing the full model?

Posted by: bilbo.s 6th Feb 2015, 12:04pm

Wellfield, are you sure this guy didn't pinch it from the old Transport Museum in the Kelvin Hall ?

Posted by: JAGZ1876 6th Feb 2015, 02:20pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 6th Feb 2015, 12:21pm) *
Wellfield, are you sure this guy didn't pinch it from the old Transport Museum in the Kelvin Hall ?


I was thinking along the same lines Bill, that's why i'd like to see the full model.

Posted by: wellfield 6th Feb 2015, 02:41pm

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 6th Feb 2015, 03:16am) *
It looks good Wellfield, do you have a photo showing the full model?

I'll look for one or go down to the ship and take a pic.

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Posted by: wellfield 6th Feb 2015, 03:04pm

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 6th Feb 2015, 06:37am) *
I was thinking along the same lines Bill, that's why i'd like to see the full model.

Ha' Ha'...no'...it was built by an individual in New York and just recently transported to Long Beach (Queen Mary) on loan for a year....

Posted by: zascot 6th Feb 2015, 03:07pm

When I first saw the photo with no caption (post 6) I thought it was you boasting Wellfield. I thought gee he`s good at his hobby thumbup.gif

Posted by: Rab 6th Feb 2015, 04:17pm

QUOTE (Billy Boil @ 5th Feb 2015, 10:08am) *
I make sailing ships at present working on the "Scottish Maid" circa 1835; was said to be the first "clipper ship" built in Aberdeen.


That's a lovely ship Billy and credit to you for building it. A very challenging build. I took on a project 2 years ago to rebuild a wrecked model of the 'ESMERALDA', the Chilean Navy training ship which is the only square rigger I have attempted but it was worth it as she was a lovely sight on the watter when I had finished her.
Rigging was very demanding as she had 19 sails !!.

Click photo as enlargement much better view.




Posted by: zascot 6th Feb 2015, 04:38pm

Beautiful model Rab. I envy your talent.

Posted by: Rab 6th Feb 2015, 06:11pm

No talent zascot - just practice! Superglue is a wonderful invention too!

ESMERALDA at night ......




Posted by: Billy Boil 7th Feb 2015, 03:12am

QUOTE (Rab @ 6th Feb 2015, 04:34pm) *
That's a lovely ship Billy and credit to you for building it. A very challenging build. I took on a project 2 years ago to rebuild a wrecked model of the 'ESMERALDA', the Chilean Navy training ship which is the only square rigger I have attempted but it was worth it as she was a lovely sight on the watter when I had finished her.
Rigging was very demanding as she had 19 sails !!.

Click photo as enlargement much better view.



I was once a member of a club that sailed models; none as grand as this though. I can never put one of my wooden vessels near water. I get nervous just moving them at home. I have not been doing anything for a while now due to construction in the house and the fact that it is a very wet and humid summer here and it makes it impossible to handle the masts and riggings.

I got started on this thanks to the collection in the "Art Galleries" where my father who was a sailor took me regularly to see the ship models . A lot of my time is and was spent on military figures, mainly Hussars and Samurai.

Keep up the great work on those sails, when we go on from this place people will still gain pleasure from looking at them.

Posted by: Billy Boil 8th Feb 2015, 01:25am

QUOTE (zascot @ 6th Feb 2015, 04:55pm) *
Beautiful model Rab. I envy your talent.

Dear Z.S. It is refreshing to see that there are those out there who appreciate effort and talent such as displayed by Rab. All too often when displaying my models I am damned by the faint praise "I wouldn't have
the patience to do that" Patience is as the Samurai had it, is another word for genius. My models are to exceptional standards and I have seen models that make me feel very inadequate. These serve to make me strive for that illusive perfection that can never be attained but must be striven for. Again thank you for appreciating a hobby that has been around from the time of the Pharaohs.

Posted by: Billy Boil 8th Feb 2015, 01:27am

QUOTE (Rab @ 6th Feb 2015, 06:28pm) *
No talent zascot - just practice! Superglue is a wonderful invention too!

ESMERALDA at night ......



Recognized it as I saw the original in Melbourne during the tall ships
visit for the bi-centennial in 1988.

Posted by: Rab 14th Feb 2015, 07:05pm

10 days, 351 views - only one other ship modeller! Is that all the interest from 11,000 members? - come on and tell us what you do for a hobby - or is this another waste of time? rolleyes.gif I might just send this round the Clyde to wake ye's all up!

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Posted by: Glasgow Guest 14th Feb 2015, 07:09pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 14th Feb 2015, 07:22pm) *
10 days, 351 views - only one other ship modeller! Is that all the interest from 11,000 members? - come on and tell us what you do for a hobby - or is this another waste of time? rolleyes.gif I might just send this round the Clyde to wake ye's all up!

