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Posted by: GG 10th Apr 2011, 02:35pm

The last remaining scheduled Glasgow street party to celebrate the royal wedding has been cancelled due to lack of interest. The organisers of the now-abandoned street celebration, the Shettleston Historical Society, originally planned street festivities to coincide with the marriage of Prince William and Kate Middelton on April 29th, 2011. The chairman of the society, Tony Jaconelli, 77, lamented:

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"In this neck of the woods, a street party about celebrating anything to do with royalty is a bit of a no no.

If it had been about Celtic or Rangers winning the treble, I guess there would have been a lot of demand.

There is some support for the royal couple but not to the extent of having a street party, so we gave up on the idea.

We have instead written to the couple to ask if we can use their photograph on a booklet of important local marriages which we may produce."

Despite the apparent lack of interest, Glasgow City Council has passed a one-hour extension to licensed premises on the Friday evening so that Glaswegians will have ample time to partake in a fitting toast to the young couple.

Benevolent council bosses have also joined 20 of Scotland's 32 councils to grant the city's hard-pressed public service workers an extra day's holiday.

At least a dozen street parties are expected to take place in Edinburgh.

Here's some people who are looking forward to the Big Day:




GG.

Posted by: Ramblins 10th Apr 2011, 03:45pm

Well, I'm a bit disappointed to hear the street party in Glasgow has been cancelled. Here in Victoria, BC. the Fairmont Empress hotel is putting on a gala "authentic" British Royal Wedding breakfast. Everyone is encouraged to turn up at 3:00 am in PJ's and the hotel is supplying a "white fluffy robe." Large screen TV's will be located around the room.

Ok Glasgow, hop on a plane and we'll see you here. Love to meet you all.
Oh the price: a measly CN $39. I'm sure they're will be some Arbroath Kippers! Ayrshire bacon etc..... see ya here.

Best wishes,
Alastair Barnett

Posted by: Jupiter 10th Apr 2011, 04:00pm

Alistair,enjoy the party;Arbroath=Smokies.Loch Fyne=Kippers. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ashfield 10th Apr 2011, 04:01pm

What a shocker!

Shettleston historical society, who knew laugh.gif

Posted by: Ramblins 10th Apr 2011, 04:12pm

Oooops! Thanks Jupiter. Guess I've been away so long I'm gettin' ma kippers mixed up wi' ma smokies.
:-)

Posted by: Jupiter 10th Apr 2011, 04:37pm

That could be the honeymoon brekkie.Grilled smokie with lashings of butter,black pepper and toast!
Mmm.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 10th Apr 2011, 04:46pm

Here's me thinking Glaswegians would use any excuse for a party rolleyes.gif
No' like the auld days, eh? laugh.gif

Posted by: frankbuntain 10th Apr 2011, 04:51pm

SHAME ON YOU GLASGOW!!!!!

Posted by: Catarina 10th Apr 2011, 05:10pm

Being a Glaswegian,I am not surprised at the cancellation of a party when it is linked to anything concerning the Royal family. No love lost there.

However,here we have a young couple about to be married with all the hopes and dreams that no doubt most of us had when planning our own nuptials. I wish them every happiness despite their every move being put under a microscope. I do not envy them their position in life.

Have fun at the tea Party Victoria B.C. If I wasn't away at the other end of Canada, I would be there. Instead,I will drag myself out of bed to enjoy every moment of this happy event.

Aw the best tae ...Will and Kate.

Posted by: Jupiter 10th Apr 2011, 05:14pm

Frank,whats the shouting about?

Posted by: Celyn 10th Apr 2011, 05:23pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 10th Apr 2011, 05:03pm) *
Here's me thinking Glaswegians would use any excuse for a party rolleyes.gif
No' like the auld days, eh? laugh.gif

Ach, but some excuses are better than others. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (frankbuntain @ 10th Apr 2011, 05:08pm) *
SHAME ON YOU GLASGOW!!!!!

Why?

Posted by: bilbo.s 10th Apr 2011, 05:32pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 10th Apr 2011, 06:18pm) *
What a shocker!

