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> Uk Independence Referendum - Brexit, Yes or No on EU membership
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Kemedian
post 13th Jul 2015, 08:31am
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Of course you're being inflammatory, ktv.

If your allegation is true, you could have me arrested!

I ceased taking offense from your name calling a long time ago.

You are an online bully, whose behaviour is in breach of Board Rules.

I, however, shall continue posting, whether you like it or not.
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ktv
post 13th Jul 2015, 09:34am
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arrested?

GG's inbox must be bursting now eh


back to the topic
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serabash
post 13th Jul 2015, 09:42am
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QUOTE (ktv @ 13th Jul 2015, 09:36am) *
makes no difference to me that some one is defending a troll mate.

im not trying to silence you

im not trying to bully you

im also not insulting you or using inflammatory statements.

saying your a troll is a factual statement (ive repeatedly gave you the definition you asked for)...

the victim card wont work as long as you keep trolling.

now about that topic of the uk in/out referendum......


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Kemedian
post 14th Jul 2015, 10:28am
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QUOTE (ktv @ 13th Jul 2015, 10:42am) *
Arrested?

Don't be so naive.

'Trolling' on social media can be a criminal offence, as can 'cyber bullying'. There have been numerous convictions including high profile cases in Scotland. So, perhaps you should stop spoiling this thread or put your claim to the test.

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  • Cyber bullying: bullying conducted using the social media or other electronic means.
  • Revenge pron: usually following the breakup of a couple, the electronic publication or distribution of sexually explicit material (principally images) of one or both of the couple, the material having originally been provided consensually for private use.
  • Trolling: intentional disruption of an online forum, by causing offence or starting an argument.
  • Virtual mobbing: whereby a number of individuals use social media or messaging to make comments to or about another individual, usually because they are opposed to that person's opinions.
  • www.publications.parliament.uk/social_media_and_criminal_offences


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Approach to be taken by Prosecutors

Prosecutors should first make an initial assessment of the content of the communication and the conduct in question so as to distinguish between:
  1. Communications which specifically target an individual or group of individuals in particular communications which are considered to be hate crime, domestic abuse, or stalking.
  2. Communications which may constitute threats of violence to the person, incite public disorder or constitute threats to damage property.
  3. Communications which may amount to a breach of a court order or contravene legislation making it a criminal offence to release or publish information relating to proceedings.
  4. Communications which do not fall into categories 1,2 or 3 above but are nonetheless considered to be grossly offensive, indecent or obscene or involve the communication of false information about an individual or group of individuals which results in adverse consequences for that individual or group of individuals.
Category 4 Offences

Prosecutors should only consider action in this category of cases where they are satisfied there is sufficient evidence that the communication goes beyond being:
  • Offensive, shocking or disturbing
  • Satirical, iconoclastic or rude
  • The expression of unpopular or unfashionable opinion even if distasteful to some or painful to those subjected to it
  • An exchange of communication that forms part of a democratic debate


A media report from the time of publication:
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As prosecutors we will continue to do all in our power to bring those who commit these crimes to justice, and I would encourage anyone who thinks they have been victim of such a crime to report it to the police.
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serabash
post 14th Jul 2015, 10:45am
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by rashelle reid.

I was always told.....

I was always told I’m British, since I was a little girl
I was always told of the “Greatness” of this little isle.
I was always told I’m British, it was the only box to tick
I was always told I’m British, they must really think I’m thick!
I was always told I’m British, but I’ve always been a Scot
I was always told I’m British but I’ve always known I’m not.
I was always told I’m British as they sent the troops to war
I was always told I’m British but I had the lion’s roar.
I was always told I’m British as they raised the Union Jack
I was always told I’m British as they plotted behind my back
I was always told I’m British for 40 years that’s been true.
I was always told I’m British, we’ll force our flag on you.
I was always told I’m British, my licence has to bear the flag
I was always told I’m British the whole idea makes me gag.
I was always told I’m British and the bloodshed bore my name
I was always told I’m British and I’ve always held the shame
I was always told I’m British when even as a child I knew
I was always told I’m British but I knew it wasn’t true.
I was always told I’m British but Scotland was my home
I was always told I’m British it made me feel alone.
I was always told I’m British but it never will be true
I was always told I’m British but my flag is saltire blue.
I was always told I’m British and that we’re going to war.
I was always told I’m British and it made my heart sore.
I was always told I’m British but it will never be the case
I was always told I’m British as if it’s a master race.
I was always told I’m British but I’ll never buy the lie
I was always told I’m British, at times it made me cry.
I have always known I’m Scottish born to this land I call home
I have always known I’m Scottish as in these lands I roamed
I have always known I’m Scottish because home is where you’re born
I have always known I’m Scottish as the saltire I adorned.
I have always known I’m Scottish as my history lay in tatters
I have always known I’m Scottish and how our dreams were shattered.
I have always known I’m Scottish and no matter what you do
I’ll always know I’m Scottish because in my heart it’s true.
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ktv
post 14th Jul 2015, 10:51am
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Kem your post proves my point entirely.

your not a good enough troll to fit into any of those definitions though.

youl fall into the mildly annoying, uturning, contradictory kind which you already have the definitions for.

also having clicked on your link further proves my point when you notice you've edited what is said in the report you quote to suit your "im innocent" agenda.