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Where does it say that sharing Rab's interests is compulsory? I grew out of model-making when I was eleven!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Feb 2015, 04:34pm

Hi Rab, now into my 6th year of retirement I'm still wondering which Hobby I should dedicate my free time to: If I ever get free time that is.
My intented Hobby was Stargazing, mainly because I'm a night-owl anyway, but several things stood in my way there. First and foremost was that Mary's Family were not too happy with me erecting my observatory on the terrace above my bedroom. I'd laid out the floor plan on the Keller floor and had already built the eight segments, (like cake slices, making it easier to carry and assemble) using 25mm box-section steel. I had 100mm box-section aluminium supports to raise the observatory 1m50 from the terrace Level. Access would be gained from an extending ladder from my garden.
The Problem was that Mary's Family were frightened that this would extend an open invite to every hurglar within a hundred miles: My assurence that the ladder would be permanently moved by remote control and locked in a Position out of reach of the tallest burglar and; for added security, be under constant electric current flow when not in nightly use, laugh.gif did not do anything to reassure Mary's mum who lives in the flat above us and who's terrace, or a small Corner of which, I'd be using to Position my observatory.
During the following years where the discussion nearly went my way and it looked like I might have final Agreement on the go-ahead I learned that a Problem with my left eye which I'd been told was remedial turned out to be not so. It was concluded that I suffered AMD.
Since my right eye was no use for telescopic-star-gazing due to damage incurred after an accident where a sheared rivet head left me with double Vision over Long-distance viewing in that eye, it became obvious even to me that my star-gazing nights would in future be better conducted in the comfort of my Computer room ... and a damn sight warmer anyway tongue.gif
Oil painting was next on the Hobby list ... but I've so many "unfinished" works due to the fact that oil takes so Long to dry that I get fed-up waiting to get on with the next stage.
This was my first attempt with oil. The subjects were our two cats which we had adopted from a shelter about 14 years ago. The joke was that These two wouldn't have shared the same room together never mind being found in such a pose. rolleyes.gif


A Detail of the above featuring our Big Maus ...


This one, in Acrylic colours, was for a friend who's German Shepherd "Lady" had passed away ...


... and a 3D gravestone for my mate Detlef who's dearly loved cat "Tequila" went to that Great-Hunting-Ground-In-The-Sky



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This used to be a "Tanner's Tree" in our garden but rather than completely removing it I thought I could make use of it ... The carving tool was a butcher's cleaver laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Feb 2015, 04:40pm

The remains of the Tanner's Tree.



The thing is Rab, that none of the above could be classed as part of any Hobby (other than the observatory) since the art pieces were really only a case of doing favours for friends; including the cats for Mary.

So, I'm still considering what I might adopt as a Hobby when I do eventually get some free time for myself.
If I could afford a really good camera I'd probably opt for photography. tongue.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Feb 2015, 04:47pm

Mary also thinks it would be a good idea if I could get around to finishing the Portrait of Charlie and the Big Maus tongue.gif

Posted by: DannyH 16th Feb 2015, 12:35am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 15th Feb 2015, 05:04pm) *
Mary also thinks it would be a good idea if I could get around to finishing the Portrait of Charlie and the Big Maus :P



Hello TeeHeeHee

I have been reading your posts in other topics as well as this one. You have had a very interesting life, and you are talented. You have survived some serious injuries, but have retained your sense of humour. I think you should write your life story - dare I say it, before it is too late!

Best regards

Danny Harris

P.S. for Rab. You are very talented too. I gave up building models when I was 14. I built one of those kit model aeroplanes, made of balsam wood with elastic to power the propeller. I lived in a tenement top floor. After completing the job, I told all of my pals to go down to the back court and spread out in order to retrieve the aeroplane. I wound up the elastic, released the 'plane out of the window. It turned upside down, then nose dived in a spin and crashed to the ground.

Posted by: ashfield 16th Feb 2015, 08:15am

Danny, in the early 60s a small group of us were hooked on building airfix kits. One guy was the top dog in model making, his name was Danny McGonigal and he later joined the airforce in America. He also made the balsa aeroplanes then covered the frame in a kind of tissue paper. The paper was painted with a "size" which tightened and sealed up the paper. He was showing me the process and took his plane over to the coal fire to speed up the drying process. He obviously forgot how flammable the size was and pretty soon he was trying to stuff a foot long burning plane into the fire ohmy.gif

Danny was a bit embarrassed but that soon changed when his father came into the living room and, as I made a hasty retreat, started skelping him tongue.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 16th Feb 2015, 01:26pm

Ash, my 10 year older brother and his mate used to spend hours building those Balsa Wood aircraft and then set them into the air after they'd deliberately put a light to the tail-planes. rolleyes.gif
He also build model ships like the "Santa Maria", or the "Santa Crux" I think, and such but when finished he donated them to the Childrens Ward in Hairmyers Hospital in East Kilbride.

DannyH, thanks for the compliment. wink.gif
Funnily enough it was only last week that I thought I'd better start writing now because of the recent realisation that if my right eye starts to deteriorate any more I'll have left it too late to write at all since the left eye has this AMD affliction already.
When I met Mary 25 years ago I was in the process of writing but Mary couldn't understand that I couldn't just stop at the drop of a ladel when she'd got the evening meal ready or when she needed me to attend to some household chore or other unsure.gif so at the end I just gave it up as a bad idea for a while and Gathering Moss became another "unfinished work" ... much to the chagrin of my German mate Michael who had been translating it at the time and using some of it during his studies (English & Germanic) at Basel Uni.
I guess that what I'll have to do is dedicate one particular day a week to it ... or burn the midnight oil on it.
Cheers,
Tomi.

Posted by: serabash 16th Feb 2015, 03:23pm

one of my hobbies right now is teaching myself with books how to draw.

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Posted by: DannyH 16th Feb 2015, 11:22pm

Very impressive drawings serabash. Are you sure you are just a beginner? Well done!

Regards

Danny

Posted by: serabash 16th Feb 2015, 11:47pm

thanks danny, aye I have always doodled but nothing more than eyes and faces then last year after I lost my husband I thought I would buy some teach yourself to draw books and this is the result, I know I still have a lot to learn but I am quite chuffed with what I have managed so far.

