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Billy Boil Posted 1st Oct 2016, 09:07pm
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 30th Sep 2016, 09:21pm) *
Hello Billy Boil

I know you and I have had our differences but well done! It is good to know that people can come from a humble background but still do very well in life. Too often we hear that people from so called deprived areas have no chance in life. However, many people like yourself have shown that it can be done.

All the best

Danny

Attitude is a main reason for people being locked in boxes not of their own making. I have known those whom I grew up with in Govan having sad lives and low expectations due to being regarded as "losers" even by street locations. No father at home, mother working to keep body and soul together, never having any pocket money; I swear I knew kids who salted away a few pennies every week in toy shop clubs to buy themselves a present at Christmas.

Socialism (and I was a radical socialist for many years) never ever did anything for the marginalised. They and their minions were adept at pursuing the voting trends of the "enlightened middle classes" at the expense of the poor they so proudly trumpeted as their concern.

I watched Jeremy Corbyn hail his victory surrounded by his bourgeois acolytes singing the "RED FLAG!!!!' They saw themselves as socialists???? Scotland was "socialist" as long as I can remember and with the exception of the post war years ceased to be on the ascendancy to Westminster.

My motivation was never as a pensioner, to gaze in the shop windows as I did as a kid and seeing all that could never be mine. Politicians who extol the virtues of the poor and working class to me are Tories no matter the colour of their tie.

Statistics show that in U.K. if you are from a low socio -economic unemployed background, you will continue to be blessed with generational unemployment, low expectations and a shortened life span. And as there is little value in the votes of this over represented generation, politicians will seek their votes but will never exert themselves in their pursuit of the aspirations of such a disadvantage segment of what is the second largest economy in the EX E.U.
wombat Posted 30th Sep 2016, 11:38pm
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DannyH Posted 30th Sep 2016, 09:21pm
  Hello Billy Boil

I know you and I have had our differences but well done! It is good to know that people can come from a humble background but still do very well in life. Too often we hear that people from so called deprived areas have no chance in life. However, many people like yourself have shown that it can be done.

All the best

Danny
JAGZ1876 Posted 30th Sep 2016, 08:49am
 
QUOTE (Billy Boil @ 30th Sep 2016, 12:29am) *
I returned once to Scotland and saw little or no change. They will still be beating the big drums when they pass the Chapel and shouting "no surrender" long after my demise.


You must go out your way to find these drum beaters Billy, i have only came across one of these parades over the last twenty years, and their membership is dropping as they die off, and thankfully they will be even less of an irrelevance after independence.
Billy Boil Posted 29th Sep 2016, 11:29pm
 
QUOTE (Thomas @ 5th Jan 2016, 12:49am) *
I worked for a funeral firm in Glasgow and when someone applied for a job, if the 'school' attended answered with "Saint....A, B, C or Z" the application went into file bin! However, in another part of Glasgow, the 'competition' would not give a job to anyone who's school did not contain 'Saint....A, B, C or Z'.

Nowadays, both firms are part of a large corporate empire and they quite rightly employ Roman Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, other faiths and none.

What fit we kick with should have no bearing in our employment prospects or promotion prospects. It's a cancer that I hope will be eradicated from this country in due course but probably not in my lifetime!

I would not say bigotry in Scotland was a reason for me leaving, however dead end and unwanted employment, the jobs that were on offer because no one would take them except in desperation, was major factor in my departure.

I worked in several countries and was never made aware of my inferiority status as I was in Scotland. In Australia I was only ever asked I could do the job or had relevant qualifications. I have stated this before;
the worst element of Calvanistic bigotry, was the damage to self esteem. I honestly began to think that there was fault with myself. Subsequently my careers in Australia were positive to the point where is became an academic of some small note, had materials for education published in my name, and when I worked in communications was made supervision over a considerable amount of personnel 4 years into the employment term.

I and my wife finished up on retirement $ millionaires. at the beginning of the year after returning from an overseas holiday where I stayed in suites in luxury hotels, I bought a large black and chrome limousine, leather seats and all mod cons, satellite and voice control. (I surprised myself as I am not into that sort of thing).

I was born in Scotland and what I have related here is not an idle boast, simply serving to illustrate that I had no input from the land of my ancestors provided little in incentive to do what I eventually accomplished. When the shackles of discrimination were removed I was able to move on from the low self esteem and breath in unpolluted air.

I am in the last stages of my life and now when I think of home, Melbourne springs to mind more that any other place. I now live in the vicinity of Byron bay right on the Coral sea. I returned once to Scotland and saw little or no change. They will still be beating the big drums when they pass the Chapel and shouting "no surrender" long after my demise.
Dave Grieve Posted 22nd Sep 2016, 02:14pm
 
QUOTE (Billy Boil; @ 21st Sep 2016, 04:16pm) *
As one who was asked at every job application ( counted 147 over 6 months) I can answer that in a manner I have never employed on this forum. " Pure sectarian Bu;;%$#te."


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Billy Boil; Posted 21st Sep 2016, 02:16pm
 
QUOTE (Guest @ 10th Sep 2016, 11:26pm) *
Does it not occur to some posters that the question, "What school did you go to?" might also have been asked by prospective employers who were Roman Catholic?

As one who was asked at every job application (counted 147 over 6 months) I can answer that in a manner I have never employed on this forum. " Pure sectarian Bu;;%$#te."
ashfield Posted 11th Sep 2016, 07:42am
 
QUOTE (Guest @ 11th Sep 2016, 12:26am) *
Does it not occur to some posters that the question, "What school did you go to?" might also have been asked by prospective employers who were Roman Catholic?


Of course Guest, anything is possible. Perhaps you could join the boards, give us some examples of which you speak and we can continue the discussion.
Guest Posted 10th Sep 2016, 11:26pm
  Does it not occur to some posters that the question, "What school did you go to?" might also have been asked by prospective employers who were Roman Catholic?
Betsy2009 Posted 5th Jan 2016, 10:58am
  OK - I drove through Eton when I was having a look at Windsor Castle.
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