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> Scottish Independence, About voting yes/no
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bilbo.s
post 18th Jun 2017, 04:40pm
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post 18th Jun 2017, 04:41pm
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What a nerve, criticising Nicola Sturgeon for her anti- Brexit stance and accusing her of neglecting the good of the country. Not a word about Mad May and her Brexit crusade, which any sane person in UK or abroad knows is to the severe detriment of the country, whether one means Scotland or UK.


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post 18th Jun 2017, 07:52pm
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I don't envy Mrs Jagz job of washing those brown undergarments of yours. laugh.gif

We just want Sturgeon to cease using Indyref2 as a ploy to derail the Brexit process. The world and its wee ginger dug knows the flippin SNP position and we're fed up hearing it.

All of us Remainers are regretful, Bilbo, but let's wait and see what the two Unions can agree upon.

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If we examine the SNP position a little more closely it has changed. Unlike in the 1st referendum, this stance implies that Scotland has a feasible future in the UK, since it just might turn out that there are competent negotiators on both sides of Brexit who'll make the best of it, thereby paradoxically affirming 2014's No vote. Is that the possibility that's really keeping Mrs Jagz so busy?

What Scots don't want however, is one cessation closely followed by another. We don't want either, so we certainly don't want both.
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post 18th Jun 2017, 08:18pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 18th Jun 2017, 07:52pm) *
We just want Sturgeon to cease using Indyref2 as a ploy to derail the Brexit process. The world and its wee ginger dug knows the flippin SNP position and we're fed up hearing it.


heard a few times that the Tv gets switched over when she comes on, from sell out 'tours' and mass selfie walkabouts of 2 years ago to being unpopular among a lot of the population is good going wink.gif


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post 18th Jun 2017, 08:39pm
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In essence, this debate has gone on long enough.
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post 18th Jun 2017, 08:39pm
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And to think this idiot who did this put the video on his facebook page thinking it was OK to follow a woman into a restaurant, video her and call her Tory scum.

Is this fate to befall anyone who questions Wee Nic


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post 18th Jun 2017, 10:19pm
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THINK what ANOTHER divisive referendum would do to Scottish society. The ramifications are stark. You can multiply risks (such as this, John) by one hundred, for all the circumstances and reasons discussed.

The FM has brought this crisis in the Yes movement upon herself. She has much to consider...
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post 18th Jun 2017, 10:52pm
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The only thing wrong with Scottish society is that there are too many eejits like john.mcn and you around. sad.gif


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post 18th Jun 2017, 11:39pm
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Just as well you emigrated then aint it, theres one less one to worry about,

You really do not like people who dont vote the way you want do you..


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post 18th Jun 2017, 11:45pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 18th Jun 2017, 10:19pm) *
THINK what ANOTHER divisive referendum would do to Scottish society. The ramifications are stark. You can multiply risks (such as this, John) by one hundred, for all the circumstances and reasons discussed.

The FM has brought this crisis in the Yes movement upon herself. She has much to consider...


They could have done so much in Westminster but wasted their time. They had two years for instance to bring forward legislation for PR, they were in support of apparently up until they won a majority using the fptp, maybe once they are in the minority again they will support it, who knows.



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post 19th Jun 2017, 07:04am
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They could have done so much in Westminster but wasted their time. They had two years for instance to bring forward legislation for PR, they were in support of apparently up until they won a majority using the fptp, maybe once they are in the minority again they will support it, who knows.


Perhaps you can explain to us lesser mortals, how a party with 56 members out of 600+ can do any good. I seem to recall that any motion they put forward at Westminster was dismissed out-of-hand.
I am guessing you mean a majority of Scottish seats in WM. When did this become a minority? Dodgy arithmetic, or just wishful thinking?

Which of the myriad forms of PR do you advocate, or just one which gets rid of SNP?


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post 19th Jun 2017, 07:11am
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Just as well you emigrated then aint it, theres one less one to worry about,

You really do not like people who dont vote the way you want do you..


Your first statement makes absolutely no sense, but what's new?

Your second statement is untrue. I do not like people's voting differently from me. Do you?


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post 19th Jun 2017, 10:54am
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 18th Jun 2017, 08:52pm) *
I don't envy Mrs Jagz job of washing those brown undergarments of yours. laugh.gif


Unlike you kem i don't need anyone to do my laundry, and the only time my underpants get soiled is when i'm pissin' myself laughing at you and John doing anything but discussing the issue of the moment which is the Brexit talks which begin today, no wonder people are sick of listening about Indyref 2 as that's all you and John go on about, i'm sick of hearing you go on about it.
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post 19th Jun 2017, 01:23pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 19th Jun 2017, 12:54pm) *
Unlike you kem i don't need anyone to do my laundry, and the only time my underpants get soiled is when i'm pissin' myself laughing at you and John doing anything but discussing the issue of the moment which is the Brexit talks which begin today, no wonder people are sick of listening about Indyref 2 as that's all you and John go on about, i'm sick of hearing you go on about it.



Sounds like gutter talk to my sensitive ears, Jagz. sad.gif



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post 19th Jun 2017, 03:23pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 19th Jun 2017, 11:54am) *
Unlike you kem i don't need anyone to do my laundry, and the only time my underpants get soiled is when i'm pissin' myself laughing at you and John doing anything but discussing the issue of the moment which is the Brexit talks which begin today, no wonder people are sick of listening about Indyref 2 as that's all you and John go on about, i'm sick of hearing you go on about it.

I think we're on the same page, but you could just be towing the Party line. Nevertheless, if this debate ends and Brexit does indeed engage the nation, then I'm biggrin.gif with that.

Agreed?
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