Posted by: Melody 17th Feb 2015, 09:29am

Well done Serabash, your drawings are brilliant. I'm like you, I've always doodled and now that I'm retired my family are always on at me to take it up again. You've put me in the notion. laugh.gif Mind you the auld eyes are not so good as they once were. Keep it up, I think you've done brilliantly well. smile.gif

Posted by: serabash 17th Feb 2015, 11:52am

thanks melody I would send you the books if you like. just pm me , they have helped me loads.x

Posted by: Melody 17th Feb 2015, 12:10pm

Aw that is so kind of you Serabash however I have absolutely no excuse not to start again as I've got materials and books ( in the bottom of the wardrobe.) blush.gif blush.gif I was in The Art Store in Queen Street yesterday just having a wee potter around. Well done you though. confidence is the thing as always. smile.gif

Posted by: serabash 17th Feb 2015, 05:12pm

look forward to seeing your efforts melody , get the pencils out. x

Posted by: Rab 17th Feb 2015, 07:42pm

Thanks for making the thread more interesting folks, really good subjects showing off personal talent worth sharing.
Your hobby doesn't need to be a successful one, just interesting.
I have a friend who collects sheets of toilet paper wherever he goes and posts them in an album like photies!! He is a world traveller and although this a sounds daft collecting habit, he makes fun comments on the quality of the item, good or bad, it makes for fun and an interesting read. I particularly remember one sheet from a hotel somewhere in Russia which looked and felt like sandpaper!
I used to collect sugar packet labels and finished up with nearly 2000 before I gave then to a really serious collector who had over 5,000, from the Concorde (highest flying commercial aircraft) to a hotel on the Dead Sea, the lowest point on the Earth surface. There is actually a society for these collectors!
Any other collectors out there? Competition nuts? Fetishists? ohmy.gif (OK that was tongue in cheek!). Gardening freaks? Lets see your melons! Anything else.

My ancestors came to Lewis in one like this ... only a wee bit bigger!


Posted by: Heather 17th Feb 2015, 08:54pm

My favourite pastime is Knitting especially children's Aran Sweater's as they are so quick and easy to knit. I use up the left over wool to knit children's glove's and mitts.

I hand them in to our Parish Christmas Fete as they get sold off quite cheap and I was told many mother's are glad to buy them to keep their children warm in Winter.

Other then knitting and using the Laptop I read a lot, but I don't like the two books I got out the LIbrary last week, so I have dug out some of my Maeve Binchy books as I love all her books.
The one I am re-reading is Scarlet Feather.

Posted by: wellfield 17th Feb 2015, 09:19pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 6th Feb 2015, 08:34am) *
That's a lovely ship Billy and credit to you for building it. A very challenging build. I took on a project 2 years ago to rebuild a wrecked model of the 'ESMERALDA', the Chilean Navy training ship which is the only square rigger I have attempted but it was worth it as she was a lovely sight on the watter when I had finished her.
Rigging was very demanding as she had 19 sails !!.

Click photo as enlargement much better view.


Beautiful model!....I saw the real McCoy a few years ago when she came to Long Beach,CA.

Posted by: wellfield 17th Feb 2015, 09:21pm

Lot's of talent showing up on the thread!....I saw 'serabash's' drawings before,she's a talented Lass also!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 18th Feb 2015, 01:35pm

Serabash, way to go kid tongue.gif Well done wink.gif

Rab, I wonder if your friend has among his collection a sample of a toilet roll which is on the market here and is called "Happy End" biggrin.gif
I'm not so happy with it myself as it is of the finger-through-the-paper quality. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: serabash 18th Feb 2015, 02:23pm

thanks folks.x thumbup.gif

Posted by: Rab 18th Feb 2015, 07:47pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 18th Feb 2015, 01:52pm) *
Serabash, way to go kid Well done

Rab, I wonder if your friend has among his collection a sample of a toilet roll which is on the market here and is called "Happy End" biggrin.gif
I'm not so happy with it myself as it is of the finger-through-the-paper quality.


He may well have Tomi! he was a member of the Diplomatic Service and moved around all the High Commissions in the Commonwealth and some Embassies collecting their bog-paper samples unbeknownst to them laugh.gif
He even categorised different airlines and one page in his album was blank to represent the flight where they ran out!!! laugh.gif
To entertain the children in our local park, I am building a speedboat which will carry Mr Toad, Mole, Badger and Ratty and will be called 'Messing About' as in the book. My intended crew found their way into my workshop last week and were eager to try out the boat before it is even finished.
I caught the wee rascals playing hide & seek!







Posted by: Rab 18th Feb 2015, 08:01pm

QUOTE (wellfield @ 17th Feb 2015, 09:36pm) *
Beautiful model!....I saw the real McCoy a few years ago when she came to Long Beach,CA.


Hi Campbell, I saw her too in Portsmouth Naval Base on a Tall Ship Day in 2001. She was open to the public and I got the tour onboard. Truly a magnificent vessel and polished to perfection.
She had a black past though as she was used as a prison for political offenders under General Pinochet and many were tortured to death on board her. To this day she is banned from many ports until certain people are tried for war crimes. Despite this, she is a beautiful example of the type and is now officially the largest sailing vessel in the world. yes.gif
Here she is entering Pearl Harbour.


Posted by: wellfield 19th Feb 2015, 03:41am

Interesting!...Thanks Rab!

Posted by: zascot 20th Feb 2015, 01:56pm

Well done all of you. My hobby is photography and I probably spend to much time on it. especially wildlife. My wife always finds something for me to do with repairs etc around the house, I am trying to get her just to tell me what she wants done once and not nag on and on every 6 months about it. tongue.gif Rab I travel a lot and could send your friend some toilet paper from my various destinations, does he like new or used? biggrin.gif

Posted by: ashfield 20th Feb 2015, 03:21pm

Yes, my obsession

Posted by: ashfield 20th Feb 2015, 03:35pm

Yes, my obsession is photography as well biggrin.gif I played football and indoor 5-a-sides until I was 62 but a dodgy knee put paid to that and my other pasttime, hill walking.