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category 4 the communication does not
constitute a credible threat of violence or of damage to property or intention
to incite public disorder or form part of a course of conduct targeted against
a particular individual or group of individuals but nonetheless is considered
to be threatening in some way or to be grossly offensive, indecent or
obscene or involve the communication of false information about an
individual or group of individuals which results in adverse
consequences for that individual or group of individuals .


which does not apply to your type of trolling

so evidence enough it would seem (to most) so perhaps you can get on with the actual topic of the EU ref now then.
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Kemedian
post 14th Jul 2015, 10:54am
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We're all Scottish, Serabash, and some of us like being other things too. smile.gif
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Kemedian
post 14th Jul 2015, 10:56am
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QUOTE (ktv @ 14th Jul 2015, 11:59am) *
Kem your post proves my point entirely.

How pathetic.

Since you won't report me, this makes you nothing more than a petty coward.
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Betsy2009
post 14th Jul 2015, 11:04am
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Oh for goodness sake - enough already!
This nit-picking of the minutiae is unnecessary and unpleasant and, no doubt, off-putting for others who may want to join a conversation but are worried that instead of taking the gist of what's being said it will just be a point scoring exercise.
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ktv
post 14th Jul 2015, 11:05am
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now now trolly...your now demanding I call the police on you?

you clearly (deliberately) misunderstand what kind of troll you are.

the same as you deliberately misunderstand what the greek referendum was for, what the uk eu in/out referendum is for and most likely what the Scottish referendum was for...all deliberate so you could troll these boards.

also its not in my nature to grass of the weak (of mind) and feeble anyway, how would I feel if you where dodging soap in a young offenders while your family lived in poverty eh.

so about this eu in out thing?

you in?

you out?

let me guess...your in/out!

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Kemedian
post 14th Jul 2015, 11:40am
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QUOTE (ktv @ 14th Jul 2015, 11:59am) *
So, perhaps you can get on with the actual topic of the EU ref now then?

Gladly, since it was I who started and you who interrupted it. rolleyes.gif

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Predictably, this paper leads with a negative portrayal of the EU's third huge bailout of Greece's stricken economy.

QUOTE (Alex Salmond, SNP Foreign Affairs spokesman @ 1st June, 2015)
It is essential we have a distinctly strong Scottish voice in the EU referendum – and that is exactly what the SNP will bring – a campaign that focuses on a positive agenda about Scotland’s role and place in the EU.

We need a campaign that concentrates on the real issues that we have to face. An EU wide strategy to deal with the tragedy unfolding every day in the Mediterranean: a campaign that ensures that we take multi-national action on climate change and that promotes a living wage to give dignity to workers . These are some of the issues – the debate must not be dragged down to the Tory and Ukip Euro- sceptic view which dominates the Westminster parties thinking.

Isn't there another issue dominating European Politics right now, Mr Salmond? Specifically, the EU strategy to deal with Greece's debt problem? The kind of policy that your party campaigns fiercely against here in the UK?

Can the Scottish Government positively spin the Greek tragedy on the front of today's National (i.e. the rescue package supported by the UK and other major European Governments) or is the SNP going to be consistent in its opposition to austerity?
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ktv
post 14th Jul 2015, 12:43pm
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im sure if you asked salmond or the scots gov theyd tell you

whats the uk gov/labour/libdems approach to the situation?

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Predictably, this paper leads with a negative portrayal of the EU's third huge bailout of Greece's stricken economy.

do you think there is any positive spin that could be added?

do you now think we should leave the eu to prevent them sticking more austerity measures on us? (as you've claimed they might).

I personally think we should remain part of the eu(bringing it back to the actual topic) but remain outside of its economic control.
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post 14th Jul 2015, 01:02pm
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If we're part of the EU then we're part of their financial control:

"Britain could face a 1bn exposure to Greece's emergency bailout in the coming weeks, it has emerged.


European bureaucrats are considering the use of a controversial emergency fund, entailing the use of UK funds, to support Greece's economy over the coming weeks."


but perhaps there's hope?

"A Treasury source said: "The idea that British taxpayers' money is going to be on the line in this latest deal is a non-starter.""

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/britai...cWG0B?ocid=iehp
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ktv
post 14th Jul 2015, 01:17pm
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aaaarrrghhhh I just wrote a big reply then my net cut out haha

ye betsy I meant like monetary union.

the greeks had to borrow billions from the ecb to join the euro then couldn't afford the wonga style repayments leading them to borrow and more. now theyl have to flog off their assets to the banks so they can pay the banks back with the money the banks give them for stripping their assets.

normal economic policy for the uk though as they've sold everything they possibly could just so they could give large tax breaks/subs to major companies (usually the ones that bought the assets)....makes sense eh
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post 14th Jul 2015, 01:54pm
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This United Kingdom is my home and I'll always be British, but I so dearly wish that Scotland had embraced the courage voted YES.
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