Shettleston historical society, who knew laugh.gif

I did, cheeky bugger! biggrin.gif There´s a lot of history there - same as most places , I guess.

Posted by: norrie123 10th Apr 2011, 05:36pm

Can anyone remember street partys in Glasgow for anything Royal, I cant
having said that I have noticed that one bowling club close to me is having a Royals wedding tv watch, perhaps there are more that I dont know about.
Over the years, I have watched Princess Margarets, Charles and Lady Diana's weddings on TV ( in Italy of all places, very hard to get into a pub to see it, mobbed) but if the sun is shining I will be in the garden, if its raining I will be on the PC biggrin.gif
Best of luck to the young couple

Bye for now, norrie

Posted by: *greta* 10th Apr 2011, 05:41pm

I do not agree with everything royal by any means ,hunting for example. I do however think that certain things in the royal family are good for tradition in this country. My parents were royalists both from Glasgow and to a certain extent so am I and I certainly wish them a happy future.

Posted by: ashfield 10th Apr 2011, 05:43pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 10th Apr 2011, 06:49pm) *
I did, cheeky bugger! biggrin.gif There´s a lot of history there - same as most places , I guess.

Sorry bilbo, ah couldn't resist laugh.gif

I know a lot of people will be glued to their telly, watching the big wedding. If anyone expects me to watch it they will have to glue me to my telly rolleyes.gif

Posted by: benny 10th Apr 2011, 05:50pm

The spokesman for the Shettleston Historical Society is quoted as saying:

"In this neck of the woods, a street party about celebrating anything to do with royalty is a bit of a no no.

If it had been about Celtic or Rangers winning the treble, I guess there would have been a lot of demand.

There is some support for the royal couple but not to the extent of having a street party, so we gave up on the idea.

We have instead written to the couple to ask if we can use their photograph on a booklet of important local marriages which we may produce."


Important local marriages? Whit part o Shettleston dis Kate come frae?

The last party ah remember fur a Royal wis the Queen's coronation party in 1953 - ah wis only 5 years auld at the time.

Posted by: ionnsaigh 10th Apr 2011, 06:01pm

QUOTE (frankbuntain @ 10th Apr 2011, 05:08pm) *
SHAME ON YOU GLASGOW!!!!!

Quite frankly - Glasgow and Glaswegians, have more to think about than, lets have a party and celebrate the marriage of a couple of English Aristocrats.

Oh aye an another wee thing - a never knew, they were from Shettleston.

Posted by: bilbo.s 10th Apr 2011, 06:10pm

Ah mind o´a George Middleton fae the Bowery in Shettleston but Saxe-Coburgs were prominent by their absence. Mind you, we were aw staunch Jacobites an that probably deterred them. laugh.gif

Posted by: JohnG 10th Apr 2011, 06:43pm

Why would anyone want to sit in the street and celebrate the wedding of someone they don't know? They could be perfectly decent people but to me, and thousands like me the issue is what the represent. As Shelley said about Royalty sic 'They are the straw that ties the robbers bundle, the pinnacle of corruption'. In other words they are the justification for inherited wealth and privlege.

Posted by: Ross Holmes 10th Apr 2011, 06:57pm

In 70+ years in Glasgow [or just outside latterly] I have never heard of a street party. Has anyone ever considered the weather?

Posted by: chas1937 10th Apr 2011, 07:05pm

Main reason I will be watching is that the English(note English) are great at putting on a terrific spectacle for all the world too see.The ordinary TV during day is rubbish so be nice to see something special.I saw all the other Royal Occasions so no point in missing this one.Hope their marriage lasts bit happier and longer than some of their predecessors and when you think Duke of Windsor had to give up Throne because he wanted too marry Wallis Simpson changed days right enough

Posted by: JBG 10th Apr 2011, 07:19pm

QUOTE (frankbuntain @ 10th Apr 2011, 06:08pm) *
SHAME ON YOU GLASGOW!!!!!