I got hooked on photography following a pincer movement between my older cousin who was dead keen, and a teacher at my school (see the St Augustines thread) who taught me how to make a print in the darkroom when I was about 14. I got my first 35mm camera the next year and the rest is history. Although the obsessional bit is a kinda joke, there were times when I was probably a tad over enthusiastic rolleyes.gif It's well under control now though.............no, really laugh.gif

(for those technically minded, you will see my skills at dodging and burning in my last post tongue.gif )

Posted by: Rab 21st Feb 2015, 11:22pm

QUOTE (zascot @ 20th Feb 2015, 02:13pm) *
Well done all of you. My hobby is photography and I probably spend to much time on it. especially wildlife. My wife always finds something for me to do with repairs etc around the house, I am trying to get her just to tell me what she wants done once and not nag on and on every 6 months about it. tongue.gif Rab I travel a lot and could send your friend some toilet paper from my various destinations, does he like new or used? biggrin.gif



laugh.gif He is a very environment aware type so I think he would prefer the recycled kind thanks. wink.gif

Posted by: wombat 21st Feb 2015, 11:35pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 21st Feb 2015, 11:39pm) *
laugh.gif He is a very environment aware type so I think he would prefer the recycled kind thanks. wink.gif


tongue.gif wiping it while riding a bike tongue.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 22nd Feb 2015, 12:47am

My hobby is selling on Ebay.What started off with selling a surplus camera has just developed into quite an enjoyable pastime.It seems that it doesnt matter what the item is, someone will buy it eg, and I think I mentioned this before, someone bought a bar of Fairy soap from me on one of my auctions. ph34r.gif

Posted by: Billy Boil 23rd Feb 2015, 12:18am

At one time my hobby was photography. My wife also was caught up with it.
Her brother also took up photography but he became one of the worlds top photographers leaving me and my efforts back in the starting gate. During my photography years I managed to collect a load of speciality cameras; Leicas with telephoto lenses, several Rolleis including the famous twin lens, two Nikons, and a twin lens Yashica. I still have a Rollei and a couple of Nikons gathering dust somewhere. Since the inception of digital photography it is difficult to take a bad (i.e. exposure, focus wise) photo. All those learning curves of focal length and focal distance, grey scale cards and darkroom skills all gone to computer chips. I now have a Sony Cyber shot which takes instantly, photos I would agonize over bracketing and using my Weston Master 5 light meter to get things just right. One great thing about ship models and military figures, there will never be a machine that can build sailing ship models to the standard a human can.

Posted by: zascot 23rd Feb 2015, 09:01am

QUOTE (Billy Boil @ 23rd Feb 2015, 12:35am) *
At one time my hobby was photography. My wife also was caught up with it.
Her brother also took up photography but he became one of the worlds top photographers leaving me and my efforts back in the starting gate. During my photography years I managed to collect a load of speciality cameras; Leicas with telephoto lenses, several Rolleis including the famous twin lens, two Nikons, and a twin lens Yashica. I still have a Rollei and a couple of Nikons gathering dust somewhere. Since the inception of digital photography it is difficult to take a bad (i.e. exposure, focus wise) photo. All those learning curves of focal length and focal distance, grey scale cards and darkroom skills all gone to computer chips. I now have a Sony Cyber shot which takes instantly, photos I would agonize over bracketing and using my Weston Master 5 light meter to get things just right. One great thing about ship models and military figures, there will never be a machine that can build sailing ship models to the standard a human can.

Agree with you 100% re photography but with the development of 3D printers models will eventually be done by machine as good if not better than humans.There is no substitute for something being designed and built by an individual and I hope this does not change. My hobby is also photography and I remember how hard it was to get that shot which is now dne by a click of a button.

Posted by: Betsy2009 23rd Feb 2015, 09:12am

3D printers are amazing but they'll never replace proper model builders because they only use plastic rather than all the materials that go into building a proper model.
Digital cameras are amazing but they still rely on the photographer to see what a good photograph is. Technology doesn't have 'the eye' for a good picture.
Thank goodness for all you people out there with your hobbies and skills to make something so beautiful - I salute you.

Posted by: ashfield 23rd Feb 2015, 02:56pm

QUOTE (zascot @ 23rd Feb 2015, 09:18am) *
Agree with you 100% re photography but with the development of 3D printers models will eventually be done by machine as good if not better than humans.There is no substitute for something being designed and built by an individual and I hope this does not change. My hobby is also photography and I remember how hard it was to get that shot which is now dne by a click of a button.


I have tried, over the years, not to get too involved in the debate about film and digital photography (do you think the folk making Daguerreotypes felt the same about silver halides smile.gif ). In the early days of me getting involved in photography I remember similar debates about film negative sizes and film formats. You are spot on about the care needed when shooting a roll of colour reversal though, at 6 or 7 a time, each shot was carefully thought through. I try to adopt the same approach now to taking photos, but with a 1000 shots on my memory card, I do sometimes get a bit lazy.

I'm not adverse to using a bit of photoshop either, I do draw the line at trying to replicate some of the HDR images that photo magazines think we should all be aspiring to. I've even heard the argument they are just like modern day examples of Ansel Adams zone system. Generally, I think they mostly look unnatural and are miles away from how I see the world. The main thing is, it's still fun and a bit cheaper now cool.gif

Posted by: ktv 23rd Feb 2015, 03:50pm

used to love going up Springburn park (on a sunday I think) and watching the men with their wee handmade boats, there used to be a bothy for them to work in just next to the pond. I know the bothy disappeared when the built the council yard there but always wondered what happened to all the guys with their boats....did they just go to another park?

