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Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 2nd Oct 2009, 05:37pm

This Craziness MUST Stop.

Wifey came home and told me about this. We don't buy the Daily Record so I went on-line to have a read.

Quote from today's Daily Record (perhaps you read it yourself)....

QUOTE
Anger as prison thugs are awarded £2100 compensation - for saying guards hurt their feelings.

THREE vicious thugs who whined that prison guards hurt their feelings by putting them in solitary confinement are to be paid £2100 compensation each from the taxpayer.

UNBELIEVABLE

For the first time in my life I wish there was an uprising, an uprising against this PC lunacy.

It really has to stop, hasn't it?

Posted by: Rab 2nd Oct 2009, 07:59pm

'He told the Record: "I never gave up because I didn't want them to get away with what they did to me. They breached my human rights.'

What about his human responsibilities?

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 3rd Oct 2009, 05:48pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 2nd Oct 2009, 10:04pm) *
'He told the Record: "I never gave up because I didn't want them to get away with what they did to me. They breached my human rights.'

What about his human responsibilities?


Spot on Rab. sad.gif

Posted by: carmella 3rd Oct 2009, 06:19pm

You know my blood boils every time I hear this sort of thing.

Now in this case we are talking about prisoners.

They didn't stop to think about the human rights of their victims, did they?

Posted by: Guest 3rd Oct 2009, 07:12pm

And because we are talking about prisoners do we abdicate all responsibility and allow Her Majesty's Prison Service to operate without the checks and balances imposed by the rule of law?

It seems to me that could lead to the situation we saw in Stalin's Gulags.

Posted by: Heather 3rd Oct 2009, 07:42pm

Carmella, I agree with what you said. My husband and I said the same when we heard it on the news on Thursday night.

It would seem that criminals have more rights than their victims.

Once again the Government say they are bringing in Legislation to limit these claims to one year after the prisoners have been in isolation.
It would be better if the Government discarded this Human Rights Law, because the only one's who seem to profit from it are criminals and their Lawyers.

It was reported in the Record today that a serial burglar accused a Judge of giving him too long a sentence. The burglar was given 5 years and the Judge said: " Because you may harbour a grievance I'm prepared to reduce the sentence to 4 1/2 years". wub.gif

Posted by: Catherine 3rd Oct 2009, 07:52pm

No they didnae Carmella.....which is why they're in the Jail is it no biggrin.gif

Hate to be the one to say it in this instance because I really agree with everyone here...BUT..
Two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't see this as anything to do with PC, it's a Human Rights issue the way I see it, and if we're jailing those who violate this then those Guards should have known better.

Folks need to start practising what they're preaching, especially those in Authority.

Just my opinion biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Oct 2009, 12:06am

QUOTE (Catherine @ 3rd Oct 2009, 09:57pm) *
I don't see this as anything to do with PC, it's a Human Rights issue the way I see it,


Good thing to point out Catherine, so let me clarify things as I see it.


From my point of view, both PC and HR's brigade sit in the same box, they tick each others boxes. They exasperate the majority of today's society with their negative announcements. They are not, as they believe themselves to be doing, pronouncing positive statements that will effect society for the better.

Both brigades are a namby-pamby, negative effect, section of society. If it was within both their remit, each would have pressed, for example, the requirement to kill off the loving and innocent good old Gollywog doll that all children of my generation, along with the few of today's younger generation who managed to get a hold of one, enjoyed.
Not one child in their innocence in either generation (old or new) thought anything bad or negative regarding the Gollywog doll (that I'm using as an example) until it was brought to their attention.

Look in any playground of a mixed race school today and each child will be seen to play happily with each other not seeing any difference between either skin colour.....until it is brought to their attention.

Each "Brigade" shattered the innocence of today's generation. and brought about a negativity between skin colours.

I've never read, heard or spoken to anyone who accept both brigade's philosophy as being one of good on this earth. We did without them and enjoyed. We were innocent, and skin colour was exactly that, skin deep. And that was all it was.


Now that was not, repeat not, an attack against you Catherine. smile.gif



Here endeth the first lesson. biggrin.gif

Shalom.

Cash.

Posted by: Heather 4th Oct 2009, 02:49am

I don't see how ' two wrongs don't make a right' applies in this instance. In fact it's a silly thing to say.

If a person commits a crime and gets sent to Prison, then that is right.
If while they are in Prison they cause further trouble and attack Prison Wardens then get put into Solitary Confinement, then that is also right.

Do you think they should be given 100 lines instead: I must learn to behave myself.
That would teach them a lesson, wouldn't it. Aye right.
But then of course they could seek compensation for writers cramp.

Posted by: Catherine 4th Oct 2009, 03:51am

Thanks Cash...and thank you for highlighting yer no cuttin me aff laugh.gif

I agree with many of your points..in fact them all...up to a point.

The point changes for me per say when we are still 'golliwogin' the issue..when the Gollowog issue has become derogatory in todays world.
The Grandparents of Black descent did not have a voice, their Grandchildren sure do, and they speak for the Grandparents along with themselves when they take offence.

Fair enough.

Was the Golliwog meant as offensive? No..I don't think so...but now that it's pointed out how much it offends it's no big deal for me to say Hey Sorry..no offence meant..remove it and move on having learned a bit more sensitivity towards another Human Being.
There is no big deal here.....I never even hud wan!

Heather I only try to join in on Discussions with my own perception of how I see it.
No need to say 'it's silly'...I think that's rude...but having said that I get it that you're just answering the Reply in the moment so to speak.
No offence meant.

Just my opinion. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Catherine 4th Oct 2009, 03:51am

Cripes sorree...jist wan of those double Postings....nae point in ye readin ma tripe twice laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: penny dainty 4th Oct 2009, 06:47am

commit the crime , do the time and dont expect it gift wrapped.What do these people want eh?

Posted by: Guest 4th Oct 2009, 09:50am

I wonder if this Board could be described as politically correct as its first rule is:

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Do not post messages which are racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionable.

Would we all be allowed to post our favourite racist jokes on this board, for example?

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Oct 2009, 03:59pm

QUOTE (Guest @ 4th Oct 2009, 11:55am) *
I wonder if this Board could be described as politically correct as its first rule is:
Would we all be allowed to post our favourite racist jokes on this board, for example?


Do you have any favourite racist jokes?

I would have thought a lot more of you if you had come right out and stated; This Board is a "Politically Correct" Board.

You know very well why GGDB have to cover themselves by issuing rules, particularly the one you allude to in your statement.

Cash.



Posted by: Jim D 4th Oct 2009, 07:49pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 2nd Oct 2009, 07:42pm) *
This Craziness MUST Stop.

Wifey came home and told me about this. We don't buy the Daily Record so I went on-line to have a read.

Quote from today's Daily Record (perhaps you read it yourself)....
QUOTE
Anger as prison thugs are awarded £2100 compensation - for saying guards hurt their feelings.

THREE vicious thugs who whined that prison guards hurt their feelings by putting them in solitary confinement are to be paid £2100 compensation each from the taxpayer.

UNBELIEVABLE

For the first time in my life I wish there was an uprising, an uprising against this PC lunacy.

It really has to stop, hasn't it?

The compensation has not been paid because the prison service believe they are in the wrong. It was paid out because it is cheaper to pay £2100 than spend 10 times that fighting the case through the courts. The SPS would require to defend the action and pay their costs. On the other hand, the prisoner can apply for Legal Aid and his costs would be met by the Legal Aid Board. It was published recently that the Legal aid bill in Scotland for 2008 was £150,000,000! a saving of £5,000,000 from 2007!

Posted by: Jim D 4th Oct 2009, 08:18pm

QUOTE (Heather @ 3rd Oct 2009, 09:47pm) *
It was reported in the Record today that a serial burglar accused a Judge of giving him too long a sentence. The burglar was given 5 years and the Judge said: " Because you may harbour a grievance I'm prepared to reduce the sentence to 4 1/2 years". wub.gif


It is now law that any person who pleads guilty prior to his / her trial must be given a discount on the sentence that would have been given had they taken it to a trial and been found guilty. This includes being given a discount for pleading on the day of the trial and saving the witnesses the ordeal of giving evidence and using up even more court time. It's a sliding scale. A bit like the money you pay for cancelling a holiday. The earlier you cancel, the more money you get back. Well with them - the earlier you plead guilty, the bigger the discount. The discount can be as much as 25-30%.

Posted by: Guest 4th Oct 2009, 08:19pm

CMG,

QUOTE
Do you have any favourite racist jokes?

I neither tell racist jokes nor allow them to be told in my presence. I will gladly be described as politically correct because of that.

Posted by: petalpeeps 5th Oct 2009, 12:55pm

Many people have their feelings hurt on a daily basis , who do we sue? The saying that 'crime doesn't pay' seems to need updating to 'crime does pay' . Unfortunately that is the society we are living in nowadays , big changes needed , long overdue.

Posted by: Rabbie 5th Oct 2009, 01:10pm

Dinnea get me started on the PC Brigade.

I wid stick them all in portacabin loos, place them in the middle of a windswept, barren airfield and use them for flour bombing target practice, and that goes fur shiney ersed cooncil pen pushers that are a waste of mah cooncil tax.

Right, thats me pit the wurld tae rights again.

Honestly, I am a pasifist and agree with everything that new labour does and I think that Good Auld Gordy is a spiffingly good chasp.



Posted by: klingon 6th Oct 2009, 01:19am

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 5th Oct 2009, 03:15pm) *
Dinnea get me started on the PC Brigade.

I wid stick them all in portacabin loos, place them in the middle of a windswept, barren airfield and use them for flour bombing target practice, and that goes fur shiney ersed cooncil pen pushers that are a waste of mah cooncil tax.

Right, thats me pit the wurld tae rights again.

Honestly, I am a pasifist and agree with everything that new labour does and I think that Good Auld Gordy is a spiffingly good chasp.

Thats a waste of flour Rabbie!-use shite-it's free! and theres tons of it!

Posted by: 27stowst 6th Oct 2009, 07:48pm

Don't get me started or ah'll sue the lot o' yez fer annoying me oan ma ain puta in ma ain living room!!! tongue.gif Oh and ah agree wi Klingon aboot the shite! (Am ah allowed tae use that word?) unsure.gif

Posted by: Heather 6th Oct 2009, 07:51pm

NAW laugh.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 6th Oct 2009, 08:18pm

Wid that no be complete waste of perfectly good organic fertlizer.

=D

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 6th Oct 2009, 10:06pm

If you don't get ... "Rabbie use ***un-allowed word*** it's free" ...
Then it must be OK. tongue.gif
I guess Shi-ite is ok too biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 7th Oct 2009, 12:34pm

Now it's the 'Elf and Safety brigade's turn go bananas (again)


After 10 years as a Lollipop man, Mr John Hunter, a former council roads maintenance inspector says "After 40 years working for the council, I've resigned from my job as a Lollipop man in Edinburgh.

He is loved by parents and children alike according to reports, and as the children form a queue on the pavement he hands out sweets and gives them a high five. Apparently one parent complained that Mr Hunter had given a pupil with a nut allergy a nutty chocolate by mistake. That complaint is reasonable given the circumstances of course. But says Mr Hunter, "It's the first complaint I've had in working with the council for 40 years, but now I'm suddenly a danger to children for giving them sweets and a high five."

Sweets with nuts I can understand, but a high five, approved by the parents, a danger to children on the pavement rolleyes.gif

PC, HR, H&S were reasonable and fair minded organizations with good intention to begin with, but any respect they once had is diminishing by the day.

Posted by: 27stowst 7th Oct 2009, 09:27pm

Honestly, could she no' jist huv said "Look Mr Hunter, ah know ye didnae know but there are some weans that are allergic tae nuts and ma son is wan o' them. Could ye be a bit merr cerrful in future? Ta" An' then if he ignored her request that wid be the time tae report him!! (Ah'm assuming the wean wiz ok??)

Posted by: 27stowst 7th Oct 2009, 09:30pm

Sorry, just realised it would be a different eccent for an Embru wumman!! tongue.gif

Posted by: Heather 7th Oct 2009, 09:56pm

I don't know anyone who has any respect for the PC Brigade.

This Country has survived for centuries without them.

Who are they anyway and what good have they ever done ??? wacko.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 7th Oct 2009, 10:05pm

QUOTE (27stowst @ 7th Oct 2009, 11:35pm) *
Sorry, just realised it would be a different eccent for an Embru wumman!!


away ye go. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 7th Oct 2009, 10:08pm

Since politicians rarely get it right there can be no such thing as Politically Correct; or correctness.

A more meaningful term should be suggested.
On that note I can now place my vote.

Posted by: Rabbie 7th Oct 2009, 10:21pm

Only wimen go intae Labour, and ah heard that hurts..

So bugger that option.


Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 7th Oct 2009, 10:27pm

QUOTE (27stowst @ 7th Oct 2009, 11:32pm) *
Honestly, could she no' jist huv said "Look Mr Hunter, ah know ye didnae know but there are some weans that are allergic tae nuts and ma son is wan o' them. Could ye be a bit merr cerrful in future? Ta" An' then if he ignored her request that wid be the time tae report him!! (Ah'm assuming the wean wiz ok??)

Perfect sense stowst, why could she not just have quietly said that to the poor guy.



QUOTE (27stowst @ 7th Oct 2009, 11:35pm) *
Sorry, just realised it would be a different eccent for an Embru wumman!!

End a Corstorphine one at thet dear girl.



QUOTE (Heather @ 8th Oct 2009, 12:01am) *
I don't know anyone who has any respect for the PC Brigade.
This Country has survived for centuries without them.
Who are they anyway and what good have they ever done ???

Exactly Heather, just who are these people? they never reveal themselves. Perhaps it would simply not be PC to reveal themselves, what.



QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 8th Oct 2009, 12:13am) *
A more meaningful term should be suggested.
On that note I can now place my vote.

Can always rely on you TeeHeeHee to come up with the perfect answer. biggrin.gif

Posted by: 27stowst 7th Oct 2009, 11:25pm

laugh.gif laugh.gif @ Rabbie.

Posted by: Catherine 7th Oct 2009, 11:44pm

Has anyone ever seen a Child with a Nut Reaction react when they're mistakenly given one?
I have....it is HORRENDOUS for the Child, their Eyes Bulge and roll back, their tongue swells and they gasp for breath.
Nuts can KILL Children who are allergic to them....Adults also.

Our boys School is a Nut Free Zone......there are posters outside those Classrooms that have Children with Deadly Reactions to Nuts inside them.
With a deadly reaction it means even the oil from the Peanut that is not even visible can kill them if touched.

Sorry Stowst, perhaps the Mum was a wee bit too horrified and scared with what COULD have happened to quietly on the side say to the Lollipop guy gaunni no dae that pal!
The Woman wis freaked...her Child could have died!

Lollipop mans a big boy, he should be acting like one and saying cripes never even gave that a thought, awfy sorry an ah'll make sure it's Nut Free sweets fae noo on pet.
I'm sure the Mans a good man and loves the kids...but he's lucky the wean never ate the sweet or it wouldnae be jist the huff he's in........he could have the guilt of an accidental death on his hands.

This was an accident, well meaning but everybody if they don't know SHOULD know that Nut Reactions are prevalent in todays World.

Och naw....on second thoughts, kin we no jist blame it on the PC Brigade....aye...moan...easy targets.

What exactly has anything Politically Correct got to do with this ?


Just my opinion.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Oct 2009, 12:48am

I've never reacted to nuts, Catherine; not the ones you're on about here, but I've always hated that strange feeling at the back of my throat when I've eaten peanuts. especially and maybe too many cashews or whatever.
Was my immune system sending me overload signals?

Posted by: Catherine 8th Oct 2009, 01:25am

Maybe THH......I don't really know the why's or what's or hows about how Today's Society have picked up this Allergy.
Someone once explained it in Laymens Terms to me that it is because it is so widely used in so many Products that eventually there becomes a reaction to it.

The bottom line is it is DEADLY to many.

I feel for this Man who has proudly done a great job over the years, but at the same time his huffy reaction to criticism is a bit ridiculous, ESPECIALLY since it relates to his great love with the kids.
If I knew him I'd say it's okay, nobody is disputing the fact that you are GREAT for these kids....but you have to be careful.
Ce la vie.......If we aw jumped on the huff wagon the first criticism we had on a job , especailly after forty years, then we're talking Pride comes before the fall.

This isnae about the Lollipop man, and he's auld enough that he should get it........it's about a narrow escape.
He should be glad of the wake up call.

As for yourself THH, I know nothing about it, but Id be careful.
Maybe it's like Wasp Stings..the more you have the deadlier it can become?

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Oct 2009, 01:37am

Thanks Catherine.
I'm with you on the stings.
They also don't effect me too much but I know what they can do to others.
You're right about the Lollypop man though. No matter how good he is, or how experienced, he didn't know that and should have reckoned that that was a close call when it was pointed out to him instead of going off about it.
To my mind he was being more than just huffy.

Posted by: Catherine 8th Oct 2009, 01:52am

Thanks THH.....Hate tae tell ye and hope it disnae offend ye, {though in reading your Posts somehow I don't think it will} but ye'v jist agreed wae someone who doesn't always agree with PC Parliamo, but tries to understand the bigger picture it tries to represent and is more for than against laugh.gif

I have respect for the PC Brigade Heather, I don't always agree with them.........but I admire their 'try' of accomodating across the board ideals.
Hopefully this doesn't come as a shock to yourself and others, if it does then I have to step up to the plate a bit more.

There's room for change in us all, so the saying goes. biggrin.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Oct 2009, 02:02am

Catherine, I can be wound-up ... go on, try me, tongue.gif ... but my days of being offended are long long gone since I learned that one either takes offence or doesn't ... so I don't.
By the way , it was Mary taught me that. Int she clever?

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 8th Oct 2009, 08:44pm

QUOTE (Catherine @ 8th Oct 2009, 03:30am) *
<cut>but at the same time his huffy reaction to criticism is a bit ridiculous, <cut>

I took a different take on it Catherine. He acknowledged he made a mistake with the nutty bar, and hopefully he recognized it was a very close call.

