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> Scottish Independence, About voting yes/no
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JAGZ1876
post 17th Nov 2019, 07:35pm
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hope you guys keep your politicians in check when scotland regains independence.

treat them as well paid business managers ,with a particular portfolio

as thats all they are. thumbup.gif


No Wombat, we'll treat them as public servants to do the will of the people of Scotland, if they fail us they will be out on their arses.

That's true democracy. yes.gif
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post 17th Nov 2019, 07:51pm
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post 17th Nov 2019, 09:48pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 17th Nov 2019, 07:35pm) *
No Wombat, we'll treat them as public servants to do the will of the people of Scotland, if they fail us they will be out on their arses.

That's true democracy. :yes:

Jagz could you tell us which political party will take their place? What does the will of the people mean? Will that require another referendum to determine what the people want? Going by the conduct on this wee forum, it will be mayhem to determine what the will of the people is.

By the way public servants don’t get thrown out. They are known as Civil Servants. They do the will of the Government in power, not the people. So what will happen is that a general election will take place, much to your dismay, if Independence becomes a reality. It has to take place because we are not voting for a one party state. The people of Scotland will vote for the party which they support.

I cannot envisage that all of the present SNP, MEP’s and MP’s, have the same political views regarding issues which matter to the General Public.

Danny
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post 17th Nov 2019, 10:09pm
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post 18th Nov 2019, 06:51am
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 17th Nov 2019, 08:35pm) *
No Wombat, we'll treat them as public servants to do the will of the people of Scotland, if they fail us they will be out on their arses.

That's true democracy. yes.gif


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post 18th Nov 2019, 08:09am
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QUOTE (DannyH @ 17th Nov 2019, 09:48pm) *
Jagz could you tell us which political party will take their place?

What does the will of the people mean?

Will that require another referendum to determine what the people want?

Danny


Whatever party we choose,

It means exactly what it say's on the tin.

No we won't "require another referendum", it's called a 'General Election', thats where we listen to what all the political parties say the'll do in their manifestos then we decide which one we want to represent us in government.
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post 18th Nov 2019, 08:16am
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QUOTE (DannyH @ 17th Nov 2019, 09:48pm) *
By the way public servants don’t get thrown out. They are known as Civil Servants.

So what will happen is that a general election will take place, much to your dismay, if Independence becomes a reality.

Danny


Politicians are there to "serve the public" hence "public servants", not to be confused with "civil servants".

Why would i be dismayed at having a General Election after we regain our independence?
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 18th Nov 2019, 08:16am) *
Politicians are there to "serve the public" hence "public servants", not to be confused with "civil servants".

Why would i be dismayed at having a General Election after we regain our independence?


Jagz get real. Politicians are there to serve the public? Give us a break.

The reason you will be dismayed is, according to you, all of the other political parties are rubbish. The only one you have a good word for is the SNP. You will have a wee problem there.

By the way if Scotland does gains Independence, a number of the present day SNP, Westminster based MP’s will be cringing. They will be out of a job, and cursing their big mouthed leaders.

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post 18th Nov 2019, 11:38am
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QUOTE (DannyH @ 18th Nov 2019, 10:35am) *
Jagz get real. Politicians are there to serve the public? Give us a break.

The reason you will be dismayed is, according to you, all of the other political parties are rubbish. The only one you have a good word for is the SNP. You will have a wee problem there.

By the way if Scotland does gains Independence, a number of the present day SNP, Westminster based MP’s will be cringing. They will be out of a job, and cursing their big mouthed leaders.

Danny


Complete and utter rubbish from beginning to end.

Really disappointed with you Danny. unsure.gif
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post 18th Nov 2019, 11:46am
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 18th Nov 2019, 08:16am) *
Politicians are there to "serve the public" hence "public servants", not to be confused with "civil servants".

Why would i be dismayed at having a General Election after we regain our independence?


Hi Jagz

I am back again. Being old, it takes me longer to gather my thoughts on past events.

So, taking up your opinion that politicians are there to serve the public. Was Tony Blair serving the public when he took us into a war with Bush as ally against Saddam Hussein?

A majority of the UK electorate voted to leave the EU. Politicians are now blocking that democratic outcome. Tony Blair’s son Hillary Blair has now got himself written into British history by having an act of Parliament named after himself. This act prevents the will of the people who voted to leave the EU to be carried out. Parliament is to have the final say.

Please, please don’t tell me a majority of the Scottish electorate voted to stay in the EU. A majority had previously voted to stay in the UK. These are two different issues. Something the SNP ignores.

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post 18th Nov 2019, 02:03pm
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Please, please don’t tell me a majority of the Scottish electorate voted to stay in the EU. A majority had previously voted to stay in the UK. These are two different issues. Something the SNP ignores.

Danny


I'm not getting into a long drawn arguement with you over politicians being servants of the public, they are there to represent the views and wishes of their constituents and in most cases if they don't represent their wishes then the'll be voted out at the next election as most of the 13 Tory MP's here will soon find out

You are correct, the two referendums were different, but the SNP are standing up for the majority in Scotland who voted to remain.

As for the 2014 referendum it may have escaped your notice but we're still part of the UK, the SNP haven't ignored the result, it was the UK government that has ignored the decision by failing to deliver any promises that were made.
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post 18th Nov 2019, 05:02pm
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QUOTE (DannyH @ 18th Nov 2019, 11:46am) *
Hi Jagz

Tony Blair’s son Hillary Blair has now got himself written into British history by having an act of Parliament named after himself. This act prevents the will of the people who voted to leave the EU to be carried out. Parliament is to have the final say.

Danny


Danny, you've got the wrong Tony, it was Tony Benn's son Hilary Benn who has that act named after him.


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post 18th Nov 2019, 05:25pm
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Danny, you've got the wrong Tony, it was Tony Benn's son Hilary Benn who has that act named after him.




Danny Boy wrong? Surely not!


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post 18th Nov 2019, 05:30pm
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post 18th Nov 2019, 05:32pm
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QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 18th Nov 2019, 05:25pm) *
Danny Boy wrong? Surely not!


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