Posted by: zascot 23rd Feb 2015, 04:21pm

Photoshop causes many an argument in our local camera club. I`m a fan of 'the shot you take is the shot you get" and not "cock it up and fix it in photoshop" but I see both sides of the argument even though I`m always right, laugh.gif

Posted by: ashfield 23rd Feb 2015, 06:10pm

Zascot, I kinda agree, anything I do in Photoshop is minor. Although...........I took some photos at a friends wedding after the official guy failed to appear, I had previously done a couple for money and decided it was just not worth the hassle rolleyes.gif Afterwards I discovered that all of the main group shots had at least one person with their eyes closed. Cue heads getting cut and transplanted, and a happy bride (as you know, bridegrooms couldn't give a monkeys laugh.gif)

Posted by: zascot 24th Feb 2015, 05:47am

OK you got me. That is a good reason to use photoshop, what I can`t stand is someone taking a land/seacape and then turning the sky red and generally making the shot different from the one they thought out and executed. I`m big into wildlife and live in the right continent for it, trying to position yourself and get the right shot is part of the excitement then if you get a good shot you get the satisfaction. I have some shots with lions that photoshop could not improve because when I look at them I know that "I took that" just me and my camera and no alterations to make it look different. I suppose it goes back to the 35mm days when you thought it out more than the point and shoot cameras of today. Anyway enough of the moans. My grandaughter has just been given a little point and shoot which works underwater to a depth of 5 metres its amazing the technology of today.

Posted by: ktv 24th Feb 2015, 08:58am

only time I ever use photoshop is to slightly enhance the colour so the pic looks like what I saw with my eyes, suppose a couple of 100 of decent camera equipment would do the same right enough.

Posted by: zascot 24th Feb 2015, 09:14am

you take the shot, you load it on your PC, you adjust it to look like your memory, you print it, it looks wrong, you try to calibrate the screen and the printer, you pull your hair out, you have a few beers. it looks a bit better, a few whiskys it looks great and so the slippery slope to alcoholism starts, photography is great thumbup.gif

Posted by: ktv 24th Feb 2015, 10:14am

lol...after a few beers an whiskys no one cares what it looks like

Posted by: Billy boil 27th Feb 2015, 03:44pm

QUOTE (zascot @ 23rd Feb 2015, 09:18am) *
Agree with you 100% re photography but with the development of 3D printers models will eventually be done by machine as good if not better than humans.There is no substitute for something being designed and built by an individual and I hope this does not change. My hobby is also photography and I remember how hard it was to get that shot which is now dne by a click of a button.

We were referring to hand crafted timber sailing ship models replete with sails and rigging. Even as far as plastic models are concerned they are produced by a complex system of roller and injection moulding that although produced by high tec. computer interface can not be duplicated by 3D moulding.

There is also the question of brass etched features which although stamped from photo process sill must be assembled by hand using methods no machines out side NASA could duplicate. The idea that there will some day be a machine that can rig, plank, set the gun ports, canons and masts on a 1/74 scale model of Nelsons flag ship is rather in the realms of absurdity.

Posted by: Billy Boil 27th Feb 2015, 03:47pm

QUOTE (zascot @ 24th Feb 2015, 06:04am) *
OK you got me. That is a good reason to use photoshop, what I can`t stand is someone taking a land/seacape and then turning the sky red and generally making the shot different from the one they thought out and executed. I`m big into wildlife and live in the right continent for it, trying to position yourself and get the right shot is part of the excitement then if you get a good shot you get the satisfaction. I have some shots with lions that photoshop could not improve because when I look at them I know that "I took that" just me and my camera and no alterations to make it look different. I suppose it goes back to the 35mm days when you thought it out more than the point and shoot cameras of today. Anyway enough of the moans. My grandaughter has just been given a little point and shoot which works underwater to a depth of 5 metres its amazing the technology of today.

Thee was an article in the photography / technology section of the weekend state newspaper this weekend about the benefits of retreating back to the dark room to process and develop photos that some saw as superior to present day technical manipulation through advanced camera and computer applications. After a brief description on what we all were subject to in producing an image, even with the best of the high end cameras, the argument fell on deaf ears. What I can do now with my single Sony Cyber Shot and my computer, printer etc. will never be matched for ease of application and downright convenience by any of the equipment I used in the past. As for photo shop, it is a hobby sort of application (for non Professionals) that enhances the interest of the amateur photographer who wishes to explore and enhance the rewards available to them through this media.

Posted by: Rab 28th Feb 2015, 07:57pm



Talking of 'Blue Peter' - here's one I made earlier!



Posted by: wombat 28th Feb 2015, 08:47pm

thumbup.gif nice

Posted by: Betsy2009 3rd Mar 2015, 11:44am

How not to photoshop ...

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/techandscience/25-of-the-worst-photoshop-errors-ever/ss-BBhKJiB?ocid=iehp#image=4

Posted by: wellfield 4th Mar 2015, 01:25am

QUOTE (Rab @ 28th Feb 2015, 12:14pm) *
Talking of 'Blue Peter' - here's one I made earlier!


Love it!