I must own up and say, plonker that I am, and in my ignorance, the nut allergy reaction has never entered my head when I hand my grandchildren and their little friends sweet's. So there's a positive outcome from all of this by highlighting "nut allergy awareness", and hopefully raises awareness to others like me.

It was the high five that threw him. The parents accepted the high five was a sign of friendship between him and the children. It the was the high five reaction from the council he couldn't understand.

Perhaps it was the final straw for him as far as the 'Elf and Safety" are concerned.

Latest I heard is that local politicians are asking the council to re-think its decision, and Councillor Ricky Henderson, Labour's education spokesman said "I think they have taken it a bit too far"

Don't think this might be a criticism against you, I promise you it isn't.

Shalom smile.gif

Posted by: Guest 8th Oct 2009, 08:57pm

QUOTE
It was the high five that threw him.

Where does it say that?

Posted by: Heather 8th Oct 2009, 08:58pm

I think it went a bit too far with the Lollipop man and the Council over re-acted with the high fives.

This tells us about nut allergy.

Nut allergy can produce:

A tingling feeling in the lips or mouth
An itchy nettlerash (urticaria, hives), either where the nuts touch you, or elsewhere
Swelling (angioedema), either where the nuts touch you, or elsewhere
Swelling in the throat, causing difficulty in swallowing or breathing
Asthma symptoms
Vomiting
Cramping tummy pains
Diarrhoea
Faintness and unconsciousness
Death due to obstruction to breathing or more rarely extreme low blood pressure (anaphylactic shock)

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 8th Oct 2009, 09:18pm

QUOTE (Heather @ 8th Oct 2009, 11:03pm) *
I think it went a bit too far with the Lollipop man and the Council over re-acted with the high fives.

This tells us about nut allergy.

Nut allergy can produce:

A tingling feeling in the lips or mouth
An itchy nettlerash (urticaria, hives), either where the nuts touch you, or elsewhere
Swelling (angioedema), either where the nuts touch you, or elsewhere
Swelling in the throat, causing difficulty in swallowing or breathing
Asthma symptoms
Vomiting
Cramping tummy pains
Diarrhoea
Faintness and unconsciousness
Death due to obstruction to breathing or more rarely extreme low blood pressure (anaphylactic shock)


Thanks Heather, your post is an excellent piece of ecucation for me.

Posted by: Jim D 8th Oct 2009, 09:58pm

I was involved with my sons school for many years, including being chairman of the school board (school committee). If a school had any children who had a peanut allergy the staff would declare the school a "nut free zone". That involved teachers, parents, kitchen staff - the works! The staff would be trained in administering the "epi-pen" in the event that the child went into anaphylactic shock. The pens were kept separately in a central place for easy access. Kids were not allowed to bring sweets into school, just incase they contained traces of nuts. I would have expected the lollipop man to have been made fully aware.
If a child goes into anaphylactic shock they deteriorate very quickly. So I can understand the parent but I can also sympathise with the lollipop man, who has not been made aware of the dangers of giving the kids sweets.

Posted by: Catherine 9th Oct 2009, 03:27am

Hi guys,

Over here, kids have their Epi pens in the class, and also spare Epi Pens in the Office.
Jim it is rampant for want of a better word in the schools here, most Schools are Nut Free Zones.

To be quite honest if it is a known fact in Scotland about the same {Nut Allergy} then I personally find it shocking that this Lollipop Man was not made aware of it through the nature of his job alone far less his being off the School grounds.
That said, the more it is spoken of the more the info gets out there.
That's the Positive and it's great.

Cash I agree....the High five seems to be an add on, but Id like to think it was more the sweetie exchange than anything and how lucky was THAT brigade that pays the Lollipop man, they're jist trying to flannel with more add ons and hope to hide the fact they screwed up with a MAJOR....and don't have a bigger negligence issue on their hands.
Must be Friday your side...Shalom Shabbat biggrin.gif

Posted by: murn 9th Oct 2009, 04:46am

For ten years children have queued for his high-fives. It was only on his Birthday and Christmas that he would give them a chocolate.

As this has been happening for ten years and with what I have read, everyone in the area knows this friendly man. So I tend to think that this parent is new to the area. It does not say how old the child was but if it was me I would have ingrained it in them to just say no thank you. And then let me know so I could explain to the person about the allergy.

There was no need for the complaint, the deed was done, all that was needed was to make the lolly pop man aware of the dangers of nuts to some. I am even sure this kind old man would have went out of his way to start buying nut-free candy.

The complaint of the high fives also came from the same woman. Not only has she ruined it for the other kids she has perhaps taken away an old mans only happy moments of the day.

One mother said: "He is warm and friendly to all the children, and even remembers their birthdays and gives them cards. He also attends school concerts and so on"

"Mr Hunter has done what he does for years and the children all think he is great. It is such a shame that it takes one parent to complain to spoil the enjoyment of the children."


QUOTE
Sorry Stowst, perhaps the Mum was a wee bit too horrified and scared with what COULD have happened to quietly on the side say to the Lollipop guy gaunni no dae that pal!
The Woman wis freaked...her Child could have died!


Sorry Catherine, bit where did you read the woman wis freaked. From what I have read it tells you nothing of this woman I don't even think the other parents know who it is. I tend to think there is a bit more to this story than what is being told, Why on earth would she also complain about the high fives huh.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 9th Oct 2009, 10:22am

The reports I've read murn, all say the woman complained that a child, not her child was offered a nutty bar. Niether have I read anywhere that the child involved actually did have a nut allergy, we are left to assume the child had a nut allergy.

Like yourself, I think there's more to this story. It'll be interesting if the press follow this story up.

Posted by: ashfield 9th Oct 2009, 10:25am

It looks like we have another topic that has nothing to do with it's title. CMG, I am surprised that you don't know why the "gollywogs" were removed, they were used to caricature black people and then was used as as term of abuse towards them. I read the term "PC brigade" and it reminds me of references in posts on other threads like "power-that-be", "bleeding hearts" or "do-gooders" but I have said enough about that in the past. Let's look at what PC is,

political correctness - avoidance of expressions or actions that can be perceived to exclude or marginalize or insult people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against

I don't see what any of that has to do with Mr Hunter, whether his treatment was fair or not. If anyone is saying that they are not PC then are they saying it is ok to make racist comments, acceptable to use discriminating language towards people with disabilities, that older people should be denied work opportunities because of their age or that it is fine if woman get paid less than men for doing the same work?? I am (what Rabbie describes as) an ex-shiney ersed cooncil employee and I have witnessed how some people have used political incorrectness as a means of exerting power over others. I still see inappropriate references being made on the boards but I don't think for a minute that the intention is to offend but rather that the authors are uninformed.

Posted by: murn 9th Oct 2009, 10:50am

Ashfield I think you will see if you look at CMGs post that in the case of Mr. Hunter he was referring to "Elf and Safety brigade"

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 7th Oct 2009, 08:39am) *
Now it's the 'Elf and Safety brigade's turn go bananas (again)

PC, HR, H&S were reasonable and fair minded organizations with good intention to begin with, but any respect they once had is diminishing by the day.


Posted by: ashfield 9th Oct 2009, 02:12pm

QUOTE (murn @ 9th Oct 2009, 12:55pm) *
Ashfield I think you will see if you look at CMGs post that in the case of Mr. Hunter he was referring to "Elf and Safety brigade"


Doh!! Thanks Murn, I can see that the Mr Hunter issue was something different, my apologies. Having said that the prison issue is nothing to do with PC and generally I think the concept is more actively positive than negative and has changed things for the better.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 9th Oct 2009, 07:19pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 9th Oct 2009, 04:17pm) *
<cut> the prison issue is nothing to do with PC and generally I think the concept is more actively positive than negative and has changed things for the better.

Hiya ashfield,

If you go http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/Pc-Brigade-Bananas-t17385.html
You'll see my reply to Catherine who also said it had nothing to do with PC.

You will see I further mentioned the following in http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/Pc-Brigade-Bananas-t17385.html&st=15
PC, HR, H&S were reasonable and fair minded organizations with good intention to begin with, but any respect they once had is diminishing by the day.


QUOTE (Catherine @ 9th Oct 2009, 04:32am) *
Must be Friday your side...Shalom Shabbat

Shalom Catherine biggrin.gif but if you meant Sabbat ohmy.gif lol






Posted by: Dylan 9th Oct 2009, 07:51pm

My first reaction on reading this article was that it was a bit OTT.

Never gave the Nut thingy a thought but now I am better educated in this matter and I will be very carefull in future with my Grandchildrens Friends.

The High Five is a bit of a red herring.!

He appears to be just a nice guy who likes children.

I understand he was not fired but took the pet. ?

Pity.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 9th Oct 2009, 07:58pm

Mail Headline...Brucie blasts the PC brigade in Strictly race row.

Old hoofer Brucie (Forsyth) was at war with the BBC last night after he refused to apologise for dismissing the word P**i (see, I'm being respectful) as a nickname.

Dearie dearie me, I don't know how many times I've been called a "Baldy Jock" down in England but I just laugh back at the eejits. Funny thing is they just laugh back.
Well I am a baldy Jock. laugh.gif

What should have been uttered to me was "Smooth Craniumed Scottish Personage Adorned With The Traditional Scottish Kilt Of His Specific Clan.

If it offended me, I'd probably join the furtherance of the Politically Correct Education Society so that I could sue them. It would help pay for my return flight ticket, and a wee hawf intae the bargain.

Posted by: ashfield 10th Oct 2009, 08:44am

CMG, it's a pity you didin't wait for the late newspapers yesterday when Brucie was forced to apologies and acknowledge that the term used by A De B was derogatory. Well I suppose if he can learn anyone can rolleyes.gif I don't think your compariso of terms works either, as a semi-baldy jock. I wouldn't take offence either. The other word is a pernicious term of derision. Can I also say that my earlier post was not drected at you but to try and redress the balance of mainly negative posts that have benn made here.

Posted by: Catherine 11th Oct 2009, 04:50am

..And for that I thank you Ash.....ahv been swingin in the wind an it gets awfy lonely an scary tryin tae bat the baw back an forth an stay oan the Court an in atween the lines so tae speak laugh.gif

Least ahm no masel noo in the Polls, ah'll thank the person there annaw.....talk aboot a walkin target , then again ahm a helluva Wummin daen a helluva joab in ma ain wee world...jist humour me laugh.gif


Posted by: Catherine 11th Oct 2009, 04:59am

Cash...Nae Witchcraft intended laugh.gif ....ah jist meant enjoy yer dinner with Peace and surrounding love biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 12th Oct 2009, 02:00pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 10th Oct 2009, 10:49am) *
CMG, it's a pity you didin't wait for the late newspapers yesterday when Brucie was forced to apologies and acknowledge that the term used by A De B was derogatory.

Blackmailed you mean, Ooops I can't say that. Ermm, you mean he was threatened with the sack if he didn't apologise.


QUOTE (ashfield @ 9th Oct 2009, 12:30pm) *
CMG, I am surprised that you don't know why the "gollywogs" were removed, <cut>

Didn't say that ashfield.


QUOTE (ashfield @ 10th Oct 2009, 10:49am) *
<cut> I don't think your compariso of terms works either,

Don't kid yourself ashfield, I didn't include the manner in which I was shouted at, neither did I include the first word used by those eejits...."you f.... baldy jock".
Some poor chaps are extremely sensitive regarding their loss of hair and for them that phrase would have been terribly offensive and derogatory to them, so the comparison does work.


QUOTE (ashfield @ 10th Oct 2009, 10:49am) *
The other word is a pernicious term of derision.

Pernicious! what's more offensive to some people, a subtle remark,or a full blown no mistaking remark.


QUOTE (ashfield @ 10th Oct 2009, 10:49am) *
<cut>
Can I also say that my earlier post was not drected at you but to try and redress the balance of mainly negative posts that have benn made here.

You know it's a true saying, "The reader of the written word is unaware of the attitude behind the writer of the written word", and the same must be said regarding this post, so dinnae worry.
btw I'm a complete baldy, chrome dome, shiny top.


QUOTE (Dylan @ 9th Oct 2009, 09:56pm) *
I understand he was not fired but took the pet. ?
Pity.

You know dylan, I haven't read or heard he took the pet or went in a huff, are you sure people just assumed he did.


QUOTE (Guest @ 4th Oct 2009, 10:24pm) *
CMG,
I neither tell racist jokes nor allow them to be told in my presence. I will gladly be described as politically correct because of that.

Most humble and sincere apologies.
When you posed the question = "Would we all be allowed to post our favourite racist jokes on this board, for example?"
I naturally assumed you included yourself in that remark, and myself come to think of it. As a matter of fact are you accusing me of being a racist and a teller of racist jokes?


QUOTE (Catherine @ 11th Oct 2009, 07:04am) *
Cash...ah jist meant enjoy yer dinner with Peace and surrounding love

laugh.gif And we did too.

Shalom an' peace tae wan an' awe.



Posted by: murn 12th Oct 2009, 02:23pm

QUOTE (Catherine @ 11th Oct 2009, 12:55am) *
..And for that I thank you Ash.....ahv been swingin in the wind an it gets awfy lonely an scary tryin tae bat the baw back an forth an stay oan the Court an in atween the lines so tae speak


Know jist how yee feel rolleyes.gif try a baseball bat wink.gif

Posted by: ashfield 12th Oct 2009, 06:22pm

Cash, thanks for the reply.

I was quite well aware that Mr F would have reversed his thinking on the "advice" of his advisors at the Beeb, nevertheless, he did and that was a recognition that the original remark was inappropriate.

In relation to the removal of "gollywogs", you used it in your example of "the namby-pamby, negative effect, PC brigade" and if you understood why it was removed then I am surprised you used it as an example. It this instance you refer to the "innocence of childhood", spot on. The problems occur when that innocence is destroyed by bigots and racists who impose their values on the children.

As for the third point, the whole context is changed with the additional word. The original remark is the sort of thing that can either be said in jest or as an insult. The new context with the expletive is not funny in any shape of form and this is, in my view, racist abuse (as it would be used in relation to any other Nationality). I understand you saying that you did not take offence but that is not the issue, it is the intention of the person uttering the remark that's important.

I used the word "pernicious" meaning "to cause great harm, destructive". You are right, sometimes it is obvious as in the shouted insult and other times it can be done in a more insidious manner, but the damage it causes is no less painful to those on the receiving end. I have recently been sent a chain email containing a story purporting to be a true account of an Iraqi women arguing with a shop assistant wearing a St Andrew's Cross lapel badge( I will not go into details but if it comes your way I suggest hitting the delete button). It did not take a Sherlock Holmes to work out that this was a piece of fiction or from where it probably originated. Some might be taken in and that's how the damage is done.

Posted by: murn 12th Oct 2009, 10:28pm

jist a wee list

Broken Home - Replaced by Dysfunctional family.

Bum - Replaced by Homeless Person.Calling a person a "Bum" implies that the person is a moocher that is too lazy to get a job. Referring to him as a "Homeless Person" removes this stigma, and implies that he would be a perfectly normal citizen if only the government would give him a house.

Crazy - Replaced by the term Mental Illness. And, since it is an illness, it may be treated in the same manner as other diseases - with drugs. Of course, this idea is nothing new ... people have been using drugs to treat depression for centuries.

Criminal - Replaced by behaviorally challenged. This is one change that makes sense. A lot of the people in prisons today are not really "criminals" in the classic sense. Thanks to the "War on Drugs", there are a lot of people in jail because they failed to "behave" properly.

Eastern (As when used when discussing Asian Culture) - Too Eurocentric. Instead, use Africa as your frame of reference. When discussing European culture you should now use the phase "Northern", and when discussing Asia use the phrase "North-Eastern". Now isn't that better?

Factory - Replaced by Plant. The word Factory is a place where mistreated laborers toil long hours to produce pollution that billows forth from gigantic smokestacks. The word Plant is preferred since it is more difficult for this term to carry a negative connotation since this term is also used to describe nature. Its counterpart noun describes plant life (Plants, as in flowers, shrubs, etc). And the Verb form, to plant, is the process of lovingly placing a seed in the ground so it may one day grow into a mighty oak. Who can complain about having a new plant in their backyard?

Failure - Replaced by Deferred Success.

Fairy - Homophobic. Replaced by Petite airborne humanoid which possesses magical powers. The term fairy should be avoided when discussing these mythical beings, regardless of how gay they may appear.

Fat - Replaced by Enlarged physical condition caused by a completely natural genetically-induced hormone imbalance. Of course, this is very difficult to say in one breath-- so people will find it easier to not say it at all. The term "fat" is simply too short and to direct. It all too clearly points out that the reason that an obese person's skin appears so swollen is because it is being buttressed by large amounts of... well... Fat.

Foreign Food - Replaced by Ethnic Cuisine. The word foreign is generally used when one wishes to refer to something that alien to ones own country -- something that is not normally found within the jurisdiction of your own particular political unit. But with the increasing power of multinational organizations (such as the U.N. and large corporations), nothing can be said to be truly 'foreign' anymore. In a world where you can find a McDonald's in Moscow, a Disneyland in Japan, or a single currency throughout Europe, the word 'Foreign' is losing its meaning.
The word 'ethnic' provides a more accurate way to refer to these cultural traits which are continually growing fainter as we move away from the world of the past, in which different areas of the world were actually unique.

Founding Fathers - Too Sexist. Instead, use the term The Founders. We wouldn't want to exclude all those great female leaders of 18th century America would we?

Garbage Man - Replaced by Sanitation Engineer – A Garbage Man picks up garbage. A Sanitation Engineer engineers it.

Ghetto - Replaced by Economically disadvantaged area. This term is used by politicians who believe money from the Government would solve their problems.

Girlfriend/Wife - Replaced by Unpaid sex worker laugh.gif

Handicapped - Replaced by Physically Challenged, or even worse, handicapable

Housewife - Replaced by Domestic Engineer. This is to remove the necessity of marriage from the task of raising children.

