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JAGZ1876 Posted Today, 08:25pm
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 14th Dec 2019, 04:49pm) *
Hello Carltonjock.

" I am trying hard not to be disrespectful towards you"

Danny


It never stopped you replying to me Danny. wink.gif
JAGZ1876 Posted Today, 08:22pm
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 14th Dec 2019, 03:40pm) *
Maybe you try that,most of your posts are puerile attempts at humour.
p.s. we are still in the EU and you are still a citizen of the UK for at least
another couple of years.


You should try humour DJ, so you admit we're still part of the UK, so you'll be a Luddite before we are? laugh.gif
DannyH Posted Today, 04:49pm
 
QUOTE (caltonjock @ 13th Dec 2019, 03:29pm) *
DannyH An answer to your concerns.


Establishing an Independent Scotland

Whitehall mandarins, Unionist politicians and their Luddite supporters will tell you it will be a long and torturous process over many years and it must be this way because the relationship Scotland has with the rest of the UK is too complex to untangle in a shorter period.

But if Czechoslovakia could be split up in six months in 1992, why should the process of establishing an independent Scotland be such a hardship?


https://caltonjock.com/2019/12/09/scottish-...d-be-well-able/

Hello Carltonjock.

I am trying hard not to be disrespectful towards you, but see this message you have posted in the first paragraph? Well this is one of the reasons that Labour got gubbed. The people in the North of England didn’t swallow the propaganda similar to what you have just posted. They voted on their own personal experiences. Just because some so called informed people keep spouting, doesn’t mean the public is swallowing it.

Your reference to Czechoslovakia is selective and a bad choice. It was one of the reasons that World War 2 started. The UK government and other European governments tried to appease Hitler by using Czechoslovakia as a bargaining chip to avoid war, but it back fired on them

Many Czechoslovakian citizens lined the streets to welcome the German troops. I saw this at a children’s Saturday afternoon matinee.

Then there was the break up of Yugoslavia. Remember Bosnia?

I am not arguing against another Independence referendum. It is the timing.
You cannot deal with two issues, Independence and departure from the EU simultaneously.

In my opinion, we get the severance from the EU dealt with first. Once we are out of the EU, then the issue of Independence can be addressed. As far as I am concerned, Nicola Sturgeon wants to disrupt the UK’s departure from the EU.

Danny
Dykejumper Posted Today, 03:40pm
  Maybe you try that,most of your posts are puerile attempts at humour.
p.s. we are still in the EU and you are still a citizen of the UK for at least
another couple of years.
JAGZ1876 Posted Today, 12:14pm
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 14th Dec 2019, 10:42am) *
The only Luddites are the SNP ,its they who want to smash the Union.


Say's the Luddite who smashed the EU.

You really should think before you post DJ. laugh.gif
wombat Posted Today, 11:50am
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 14th Dec 2019, 11:42am) *
The only Luddites are the SNP ,its they who want to smash the Union.


rolleyes.gif tuff titty laugh.gif
Dykejumper Posted Today, 10:42am
  The only Luddites are the SNP ,its they who want to smash the Union.
Kemedian Posted Today, 09:55am
  I don't know about Czechoslovakia, but perhaps there were clear dividing lines, less integration and with possibly less at stake then deals were easier to strike.

An equally important and far from answered question (though you wouldn't think so) is how closely integrated to the EU does Sturgeon want Scotland to be and how long after the process of leaving the UK will it take for Scotland to rejoin the EU?

Looks like at least 10 years before those questions can be answered. If I'm still taking an interest by then, I'd want Scotland to be a full member of the EU, but that's not as straight forward as some would have us believe. Plus, as part of the EU would an independent Scotland get a better trade deal with the UK (our closest and biggest partner) ?

Who knows.
caltonjock Posted Y'day, 03:29pm
  DannyH An answer to your concerns.


Establishing an Independent Scotland

Whitehall mandarins, Unionist politicians and their Luddite supporters will tell you it will be a long and torturous process over many years and it must be this way because the relationship Scotland has with the rest of the UK is too complex to untangle in a shorter period.

But if Czechoslovakia could be split up in six months in 1992, why should the process of establishing an independent Scotland be such a hardship?


https://caltonjock.com/2019/12/09/scottish-...d-be-well-able/
JAGZ1876 Posted Y'day, 02:48pm
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 13th Dec 2019, 12:04pm) *
Surely they SNP has to inform the Scottish people, what currency we will be using, what arrangements will be made regarding our armed forces. Will the Scottish Government be responsible for continuing the payment of State pensions? Or will it be the UK government continues with the payment of pensions

If Scotland becomes an independent country, isn’t it ironic, the driving force behind this achievement, finds it needs to be in the EU? I think the dictionary should redefine ‘Independence’.

Danny


Wow, it didn't take you long to get over the Westminster GE Danny, while us younger ones take a moment to catch our breaths you're off on the Indyref2 trail.

You voted YES in 2014, so you either knew the answers to these questions or you didn't care, so what was it?

I'd love to hear you telling the Germans, French, Italians, Swedes etc that their countries aren't independent. laugh.gif
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