Posted by: wellfield 4th Mar 2015, 01:42am

http://s265.photobucket.com/user/wellfield/media/IMG_0016-2.jpg.html

Posted by: wellfield 4th Mar 2015, 01:49am

This may not count,but I consider this a hobby (all aluminium welded hull) fishing boat I built in my spare time at my yard for my Grandson, trailer included......being as I built large steel hulled Tug Boats/barges and repaired Ships,erected container gantry cranes,this was a stress relieving hobby for me on the side....this was our launching day!......

Posted by: Rab 4th Mar 2015, 08:01pm

QUOTE (wellfield @ 4th Mar 2015, 01:59am) *
http://s265.photobucket.com/user/wellfield/media/IMG_0016-2.jpg.html


It counts absolutely Campbell! Making things from nothing with your bare hands and brains beats sitting watching golf any time IMHO thumbup.gif I have (if you hadn't noticed!) been daft about boats since I first smelt the Clyde when I was 3 minutes old and ye canny beat them! I have worked and sailed many till old age crept up and stopped my deep sea wandering. Now its the wee ones, and even these give enormous satisfaction when you see them on the watter. Your boat does you great credit.

Remember what Rat said to Mole in 'The Wind In The Willows' .........

'Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing — absolutely nothing — half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. Simply messing... about in boats — or with boats. In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's the charm of it. Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not.

My post #45 above refers to my latest effort which hit the watter today - see the slideshow -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AtyK_aaoUg

The wee ones had a great time! laugh.gif

Posted by: serabash 4th Mar 2015, 09:24pm

smashing wellfield and rab my late husband had a wee 25ft sailing boat and that he kept at kip marina inverkip and he loved messing about on that wee boat even in the marina. the guys in his sailing club meet daily and help each other fix up their boats or they meet on one boat for a wee blether and a can of beer or a glass of wine. aye ian loved messing about on his boat. wink.gif

Posted by: serabash 4th Mar 2015, 09:27pm

right now I am refurbing my 12th scale dolls house ian built me around 20 yrs ago. when it's finished I will post the pictures.

Posted by: lubbock 5th Mar 2015, 06:43pm

Model ships ,Cats... Superb ..what talented creative people you are..well done .lets see more of your works ...

Posted by: brian432 5th Mar 2015, 06:55pm

QUOTE (serabash @ 4th Mar 2015, 09:44pm) *
right now I am refurbing my 12th scale dolls house ian built me around 20 yrs ago. when it's finished I will post the pictures.


laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: serabash 5th Mar 2015, 07:04pm

what's funny brian?

Posted by: JAGZ1876 5th Mar 2015, 08:26pm

QUOTE (serabash @ 5th Mar 2015, 07:21pm) *
what's funny brian?


My thoughts as well, looking forward to seeing your pics.

Posted by: serabash 5th Mar 2015, 08:48pm

thanks jagz wink.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 6th Mar 2015, 11:39am

QUOTE (Rab @ 28th Feb 2015, 09:14pm) *
Talking of 'Blue Peter' - here's one I made earlier!




Including the Ol' Seadog Rab biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rab 6th Mar 2015, 08:10pm

QUOTE (serabash @ 4th Mar 2015, 09:41pm) *
smashing wellfield and rab my late husband had a wee 25ft sailing boat and that he kept at kip marina inverkip and he loved messing about on that wee boat even in the marina. the guys in his sailing club meet daily and help each other fix up their boats or they meet on one boat for a wee blether and a can of beer or a glass of wine. aye ian loved messing about on his boat. wink.gif


I know how your husband felt serabash! Best hobby ever - and nowhere near expensive as some may think. I was away most weekends enjoying the 'freedom of the sea'. One day, I just turned left (south) and 19 hours later I sailed into St Peter Port, Guernsey. I didn't do it again though! The Channel is a very bust place.
This is my wee Westerly 22 at Weymouth the day before she took me to Guernsey. Smashin weather that week! Happy daze.


Posted by: Rab 6th Mar 2015, 08:15pm



He couldn't have been all bad then! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Rab 6th Mar 2015, 08:23pm

QUOTE (serabash @ 4th Mar 2015, 09:44pm) *
right now I am refurbing my 12th scale dolls house ian built me around 20 yrs ago. when it's finished I will post the pictures.


We all look forward to sharing your pictures serabash. yes.gif
My Grand-daughter supplied my 'African Queen' with lots of bits from her old dolls house - can you spot them?


Posted by: wellfield 6th Mar 2015, 08:55pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 6th Mar 2015, 12:27pm) *
I know how your husband felt serabash! Best hobby ever - and nowhere near expensive as some may think. I was away most weekends enjoying the 'freedom of the sea'. One day, I just turned left (south) and 19 hours later I sailed into St Peter Port, Guernsey. I didn't do it again though! The Channel is a very bust place.
This is my wee Westerly 22 at Weymouth the day before she took me to Guernsey. Smashin weather that week! Happy daze.


Very nice!!!!....love the water!

Posted by: Rab 6th Mar 2015, 09:36pm

Thanks Campbell. I just remembered that the day before I got there, I anchored offshore at a Dorset landmark called Durdle Door, a natural sea arch and rowed ashore for a walk along the beach. I then saw the boat framed like this. An amazing shot I never excpected!
As it was a windless day, I rowed back to the boat, raised the sails then rowed back to shore to take the photo! One of my favourites. Thought I would shere it tonight.





 

Posted by: Rab 6th Mar 2015, 09:59pm

The previous post got mixed up somehow! The second photo was taken at dawn on an Easter Sunday in Chichester Harbour.
I was asleep in my boat on the left at the time. My friend, from the other boat, who liked to get up early could not resist taking this.
This was my last biggish boat 'PUFFIN' which took me thousands of miles of enjoyable sailing.
I was scrubbing her bottom one day when I noticed this lady painting our picture.