Illegal Aliens – Replaced by Undocumented Immigrants. The phrase ‘Illegal Aliens’ implies that these people are a bunch of law-breaking creatures from outer space, while ‘Undocumented Immigrants’ suggests that they are good old-fashioned immigrants that simply have not gone through the hassle of being ‘documented’ yet.

Janitor - Replaced by Custodial Artist. No matter what you call it, this is a person who is paid to clean up shit.

Jungle - Replaced by Rainforest. A Rainforest is a happy place where Disney characters dance and sing ... a jungle is a scary place with lions, tigers, malaria and natives that want to cut off your head and boil it for dinner... who in their right mind would want to save that!?!

Man’s Job and Woman’s Work - Replaced by Traditional Gender Role. These are basic practices that are followed in one form or another by most of the life forms on this planet, and have been part of human culture for thousands of years… and as with most other ‘traditions’, a lot of people believe that it is time for a change.

Midget - Replaced by Vertically Challenged. (me)

Natural Disaster - replaced by Unnatural Event caused by man's destruction of the environment. Every hurricane, mudslide, and flood sould be blamed on Global Warming, even though these events have been occurring for millions of years. (I'm still waiting for somebody to blame the last Ice Age on the campfires of cavemen) laugh.gif

Secretary - Replaced by Administrative Assistant – The word Secretary comes from Latin and means ‘Confidential Officer’ – And for some unknown reason this is a bad thing.

Sex Change - Replaced by gender re-assignment.

Swamp - Replaced by Wetland. Swamps are full alligators, bugs, and disease. If anybody went around saying that we need to "save the swamps", people would think they were out of their friggin' mind!

Trailer Park - Replace by Mobile Home Community.

Ugly - Replaced by Visually Challenging.

and then one of my favorites
War on Terror - overseas contingency operations.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 12th Oct 2009, 10:59pm

QUOTE (murn @ 13th Oct 2009, 12:33am) *
Midget - Replaced by Vertically Challenged. (me)


So, I take it shortarse is definitely out then? rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: murn 12th Oct 2009, 11:12pm

This vertically challenged person most definitely does not have a short ass. unsure.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 12th Oct 2009, 11:41pm

So, supposing I blurted out, not that I would rolleyes.gif , about a complete failure whom I know who's a crazy criminal-minded ugly little fat midget, a fairy from a broken home in some ghetto and couldn't hold a janitors job in an eastern factory or a bin man's job in a trailer park for illegal aliens ....
What happens?
Will the Thought Police jump out of the walls at me?
Would someone report me for being Politically Incorrect?

Posted by: murn 13th Oct 2009, 12:57am

Naw yee whid be classed as having mental illness, placed in a house for the behaviorally challenged and forced tae eat ethnic cuisine.
No bad fur a heid case if yee ask me rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Oct 2009, 01:13am

QUOTE (murn @ 13th Oct 2009, 03:02am) *
... for the behaviourally challenged ...


I thought that was a big tree or wide stream; in your childhood, and a well sorted big burd, the rest of your life ! tongue.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: ashfield 13th Oct 2009, 08:56am

[quote name='murn' date='13th Oct 2009, 12:33am' post='261735']

Girlfriend/Wife - Replaced by Unpaid sex worker laugh.gif

Great list Murn but why did you not include Boyfriend/Husband here rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 13th Oct 2009, 10:36pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 12th Oct 2009, 08:27pm) *
Cash, thanks for the reply.


Thanks for your reply ashfield, I read it with interest.

We've both had our say, and I could easily reply but, unless you really want me to, I suggest we leave it at that.

In other wurds if yer efter a fight A'll gee ye wan nae bover at awe, but ma right hook's no whit it used tae be, so A'd huv tae bring big Bella McGovern alang wae me fur hawners laugh.gif

Shalom. biggrin.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Oct 2009, 10:44pm

Was that it? unsure.gif
Come on guys; there's a big audience here, Get tore right in laugh.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 13th Oct 2009, 11:07pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 14th Oct 2009, 12:49am) *
Was that it?
Come on guys; there's a big audience here, Get tore right in


Big Bella McGovern's kens where you live and she likes travelin' biggrin.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Oct 2009, 12:00am

tongue.gif unsure.gif

Posted by: murn 14th Oct 2009, 01:57am

QUOTE (ashfield @ 13th Oct 2009, 05:01am) *
Girlfriend/Wife - Replaced by Unpaid sex worker

Great list Murn but why did you not include Boyfriend/Husband here rolleyes.gif


why they whid be unpaid sperm donors rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 15th Oct 2009, 05:14pm

Question posed by a gentleman from Abergele. Clwyd, in yesterday's ''Straight to the Point'' section in the Mail...

If the word ''Paki'' is offensive,
why does the Pakistan embassy car have the number plate Pak 1


Posted by: ashfield 15th Oct 2009, 05:22pm

Ah give in, why does it unsure.gif

Posted by: kerry4652 15th Oct 2009, 07:32pm

There's big bucks in having no sense of humour. Come to the nuthouse, the politically correct cesspit of Britain and after someone makes a joke, plead racial hurt. It's funny, no pun intended, that the only way to sate all these hurt feelings are always pound notes and big huge wads of them at5r that. Ah wish I wasn't a sweaty sock so I could have made a claim against the idiotic legal system created by the looniesRus GB Ltd

Posted by: Rab 15th Oct 2009, 08:17pm

Heres another take on the nonsensical 'PC'

Portsmouth City Council are currently trying to get the small Golly image/logo on the side of the yacht covered.(2006) The yacht is registered as the Robertson's Golly, so the name itself is not an issue. Clare Francis worked for James Robertson & Sons in the marketing and market research department from 1972. Later, having concentrated on her sailing and looking for sponsorship, Robertson's as her previous employers offered her their support. The Golly logo was on the original yacht and therefore has historical significance.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 15th Oct 2009, 11:52pm

I think it's about time I make it clear I am not against any race whatever their colour, and whatever faith they are born into or adopt in this world of ours. Underneath the skin we are all at one with one another.... bones, blood, heart and soul, and all else the incredible human body consists of.

We all have the ability of making choices, and it's up to each and every one of us to choose which path in life we wish to walk along, the dim and dark path, or the bright and sunny path. We take the consequences whatever the outcome of those two choices. In that...we differ not at all, we are at one with one another in that respect.
(nae jokes or sarky comments fae you TeeHeeHee. D'ya hear me)

So with that in mind, I would like to mention the following.

My grandchildren's school teachers refer to, what members of my generation called "the blackboard", as the "chalk board". My younger grandchildren who attend nursery school do not sing "Ba Ba Black Sheep" they sing "Ba Ba Woolly Sheep", or "Ba Ba Coloured Sheep", all brought about by, well errmm, "them" the unseen ones.


So here's a question, when will the PC brigade feel they've resolved the issue of the word "Black", because if they continue as they are at present, the word black will, in time, disappear from the English language in Britain.

So what word would replace the word black in the future. "Monochrome" came to my mind, but that would be ridiculous. Think of any word where black is used and replace it with "Monochrome"
My wife bought me a monochrome and grey tie! My wife wore a monochrome skirt with a white blouse.

Seriously, we're going to have to face up to the "black" word issue and accept it's going to happen at some point. So, let us, white black or whoever, decide which word should replace the "black" word the PC brigade find so offensive.

On the other hand, we could simply continue using the word black without a hint of an offensive thought being present in our minds. Mind you, was that not always the case?

Posted by: murn 16th Oct 2009, 12:20am

I brought this up quite a while ago on another thread.

I thinks it was about sweeties we remembered and I tried to say black j*ck but it would not allow me to say it. Now how stupid is that. Mon people it wis black gum.


***IGNORED WORDS***
yup still the same here

Posted by: angel 16th Oct 2009, 12:36am

so which word would be used for the colour black. unsure.gif

Posted by: hessowl 16th Oct 2009, 12:45am

Had this discussion in work regarding alternatives to the work black, Bleak was the substitute. eg bleakberries, bleak friday(last friday before xmas when all the factories go out and get plastered), bleak pudding bleak currrants but do you really want to be wearing a bleak skirt and cardi? Its a colour at the end of the day or are we going to have to come up with new names for the rest of them?

Posted by: ashfield 16th Oct 2009, 08:59am

This is really getting stupid now. There is no problem with using the word Black in it's proper context. It becomes a problem when it is used to reinforce a negative position, for instance using the phrase "black leg" to describe someone is unacceptable for that reason. Why does it have to be a big deal anyway, is it not good manners to address people the way the want to be addressed? How many of you would say, "I'm just going round to the Scottish/English guys for a newspaper", why does it have to be different is the shopkeeper is Asian? Oh any for those who are moaning about this country going down the drain and making snide comments about immigration, get yourself down to the library and have a wee read about Britain's (and Scotlands) history. Can I suggest starting with our role in the slave trade and then perhaps how we managed India.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 16th Oct 2009, 01:33pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 16th Oct 2009, 10:57am) *
This is really getting stupid now.

ashfield, you're correct, it is getting stupid now. Well, actually it's not getting stupid, it is stupid now.
You've got the PC brigade to thank for that.


QUOTE (ashfield @ 16th Oct 2009, 10:57am) *
There is no problem with using the word Black in it's proper context. It becomes a problem when it is used to reinforce a negative position, for instance using the phrase "black leg" to describe someone is unacceptable for that reason.

Ahaah,I never thought about that. I wonder when the PC brigade will pounce on that one; followed by blacklist, blacklisted, blacklisting etc etc. Get my drift?



QUOTE (ashfield @ 15th Oct 2009, 07:20pm) *
Ah give in, why does it

No idea why at all, perhaps the obvious reference doesn't offend them!!


Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 16th Oct 2009, 01:35pm

Well I never!!!

http://www.Paki.com



Paki.com
Paki.com was first launched in 1996 as a Pakistani Portal, offering Email and Other free services on the web.

In 2009 the Site has been revamped and being re launched as Social Networking Utility to bring unity between the people of Pakistan, from all around the world.

The goal of this web site is to bring unity between all the people in Pakistan and allow them to share their knowledge with their fellowmen.

Paki.com is a Project of Super Technologies Inc. a Company Founded by Rehan Allahwala in United States.

Well I never!!!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 16th Oct 2009, 01:44pm

I have never met a black guy, yet, who didn't take pride in being Black.
I hate adverts made " ... for people of colour ..."
People are coloured.
And, as most of us realise, the human race must have started off as black as makes no difference. Even Jesus must have been more black than white.

Posted by: 27stowst 16th Oct 2009, 01:59pm

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."




Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 02:00pm

Black, white, pink, yellow, brown, Jew, Muslim, Christian it's people, simply people we're talking about. We don't go out in daily lives surely to insult anyone? All 'The PC Brigade' as they are being referred to are people watching their manners. Should we not all do that? Be aware of other people feelings in the hope that they will be aware of ours. Too simple? To me it is simple. Thank goodness for all the diversity in life it would be a very boring place without it.

Posted by: Lennox 16th Oct 2009, 02:18pm

QUOTE (Melody @ 16th Oct 2009, 03:59pm) *
Black, white, pink, yellow, brown, Jew, Muslim, Christian it's people, simply people we're talking about. We don't go out in daily lives surely to insult anyone? All 'The PC Brigade' as they are being referred to are people watching their manners. Should we not all do that? Be aware of other people feelings in the hope that they will be aware of ours. Too simple? To me it is simple. Thank goodness for all the diversity in life it would be a very boring place without it.



Well Said Melody, If I looked at every one wondering if I was going to hurt their feelings or get mine hurt I would never set foot out side my house...

I can't speak for any one else but I get really fed up when these "race" issues get brought in these boards over and over again. Come on people enough already.. I for one have had enough.

Posted by: ashfield 16th Oct 2009, 03:05pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 14th Oct 2009, 12:35am) *
We've both had our say, and I could easily reply but, unless you really want me to, I suggest we leave it at that.


Cash, for someone who was going to "leave it at that", you have been giving Google a fair old bashing. I have said all I am going to say on this, you behave in the way you want and I will do likewise. Perhaps while you are googling you can try looking at the "One Scotland" campaign on the Scottish Government website.

Posted by: murn 16th Oct 2009, 03:12pm

QUOTE (Melody @ 16th Oct 2009, 09:59am) *
.....All 'The PC Brigade' as they are being referred to are people watching their manners. ......Thank goodness for all the diversity in life it would be a very boring place without it.


Not so what they have done is threaten Free Speech and piss of a lot of folks along the way.
As for diversity they are trying to eliminate that by making us all the same.

Not my words but I wish they were

The politically correct fail to understand that language is the result of an evolved social process that corresponds to a systemic order achieved without the use of a deliberate overall plan. Language simply arises out of accidents, experiences, and historical borrowings and corruptions of other languages.

The obsession of the morally-superior, sensitive, and conspicuously compassionate elite with the subjective feelings of people is part of today's prevailing therapeutic vision of man. This infatuation with sensitivity has spread throughout the media and academia leading to the creation of feel-good euphemisms which part with accuracy and unambiguity in the interest of feeling and sympathy. Unfortunately, these "linguistic smile buttons" simply camouflage reality rather than change it. 

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 03:41pm

I feel as we are a multicultural society we have to behave as such and have respect for all other nationalities and religions. We have much to learn from one another and it may be the only solution in achieving world peace. I feel that it's a great pity that some fail to see the opportunities and education that multiculturalism presents us with. In any reply to me please remember that I have a right to my opinion and that the rules of this board demand civility

Posted by: murn 16th Oct 2009, 04:14pm

or the REPORT button gets pressed and there goes the free speech again.

!

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 04:18pm

I suggest you refer any complaints to GG Murn as far as anything like that is concerned but yes I will certainly report any post that I find objectionable as I trust we all do.

Posted by: murn 16th Oct 2009, 04:22pm

some of us would prefer to fight our own battles and give Martin a break. We do not all have a permanent red finger, ...and hide in the anon.

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 04:26pm

That is my privilege Murn and I choose to use it thank you.

I notice that the words from one of your last posts came directly from a website called Rebirth of Reason, could you explain what that site promotes exactly if you would be so kind?


Posted by: murn 16th Oct 2009, 04:34pm

No actually it comes from Le Québécois Libre.

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 04:41pm

Thank you.

Posted by: Gina46 16th Oct 2009, 05:03pm

[quote name='Melody' date='16th Oct 2009, 05:25pm' post='262619']
That is my privilege Murn and I choose to use it thank you.

I notice that the words from one of your last posts came directly from a website called Rebirth of Reason, could you explain what that site promotes exactly if you would be so kind?


Thank you for the link, Rebirth of Reason, Melody. I had a look at it, seems interesting! Anyway, Americans are either referred to as White, Black or Red...Blacks do not wish to be called anyhthing other than Black. They have their own saying Black is Beautiful! Color is out because they consider all Black, White and Red as colors. Black is not a derogatory word over here.

Melody, do you not think that it is better to have free speech....only time I would press the button would be if curse words were used. I`m a great believer in free speech but, I draw the line on insults to others and smut. Just my opinion.

Posted by: Gina46 16th Oct 2009, 05:05pm

[quote name='murn' date='16th Oct 2009, 05:33pm' post='262621']
No actually it comes from Le Québécois Libre.


Thank you, also, Murn, for the above link. Enjoyed the read.

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 05:15pm

Yes indeed Gina I too would only report any post which was 'personally' insulting as was my reason for reporting a post this morning. I may say that in all the years that I have been a member on this site I have only found it necessary to do so less than half a dozen times.
Free Speech yes I too believe in Free Speech like yourself unless it proves to be very offensive to others. I also believe in my own right to Free Speech. I too had a look at those sites I am bewildered by the attitude of Objectivism and the ideas of Ayn Rand as I would think about things very differently.


Posted by: Heather 16th Oct 2009, 05:35pm

The only people Melody believe's that are entitled to free speech on this Board are HERSELF and her few friends.

She has been well known for complaing to Martin over the years and many a Member has left the GG Board or been banned because of her moans and complaints.

Now you see this Post, now you don't.

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 05:38pm

No I won't report this Heather I leave it for all to see. smile.gif Now people may see what I've put up with.
You already admit here that it is worth reporting.

Posted by: Heather 16th Oct 2009, 05:45pm

Do what ever you like. There's more than me know what your like and there's more to life than the GG Board.

Remember the thread you and Catherine put on trying to dis-credit me. It didn't work, you came off the worse.

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 05:46pm

Ah'm glad your happy Heather.

Posted by: Heather 16th Oct 2009, 05:48pm

Yes I lead a very happy and fruitful life.

Posted by: Melody 16th Oct 2009, 05:49pm

Good for you. smile.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 16th Oct 2009, 06:03pm

Definition of PC.

QUOTE
Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term applied to language, ideas, policies, or behavior seen as seeking to minimize offense to gender, racial, cultural, disabled, aged or other identity groups. Conversely, the term "politically incorrect" is used to refer to language or ideas that may cause offense or that are seen as unconstrained by orthodoxy.


Where do you draw the line between PC and politeness?

I have friends of many colours and we have some colourful terms for each other, but we never take the piss out each others religion.

Think that is bad, closer to home when in training in RAF, Scots where termed by the English as:~

Porridge w**s,
Poxy Jocks,
FRISPS

and others!

Did we care, gave it back and then made it up in NAAFI later.

PC is just a load of keech. We don't need a bunch of self important eegits bestowing their distorted values of correctness on us.


Posted by: Heather 16th Oct 2009, 06:52pm

Rabbie, in my immediate family we have, Scots, English, Irish, American, Australian, and Canadian.

Catholic, Protestant, Church of England and a few that tell us, Religions a load of tripe. laugh.gif

We have had many a discussion about the different Countries and Religion. Although we don't always agree with each others opinion, we have never fallen out with each other over it.

