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> New Sectarian Laws In Scotland, Laws to combat sectarianism
mitchell
post 2nd Jul 2011, 10:53pm
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32 arrested for Sectarian offences.
Story from the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13993505


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post 2nd Jul 2011, 10:57pm
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QUOTE (GG @ 2nd Jul 2011, 01:20pm) *
Dunvegan, or anyone else, please make sure that if you read any such provocative rantings on this forum, you use the report button to bring them to my attention.

GG.

Totally agree with you on this as I cant see any rantings on this thread.
only from the mentioned posters post earlier.
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post 2nd Jul 2011, 11:35pm
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QUOTE (wombat @ 2nd Jul 2011, 11:11pm) *
rolleyes.gif care tae elaborate on the "secret grip" benny?

and dont tell me its a secret biggrin.gif

Aye, nae bother, Wombat.

Ye put yer pinkie in, ye put yer pinkie out,
Ye take yer index finger, an ye shoogle it about,
Ye ask, "How auld's yer granny?", an ye gie yer haun a flip,
An that's the masonci grip. Oy! biggrin.gif


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post 2nd Jul 2011, 11:37pm
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post 2nd Jul 2011, 11:49pm
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rolleyes.gif i feel like dancing after your post benny ,hope no one's offended by my "green "shoes?

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post 3rd Jul 2011, 12:41am
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QUOTE (benny @ 2nd Jul 2011, 11:28pm) *
Aye, nae bother, Wombat.

Ye put yer pinkie in, ye put yer pinkie out,
Ye take yer index finger, an ye shoogle it about,
Ye ask, "How auld's yer granny?", an ye gie yer haun a flip,
An that's the masonci grip. Oy!

The Compass and Square - tools that I've used in my childhood, through my aircraft career and in my cellar in retirement.
In '64 I saw a Masonic ring in the window of a Blackpool jeweler and knew I must have it. It was, to me, sheer beauty; a compass and square in gold on a deep blue background. When I went in to look closer at it I found it was a reversible signet ring; the stone was on a pivot, so I was sold ... and bought the ring and had my initial signature inscribed on the reverse but rarely showed that side.
I shared a room in Blackpool with a Glasgow lad who was at that time assistant manager in the Foxhall Hotel. He now and again asked me; to my mind, silly questions - one of which was how auld's yer granny?
On answering Och, jesus, she's been deid fur dunkies years he flew across the room and dived on me bringing me from the bed to the floor under a rain of blows wi' me thinking he'd flipped his bliddy lid. By the time I'd got him quietened down he was callin' me an imposter (I hadn't given the ring a thought).
But I had a lot of bad luck with the ring; the pivot kept breakin' off (I wore it all the time; even to work) and I was always paying to have it repaired. At Clydebridge Steel Works I gave it; in bits, to a workmate, showing him the signature on the reverse joking that he'd have to change his name. He said he'd wear it right side up because he was no imposter.
I wished him luck anyway.
I'd loved to have kept that ring purely because of the insignia with the compass and square but the number of times I've nearly lost fingers because of rings (I used to wear 2 on each hand ; now none rolleyes.gif ) it's probably just as well I gave it away.

* when he asked how auld's yer granny? I might have given him ma maw's co-op divi number if I'd known what he was after. tongue.gif laugh.gif


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post 3rd Jul 2011, 12:57am
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QUOTE (mitchell @ 2nd Jul 2011, 10:46pm) *
32 arrested for Sectarian offences.
Story from the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13993505

No, mitchell, if you read the report, it says: "... six of these [32 arrests were] for sectarian offences". Assuming all six 'offences' result in convictions in a court of law, then that is six people out of 8,000 ... less than 0.1%.