Cap'n Rab.

Posted by: serabash 7th Mar 2015, 12:59am

rab, ian used to have a westerly centaur but his last was a tomhawk if that's the right spelling but very like the westerly. he helped sail a pals boat to portugal on a six week rally from Ireland. he loved it. me I only would go as far as rothesay biggrin.gif and most of the sail I was below deck with wristbands and quells .I am deffo a fair weather sailor biggrin.gif just months before he died Ian put a brand new inboard engine in his boat 5.500 and only used it once after it went in. so sad he never got the benefit of it. Though the thought that he had it to look forward too was worth it.

my dolls house has so much detail in it now I think it will need to be a wee video that's made to let folk see all the wee stuff in it. I have one of those blue plaques they put on the past homes of famous folk with Ian's details on and it has saltire bunting hanging from the soffits. can't wait to get it finished.

Posted by: serabash 7th Mar 2015, 01:02am

love the painting.
meant to say your boat looks so much like Ians . same colours his was called tanera after one of the summer isles.

Posted by: ashfield 7th Mar 2015, 08:36am

QUOTE (Rab @ 6th Mar 2015, 08:27pm) *
I know how your husband felt serabash! Best hobby ever - and nowhere near expensive as some may think. I was away most weekends enjoying the 'freedom of the sea'. One day, I just turned left (south) and 19 hours later I sailed into St Peter Port, Guernsey. I didn't do it again though! The Channel is a very bust place.
This is my wee Westerly 22 at Weymouth the day before she took me to Guernsey. Smashin weather that week! Happy daze.



Brilliant Rab, used to love Weymouth. How long did it take you to get back from Guernsey huh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 7th Mar 2015, 12:33pm

Aw this talk o' wee boats. I slept in one for the night ... in a seafaring uncle's back garden laugh.gif
My uncle,a retired RN CPO living in Portsmouth, had invited me to live at his place while recouperating from my riding accident during my RAF days. He and his sons all had their wee boats. One of his sons took me for a night-out on the town and somehow we got split up on our nightclub crawl; and he having been told in no uncertain tone by his father and mother to look well after me, so I eventually got a taxi back to my uncle's and for fear of causing problems for my cousin decided to wait in the boat in the garden till I heard him come home ... but must have fallen asleep. rolleyes.gif
We both got laldy laugh.gif
I suppose stranger things have happened at sea. tongue.gif

Posted by: Rab 8th Mar 2015, 04:01pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 7th Mar 2015, 08:53am) *
Brilliant Rab, used to love Weymouth. How long did it take you to get back from Guernsey huh.gif


About 19 hours to get there and 23 to get back. A beautiful sail but crossing the shipping lanes in the dark was VERY scary being single-handed, I had to keep awake and alert as them big boats really get a move on and- they canny see you!! sad.gif
This was taken on the return trip towards the Isle of Wight ...



I note that the depth was only 7.8 metes which shows how shallow the Channel can be! yes.gif

Posted by: Rab 8th Mar 2015, 09:00pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 7th Mar 2015, 12:50pm) *
Aw this talk o' wee boats. I slept in one for the night ... in a seafaring uncle's back garden
My uncle,a retired RN CPO living in Portsmouth, had invited me to live at his place while recouperating from my riding accident during my RAF days. He and his sons all had their wee boats. One of his sons took me for a night-out on the town and somehow we got split up on our nightclub crawl; and he having been told in no uncertain tone by his father and mother to look well after me, so I eventually got a taxi back to my uncle's and for fear of causing problems for my cousin decided to wait in the boat in the garden till I heard him come home ... but must have fallen asleep. rolleyes.gif
We both got laldy
I suppose stranger things have happened at sea.


Funny you should mention that Tomi!
On another forum (for sailors), someone asked for stories of 'things found floating at sea' whllst we were out sailing.
I think my story won by a margin! I was sailing west in the Solent just north of the Isle of Wight one sunny day when I heard/felt a hellofa 'clunk' at the back of the boat. The steering was jammed, so I dropped the sails and prodded around the erse end with a boathook when to my utter surprise - up popped a long length of drain-roads, all joined up and including the plunger at the end. I sat there scratching my head wondering which plumber somewhere who was clearing someones blocked drains when he lost his rods! Somebody must have flushed as he was at work!
Anyway, they were well-washed and clean by then after who knows how long floating around. I kept and used them for years. yes.gif

Posted by: wellfield 9th Mar 2015, 12:57am

QUOTE (Rab @ 8th Mar 2015, 09:18am) *
About 19 hours to get there and 23 to get back. A beautiful sail but crossing the shipping lanes in the dark was VERY scary being single-handed, I had to keep awake and alert as them big boats really get a move on and- they canny see you!! sad.gif
This was taken on the return trip towards the Isle of Wight ...



I note that the depth was only 7.8 metes which shows how shallow the Channel can be! yes.gif
Good for you!!

Posted by: ashfield 10th Mar 2015, 05:42pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 8th Mar 2015, 04:18pm) *
About 19 hours to get there and 23 to get back. A beautiful sail but crossing the shipping lanes in the dark was VERY scary being single-handed, I had to keep awake and alert as them big boats really get a move on and- they canny see you!! sad.gif


That was a fair trip. Never quite got into sailing, probably because I'm not very good at swimming. We went out once in a rowing boat at Falmouth, there was a regatta on and I wanted to take some photos. I kinda lost track of how far out we had got until the wee boat started going in several directions at once ohmy.gif . Somehow I had managed to get into a place where several currents merged. My rowing back to the harbour would probably have got me considered for the Olympics biggrin.gif

Posted by: ashfield 11th Mar 2015, 03:38pm

I found some of the photos I took that day, still gives me the heebie-jeebies biggrin.gif






Posted by: brian432 11th Mar 2015, 07:32pm

QUOTE (serabash @ 5th Mar 2015, 08:21pm) *
what's funny brian?