When in America my niece's a nephews laugh at the way I speak, then imitate me.
The same with using a knife and fork. Americans cut up their food then put the knife down and use the fork only.
When I was over in America in July, my nephew's 3yrs old son was copying me using the knife and fork all the time. And no I was not using a knife and fork to eat my soup. laugh.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 16th Oct 2009, 07:02pm

QUOTE (Melody @ 16th Oct 2009, 05:40pm) *
I feel as we are a multicultural society we have to behave as such and have respect for all other nationalities and religions. We have much to learn from one another and it may be the only solution in achieving world peace. I feel that it's a great pity that some fail to see the opportunities and education that multiculturalism presents us with. In any reply to me please remember that I have a right to my opinion and that the rules of this board demand civility

Amen to that Melody.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 16th Oct 2009, 07:27pm

QUOTE (Lennox @ 16th Oct 2009, 04:17pm) *
I can't speak for any one else but I get really fed up when these "race" issues get brought in these boards over and over again. Come on people enough already.. I for one have had enough.


Lennox, this topic is to do with PC/HR's and the problems they cause.

Incidentally look at the next post I'm about to send in.



Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 16th Oct 2009, 07:37pm

Lawyer Yvonne Hossack is going to the European Court of Human Rights to try and prevent the closure of a care home in Wolverhampton.
Why? Because a resident of the home is her client, one of Britain's oldest people aged 106 years.
Ms Hossack states she has taken on the role of attempting to stop the home closure, not as her client's lawyer, but as a concerned human being.

Now without stating all the facts of this sad affair, what Ms Hossack is attempting to do is what the Human Rights was intended for.
I salute her, and wish her and the dear 106 year old lady all the very best.

Good luck to them.

Posted by: murn 16th Oct 2009, 08:32pm

I know I'm stupid cerebally challenged but I don't get this one can you explain it a wee bit more. huh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Oct 2009, 12:23am

I laughed like a drain the first time I heard, in the RAF, someone call me a "little sweaty sock bas***d" He really meant it insultingly. Took a second to click, then I collapsed in laughter instead of giving him the Glasgow Kiss. tongue.gif
Sweaty Sock.
Aint been called that in years.
Been away too long rolleyes.gif

Posted by: murn 17th Oct 2009, 12:53am

I would be more than willing to make yee feel at home wink.gif

awe a jist found out it meant Jock rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Oct 2009, 01:48am

QUOTE (murn @ 16th Oct 2009, 05:11pm) *
Free Speech ... piss of a lot of folks along the way ... language is the result of an evolved social process ... Language simply arises out of accidents, experiences, and historical borrowings and corruptions of other languages 


Now, if that don't call for another wee TeeHeeHee story .....................

It happened here where I'm living, had only lived here about 4 month or more. My g/f at that time, a German blonde; geez, I could write a book on that one wacko.gif had a cousin who's parents brought him out of east Germany before the fence went up. He HATED the amerikaner und die engländer and made it known when we came into our local; which was probably his before we came anyway.
I asked him one night what someone, say, like myself could do to perhaps help to ease the tension between us, since I figured we couldn't do anything to alter his deep-rooted dislike of us; through Andrea, my translator.
He bit.
He was looking straight at the mirror behind the gantry, the hard as stone look on his face, totally ignoring me and Andi rabbiting away beside him; staring himself out. But I knew he'd bit. I was watching him very closely.
He slugs back his drink, then looking at my reflection in the mirror, he leans toward Andi and tells her that we might not have noticed but they speak another language in this land and she turns to me but I tell her I know what he said.
I then say something like " Rudi, it isn't easy for us. Think back when you were a little child and your parents brought you out of the east to the south west where all your cousins lived, and you couldn't understand a word; and it was German How do you think it is for us? We try. We get answers which could be Chinese for all we know. We give up. Stick to our own language. Get no help from you guys". Andrea's givin' it all the emotion too in translation; anyway I'm givin it the pidgin German in between.
I can see it's having an effect; his jaw is tightening a wee bit more.
"Excuse me Andi," as I, hand on her shoulder, move her to the side a bit and speak directly to Rudi.
"See Rudi, you could help me a bit with a word that's been bothering me. I've been watching you, a bit, tonight and when I look at you I see this thing but I don't know the German word for it. When I see you I know I'm looking at something hard, menacing ... Cold.
And I know I'm not seeing it all, Rudi. I know that there's another 90% beneath the surface."
His head raises a fraction, eyes never leaving the mirror.
"This is what you remind me of, Rudi. What is the German word for that ,Rudi?"
He turns his steely, cold as ice, stare from the mirror and looks down to me; he's sat on a bar hocker I'm standing, and says "EISBERG"!
And I look right back into his baby-blues and say," No,Rudi. I was thinking on SCHEISSBERG ... a big mountain a shit on a bar stool" but I doubt he heard the later.
Without a word of a lie, he jumped off the hocker and ran past me and through the open doors onto the street with Andrea running after him, and I could have sworn he was tearing his hair out. Maybe he was only waving his arms a bit.
Andrea came back after a few minutes; he'd gone home.
"You can't say a word like that", she said.
"What word?"
"Scheissberg"
"Why not?"
"Because such a word doesn't give in the German language. You can't use words that are not in the language. No one would understand them"
"Tell that to Rudi. He understood it."
"But you can't add changes to our language."
"Yes I can. I just did. A scheissberg is a big heap of scheiss which usually drifts from E to SW."

But then again I'm the guy who changed Andi's dream; while she was dreaming it. wink.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 17th Oct 2009, 09:48am

QUOTE (murn @ 16th Oct 2009, 09:31pm) *
I know I'm stupid cerebally challenged but I don't get this one can you explain it a wee bit more. huh.gif

If you're referring to my post above yours murn, you're not stupid, I failed to make my point clear..........

Lawyer Yvonne Hossack is going to the European Court of Human Rights to try and prevent the closure of a care home in Wolverhampton.
Why? Because a resident of the home is her client, one of Britain's oldest people aged 106 years.

She says, "The elderly lady does not wish to move, she desperately wants to remain in her council-run care home where she is surrounded by friends. She wishes to live out her days with carers who are familiar to her, who are dependably kind and who understand her needs. She likes her homely room and she values her stability.

Ms Hossack states she has taken on the role of attempting to stop the home closure, not as her client's lawyer, but as a concerned human being.
She adds, a *businessman offered to finance the home so that it could stay open, but the council rejected his offer!!!!!!!!


Now without stating all the facts of this sad affair, what Ms Hossack is attempting to do is what the Human Rights was intended for, (to review genuine case's of human right's neglect such as the case of this 106 year old lady, not for some brutal thugs sent to prison for appalling crimes who are whingeing about their conditions in prison)
I salute her, and wish her and the dear 106 year old lady all the very best.
Good luck to them....

*I wonder when the PC brigade will endeavour to change that word, to businessperson person no doubt. Sigh, does it really matter.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 17th Oct 2009, 09:50am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 17th Oct 2009, 03:47am) *
Now, if that don't call for another wee TeeHeeHee story .....................


Excellent story and well worth reading THH, I'm impressed. smile.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 18th Oct 2009, 12:37am

Another post I've overlooked...

QUOTE (ashfield @ 16th Oct 2009, 05:04pm) *
Cash, for someone who was going to "leave it at that", you have been giving Google a fair old bashing. <cut>
ashfield, you've lost me.

QUOTE
I have said all I am going to say on this, <cut>
Without any ill feeling towards you ashfield I think we should.

It's been a pleasant, gentlemanly and enlightening discussion.

The very best of good health to you.

Cash.

Posted by: murn 18th Oct 2009, 02:00am

QUOTE
I wonder when the PC brigade will endeavour to change that word, to businessperson person no doubt. Sigh, does it really matter.


thought it they had rolleyes.gif

no such thing as 'man" 'woman" we are all now asexual huh.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 18th Oct 2009, 12:40pm

It's very clear this topic has proved offensive to some of you members.

I feel I want to point out that I respect your view, if you fall into that category, and emphasize that none of my replies involve some personal flak against your view.

As I've said before, this post is pointing out, in my view, the trouble the PC/HR organisations cause and the resultant reaction they stir up when many of their demands are offensive and piddly to a vast majority of UK citizens.

I've also attempted to point out, vis-à-vis, the www.Paki.com website which was built, named, and run by a Pakistani gentleman, who obviously has no concern over the word Paki.

Plus the Pakistani Embassy's official car private registration's plate number PAKI 1. The Embassy is not offended by the obvious connotation.

If you keep your ears open you will know that many, Pakistan's for instance, are not offended by some of the points both these organizations bring to the public's notice and demand changes to.

All these folks, Pakistani's etc, who are not offended by what the PC/HR say they do, want to do is live a quiet life here in the UK; they fear that all the unrest these organizations create among many white people in the UK, may cause a backlash by some of the UK's agitators against the innocent Pakistani's (etc) in their communities.

Shalom.

Posted by: Rab 18th Oct 2009, 07:30pm

QUOTE (murn @ 18th Oct 2009, 03:59am) *
thought it they had rolleyes.gif

no such thing as 'man" 'woman" we are all now asexual

Not the last time I looked murn. Speak for yersel! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Gina46 18th Oct 2009, 07:45pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 18th Oct 2009, 02:39pm) *
It's very clear this topic has proved offensive to some of you members. ...


I rememberas a child when asked " Wherurygoan" If it was to a Pakistani shop, we would say, "The Pakis" Back then, it wasn`t viewed as a derogatory. Today so much is made out of innocent statements... too, too much.Think I`ll learn sign language.

Posted by: Catherine 19th Oct 2009, 01:30pm

Try the two finger wan Gina...works fur me laugh.gif

Posted by: Guest 19th Oct 2009, 08:10pm

Having just watched BBC’s Panorama I would recommend that anyone who thinks that the term “Paki” is a mere abbreviation of “Pakistani” also watch it. It is available on BBC’s iPlayer in the UK.

I think any quaint notion you have that racism is not alive and well in UK will take a bit of a knock. The programme illustrates very well why we need “ political correctness”.

Posted by: murn 21st Oct 2009, 12:28pm

prefer the single finger maself rolleyes.gif

BBC has changed the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty.

It was altered so rather than "all the Kings horses and all the Kings men couldn't put Humpty together again" it says "...... and all the Kings men made Humpty happy again".

On an other show they also changed Little Miss Muffet, so that she made friends with the spider instead of running away.

Is nothing sacred ohmy.gif

Posted by: Catherine 21st Oct 2009, 12:45pm

Aye but ye kin make the vickie sound when ye dae the two fingers Murn laugh.gif

Ah cannae move fur laughin.......see THAT'S whit gies PC a bad name, surely nothing within those lines can be objected to....unless yer a Spider ah suppose laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 21st Oct 2009, 12:57pm

Georgie Porgie, fat free desert and vegie pie
respected little girls and always said, Hi
And when the boys came out to play
they were always friendly. Eh? rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Guest 21st Oct 2009, 04:15pm

The BBC version of Humpty Dumpty:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/tweenies/songtime/songs/h/humptydumpty.shtml

Posted by: murn 21st Oct 2009, 06:27pm

QUOTE
Aye but ye kin make the vickie sound when ye dae the two fingers Murn

who the ell is Vickie huh.gif

QUOTE
Ah cannae move fur laughin.......see THAT'S whit gies PC a bad name, surely nothing within those lines can be objected to....unless yer a Spider ah suppose

or an egg head laugh.gif

Posted by: Lofty 22nd Oct 2009, 12:59pm

Three visually impaired mice, three visually impaired mice.
See how they keep themselves fit by running after the country gentleman's wife.
Who took them to Specsavers for a special pair of spectacles for mice.
They now can see, so it all ends nice.

Three seeing mice, three seeing mice.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 23rd Oct 2009, 07:45pm

15 year old boy leaves shop after buying packet of wine gum; assistant runs after him, orders him back to shop; demands he hand back wine gums as he shouldn't have bought them because he's under 18. Why asks boy, because wine gums have wine in them replies assistant.


Young lady buys birthday card, shop assistant looks up at her and say, ah you're over 25 that's all right then. What was that all about enquires young lady. Well, came reply, if you were under 18 I could not have sold the card to you. Why not? says young lady. Because it has a picture of a wine bottle, cork screw and 3 bottles of wine on the front.

That's the stuff, no-one's confused now. smile.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 24th Oct 2009, 06:35pm

"Ever since it was introduced by Tony Blair's government in 1998, the Human Rights Act has done more to diminish the sense of fair play and natural justice in this country than any other piece of legislation.
That is why, to his credit, David Cameron has pledged to replace it with a more carefully drafted Bill in favour of victims of crime".

"Like any fair-minded citizen, Cameron is not opposed to the 'human rights' aspect of the Act, just the way it has been hijacked by the Left to allow illegal immigrants to stay, prevent foreign criminals from being deported and encourage suspected criminals to seek refuge in this country".

Not my words. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222621/AMANDA-PLATELL-The-man-whos-disgrace-justice.html

Posted by: ashfield 25th Oct 2009, 08:31am

CMG, a very balanced report from...........err The Daily Mail rolleyes.gif . I particularly like her last line, what does she usually do, write jokes for the Beano and Dandy? Any "fair minded person" would see this for what it is, tory propaganda from a tory newspaper.

Incidently, do you have a reference for your previous post?

Posted by: GG 25th Oct 2009, 10:10am

Related comment from Rod Liddle in The Times:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/rod_liddle/article6888851.ece#comment-have-your-say

Includes:

QUOTE
Worse still is the case of Mark Ellwood, a teaching assistant from Hull, who physically removed a foul-mouthed and disruptive child from a classroom, being threatened all the while that he would be “stabbed” and “killed”.

The repulsive child was not injured at all during the eviction process. Ellwood’s reward was to be banged up in the police cells for 22 hours when the boy’s useless mother complained. Then he was suspended from his job and forced by the local social services department to move out of his home and have no contact whatsoever with his three children while the court case was pending. Yes, of course — a court case: they brought a court case against him.

Nine months later, Ellwood has been cleared; but what an indictment of the education department (which refused to stand by Ellwood), the police and the social services.

Ellwood said, on the court steps, that there was a “climate of fear” in our classrooms, that teachers felt unable to act, that threats of stabbing and murder were daily events.

We know that most social services departments are staffed by politically correct incompetents. We may not have much greater regard for the modern police or education authorities.

But the real problem, at the back of it all, is the parents.

GG.

Posted by: Lofty 25th Oct 2009, 01:38pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 25th Oct 2009, 01:29am) *
CMG, a very balanced report from...........err The Daily Mail rolleyes.gif . I particularly like her last line, what does she usually do, write jokes for the Beano and Dandy? Any "fair minded person" would see this for what it is, tory propaganda from a tory newspaper.

Incidently, do you have a reference for your previous post?

I have managed to work out how to copy another persons message thank goodness. I have read that report the link pointed to. I do not know what political view that paper holds but the story, whether or not it was biased in favor of one particular political view does not detract from what the reporter was saying regarding the human rights issue.

Posted by: ashfield 25th Oct 2009, 04:02pm

QUOTE (Lofty @ 25th Oct 2009, 01:36pm) *
I have managed to work out how to copy another persons message thank goodness. I have read that report the link pointed to. I do not know what political view that paper holds but the story, whether or not it was biased in favor of one particular political view does not detract from what the reporter was saying regarding the human rights issue.

Sorry Lofty, but if you can't see the attempt to portray (fair minded citizen) David Cameron as the saint who is going to save us then you must have been reading a different article.

Posted by: Lofty 25th Oct 2009, 06:19pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 25th Oct 2009, 09:00am) *
Sorry Lofty, but if you can't see the attempt to portray (fair minded citizen) David Cameron as the saint who is going to save us then you must have been reading a different article.

The part mentioning David Cameron is part of the article in the link. It was the reporter who mentioned him. I am not interested in any political slant it does not concern me at all. It is the human rights issue I was bringing to the fore, that is what interests me. I am for human rights and I would rather it stopped the sillines it has adopted over the passed few years and went back to what it was initiated for at the begining of its life. Those who now decide which human rights have been breached have made a laughing stock of their rules and regulations.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 26th Oct 2009, 01:45am

QUOTE (Lofty @ 25th Oct 2009, 06:17pm) *
<cut> I am for human rights and I would rather it stopped the sillines it has adopted over the passed few years and went back to what it was initiated for at the begining of its life.

Same here Lofty, well said.

QUOTE (Lofty @ 25th Oct 2009, 06:17pm) *
Those who now decide which human rights have been breached have made a laughing stock of their rules and regulations.

Absolutely correct. I hope the origional concept comes back into being, with sanity, so that the real human rights issues may be addressed.

Perhaps all of us then who are pro HR, would begin seriously to accept them for what they once stood.

Perhaps then, more people would start taking notice, and take them seriously.





Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 31st Oct 2009, 01:22am

1: The Sunday Telegraph.
After witnessing a gay pride march, a 67 year old lady wrote to the council to complain that the event had been allowed to go ahead.
In the letter she went on to describe homosexuals as 'sodomites', said homosexuality had 'contributed to the downfall of every empire' and added that 'gay sex was a major cause of sexually transmitted infections'.

But instead of a simple acknowledgement, She received a response from the council's deputy chief executive, Bridget Buttinger, warning her she might be guilty of a hate crime and it was the local authority's 'duty... to eliminate discrimination of all kinds'.

She went on: 'The content of your letter has been assessed as potentially being hate related because of the views you expressed towards people of a certain sexual orientation.
'Your details and details of the contents of your letter have been recorded as such and passed to the police.'
Two officers later turned up at the frightened grandmother's home and lectured her about her choice of words before telling her she would not be prosecuted.

But the 67 year old lady told the Sunday Telegraph her comments were an expression of her beliefs, not homophobia.

Me (Cash)....No doubt the letter the 67 year old lady recieved from the council's deputy chief executive, Bridget Buttinger will also be assessed as potentially being hate related because of the views she, Bridget Buttinger, expressed towards an old lady of a certain age who expressed her views.



2: The Mail.
In Watford parents have been banned from entering a playground with their own children. Why? because they haven't been checked by police to ensure they are not paedophiles.



