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> Is The Union Already Lost?, Referendum: 18th September 2014
Betsy2009
post 7th Jan 2014, 01:01am
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The article:
"The First Minister says, following separation, the SNP aims to provide 1,140 hours of free care a year for all children, from the age of one until they start school.

But critics point out the proposed overhaul to the system can be carried out now, using powers already available to Holyrood ministers under devolution.

And a YouGov poll published yesterday revealed nearly two-thirds of Scots believe any improvements should be introduced immediately.

But Mr Salmond insists his plan cannot be implemented under the current set-up as then the UK Government would benefit from increased tax revenue arising from thousands of Scots mothers he expects to return to work.

He said: “Under independence, that money would stay in Scotland to help to pay for the expansion of childcare on a sustainable basis.

“A rise in the number of women in work of just two per cent would boost tax revenues by 200million."

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/452249/Sc...-free-childcare
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Betsy2009
post 7th Jan 2014, 01:14am
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Angel, the people I mentioned had ordinary jobs carried out by ordinary people, doing the same jobs and getting the same wages. They were just other members of the teams rather than supported, although I've also known a couple of severely disabled people who were on supported schemes and/or work placement assistance type of thing.

You're right though. To see people with disabilities doing a day's work instead of sitting at home feeling sorry for themselves like some lazy gits on benefits great. That's not to say that there will obviously be other disabled people who really are unable to work.

I remember one girl who had to have carers to get her out of bed and dressed in the morning and the same going to bed at night. She was quite badly disabled but came to work every day and was in a fairly high paid job because she had such a good head on her shoulders. Put the rest of us to shame when we moaned about being tired in the morning because of a late night. It took her about 3 hours in the morning to get to work, including an hour's travel.

It really annoys me to see lazy people not working.
Having said that - I'm really glad that I'm retired now - so it's my turn to be lazy!
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post 7th Jan 2014, 05:37am
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[quote name='Betsy2009' date='7th Jan 2014, 01:18am' post='3651303']
The article:
"The First Minister says, following separation, the SNP aims to provide 1,140 hours of free care a year for all children, from the age of one until they start school.

1140 hours is 47 days. Can they take mine for july and the first 2 weeks of August? tongue.gif


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post 7th Jan 2014, 08:46am
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Is the union lost? The politics of the union seem to be quite popular on here, at least among the IDS fanclub...lazy scrounging disabled people, etc. The union was lost for me a long time ago. There's no Utopia, but we need a just society where the able and willing will look after the least able. There will always be those who play the system. There will always be those we term as disabled. Most if not all would happily trade their illness to be able to work. Only by voting YES can Scotland deliver a fairer society. Westminster will never deliver it or even attempt to. I have never supported the politics of the elitist few. They are the real takers of your tax penny. We have a chance to get out of their greedy grip. Take the chance. Vote YES.
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post 7th Jan 2014, 09:03am
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"A fairer society"?
The majority of people in England/Wales/NI want the same thing!
Who's to say that our politicians won't be as bad as the Westminster lot once they are in power.
We'll also still be ruled by the EU lot.
Are there any politicians out there who are worth their salt?
Will the new era include new rules re MSP salaries, expenses and jaunts abroad, etc?
How do we get good people to manage Scotland's finances?
Anyone out there want to the job?
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Dylan
post 7th Jan 2014, 09:08am
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DT,

Elitist and the greedy do not stop at Gretna ?


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DavidT
post 7th Jan 2014, 09:13am
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At present we have no power to stop them. Would you like the power to put an end to that style of government?
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post 7th Jan 2014, 09:18am
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Of course I would.

There are fair and reasonable people in Scotland and England and the Ballot Box , in the end,will emerge the winner.

I just hate the Politics of Nationalism.

We can be better together.!


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post 7th Jan 2014, 09:44am
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QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 6th Jan 2014, 11:06pm) *
Dearie me, Jagz. Still trying to use facts and logic with someone who has not reached the age of reason ? unsure.gif


Maybe one day the penny will drop bilbo unsure.gif
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post 7th Jan 2014, 09:46am
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QUOTE (john.mcn @ 6th Jan 2014, 11:20pm) *
though it probably wouldn't make any money as it's innovator Angus Og found out.

bet that brings back memories biggrin.gif


Ochone Ochone laugh.gif
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post 7th Jan 2014, 09:48am
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QUOTE (Betsy2009 @ 7th Jan 2014, 01:18am) *
But critics point out the proposed overhaul to the system can be carried out now, using powers already available to Holyrood ministers under devolution.

And a YouGov poll published yesterday revealed nearly two-thirds of Scots believe any improvements should be introduced immediately.


Once again Betsy, which other budgets would you cut from the block grant to pay for the childcare?
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post 7th Jan 2014, 09:52am
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QUOTE (Dylan @ 7th Jan 2014, 09:35am) *
I just hate the Politics of Nationalism.

We can be better together.!


But not the politics of right wing British nationalism, do you also hate Scotland's right to self determination?

How about giving a couple of examples of how we can be better together?
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Dylan
post 7th Jan 2014, 09:55am
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You always return to insults.

You are well aware I hate Right Win g Nationalism.

Other than malice, why would you say this ?


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Dylan
post 7th Jan 2014, 09:58am
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I defend any countries right to self determination. I am a Democrat and am expressing my right to comment.

That is what the Referendum is all about ?


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JAGZ1876
post 7th Jan 2014, 10:11am
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QUOTE (Dylan @ 7th Jan 2014, 10:12am) *
You always return to insults.

You are well aware I hate Right Win g Nationalism.

Other than malice, why would you say this ?


Where was the insult?
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