Sorry Serabash, I read the post wrong, and thought you meant he started building it 20 years ago and hadn't finished it yet. blush4.gif

Posted by: serabash 11th Mar 2015, 11:25pm

that's ok brian I'll let you away wae it wink.gif

Posted by: Billy Boil 13th Mar 2015, 11:51am

QUOTE (wellfield @ 4th Mar 2015, 02:06am) *
This may not count,but I consider this a hobby (all aluminium welded hull) fishing boat I built in my spare time at my yard for my Grandson, trailer included......being as I built large steel hulled Tug Boats/barges and repaired Ships,erected container gantry cranes,this was a stress relieving hobby for me on the side....this was our launching day!......

Everything you do and build for your own edification is a hobby. On retirement I had great plans to buy a boat ( I can only work in timber and would be reluctant to put to sea where I live on the Coral Sea in anything I built) how ever due to being collected on a cross walk by a clinically blind and probably insane geriatric *&%$ch boating is now beyond me. I cant even fish safely from the rocks now. It even put a dent in the Harley I was going to buy. It's a b@$^@rd when at last you can afford it but can't do it.

I've still got my ships and military models (figures) and still make fine furniture. That boat you built looks very professional Try your hand at an ocean going one. I have a story about a guy who lived near me and did that but it had a sad ending. Don't stop doing what you do well.

Posted by: billy Boil 13th Mar 2015, 12:02pm

This is the tale I can tell, about a guy near where I lived, I passed by his house frequently. Apparently he worked for the same Telco as I did and a lot of the technicians knew him and told me about the yacht taking up most of his front yard. It was a very large and luxurious ocean going sail vessel. He had been building it for many years in his spare time and it was to be his retirement gift to himself. I had to admire it as I had been engaged in shipbuilding in my youth, and though I had no knowledge of the hull mechanics I was engaged in fitting out and knew the limitations required building such a craft.

Unfortunately when he finally retired and put it in the water he dropped dead a week later. It was to me a sad, sad thing that has stayed in my memory 30 years after the date.

Posted by: Rab 13th Mar 2015, 09:23pm

Great stories Ash and Billy!

Another one I 'made earlier' laugh.gif
HMS PEACOCK a Peacock class fast patrol boat for the RN Hong Kong Squadron in the 70s.
Specially built in Aberdeen for the tropics. First RN ship to be fitted with full air-conditioning and special stabliisers making her capable of weathering typhoons!

This one I made with rotating helicopter blades and radar, Morse code sounds and flashing signal lamps made it very realistic. I had an MP3 player with the Royal Marines band in the background.





Posted by: Dave Grieve 14th Mar 2015, 07:20am

QUOTE (billy Boil @ 13th Mar 2015, 02:19pm) *
This is the tale I can tell, about a guy near where I lived, I passed by his house frequently. Apparently he worked for the same Telco as I did and a lot of the technicians knew him and told me about the yacht taking up most of his front yard. It was a very large and luxurious ocean going sail vessel. He had been building it for many years in his spare time and it was to be his retirement gift to himself. I had to admire it as I had been engaged in shipbuilding in my youth, and though I had no knowledge of the hull mechanics I was engaged in fitting out and knew the limitations required building such a craft.

Unfortunately when he finally retired and put it in the water he dropped dead a week later. It was to me a sad, sad thing that has stayed in my memory 30 years after the date.


Nothing to do with hobbies Billy but your story reminded me that in the last days of the old Rhodesia there were more ocean going yachts being built in 'back yards' in that country than anywhere else in the world, the people building them had already decided it was time to move on and realising that there would be no value in the local currency after Independence built the yachts and then sailed them to the Caribbean where they would then be sold.

Fantastic models Rab. thumbup.gif

Posted by: Rab 14th Mar 2015, 11:02am

Another of my favourites (hope I am not boring you all!) - my 'Moonbeam' Class yacht which gathers crowds everywhere. Based on a pond yacht built in 1897 it is fitted with radio control for sails and steering and is a very graceful sailer. I have 2 as I like them so much! yes.gif I named her 'VANADIS' after the Norse goddess of beauty - I think you can see why!
It is 51 inches in length to give some idea of scale.


Posted by: serabash 14th Mar 2015, 12:10pm

she is beautiful rab.

Posted by: Rab 14th Mar 2015, 10:28pm

I even found a crew! biggrin.gif




Her sister-ship 'POSEIDON'


Posted by: Rab 1st Apr 2015, 09:05pm


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Apr 2015, 01:05am

QUOTE (Rab @ 14th Mar 2015, 11:19am) *
... (hope I am not boring you all!) - my 'Moonbeam' Class yacht which gathers crowds everywhere. Based on a pond yacht built in 1897 it is fitted with radio control for sails and steering and is a very graceful sailer. I have 2 as I like them so much! yes.gif I named her 'VANADIS' after the Norse goddess of beauty - I think you can see why ...

You carry on Rab wink.gif ... We'll let you know soon enuff laugh.gif

Posted by: Rab 2nd Apr 2015, 01:29pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 2nd Apr 2015, 02:22am) *
You carry on Rab wink.gif ... We'll let you know soon enuff laugh.gif


Sorry pal - canny help it! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rab 27th Apr 2015, 09:35pm

USS MISSOURI.