Posted by: Catherine 31st Oct 2009, 01:53am

Okay Cash...see yer Granny here, she was out of line presuming she could blah blah her views without any backlash.

Unacceptable nowadays, and so it should be.

A simple acknowledgment doesn't come close because Granny has crossed the line...

BUT...

See yer Woman in Authority,
She should have kept her own Granny in mind and jist sent this 67 year old a Private Answer with watch whit yer sayin here , along with this is the Rights Act etc.

Bridgette Buttinger sounds like a woman who loves her Uniform.

As yet, Im unaware of having either one or the two of our own Boys being Homosexual cos they're 9 and 11 years old....but see if they are, I will shout every Granny like the above down in flames every time.
Don't even go there.

{ah don't mean you but ye no whit ah mean laugh.gif }

Watford School either knows something about someone or they're being overcaustiously ridiculous.

Just my opinion




Posted by: tamhickey 31st Oct 2009, 05:00am

Imagine if the editors of these newspapers had put a different slant on the headlines though.
"Zealous, bigoted Homophbe is merely cautioned by Police" and
"Children protected from potential paedophiles"
I don't agree with either headline, but isn't it amazing how the readership could potentially view the report depending on the editorship of either story?
Just a thought.

Posted by: Biancax3 1st Nov 2009, 03:58pm

supposedly there was A LOT of complaints in London over this advertisement.

http://img524.imageshack.us/i/tinchys.jpg/

Racist? Or just bad avertisement?

Posted by: Gina46 1st Nov 2009, 05:43pm

QUOTE (Biancax3 @ 1st Nov 2009, 04:56pm) *
supposedly there was A LOT of complaints in London over this advertisement.

http://img524.imageshack.us/i/tinchys.jpg/

Racist? Or just bad avertisement?



OMG..Both!

Posted by: murn 1st Nov 2009, 06:22pm

naw don't see it as racist. Bigoted maybe, no all Orange Men are monkeys unsure.gif

Posted by: Biancax3 1st Nov 2009, 06:30pm

QUOTE (murn @ 1st Nov 2009, 06:20pm) *
naw don't see it as racist. Bigoted maybe, no all Orange Men are monkeys unsure.gif


rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Nov 2009, 06:33pm

QUOTE (murn @ 1st Nov 2009, 07:20pm) *
naw don't see it as racist. Bigoted maybe, no all Orange Men are monkeys unsure.gif

tongue.gif

But I still don't get it with the poster? Is he someone I should know
( we're still on jungle drums here in the Black Forest ... no pun intended, either way)

Posted by: Biancax3 1st Nov 2009, 07:32pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 1st Nov 2009, 06:31pm) *
tongue.gif

But I still don't get it with the poster? Is he someone I should know
( we're still on jungle drums here in the Black Forest ... no pun intended, either way)


Its because he is black and monkey was once a racial insult towards blacks i believe.
He is some crap rap/pop singer from the UK, you don't want to hear him sad.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 1st Nov 2009, 10:16pm

Biancax3 The guy in the poster, Tinchy Stryder, must have given that poster the thumbs up, so if he didn't complain about it, what's the complainers complaining about. I hope if that is the case (he gave it the thumbs up) that the complainers were informed of that fact.


Now this is serious so don't get rattled!!!!!!!

1:
Poppy sellers from the Royal British Legion have been banned from shaking their collection tins in case they are seen as a public menace.

Anne Widdecombe, Tory MP, said, It's absolutely ridiculous and people have been rattling tins while selling poppies for years. I think everyone would be happy to see someone rattling a tin and know that they could buy a poppy to support ex-service men. Military historian Correlli Barnett said the ban was very sad and an example of political correctness gone barmy.

A Charity Commission Spokesman said, it could constitute a public menace. It's up to the local authority to enforce these rules and they will normally step in following complaints from the public.
Newcastle Chronicle.




2:
Andrew Neil during his This Week program light-heartedly compared his guests Dianne Abbot as a chocolate Hob Nob biscuit and Michael Portillo as a Custard Cream. It wasn't a great joke but mildly funny, and appeared to cause no offence to either guest but, on receiving 15 complaints the BBC removed the interview from their web site.
The Mail.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 2nd Nov 2009, 12:26am

QUOTE (Catherine @ 31st Oct 2009, 01:51am) *
Okay Cash...see yer Granny here, she was out of line presuming she could blah blah her views without any backlash.
Unacceptable nowadays, and so it should be.
A simple acknowledgment doesn't come close because Granny has crossed the line.


Hullo therr ma dear auld Granny,
I do know what you mean, I know you didn't mean me. But you might mean me after reading this laugh.gif



Well she may have been out of line, but then again mibbie not. You see, this is where I feel things are unbalanced. The parade was formed of people who were displaying a lifestyle in public which is rather distasteful to some people, in this instance a 67 year old woman. Many people of her generation view homosexuality in the same light, but she was the only one who stood up for her convictions, just as the folks in the Gay Pride parade were showing a public display of their convictions.

Now, if the Gay Pride are free to publicly display what to some is distasteful, then that old woman, I feel, should be free to display her opposition to it.

What I didn't mention, and you'll probably guess why not, was that the old lady claims she was 'verbally abused' while distributing 'Christian leaflets' at the march in the centre of Norwich. She said someone 'whispered something in my ear and disappeared'
The article did not mention the contents of her leaflets, nor did it mention who verbally abused her, or what was whispered to her, but never-the-less she does claim she was verbally abused when handing out her leaflets at the gay parade. So we can only come to our own conclusion as to who verbally abused her.

The case has now been taken up by the Christian Institute, which is looking into potential breaches of freedom of speech and religious rights under the Human Rights Act, either by Norwich City Council or Norfolk Police.

Incidentally, the homosexual equality pressure group Stonewall has branded the authorities' response ' disproportionate'.

Yer wee grandson cash. biggrin.gif



Posted by: Catherine 2nd Nov 2009, 01:04am

Hullo wee grandson Cash laugh.gif

Gie yer granny grip tae haud oan then......Knowingly {cos grannies know} she went intae the Lions den, took flak that she knew she wis probably gaunni get....BUT...wae the full story....ahd back ma granny.
In this case ah see eachy peachy.
Ridiculous it's came tae this. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Catherine 2nd Nov 2009, 01:11am

Supposedly a lot of backlash Bianca ? Well wis there or wis there no?

Personally the colour Orange and the word Monkey makes no connection to the Human Being as far as my thought pattern is concerned.
Interesting how others think right enough.

Posted by: Biancax3 2nd Nov 2009, 11:53am

QUOTE (Catherine @ 2nd Nov 2009, 01:09am) *
Supposedly a lot of backlash Bianca ? Well wis there or wis there no?

Personally the colour Orange and the word Monkey makes no connection to the Human Being as far as my thought pattern is concerned.
Interesting how others think right enough.


There was definitely quite a few complaints to orange. They were talking about pulling the sign, whether they have or not i don't know, it's in London.

Posted by: Biancax3 2nd Nov 2009, 12:02pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 1st Nov 2009, 10:14pm) *
Biancax3 The guy in the poster, Tinchy Stryder, must have given that poster the thumbs up, so if he didn't complain about it, what's the complainers complaining about. I hope if that is the case (he gave it the thumbs up) that the complainers were informed of that fact.


Now this is serious so don't get rattled!!!!!!!

1:
Poppy sellers from the Royal British Legion have been banned from shaking their collection tins in case they are seen as a public menace.

Anne Widdecombe, Tory MP, said, It's absolutely ridiculous and people have been rattling tins while selling poppies for years. I think everyone would be happy to see someone rattling a tin and know that they could buy a poppy to support ex-service men. Military historian Correlli Barnett said the ban was very sad and an example of political correctness gone barmy.

A Charity Commission Spokesman said, it could constitute a public menace. It's up to the local authority to enforce these rules and they will normally step in following complaints from the public.
Newcastle Chronicle.



2:
Andrew Neil during his This Week program light-heartedly compared his guests Dianne Abbot as a chocolate Hob Nob biscuit and Michael Portillo as a Custard Cream. It wasn't a great joke but mildly funny, and appeared to cause no offence to either guest but, on receiving 15 complaints the BBC removed the interview from their web site.
The Mail.


That is just ridiculous. British people do like a whinge though, about anything. It's scary that 15 complaints is enough to get anything pulled.

I don't see how shaking charity boxes makes anyone public menaces. These people usually stand for hours shaking their boxes in busy areas where no one even takes notice of them - and they are doing it all for a good cause. Absurd!! huh.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 2nd Nov 2009, 08:55pm

Leeds local TV news....

No more Spotted Dick; Spotted Richard from now on.


Now don't forget children, or you'll be sent to the naughty corner. huh.gif



Posted by: 27stowst 2nd Nov 2009, 09:19pm

Honestly ah could jist weep every year when ah buy poppies when the old soldiers are so polite and grateful for the few bob!! My eyes jist fill up and ah reply no thank you. It's an effin disgrace in the first place that they have tae rely on charity. mad.gif sad.gif It's a joke!! Aw ye huv tae say is naw if ye don't want tae put anything in the bleddy tin. Tae ban them is ludicrous!!

Posted by: ashfield 3rd Nov 2009, 08:48am

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 2nd Nov 2009, 08:53pm) *
Leeds local TV news....

No more Spotted Dick; Spotted Richard from now on.


Now don't forget children, or you'll be sent to the naughty corner. huh.gif


I think you will find this is a very old story and related to one school. They did it because of jokes the kids were making but reversed their decision and reverted to te old name.

Posted by: Rabbie 3rd Nov 2009, 08:56am

Noo, in the name o the wee man, dinnea git me stairit on these ceribally challenged eegits again, hmm, is that tautology <grins>. Noo, while ah'm here, a'll tell ye something fur nuthin.

They are awe giypit bunch o neeps an bampots, they need sending on a wee recreational holiday, learn baskit weaving an tae develop a modicum of commin sense, and tae lea awe us normal peepels alane.

Richt, am aff hiedbang a wa'.


Posted by: carmella 3rd Nov 2009, 09:04am

Ocht assist my robert - (that's helpma boab to youse that disney ken) whatever next.

It gets more and more ridiculous all the time!

Posted by: Rabbie 3rd Nov 2009, 10:13am

I am sure these PC plonkers are oan the payroll of some labour devil spawned QANGO, that is specifically dedicated to annoying the begezzus oot awe us normal<drools> fowks.

Come on, wit normal, sane people wid come oot with the mince an tripe that the PC numptytude can. It defies all normal, reasonable, rational attempts of description or explanation. It's beyond describing how the universe was formed and why, in fact that's easier.

Fur wance, ah'm loast fur polite words, but ah'll think o something. Doobt if ah will publish it here tho! Thurrs, Ladies present.

laugh.gif

Posted by: ashfield 3rd Nov 2009, 11:12am

As I have said before, what is lacking is common sense and a balanced approach. The "Andrew Neil" story about his "feeble joke" was complete nonsense (although him and feeble seem to go together), why they pulled it from the iplayer bamboozled me as I was surprised that anybody would watch him anyway. I thought the attached article was good on the subject of internet complaints and, in particular, the last paragraph sure made sense.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/01/nick-cohen-andrew-neil-jan-moir

Posted by: kerry4652 3rd Nov 2009, 04:13pm

The wurld his went puir mental. I don't know any Asian who finds the word Paki offensive. In fact I've heard a few vociferously proclaiming "I'm a Paki not a Bangladeshi."

This offensive word along with many other offensive words have been decided by the looneytunes and not by Pakistanis or any other nationality.

Tle lefties are still dictating and dictating to the majority that their restrictive parameters must be adhered to or they will scream racism.

Maybe if they put more time and effort into tackling racial assaults by all colours and not just whites then equality may feel equality.

That doesn't happen and racism will always thrive while people harp back hundreds of years to slavery and omit the steps taken that have actively promoted people for nothing more than having black or brown skin.

Racism will not be stopped until equality is equally accessable for all and the politically correct are consigned to the dustbin of history where it belongs.

Posted by: kerry4652 3rd Nov 2009, 04:16pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 3rd Nov 2009, 12:10pm) *
As I have said before, what is lacking is common sense and a balanced approach. The "Andrew Neil" story about his "feeble joke" was complete nonsense (although him and feeble seem to go together), why they pulled it from the iplayer bamboozled me as I was surprised that anybody would watch him anyway. I thought the attached article was good on the subject of internet complaints and, in particular, the last paragraph sure made sense.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/01/nick-cohen-andrew-neil-jan-moir



I find it funny that you condemn the daily mail as a comic but quote from the looniiest media rag in Britain. The guardian is nothing but a meeting house for rabid left wing fascists.

Posted by: ashfield 3rd Nov 2009, 06:33pm

QUOTE (kerry4652 @ 3rd Nov 2009, 04:14pm) *
I find it funny that you condemn the daily mail as a comic but quote from the looniiest media rag in Britain. The guardian is nothing but a meeting house for rabid left wing fascists.


Yawn dry.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 3rd Nov 2009, 06:41pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 3rd Nov 2009, 07:31pm) *
Yawn dry.gif


Oh, Ashfield you are in deep mierda now. Captain Rational does not take to dismissive one-liners.

Posted by: ashfield 3rd Nov 2009, 07:22pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 3rd Nov 2009, 06:39pm) *
Oh, Ashfield you are in deep mierda now. Captain Rational does not take to dismissive one-liners.


Well you see Bilbo.s, I never at any time said I thought the Daily Mail was a comic. Comic's are funny and the Daily Mail in my view isn't, quite the reverse. Interesting that those who complain about words being put in their mouths are not bad about doing it to others.

He may well be right about the readers of the Guardian, and it's political leanings, I wouldn't know because I have never read it. The article I posted the link to is from the Observer.

I'm happy to award 1 out of 10 for the attempted wind-up though rolleyes.gif

Posted by: wombat 3rd Nov 2009, 07:48pm

QUOTE (kerry4652 @ 3rd Nov 2009, 04:11pm) *
The wurld his went puir mental. I don't know any Asian who finds the word Paki offensive. In fact I've heard a few vociferously proclaiming "I'm a Paki not a Bangladeshi."

aye but ah'll lay odds there R plenty of "PAKI'S" that find the term GOOK ur SLOPE offensive

.

racism will always thrive while people harp back hundreds of years to slavery and omit the steps taken that have actively promoted people for nothing more than having black or brown skin.

how can it not thrive ?esp in UK where a class system thrives ,white on white racism innit ?



Racism will not be stopped until equality is equally accessable for all and the politically correct are consigned to the dustbin of history where it belongs.

dis that include equality for palestinians as well? jist thawt ah'd ask . rolleyes.gif
p.s the racial abuse done tae the aboriginal people is done by the flag waving rule brittania/ pro monarchists set ower here . jist thawt ah'd menshun it .

Posted by: kerry4652 3rd Nov 2009, 08:05pm

QUOTE (bilbo%2Es @ 3rd Nov 2009, 07:39pm) *
Oh, Ashfield you are in deep mierda now. Captain Rational does not take to dismissive one-liners.


One constructive rational line from you would be a first

Posted by: kerry4652 3rd Nov 2009, 08:14pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 3rd Nov 2009, 12:10pm) *
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/01/nick-cohen-andrew-neil-jan-moir


Wonder why your link says Guardian then.

And to be honest it must be one of the few rational columns written in that rag.

You will find it states quite clearly The Guardian, the Observer being the Sunday edition in the same way the Mail is the Sunday edition of the Daily Record. So hardlyu constitutes a wind up. Simple facts are you posted a ling that states the guardian, the article come up stating the Guardian, maybe the website is playing games.

ww.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/01/nick-cohen-andrew-neil-jan-moir"]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/20...w-neil-jan-moir

Posted by: kerry4652 3rd Nov 2009, 08:26pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 25th Oct 2009, 09:29am) *
CMG, a very balanced report from...........err The Daily Mail rolleyes.gif . I particularly like her last line, what does she usually do, write jokes for the Beano and Dandy?


Oh was it just the Daily Mail journalists that wrote comics.

I do apologise.

As if the Guardian or the Observer are a pillar of honesty. I would say the comic writers are employed in this arena.

Posted by: kerry4652 3rd Nov 2009, 09:46pm

QUOTE (wombat @ 3rd Nov 2009, 08:46pm) *
p.s the racial abuse done tae the aboriginal people is done by the flag waving rule brittania/ pro monarchists set ower here . jist thawt ah'd menshun it .


Aye it's they royalists whit commit aw the crime. In fact Australia has no republican criminals or racists. Ah think yer husband might disagree.


how can it not thrive ?esp in UK where a class system thrives ,white on white racism innit ?

Is this a drug induced post or just a key in a clock


dis that include equality for palestinians as well? jist thawt ah'd ask .

Life would be a lot quieter if they stopped firing rockets. And of course if the financial aid wasn't syphoned off they could all have had a 4 bedroom hoose and a porsche. Where did all the billions go.

The wurld his went puir mental. I don't know any Asian who finds the word Paki offensive. In fact I've heard a few vociferously proclaiming "I'm a Paki not a Bangladeshi."

aye but ah'll lay odds there R plenty of "PAKI'S" that find the term GOOK ur SLOPE offensive

I'm sure you can find plenty who find offence in anything, the looney left teach them to do so and the only medicine that cures the pain is money.

The looney left couldnae spell equality, they create division and promote and fund segration and racism and lo and behold as usual the Jewish equation brought in to it. Amazing really.

Posted by: Biancax3 3rd Nov 2009, 11:11pm

lol @ the newspaper snobbery.

Posted by: bilbo.s 4th Nov 2009, 06:58am

Same goes for you. tongue.gif

Posted by: brian432 4th Nov 2009, 07:51am

QUOTE (wombat @ 3rd Nov 2009, 08:46pm) *
p.s the racial abuse done tae the aboriginal people is done by the flag waving rule brittania/ pro monarchists set ower here . jist thawt ah'd menshun it .

What a load of bollocks dry.gif

Posted by: wombat 4th Nov 2009, 08:40am

sez U . sorry pal it's officialdom thats racially abusing the aborigines ,egged on by nationalism, sbeen gauin on furr years.