I guess there isn't much royal sentimentality in Glasgow?

Posted by: RonD 10th Apr 2011, 07:31pm

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Important local marriages? Whit part o Shettleston dis Kate come frae?
The middleton part biggrin.gif

The last party ah remember fur a Royal wis the Queen's coronation party in 1953 - ah wis only 5 years auld at the time.

Ah'ma ages with you Benny, The coronation wiz 4 days before ma fifth birthday.. dae the sums !

Posted by: bilbo.s 10th Apr 2011, 07:35pm

I guess there wasn´t much across the Pond in 1773 and onwards. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: DaveEE 10th Apr 2011, 07:46pm

Im missing something here who cares about an English royal wedding i look at myself as a proud Scot but then again i have to register myself as British that gets up my nose as well why don't we all pull down every St Andrews cross in Scotland and put up St Georges crosses for the day and i would like to think i just heard the whole of Glasgow scream AYE THAT'LL BE RIGHT STICK YIR ST GEORGE'S CROSS UP YIR ROYAL ANUS

Posted by: bilbo.s 10th Apr 2011, 08:14pm

Boy, are you slow at the unpacking ! laugh.gif

Posted by: margitsback 10th Apr 2011, 08:34pm

Who can blame anyone for not being interested in royal weddings, this country is in recession and most people are struggling to make ends meet and in my opinion the last thing our elected crooks should be spending money on is a wedding,especially a royal one no doubt costing hundreds of thousands of pounds of taxpayers cash,and did HMQE2 show any interest in coming to Scotland with her royal regalia after she was crowned,no,sorry that should read HMQE1 as theres never been a QE2 in Scotland.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 10th Apr 2011, 09:32pm

QUOTE (DaveEE @ 10th Apr 2011, 08:03pm) *
Im missing something here who cares about an English royal wedding i look at myself as a proud Scot but then again i have to register myself as British that gets up my nose as well why don't we all pull down every St Andrews cross in Scotland and put up St Georges crosses for the day and i would like to think i just heard the whole of Glasgow scream AYE THAT'LL BE RIGHT STICK YIR ST GEORGE'S CROSS UP YIR ROYAL ANUS

It took close on 5 years tae rattle your cage rolleyes.gif
Must be an otherwise easy goin' kind of a chap, What? biggrin.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 10th Apr 2011, 09:39pm

QUOTE (margitsback @ 10th Apr 2011, 08:51pm) *
... theres never been a QE2 ...

QE2 is a ship. wink.gif
EIIR (Queen Elizabeth II) is your Regent cool.gif

Posted by: *kennyjenkins* 10th Apr 2011, 10:26pm

I am almost completely overcome with indifference

Posted by: Rab 10th Apr 2011, 10:36pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 10th Apr 2011, 10:49pm) *
It took close on 5 years tae rattle your cage rolleyes.gif
Must be an otherwise easy goin' kind of a chap, What? biggrin.gif

I think we can take it that there will be no street hi-jinks in Kirkie either!

Posted by: wombat 10th Apr 2011, 10:37pm

tongue.gif QUOTE (frankbuntain @ 10th Apr 2011, 05:08pm)
SHAME ON YOU GLASGOW!!!!!

naw no shame it reflects the city's maturity and individuality,no tae go running wie aw the ither lemmings tae this pantymime laugh.gif

Posted by: Rab 10th Apr 2011, 10:43pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 10th Apr 2011, 10:56pm) *
QE2 is a ship. wink.gif
EIIR (Queen Elizabeth II) is your Regent cool.gif

Regent? Our Sovereign Majesty? Heres me thinking you were a Constipational expert and near Peer of the Real m Tomi! No chance of getting that seat in the House now laddie.

Posted by: Rab 10th Apr 2011, 10:45pm

QUOTE (DaveEE @ 10th Apr 2011, 09:03pm) *
Im missing something here who cares about an English royal wedding i look at myself as a proud Scot but then again i have to register myself as British that gets up my nose as well why don't we all pull down every St Andrews cross in Scotland and put up St Georges crosses for the day and i would like to think i just heard the whole of Glasgow scream AYE THAT'LL BE RIGHT STICK YIR ST GEORGE'S CROSS UP YIR ROYAL ANUS

Should that not be URANUS Davee?