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post 3rd Jul 2011, 01:05am
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Maybe so GG, but those identified at committing the offences were among the followers.
So what did the other 26 get lifted for?
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post 3rd Jul 2011, 01:59am
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QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 3rd Jul 2011, 10:34am) *
The Compass and Square - tools that I've used in my childhood, through my aircraft career and in my cellar in retirement.
In '64 I saw a Masonic ring in the window of a Blackpool jeweler and knew I must have it. It was, to me, sheer beauty; a compass and square in gold on a deep blue background. When I went in to look closer at it I found it was a reversible signet ring; the stone was on a pivot, so I was sold ... and bought the ring and had my initial signature inscribed on the reverse but rarely showed that side.
I shared a room in Blackpool with a Glasgow lad who was at that time assistant manager in the Foxhall Hotel. He now and again asked me; to my mind, silly questions - one of which was how auld's yer granny?
On answering Och, jesus, she's been deid fur dunkies years he flew across the room and dived on me bringing me from the bed to the floor under a rain of blows wi' me thinking he'd flipped his bliddy lid. By the time I'd got him quietened down he was callin' me an imposter (I hadn't given the ring a thought).
But I had a lot of bad luck with the ring; the pivot kept breakin' off (I wore it all the time; even to work) and I was always paying to have it repaired. At Clydebridge Steel Works I gave it; in bits, to a workmate, showing him the signature on the reverse joking that he'd have to change his name. He said he'd wear it right side up because he was no imposter.
I wished him luck anyway.
I'd loved to have kept that ring purely because of the insignia with the compass and square but the number of times I've nearly lost fingers because of rings (I used to wear 2 on each hand ; now none rolleyes.gif ) it's probably just as well I gave it away.

* when he asked how auld's yer granny? I might have given him ma maw's co-op divi number if I'd known what he was after. tongue.gif laugh.gif

'Never be out of a job in Scotland wearing a "grippers" ring TH!!!!
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post 3rd Jul 2011, 02:13am
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QUOTE (mitchell @ 3rd Jul 2011, 12:58am) *
Maybe so GG, but those identified at committing the offences were among the followers.
So what did the other 26 get lifted for?

I think we should await a full report from Strathclyde Police as to the nature of the alleged offences; however, looks like the work done by the Orange Lodge and Glasgow City Council has been very worthwhile.

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post 3rd Jul 2011, 04:04am
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Yes but at a cost to the taxpayer.

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post 3rd Jul 2011, 04:31am
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THH,the type of ring you are referring to is commonly known as a swivel ring and is commonplace within the craft.The grip which has been parodied is very discreet and I would defy anyone who is not in the craft to say they recognise it.I make no secret of being a Mason and have been since 1975.Non sectarian and charitable organisation.Due to my views changing since my initiation I have not been an attender at Lodge meetings for many a year but I live by the principles of Freemasonery.
Ive had many a chuckle over the years and cant begin to describe some of the handshakes and "knowing looks."
Quite simply,for the uninitiateds' information a member of the craft can ask someone if he is a brother by giving him a challenge when meeting simply by giving him "the slip", so dont be fooled if you find yourself in a vice like grip getting your knuckles cracked.......it just doesnt happen.
Other innoccuous questions might follow but in reality a mason will know when he is in anothers company very quickly.
I hope this wee bit of Sunday morning trivia has been interesting.
On a more serious note Id like to point out that there is a world of difference between Freemasonry and any other Loyalist/Republican/"religious" organisations which have a narrower overall view and concepts. rolleyes.gif
Any man can be a Freemason,all you have to do is ask.
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post 3rd Jul 2011, 09:57am
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As a simple cowan, Joop, ah'd like tae point out that, while there might be a world of difference between Freemasonry and such other organisations as you mentioned, there isn't always a world of difference between Freemasons and the members of such organisations. Ah've known some very bigoted Freemasons - despite the high falutin principles of the craft, On the other hand, ah've also known some very nice guys who were Freemasons. so ah'm no decryin Freemasonry as an institution, only pointin oot that there are baddies as well as goodies within the ranks.


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post 3rd Jul 2011, 11:17am
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Benny,Ive no doubt what you say is true as there is a big cross section of people in it.
There are principles which I try to adhere to but again you are talking from personal experience and I have absolutely no reason disbelieve you.
Joop
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post 3rd Jul 2011, 06:18pm
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Never did me any good.....and I always show the '2 and a half' to anyone interested....
(have a close look at my avatar)... laugh.gif
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