Posted by: wombat 4th Nov 2009, 09:07am

different now we have a decent prime minister thet recognizes and admits the abuse done tae these people .

Posted by: carmella 4th Nov 2009, 10:05am

I stumbled upon this wee article this morning and found it interesting.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/aborigines-i-was-terrified-i-didnt-know-anything-about-white-fellas-1803657.html

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Nov 2009, 10:42pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 1st Nov 2009, 10:14pm) *
Andrew Neil during his This Week program light-heartedly compared his guests Dianne Abbot as a chocolate Hob Nob biscuit and Michael Portillo as a Custard Cream. It wasn't a great joke but mildly funny, and appeared to cause no offence to either guest but, on receiving 15 complaints the BBC removed the interview from their web site.
The Mail.

Now compare that, to this article.......

Olympic swimming champion Rebecca Adlington has formally complained to the BBC that it let Glasgow comedian Frankie Boyle off with a slap on the wrist over jokes that caused her deep hurt.

During an episode of BBC 2's Mock The Week last year, Boyle said "she resembled someone looking at themselves in the back of a spoon" then followed that remark with a sexual innuendo".
The comments caused 75 complaints, but although the BBC Trust criticized Boyle and agreed the remarks were unfair and offensive it took no further action than banning him from the show for a period.

Boyle has since quit Mock The Week but is refusing to apologise to Rebbeca Adlington. He ridiculed the BBC Trust rulings as worthless and went on to compare Ms Adlington to a beagle.

The BBC Trust said on Sunday night (1-11-09) it had received Ms Adlington's letter of complaint and would consider it, but said "at this stage we have no plans to review the finding".



Unjust, unbalanced and simply wrong. Rather worrying in actually.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Nov 2009, 10:45pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 2nd Nov 2009, 08:53pm) *
Leeds local TV news....
No more Spotted Dick; Spotted Richard from now on.

QUOTE (ashfield @ 3rd Nov 2009, 08:46am) *
I think you will find this is a very old story and related to one school. They did it because of jokes the kids were making but reversed their decision and reverted to te old name.


Was on Leeds local TV news 2 weeks ago ashfield.

Posted by: kerry4652 5th Nov 2009, 11:44am

You will also find that the politically correct asres are all around the country and if one asre does not succeed then another aser will take up the mantel.

One from 2002 by a bunch of clowns and September 2009 another coco battalion do their duty. It shows the country is riddled with idiots and paid by the taxpayer.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211960/Council-turns-offensive-Spotted-Dick-Spotted-Richard-spare-blushes-diners.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2249273.stm

Posted by: kerry4652 5th Nov 2009, 08:36pm

It's here, they have now removed black listed. East London Advertiser talking about a boycott of London Met University refers to it being the first university to be 'GREY LISTED'

The wurld has went bonkers and the loonies are running the asylum

Posted by: kerry4652 5th Nov 2009, 08:39pm

When will the politically correct Nazis cancel the racist comment of 'Whitewash' It's a fascist statement and derogatory to us whities.

EQUALITY RULES YA BASS!

Posted by: murn 5th Nov 2009, 09:06pm

well hello Kerry and Hello Gina nice tae see yees urnae in my imagination

See am no a lunatic err umm Person of unsound mind wacko.gif

haw butcher look the other two of me are here tae.... uff blast there away again unsure.gif

Posted by: wombat 5th Nov 2009, 09:20pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 4th Nov 2009, 10:03am) *
I stumbled upon this wee article this morning and found it interesting.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/aborigines-i-was-terrified-i-didnt-know-anything-about-white-fellas-1803657.html


very good carmella,but the racism still goes on ,the then british government massacred thousands (some estimates say 3 million) to steal their land from them and exploit them, they have very smart lawyers nowadays (educated aboriginal lawyers) as i said this new prime minister sympathises with them and actually apologised to the aboriginal people, things are slowly changing for the better . kerry 4652 we do have the australian equivalent of the BNP over here and i dont think any of their members are pro republic.at times i feel ashamed that i bought land that isnt rightfully mine .

Posted by: Gina46 5th Nov 2009, 11:01pm

QUOTE (murn @ 5th Nov 2009, 10:04pm) *
well hello Kerry and Hello Gina nice tae see yees urnae in my imagination

See am no a lunatic err umm Person of unsound mind wacko.gif

haw butcher look the other two of me are here tae.... uff blast there away again unsure.gif


Ach, aye..am still here....displaying, as usual, my words of wisdom. Murn, you are of sound mind!How`s that furr a medical diagnosis oer the internet.
Although, am no to sure o` that Kerry wan...

Butcher, Murn, he won`t believe you...yurr in good company hen, no tae worry!

Posted by: kerry4652 5th Nov 2009, 11:09pm

QUOTE (wombat @ 5th Nov 2009, 10:18pm) *
very good carmella,but the racism still goes on ,the then british government massacred thousands (some estimates say 3 million) to steal their land from them and exploit them, they have very smart lawyers nowadays (educated aboriginal lawyers) as i said this new prime minister sympathises with them and actually apologised to the aboriginal people, things are slowly changing for the better . kerry 4652 we do have the australian equivalent of the BNP over here and i dont think any of their members are pro republic.at times i feel ashamed that i bought land that isnt rightfully mine .



I agree with Brian, he dumbed it down perfectly.

Posted by: murn 6th Nov 2009, 01:38am

short and sweet wink.gif jist like me rolleyes.gif

Posted by: murn 6th Nov 2009, 05:03pm

6yr old girl branded a racist for telling a black girl she had chocolate on her face.

The 6yr old had been eating chocolate mousse and playing with a friend when she was chased by two 11yr old girls. One, who was black, told the 6yr old she had chocolate on her face, the youngster replied: 'Well, you've got chocolate on yours.'

Older girl wiped her face and said "I've got nothing on my face"

The 11yr old then complained to a teacher, who gave the 6yr old a telling off.

When the Mother came to collect the 6yr old, she was told the incident was 'racist' and that a complaint had been logged.

Full Story
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225633/Chocolate-face-girl-6-branded-racist.html

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 7th Nov 2009, 03:24pm

QUOTE (murn @ 6th Nov 2009, 05:01pm) *
6yr old girl branded a racist for telling a black girl she had chocolate on her face.

Honestly murn, I'm speechless.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Teachers throughout Scotland have been banned from calling bullies...well, bullies!!!
You see, it's just in case "it upsets the wee souls who are the bullies"

Scottish Tory education spokesman (Ahemm, I'm sure that should be spokesperson) Elizabeth Smith, a former teacher, said; "This is political correction going way to far"

So, if you know any teachers who have bullies in their classes, remind them not to upset or offend the little 17 year old angels.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 7th Nov 2009, 03:31pm

Clive Baldwin has dressed up as Al Jolson, black face included, all over the world for the past 60 years.
However, the Belgrade theatre in Coventry has just banned the 75 year old for blackening his face for his performance there.
huh.gif


Posted by: wombat 7th Nov 2009, 09:31pm

kerry 4652 wrote:I agree with Brian, he dumbed it down perfectly.

so i'm a dummy an auld tommy's a nazi ?shood we bow tae yir superior intellect urr whit? the maltreatment of native australian's started when cook discovered australia (he wis anuther flag wavin bigot)same policies applied in the U.S, wipe out the red indian's ( by any means including booze )and enslave the negro's ,nae wonder the U.S and U.K. have problems .

Posted by: murn 7th Nov 2009, 11:53pm

QUOTE
so i'm a dummy an auld tommy's a nazi ?


feels good tae get it right doesn't it laugh.gif

Posted by: kerry4652 11th Nov 2009, 07:19pm

QUOTE (brian432 @ 4th Nov 2009, 08:49am) *
What a load of bollocks dry.gif


Yes that dumbed it down perfectly.

Now Wombat if you could just point out where I said you were a dummy. Tut tut seems auld Kennedy's condition is contagious. Try to quote the written word. Ask your husband tae point it oot fur ye if it helps.

There will be a shortage of paranoid pills soon.

Posted by: kerry4652 11th Nov 2009, 07:22pm

QUOTE (wombat @ 7th Nov 2009, 10:29pm) *
kerry 4652 wrote:I agree with Brian, he dumbed it down perfectly.

so i'm a dummy an auld tommy's a nazi ?shood we bow tae yir superior intellect urr whit? the maltreatment of native australian's started when cook discovered australia (he wis anuther flag wavin bigot)same policies applied in the U.S, wipe out the red indian's ( by any means including booze )and enslave the negro's ,nae wonder the U.S and U.K. have problems .


Cook wis a bigot, an same policies applied in US, that Cook definitely got aboot.

Yer proving Brian tae be 100% accurate

Posted by: wombat 12th Nov 2009, 09:59pm

QUOTE (kerry4652 @ 11th Nov 2009, 07:17pm) *
Yes that dumbed it down perfectly.

Now Wombat if you could just point out where I said you were a dummy. Tut tut seems auld Kennedy's condition is contagious. Try to quote the written word. Ask your husband tae point it oot fur ye if it helps.

There will be a shortage of paranoid pills soon. cool.gif naw mate yie had 46 posts an U had already psychoanalysed tommy .why?


Posted by: wombat 12th Nov 2009, 10:04pm

means yie knew him fae anither site dunnit?he probably got the better of yie in a discussion on that other site ?wis it over (staged foties in gaza strip?)

Posted by: carmella 13th Nov 2009, 10:06am

Dundee City Council have not mentioned the word 'Christmas' in their switch on.

I think most of us would agree that we live in a Christian country, which is why this kind of political correctness gets right under my skin.

We also know that when we visit countries which are not Christian we are asked to respect their views, woman cover themselves on shoulders and wearing long skirts to show respect - this we duly abide with.

So why, in a Christian country are we Christians treated differently for the sake of those who are not. All in the name of political correctness gone mad.

Way over the top in my opinion!


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/no-mention-of-christmas-at-big-switch-on-1.932181

Posted by: bilbo.s 13th Nov 2009, 10:20am

Carmella,
I completely agree. As you have probably noticed, I do not regard myself as a Christian although raised as such. I am certain that nobody, Muslim, Jew or atheist is offended by the celebration of Christmas, especially as there is little overt display of the religious theme of this midwinter festival.

I feel that it is now a mainly secular event and I have no problem with those who feel the religious aspects. Even heathens such as I have our quiet moments of spiritual reflection from time to time
and tolerance is a two-way street.

Posted by: Heather 13th Nov 2009, 10:45am

Quite frankly I don't care who is offended by Christmas Celebrations in this Country.

This Countries roots are based in Christianity. It's long over due for our Government and Councils to tell anyone of another Faith who comes into this Country that if they are offended by our Laws, Culture, & Customs which include celebrating the Birth of Christ, then they shoud go to a Country more acceptable to their own ideals.

Why should we in Britain change to be more acceptable to immigrants.

It is only since in the last 4/5 years since all the immigrants came in we have had all this Political Correctness which is offensive to the Indigenous British.

Carmella is correct about us going to another Country and respecting their Cultures & Customs. So we should demand the same of anyone coming here, especially as our g'dads and dads fought two World Wars to keep Britain, British.

Posted by: bilbo.s 13th Nov 2009, 10:56am

Heather,
I was trying to make the point that, in my opinion, nobody is offended by Christmas, Easter or whatever. It is the PC brigade who decide all this nonsense and , as a direct result, stir up ill feeling.

I live in a predominantly catholic country and I enjoy all the many fiestas, mainly of a religious origin. Of course I have no feeling for the religious aspect but I just love to see a parade and people enjoying themselves. That I can believe in.

Posted by: carmella 13th Nov 2009, 11:25am

I agree with both of you.

Bilbo.s. You have said many times that you're not a Christian and I have no problems whatsoever with that. I don't think that living in Spain and enjoying the Fiestas in your case has anything to do with Christianity per se - I think you just enjoy the carnival and atmosphere - there's nothing wrong with that.

I have had some wonderful times in Siggiewi where my family live in Malta over many years during some of the festivals which I believe I would enjoy whether Christian or not, they do them so well.

In Malta, same applies to Christmas as I've already posted.

You are both right that it's actually the PC Brigade who object, not the diverse religions who have chosen Scotland as their homes, although perhaps there are a minority who do. Nevertheless and notwithstanding, they have chosen to live in a Christian country, so should abide by that. No one is stopping any of them from carrying on their own religious beliefs and ceremonies - so please PC People, leave the majority alone to do the same.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Nov 2009, 02:12pm

I enjoy Christmas; the hours on end needed to put up the tree and the decorations and tinsel, the hanging of the wee stars that Auntie Lottie made and the glass balls that Mandy made when she was a little kid, the cats getting in the way and playing with the boxes and the whole build up to the handing over of gifts and the carol singers and the possible hope that this time there may be Peace on Earth to all men and the whole shebang ... it's just the bit wi' the white stuff outside the windows that I'm not too keen on.
So if we stop using the term Christmas, so as not to cause offence, what politically correct term must one use?
There's a suitable Glasgow expression for these PC idiots.
Anyway, why should everything be politically correct?
When is Politic so correct?
Away an' bile yer heid. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Angela Chick 13th Nov 2009, 02:39pm

Like others have said i love Christmas too...all the build up and the family all around me etc. In my opinion its the PC Mob that are the real Racists for thinking this garbage up in the first place. mad.gif Like Heather said i myself dont give a toss who is offended this is my Christmas too and i will celebrate it the way i want and have always done.....and i will keep saying Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Rab 13th Nov 2009, 03:47pm

If you believe anything 'reported' in the papers these days, its no good complaining about Political Correctness! A modicum of cynicism is required as soon as you start to read.

Posted by: kerry4652 14th Nov 2009, 10:16pm

I'm the Grinch, I hate xmas, it's so much hype for one day but I enjoy the day once the hype has gone.
I have never met anyone who feels offended by Christmas lights and I know more Muslims than the vast majority on here and not one has ever uttered a word against any Christian celbration. Of course there are the Islamic nazis but that is who the PC brigade pander to. The pc brigade are the purveyors of racism and intolerance, these are the people who have created the division and the bigotry, the looney left pandering to the Islamic extreme right wing fascist but then that is modern day britain

Posted by: kerry4652 14th Nov 2009, 11:59pm

QUOTE (wombat @ 12th Nov 2009, 11:02pm) *
means yie knew him fae anither site dunnit?he probably got the better of yie in a discussion on that other site ?wis it over (staged foties in gaza strip?)


Same old same old, usual culprits bring the same subject, twisted out of context to every thread, Israel, yawn , Gaza yawn, bored rigid yawn, overdosed paranoid pills

Posted by: Rab 15th Nov 2009, 09:28pm

Christmas Lights!! You know what? This has been a so-called Christian country for nearly two thousand years. It is only within the past 150 of them that all this 'Christmas celebration' nonsense has been forced upon us. Prior to that we must assume that practising Christians went to church on Christmas day and that was it. Maybe the odd gift was given if you could afford it. Most folk did nothing. I understand that Prince Albert brought about the modern hype about Christmas 'celebrating' and even Santa (as we know him) was the invention of an American department store owner to get people in his shop. It has developed into an enormous economic monster that we can well do without. Every Christmas, people spend way over their means, eat and drink far too much than is good for them, spoil their children rotten, and yet the same people insist on using the 'Christmas Spirit' as an excuse for their wastefulness. The weeks leading up to 25/12 are a nightmare for everyone and the weeks after it are just as bad when the statements roll in.
Its not as if the Christian-worshipping population justified the event as the secularites are far more prevalent today. Like the scourge of Political Correctness, the Christmas Gorgefest is another boil forced on humanity by commercialism that needs to be lanced, and as soon as possible. The purpose of Christmas is the thanksgiving for the birth of Jesus Christ. If only people who believe just went to church and celebrated there then that would be fine by me. Forget the rest!
Ebeneezer Scrooge.(NOT!)

Posted by: Oor Wullie 16th Nov 2009, 02:41am

QUOTE (Heather @ 13th Nov 2009, 11:43am) *
Quite frankly I don't care who is offended by Christmas Celebrations in this Country.

It is only since in the last 4/5 years since all the immigrants came in we have had all this Political Correctness which is offensive to the Indigenous British.



Well, most of the immigrants arrived well before the last 4 / 5 years, most of them from Ireland I should think.

I don't know if Heather's statement is true about political correctness in general but it's certainly not true about objections to Christmas celebration, which was banned for many years and discouraged in Scotland for many more.

If I'm not mistaken, Christmas Day was only made a public holiday in Scotland in the 1950's or 60's.

I don't think we can pin the blame for this one on the recently arrived immigrants.

Posted by: bilbo.s 16th Nov 2009, 07:21am

http://www.siliconglen.com/Scotland/12_15.html

Posted by: Rab 16th Nov 2009, 07:15pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 16th Nov 2009, 07:19am) *
http://www.siliconglen.com/Scotland/12_15.html

Thanks bilbo. I rest my case! (Its b****y heavy!) wink.gif
Apologies to OP for going a wee bit OT but points are relevant.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 16th Nov 2009, 10:41pm

Now if I can just find the link to the Christians using the Pagan cross as their symbol.
Jews didn't crucify ... they made use of a pole to string folks to.

Posted by: Rab 17th Nov 2009, 10:22pm

I think Patricia is wearing one THH, but I can't see as my glasses are misting up!


Posted by: murn 17th Nov 2009, 10:36pm

amazing how good us republicans look laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Nov 2009, 11:40pm

Rab, I had to enlarge; thought it was Sarah Palin at first rolleyes.gif then it's right before your eyes: Large as life tongue.gif

Posted by: ashfield 18th Nov 2009, 08:48am

QUOTE (murn @ 17th Nov 2009, 10:34pm) *
amazing how good us republicans look laugh.gif rolleyes.gif


Republicans attached to crucifix's...mmmmm!

Posted by: carmella 18th Nov 2009, 01:25pm

QUOTE (murn @ 17th Nov 2009, 10:34pm) *
amazing how good us republicans look laugh.gif rolleyes.gif



Aye right enough Murn - since when did Republicans live in Canada? Or maybe you go across the border to vote!!! LOL

Posted by: murn 19th Nov 2009, 03:42pm

oh Carmella there are a good many Republicans in Canada. And many that vote by proxy. But as I am British I am only allowed to vote there.

But perhaps you are questioning my looks and not my political leanings laugh.gif

QUOTE
Republicans attached to crucifix's...mmmmm!


Ashfield Republican woman are used to being crucified by the Liberal Lefties.


Posted by: carmella 19th Nov 2009, 04:19pm

laugh.gif

QUOTE
But perhaps you are questioning my looks and not my political leanings


I doubt it somehow!

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 25th Jan 2010, 08:31pm

Did you think I'd forgotten about this thread? Not on your nelly. I was getting more and more exasperated with these reports that I gave myself a break from the subject.

However, now that I'm cool calm and collected, here's a report to bring the thread up to date, but before I do I have to say (due to some confusion) although the topic mentions the PC brigade, the subjects also include The Human Right's, and the Health and Safety lot also, because for me they all come under the same umbrella.

On January 16th I read online that Seargeant majors have to abandon their beloved shouting at the men because Commanders have decided that "in this modern day and age, the soldiers require a more gentle approach to their training".

Young soldiers should be coaxed, reasoned with, and allowed to think for themselves. So the Sergeant majors are encouraged to "be progressive and discuss tasks" with the recruits...........

OK then boys, please be ever so kind and discuss among yourelves whether you would like to participate in some square bashing this morning. When you have decided, make a further choice, decide who among you is going to trott along to the canteen, where I'll be enjoying a nice cuppa, and inform me of your decision.
Toodle pip for now chaps.


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 25th Jan 2010, 08:44pm

No, Cash, the old ways in the army were the best.
Lads are lined up and the Sgt Major has to impart some sad news to Pvt Frazer.
" FRAZER"
"Here Sgt Major."
"YOUR MUVVA'S DEAD"
Frazer keels over.
Two weeks later the Colonel tells the Sgt Major that he must inform Frazer that his poor dad died too. " But this time, Sgt Major, Be a bit less harsh with the boy.
Lads are lined up again.
"ALL THOSE WIF FAVVAS TAKE ONE STEP FORWARD ... FRAZER! ... WHERE ARE YOU GOING?"
tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rab 25th Jan 2010, 09:50pm


Posted by: Rab 25th Jan 2010, 09:59pm

This won't surprise you then! ohmy.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: Guest 26th Jan 2010, 06:28am

Deepcut

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 26th Jan 2010, 12:55pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 25th Jan 2010, 08:42pm) *
No, Cash, the old ways in the army were the best.
Lads are lined up and the Sgt Major has to impart some sad news to Pvt Frazer.
" FRAZER"
"Here Sgt Major."
"YOUR MUVVA'S DEAD"
Frazer keels over.
Two weeks later the Colonel tells the Sgt Major that he must inform Frazer that his poor dad died too. " But this time, Sgt Major, Be a bit less harsh with the boy.
Lads are lined up again.
"ALL THOSE WIF FAVVAS TAKE ONE STEP FORWARD ... FRAZER! ... WHERE ARE YOU GOING?"


biggrin.gif Love it THH laugh.gif

Posted by: Heather 27th Jan 2010, 01:14am

Rab, that's a cross your dolly bird is wearing in the picture, not a Crucifix. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 27th Jan 2010, 01:20am

Tomi!

As ye where.

Posted by: Rab 28th Jan 2010, 07:17pm

QUOTE (Heather @ 27th Jan 2010, 01:12am) *
Rab, that's a cross your dolly bird is wearing in the picture, not a Crucifix. rolleyes.gif

Must admit, I wasn't really concentrating Heather! laugh.gif

Posted by: Heather 28th Jan 2010, 08:10pm

Gosh Rab it's a bad sign when you start losing your concentration at your age. sad.gif

Maybe you better get one of those Brain Training games. Or you can borrow mine.laugh.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 1st Feb 2010, 02:31pm

You just can't get reliable workers nowadays.




Recruitment agency boss Nicole Mamo of Devenwood Recruitment in Borehamwood Herts, was especially careful to ensure her advert for hospital workers did not offend on grounds of race age or sexual orientation.
However, there was one section of the community she had unintentionally discriminated against...."the completely useless".

You see, when she ran the advert passed the job centre she was told she could not advertise for "reliable and hard working" applicants because it could be offensive to unreliable people.
She also had to battle to have the words "must speak English" included in the advert due to the suitable applicants having to deal with hazardous materials.


The Equality and Human Rights Commissions said "This is in know way in breach of any discrimination law"

Can it possibly be, the HR brigade are at last, beginning to adopt an attitude of commonsense??


Posted by: Jupiter 1st Feb 2010, 04:13pm

My wife is a childminder and occasionaly she needs equipment.This week its a double buggy so we trooped in to Dumbarton Road,Glasgow to hit the charity shops.Thats where she gets a lot of her stuff.
"Any double buggies?" Reply,"Sorry mate cannae sell them,Health and safety"
We couldnt believe it but we got same story in a number of the shops.
Is it not time the state let people get on with life and stop treating us all like kids.As if you would put a child in a dangerous pram.

Posted by: Catherine 1st Feb 2010, 05:21pm

Jupiter maybe your Wife could put an Ad in some local School Bulletin Boards...asking if anyone has a gently used Double Stroller they would like to sell.
It's worth a shot.

Having been in Childcare myself, in my experience Double Strollers tend to take a beating after a while with two young children in them.
After Family used, I've not seen many that I'd be happy to put another two children into myself to be honest.
I can understand Charity shops etc keeping clear of any backlash if a faulty one appears after they've sold it.

After Max refused to go near his I took it downtown to a Womans Shelter, in the hope of them being able to use it.
Even though it was a top of the line stroller that turned into everythin short of an airaplane laugh.gif {it was gifted to us} they couldn't accept it as it was more than a year old.
I felt frustrated for them as they obviously are in need of such items, but I also understood why it could become negligent for them.


Good luck, gently used will be a helluva lot cheaper than buying brand new.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 1st Feb 2010, 06:47pm

Jupiter, I had the same reaction as you when I first read your post but I soon began to realize what Catherine mentioned is correct, unfortunately.

It's the modern sue culture that's brought about shops adopting a cautious and very careful approach regarding what they sell. Rather sad eh.

I offered a lovely 3 piece suit to a charity shop but they couldn't accept it due to the fact the "Fire Safety Label" had somehow detached itself from the base.

Another thing you could do is, if you have transport, go as early as you can to the Meat Market car boot sale Saturdays and Sundays. You never know your luck, and you would be able to examine it on the spot if you you were lucky enough to find one.

I love that boot sale smile.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 1st Feb 2010, 09:41pm

Cash and Catherine,thanks very much for your words of advice.If the weather is OK Sunday we will go to the meat market.
What I found a bit hard to understand was that one of the shops I visited was jam packed with all things electrical from DVD players,videos,TVs, you name it.It also had a lawnmower that Adam used in the garden to cut his grass and I thought,all this and they arent allowed to sell baby buggies.
Is it just me but what has happened to laissez-faire?

Posted by: Catherine 1st Feb 2010, 09:59pm

Mibbe the Weans today are more precious than we werr Jupiter laugh.gif

Funny...I was unfamiliar with that saying and went down to ask the boys there as they'e both taught in French.
Jacob answert 'you do your thing and Ill do mine mum', and his face aw lit up thinkin this might be the case...ah jist looked an said Don't even think about it laugh.gif

Posted by: weebarra13 1st Feb 2010, 10:00pm

Hi Jupiter,
Have you tried www.uk.freecycle.org where people give away items they are finished with, F.O.C. it's worth having look at the website, there are different districts, Glasgow is one of them, you have to collect the item yourself, my daughters friend has got some fantastic things from here, he advertised for a gents bike and got a mountain bike in very good condition. Worth a try. Hope you're lucky.

Irene

Posted by: marydee 1st Feb 2010, 10:16pm

Try Gumtree as well I put my two couches on the Freebies section at 6.30 tonight and they were gone at half past seven.

Posted by: Heather 1st Feb 2010, 10:28pm

Cash, I had the same problem as you with a 3 piece suite. The Charity I contacted refused it for the same reason as yours did.
It was in excellent condition and was put out in the driveway. I hoped someone would pinch it but it got soaked in a downpour of rain and finally the Cleansing Dept. took it away.

As I said, I hoped someome would pinch it because a few years ago we were re-fitting the kitchen and put the old units and sink-unit out for the Cleansing. The sink-unit vanished overnight and before the Cleansing came, a few of the wall units had vanished. We had a laugh about it because if the people who pinched the units had asked us, they would have been told they were welcome to have the lot. laugh.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 2nd Feb 2010, 07:03am

Once again thanks to all for advice.Its all good.

Posted by: Rab 2nd Feb 2010, 08:23pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 1st Feb 2010, 06:45pm) *
I offered a lovely 3 piece suit to a charity shop but they couldn't accept it due to the fact the "Fire Safety Label" had somehow detached itself from the base.

Was that one of them inflammable waistcoats Cash? Or maybe it was because the trousers were flares! laugh.gif

Posted by: Catherine 3rd Feb 2010, 05:57pm

laugh.gif Here Rab Flares are back in...goin get yer best Sailor Suite oot again laugh.gif

Posted by: ashfield 3rd Feb 2010, 06:33pm

I thought Bassets Liquorice allsorts were three piece suites rolleyes.gif

Posted by: kerry4652 3rd Feb 2010, 11:08pm

We had a double buggy, years ago obviously. When we finished using it mrs kerry put it in a shop where they sold it and then gave you a share of the money. The shop packed up over night and buggered off wae aw the stock. I found it funny, ah mean would you really want to pack everything up overnight to steal a few quid.

I would never advise using a double pram, I have been there and I'm sure that pram damaged my wean's heids. Or mibbees it came fae their maw's genes

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 3rd Feb 2010, 11:12pm

Wiz that no' whit y' ca' a moonlight flit?

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 23rd Feb 2010, 11:10pm

Here we go again.


1:
When Irene Sterling's brother was involved in a serious accident and lost his right arm she asked a charge nurse in Corydon's Mayday Hospital if she would trim his toe nails. She was bluntly informed "We don't do personal care"
Ms Sterling later discovered why her request was denied...."Elf and Safety" they have deemed it necessary to order nurses not to cut patients toe nails for fear of being sued if a patient contacts MRSA due to a nick in the skin.
Wonder what the reply would have been if the poor bloke asked to have his left hand nails trimmed.
Wonder if the Health Board are still actually tackling the problem of ridding MRSA from hospitals.
If they are, then they need to look into their staff culture practices in hospital very closely.

2:
Harriet Harman's, fierce PC crusade wants to ban the title "Chairman of the House" to either simply "Chair" or Occupant of the Chair".
MP's were apparently to vote on the matter on 22nd February.

3: Politically Correct devotee, Lothian and Borders Police Chief Constable, David Strang, has asked his officers to change the reference, "sex change" to "transgender journeys"!!!!!



Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 23rd Feb 2010, 11:20pm

Just an article I was reading.

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/




Posted by: TeeHeeHee 23rd Feb 2010, 11:23pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 24th Feb 2010, 12:08am) *
... "transgender journeys"!!!!!


... one small step for man. tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 24th Feb 2010, 08:11am

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 23rd Feb 2010, 11:08pm) *
Ms Sterling later discovered why her request was denied...."Elf and Safety" they have deemed it necessary to order nurses not to cut patients toe nails for fear of being sued if a patient contacts MRSA due to a nick in the skin.

How absurd. How do they get round the problem of giving medication through syringes?

QUOTE
Harriet Harman's, fierce PC crusade wants to ban the title "Chairman of the House" to either simply "Chair" or Occupant of the Chair".

I have always refused to use the term 'Chair', and say Mr Chairman or Madam Chairman.

It is not widely known that the word 'man' originally had no gender association, and was used for men and women alike, as 'person' now is. The word 'woman' is derived from 'wyf man', not 'wife of man' as commonly supposed, but 'wyf [female] man'.

QUOTE
Politically Correct devotee, Lothian and Borders Police Chief Constable, David Strang, has asked his officers to change the reference, "sex change" to "transgender journeys"!!!!!

'I'm feeling a bit frisky, darling, do you fancy a gender journey tonight?'

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 24th Feb 2010, 08:21am

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 24th Feb 2010, 12:08am) *
2:
Harriet Harman's, fierce PC crusade wants to ban the title "Chairman of the House" to either simply "Chair" or Occupant of the Chair".

Since the Chairman of anything is the occupant of the chair, what is there to change?

Posted by: carmella 24th Feb 2010, 10:38am

It's ridiculous, yet another example of MPs having nothing better to think about, or perhaps justifying their salaries - they come up with stupid ideas like this.

A chair is a chair, a person sitting in it, is sitting in a chair. A Chairman or Chairwoman or even a Chair Person.

Posted by: eyebright 24th Feb 2010, 11:29am

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/signs/chap9.htm#Newspeak

I think this article sums up just about everything everybody should know about political correctness and the reasons why our society today is in such sad disarray.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 24th Feb 2010, 01:31pm

QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 24th Feb 2010, 08:09am) *
<snip>It is not widely known that the word 'man' originally had no gender association, and was used for men and women alike, as 'person' now is. The word 'woman' is derived from 'wyf man', not 'wife of man' as commonly supposed, but 'wyf [female] man'.<snip>


That's perfectly correct and it brings to mind a thought, I wonder when Ms Harman will tackle the reference to, Mankind

All suggestions to "you know where to contact her" Ms Harriet Harman .

Posted by: bilbo.s 24th Feb 2010, 01:40pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 24th Feb 2010, 02:29pm) *
That's perfectly correct and it brings to mind a thought, I wonder when Ms Harman will tackle the reference to, Mankind

All suggestions to "you know where to contact her" Ms Harriet Harman .



Harriet Harperson surely - or mibbes Harwoman biggrin.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 24th Feb 2010, 01:47pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 24th Feb 2010, 02:38pm) *
Harriet Harperson surely


laugh.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 24th Feb 2010, 05:36pm

Harriet Harsheman.

Posted by: enrique 25th Feb 2010, 12:19pm

Someone stated that they neither tell or condone raciest jokes even if they sound funny,
Can i put forward a story i have told before on this site and maybe it would bring forth some ideas of what is a racist joke and what is not
The Sunday post had a competition, just after the first man stepped onto the moon , it was that they would give a prize to the best headline in the paper in 20years from then, there were the usual Scotland wins world cup stuff , but one person wrote a headline that read We are losing our heritage said mp for Govan , rubbish shouted the Prime minister Mahoola Bahoola, now is this racist or just someone who had foreseen the future where we would embrace people from all countries and cultures and except them into our society,
Well.

Posted by: Rab 25th Feb 2010, 07:25pm

I would say that history has produced many 'prophets'. This wee story/joke has simply produced one from Glasgow! Why any offence?

Posted by: Rab 25th Feb 2010, 09:55pm

QUOTE (enrique @ 25th Feb 2010, 12:17pm) *
Someone stated that they neither tell or condone raciest jokes even if they sound funny,
Can i put forward a story i have told before on this site and maybe it would bring forth some ideas of what is a racist joke and what is not
The Sunday post had a competition, just after the first man stepped onto the moon , it was that they would give a prize to the best headline in the paper in 20years from then, there were the usual Scotland wins world cup stuff , but one person wrote a headline that read We are losing our heritage said mp for Govan , rubbish shouted the Prime minister Mahoola Bahoola, now is this racist or just someone who had foreseen the future where we would embrace people from all countries and cultures and except them into our society,
Well.

When we have government ministers like this bufoon employed by Brown & Co, the 'joke' pales into insignificance! http://vodpod.com/watch/3053125-the-true-face-of-islam

Posted by: Guest 25th Feb 2010, 10:09pm

QUOTE
...now is this racist or just someone who had foreseen the future where we would embrace people from all countries and cultures and except them into our society ...

Why is it necessary to denigrate other races or cultures by the use of names which are obviously made up and equally obviously designed to make fun of other ethnic groups? Had the "joke" been seriously meant to illustrate the advantages of embracing other cultures it would not have employed the use of pejorative names such as "Mahoola Bahoola"

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 25th Feb 2010, 11:25pm

Actually enrique, that little joke may turn out to be a true prediction.

Give it another 10-20 years (perhaps sooner) and we may very well have a Prime Minister Mahoola Bahoola, Leader of the "New Walamacoomba Party", installed in Parliament.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 26th Feb 2010, 12:30am

QUOTE (Rab @ 25th Feb 2010, 10:53pm) *
When we have government ministers like this bufoon employed by Brown & Co, the 'joke' pales into insignificance! http://vodpod.com/watch/3053125-the-true-face-of-islam

Dare I say, Bring back Disraeli?

Posted by: auchenshuggle 27th Feb 2010, 10:13pm

i liked the way he stayed impartial and neutral, working on behalf of everybody there, i`d vote for him, TO GO HOME. wacko.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 27th Feb 2010, 11:00pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 25th Feb 2010, 11:23pm) *
Actually enrique, that little joke may turn out to be a true prediction.

Give it another 10-20 years (perhaps sooner) and we may very well have a Prime Minister Mahoola Bahoola, Leader of the "New Walamacoomba Party", installed in Parliament.


Cannea be any worse the the present shower of Chumbawamba Party inepts we have now.

I get knocked down, but I get up again
You nay ever gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You nay ever gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You nay ever gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You nay ever gonna keep me down


Aye right, I'll soon sort that oot ya bunch of glaikit haddies.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 28th Feb 2010, 01:42pm

Very good Rabbie LOL.


Here's another one I spotted in a member's post, though I don't think they cottoned on....

"You no longer call it x-ray, all very posh, now named>>>Imaging"

So all references to X-Rays obviously will now have to be changed ie.

X-Ray Dept This Way

Your appointment for your X-Ray will be on...

The little info pamphlets regarding X-Ray's etc, etc.

They will all have to be changed.

WHY ?
Do you care ?
Do patient's care ?
Is some obscure ethnic minority going to be offended by the term, X-Ray ?




Would patients far rather have the costs involved transferred to Patient Care for once ?

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 28th Feb 2010, 02:00pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 28th Feb 2010, 01:40pm) *
Is some obscure ethnic minority going to be offended by the term, X-Ray ?

My suspicion is that the X-ray department is being grouped with a host of new imaging techniques, like ultrasonic, magnetic resonance, computerised tomography, that sort of thing.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 28th Feb 2010, 04:16pm

Over here it's always been called Rontgen Image after the guy who pioneered it.

Posted by: Rab 28th Feb 2010, 06:04pm

All my life I have known it as 'Emergency'. Now it is either 'A&E', 'Trauma Unit' or daftest of all and even more confusing 'Triage' ! What next folks? Any advances?
If 'X-Rays' were good enough for Marie Curie then why change?

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 28th Feb 2010, 07:37pm

QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 28th Feb 2010, 01:58pm) *
My suspicion is that the X-ray department is being grouped with a host of new imaging techniques, like ultrasonic, magnetic resonance, computerised tomography, that sort of thing.

If all hospitals adopt the same policy it's going to involve even more expense!!!

Never-the-less, if your suspicion is correct, and it may very well be as I failed to grasp the fact the hospital is a new one, and therefore could understand the thinking behind the change.

If that is indeed the reason, I must apologise to the PC brigade for getting this one wrong.

Nothing like eating humble pie, eh. Grrrrrrr.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 2nd Mar 2010, 01:41am

Homosexuals may be forced to declare their sexuality to their employer under new proposals from none other than Stonewall Scotland.
They want every public body to produce data on how many homosexuals they employ, in a move to tackle discrimination.
Apparently this is in response to the Labour Government's new Equality Bill.

The proposals, no doubt, will be acceptable to a Ms Harriet Harmen.
For their own sake, I hope Stonewall Scotland have really considered their new proposal very thoroughly because I feel it could come back to haunt them.


Here's an older report from the Telegraph I overlooked.

The NHS boards in Greater Glasgow and Lothian were reported to have banned staff from eating at their desks to avoid offending any Muslims who might have been fasting during Ramadan.

What the NHS in Greater Glasgow and Lothian were obviously unaware of is that some Christians fast on specific days throughout the year also, including, but not only, the months of September/October.

Whatever your views on Catholic/Protestant Christianity, it's clearly obvious Christianity is being eased to the side lines.
Can this be a healthy move for Britain? Nope, I don't think so.


Posted by: Alex MacPhee 3rd Mar 2010, 12:59am

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 2nd Mar 2010, 01:39am) *
Homosexuals may be forced to declare their sexuality to their employer under new proposals from none other than Stonewall Scotland.

Not a snowball's chance in hell of that.

It is, however, possible to estimate pretty accurately the proportion of homosexuals by phrasing the question in a way that no individual's answer can be determined. This is one way you could do it. The question is phrased like this :-

1. I am homosexual.
2. I am heterosexual.

The respondent is given a six-sided die, and instructed to throw it. If it turns up 1, 2 or 3, he answers True or False to question 1. If it turns up 4, 5 or 6, he answers True or False to question 2. He does not say which question he answers, and there is only one answer box for both questions. Anyone reading the form and seeing True or False has no idea whether the answer is to question 1 or 2. It is a relatively simple matter for a statistician to use conditional probabilities, knowing that the probability of 1,2,3 is 0.5 and 4,5,6 is 0.5, to look at the total number of Trues and Falses and work out the proportion of homosexuals (or equivalently heterosexuals) in the responding population. Since no individual answer can be identified, there is no reason to lie when answering.

QUOTE
The NHS boards in Greater Glasgow and Lothian were reported to have banned staff from eating at their desks to avoid offending any Muslims who might have been fasting during Ramadan.

I'd be inclined to doubt this. I have heard of recommendations of this kind, which have been misreported as bans. One might equally seek to ban Muslims eating meat on Fridays in case they offend Catholic traditionalists who'd be going for the haddock mornay in the staff canteen.

Posted by: Mathieson 3rd Mar 2010, 06:07pm

All very interesting I'm sure, but who the hell's business is anybody else's sexuality?

Posted by: Rabbie 3rd Mar 2010, 06:37pm

Mines, ah need to be sure I am dealing with a real woman that does things the way nature intended.

Ah've hud mair that a few close shaves with fur coats in Amsterdam.
tongue.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 3rd Mar 2010, 09:23pm

QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 3rd Mar 2010, 12:57am) *
Not a snowball's chance in hell of that.

It is, however, possible to estimate pretty accurately the proportion of homosexuals by phrasing the question in a way that no individual's answer can be determined. This is one way you could do it. The question is phrased like this :-

1. I am homosexual.
2. I am heterosexual.

The respondent is given a six-sided die, and instructed to throw it. If it turns up 1, 2 or 3, he answers True or False to question 1. If it turns up 4, 5 or 6, he answers True or False to question 2. He does not say which question he answers, and there is only one answer box for both questions. Anyone reading the form and seeing True or False has no idea whether the answer is to question 1 or 2. It is a relatively simple matter for a statistician to use conditional probabilities, knowing that the probability of 1,2,3 is 0.5 and 4,5,6 is 0.5, to look at the total number of Trues and Falses and work out the proportion of homosexuals (or equivalently heterosexuals) in the responding population. Since no individual answer can be identified, there is no reason to lie when answering.
<snip>

Might have been better sending that to "Stonewall Scotland" Alex.



QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 3rd Mar 2010, 12:57am) *
<snip> One might equally seek to ban Muslims eating meat on Fridays in case they offend Catholic traditionalists who'd be going for the haddock mornay in the staff canteen.

I should jolly well think so too. Not forgetting of course, Christian traditionalists who participate in their annual fast.




Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 3rd Mar 2010, 09:27pm

QUOTE (Mathieson @ 3rd Mar 2010, 06:05pm) *
<snip> but who the hell's business is anybody else's sexuality?
Absolutely nobodies, Mathieson.


Posted by: Mathieson 4th Mar 2010, 12:45am

Agreed Cash, although I certainly don't consider myself PC.

In fact, I just love it when the PC nazis find themselves in a quandary. Such as those who lectured us that we must have more women in positions of power. Then they got Thatcher. Or those that moaned about the injustice of white rule in South Africa then we got Robert Mugabe and other such charmers.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Mar 2010, 12:50am

QUOTE (Mathieson @ 4th Mar 2010, 01:43am) *
Agreed Cash, although I certainly don't consider myself PC.

In fact, I just love it when the PC nazis find themselves in a quandary.


When were the Nazis ever PC? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Mar 2010, 12:58am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 4th Mar 2010, 12:48am) *
When were the Nazis ever PC? rolleyes.gif
Oh here, right enough THH, that got me thinking.
Mathieson, be careful of what could be thought of as strong emotional sentences, one member is cooling off their heels (and quite rightly so) for that very same reason at the moment.

cash.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Mar 2010, 01:08am

Yeah, be careful ya left/right wing, racist, Nazi, Christian/Atheist scumbag.
(probabably a prod anywae ... an' canny spell iether or either )

Ahh, that's better tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Mar 2010, 01:13am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 4th Mar 2010, 01:06am) *
Yeah, be careful ya left/right wing, racist, Nazi, Christian/Atheist scumbag.
(probabably a prod anywae ... an' canny spell iether or either )

Ahh, that's better





laugh.gif


Posted by: Rabbie 4th Mar 2010, 01:15am

Yer no thinking wit I am...

Posted by: Rab 4th Mar 2010, 12:40pm

Why don't we call it political incorrectness cos thats what it is, isn't it?


Posted by: Mathieson 4th Mar 2010, 01:21pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 4th Mar 2010, 12:56am) *
Mathieson, be careful of what could be thought of as strong emotional sentences, one member is cooling off their heels (and quite rightly so) for that very same reason at the moment.
cash.


Oh dear! How come? Was he (or should that be he/she?) sidelined by the PC nazis? laugh.gif

Posted by: Mathieson 4th Mar 2010, 01:23pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 4th Mar 2010, 12:48am) *
When were the Nazis ever PC? rolleyes.gif


Aw naw! The terminology nazis are here as well. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Mar 2010, 01:30pm

QUOTE (Mathieson @ 4th Mar 2010, 01:19pm) *
Oh dear! How come? Was he (or should that be he/she?) sidelined by the PC nazis?

No, just the administrator and owner of GGDB. ohmy.gif

biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Mar 2010, 01:32pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 4th Mar 2010, 01:13am) *
Yer no thinking wit I am...

Whit's that then Rabbie?

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Mar 2010, 01:53pm

QUOTE (Mathieson @ 4th Mar 2010, 02:21pm) *
Aw naw! The terminology nazis are here as well. ohmy.gif

Heh, I've got one for a neighbour ... I should know tongue.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 4th Mar 2010, 02:02pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 4th Mar 2010, 01:30pm) *
Whit's that then Rabbie?


Jings, ave forgotten.

Och, jist minded. Was an identity crisis and paranoia setting in. I had a fleeting thought Math was Kerry breaking his curfew and he's coming back tae get me.

Hope mass paranoia isnea going tae set in noo.

laugh.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Mar 2010, 02:40pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 4th Mar 2010, 02:00pm) *
Jings, ave forgotten.

Och, jist minded. Was an identity crisis and paranoia setting in. I had a fleeting thought Math was Kerry breaking his curfew and he's coming back tae get me.

Hope mass paranoia isnea going tae set in noo.

laugh.gif


Don't worry Rabbie, IP's are easily traceable if one so desires, so we can all rest easy. laugh.gif

Posted by: Mathieson 4th Mar 2010, 06:47pm

QUOTE (Cash-Ma-Giro @ 4th Mar 2010, 01:28pm) *
No, just the administrator and owner of GGDB.



Some folks getting a tad overly touchy but I'll take your statement above as a warning then and mind my 'Ps and Qs' from now on. And no rabbie, 'Math' is not anybody esle, curfew'd or otherwise. smile.gif

Posted by: Gallusbisom 4th Mar 2010, 07:19pm

Jist a wee minute here, not sure that took your meaning correctly there Mathieson, or maybe I have missed a some posts. Have had a lot of trouble with my computer for a while but Martin is a great admin., and allows a lot of "freedom of speech" etc.

Martin is very fair and allows all of us to have our "rants" and "raves" before stepping in to bring some clarity to the theme.

GB

P.S. I may have missed a couple of posts but I am trying to catch up.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 4th Mar 2010, 07:27pm

Calm down dear, it's only a warning laugh.gif

Posted by: Mathieson 4th Mar 2010, 07:46pm

QUOTE (Gallusbisom @ 4th Mar 2010, 07:17pm) *
GB

P.S. I may have missed a couple of posts but I am trying to catch up.


It's OK besom, we'll wait for ye. smile.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 22nd Mar 2010, 10:38pm

Under Harriet (Harmpersons) Harman's new Equality Laws, "vegans", "teetotallers", "pacifists" and "atheists" are to be given protection against discrimination.
These groups now join "pagans" "Muslims" and "homosexuals". The legislation also covers any "religious belief", or even "non religious belief". "Scientology" and "humanism".

Interestingly, she specifically mentions Muslims but not Christians. I personally take the view that Ms Harman is discriminating against Christians by not naming them specifically also, more so as this is a Christian country.

So, if I choose to post in a Christian themed post, as I did do in the past, you are all now banned from posting any discriminatory words in your replies to that Christian themed post.



JC rules. laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 22nd Mar 2010, 11:41pm

It would please me to be referred to in future as a non denominational, instead of an anti-Jew, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian or fallen away Prod, thank you. tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 23rd Mar 2010, 12:27am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 22nd Mar 2010, 11:58pm) *
It would please me to be referred to in future as a non denominational, instead of an anti-Jew, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian or fallen away Prod, thank you.

I've mentioned a few times that "I'm a believer in, and follower of, the teachings of a man with the initials JC". (even seeing the man's name in writing is enough to put people off, but I understand that)

I'm half tim/half proddie dog but reared as a proddie dog, though again as I've mentioned before, I'm not a proddie dog because I'm not a protester.
I consider myself, as you now do, even tough you may have been jesting THH, non denominational. wink.gif

Either way, + 10 4 U.

cash.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 5th Apr 2010, 12:48am

Cobbles Dangerous For Postmen.



QUOTE
Royal Mail has upset residents of a Devon town by refusing to deliver post along a "dangerous" cobbled street.

The regular postman refused after slipping on Bilton Terrace, in Bideford, before Christmas.

A Royal Mail manager then visited the terrace and told residents deliveries were being suspended because the lane was too slippery and uneven.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8499000.stm

cobblers, I mean cash.

Posted by: Heather 5th Apr 2010, 12:57pm

I have not read this Thread for a while, so I was browsing through it and clicked on Rab's link on Post 254. Listening to that guy made my blood run cold.

What does it say for the indigenous people of this Country when we sit back and allow this man to speak as he did???
Can you imagine a Christian man making a speech like that in Saudi Arabia and living to tell the tale!!!!

If that was a man of another religion, I.E. Christian, his speech would have been printed in all the newspapers and he would have been called a RACIST/BIGOT and forced to resign.
But we are not allowed to speak out as it would be offensive to the Muslims in this Country the majority of whom are immigrants into Britain.

I dread to think what kind of Country we are leaving to our g'children & g'g'children!!! Will they thank us for being silent while Britain was taken over by a religion whose culture and customs are alien to Britain and their lives are ruled by a draconian religious law, Sharia?????

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 11th May 2010, 01:27am

Remember pinning the tail on the donkey? Yes? well, according to a report by Sean Poulter of the Mail, the game is under threat because parents consider it an 'elf and safety issue.
Mind you, remember when we used to play it at parties, then afterwards our wee fingers would be absolutely pouring with blood. rolleyes.gif

Tesco's children's party buyer, Vicki Rolston said "Some parents don't want the donkey game because of safety concerns".

Nicola Lammond, of parent's website netmums.co.uk said "pin the tail on a donkey is a safety issue for some mums. They prefer versions with blue tack rather than pins".

Well why don't they just go and buy the blue tack versions. Duh.
Tsk.

Posted by: Cash-Ma-Giro 12th May 2010, 02:33pm

In December last year, Jill Fraser's 73 year old mother was in hospital following a terrible head injury. She couldn't speak and could hardly move. The poor old dear was in complete despair.
So the daughter, having read that music can stimulate an injured brain, suggested to a nurse that she would like to bring in an iPod with her mother's favourite tunes.
NOPE... "It would be an 'elf and safety issue".

A few days later the daughter asked if her 14 year old daughter's choral group could entertain the patients.
NOPE...Norovirus outbreak made them an "infection control risk".

When it passed she asked again.
NOPE... "The children would have to have a "Criminal Record Bureau Police Check", and that could take months.

Then the daughter brought in a tiny, brand new, artificial Christmas tree.
NOPE...the next day she was told to remove it, "an infection risk" you see.

Could she bring flowers in to give her mother some cheer?
NOPE... "an infection risk"

What about putting up some posters on the bare walls.
NOPE..."infection issues"

What about a birthday cake for her mum to cheer her up.
NOPE... a birthday candle on the cake would be "a fire risk"

What about bringing in a DVD player so that the patients could be stimulated by the great musicals, or even a comedy series.
NOPE... "it would be a serious 'elf and safety issue"

So she brought in a brand new one in, still in its box with all its leads.
AAAH, it was accepted BUT, only after it had completed a Portable Appliance Test.
Took 10 days before she got it back. It gave the patients immense pleasure.




Posted by: Rab 12th May 2010, 06:15pm

QUOTE (Heather @ 5th Apr 2010, 02:00pm) *
I have not read this Thread for a while, so I was browsing through it and clicked on Rab's link on Post 254. Listening to that guy made my blood run cold.

What does it say for the indigenous people of this Country when we sit back and allow this man to speak as he did???
Can you imagine a Christian man making a speech like that in Saudi Arabia and living to tell the tale!!!!

If that was a man of another religion, I.E. Christian, his speech would have been printed in all the newspapers and he would have been called a RACIST/BIGOT and forced to resign.
But we are not allowed to speak out as it would be offensive to the Muslims in this Country the majority of whom are immigrants into Britain.

I dread to think what kind of Country we are leaving to our g'children & g'g'children!!! Will they thank us for being silent while Britain was taken over by a religion whose culture and customs are alien to Britain and their lives are ruled by a draconian religious law, Sharia?????


Nice to see Malik gettin the heave-ho this election. By the way - who gave him the job?

Posted by: petalpeeps 13th May 2010, 12:24am

Cash , It must be very changed days in hospitals , as when i was 19 ,was in a concert party that went to hospital wards to entertain the elderly , and there was no objections . We were made very welcome, and there weren't as many bugs going around in those days . The cleaning in hospitals is not what it once was sad.gif

Posted by: ashfield 13th May 2010, 08:10am

The number of cases of MRSA and Cdif are going down so perhaps they are doing something right

Posted by: Jupiter 8th Aug 2012, 02:27pm

A poster featuring Nude woman in a red armchair by Pablo Picasso and adverising a forthcoming art expo in Edinburgh has been covered up at Edinburgh airport following a number of complaints.
Council have asked it to be altered before being replaced.
Would such a move happened at Glasgow?Are we more liberal minded in the west or does the image of a naked female form offend?
It seems a real petty move to me particularly as the image in question is in abstract form.

Posted by: Scotsman 8th Aug 2012, 03:22pm

This madness could happen anywhere because the PC clowns are roaming mad around all the halls of power with nothing better to do than slap a ban on this or force a restriction on that. The quicker we can get rid of them then the quicker we can get back to any chance of a kind of normal life where people can think for themselves.... if you dont like it just look away.... simples!!