Posted by: rumcdonald 10th Apr 2011, 11:25pm

QUOTE (DaveEE @ 10th Apr 2011, 03:03pm) *
Im missing something here who cares about an English royal wedding i look at myself as a proud Scot but then again i have to register myself as British that gets up my nose as well why don't we all pull down every St Andrews cross in Scotland and put up St Georges crosses for the day and i would like to think i just heard the whole of Glasgow scream AYE THAT'LL BE RIGHT STICK YIR ST GEORGE'S CROSS UP YIR ROYAL ....

What an uncouth character you are! I'd be completely ashamed to call you a fellow Scot. I'm a Glasgow Scot myself and very much look forward to the royal wedding.

Posted by: rumcdonald 10th Apr 2011, 11:32pm

QUOTE (RonD @ 10th Apr 2011, 02:48pm) *
[Important local marriages? Whit part o Shettleston dis Kate come frae?
The middleton part biggrin.gif

The last party ah remember fur a Royal wis the Queen's coronation party in 1953 - ah wis only 5 years auld at the time.

Ah'ma ages with you Benny, The coronation wiz 4 days before ma fifth birthday.. dae the sums !

Why do some Glasgow people attempt to "write" in a Glasgow accent? It just looks so bad, and the grammar is awful.

Posted by: rumcdonald 10th Apr 2011, 11:41pm

QUOTE (wombat @ 10th Apr 2011, 05:54pm) *
tongue.gif QUOTE (frankbuntain @ 10th Apr 2011, 05:08pm)
SHAME ON YOU GLASGOW!!!!!

naw no shame it reflects the city's maturity and individuality,no tae go running wie aw the ither lemmings tae this pantymime laugh.gif

The city's maturity? What maturity?????????? Certainly not your juvenile ramblings.

Posted by: rumcdonald 10th Apr 2011, 11:44pm

QUOTE (frankbuntain @ 10th Apr 2011, 12:08pm) *
SHAME ON YOU GLASGOW!!!!!

I agree!!! Shame Shame..what a Shame.

Posted by: wombat 10th Apr 2011, 11:53pm

rolleyes.gif sham sham sham what a sham laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 11th Apr 2011, 12:00am

QUOTE (Rab @ 10th Apr 2011, 11:00pm) *
Regent? Our Sovereign Majesty? Heres me thinking you were a Constipational expert and near Peer of the Real m Tomi! No chance of getting that seat in the House now laddie.

How could I, Rab?
At her age she certainly wouldn't require a Regent ... unless HM, like her hubby sometimes; or a lot of us on here, is slippin' intae her second childhood tongue.gif

Anyway. I'll haud my haun oot noo for 6 o' the best. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Jazzsaxman 11th Apr 2011, 12:07am

Aye. While most people are struggling to make ends meet the Royals are flaunting the wealth that they aquired over years and still use outdated imperialistic dogma. I don't see them putting their hands in their pockets to help out. In fact this is costing the tax payers a fortune.

Posted by: benny 11th Apr 2011, 12:15am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 11th Apr 2011, 12:49am) *
Why do some Glasgow people attempt to "write" in a Glasgow accent? It just looks so bad, and the grammar is awful.

I say, steady on, old chap! One shouldn't go around gratuitiously insulting one's fellow board members. Dis that sound merr natural tae you? It certainly disnae tae me. I try to write as I normally speak, and if that doesn't meet with your approval, then I'm afraid that's just tough shit. I would suggest that your inherent dislike of the Glasgow vernacular may be founded on the mistaken assumption that those who use it are, in some sense, intellectually inferior to those who speak, or write, "standard" English. Believe me, I've met plenty of aresholes with Oxbridge accents.

Posted by: wombat 11th Apr 2011, 12:20am

rolleyes.gif they will be collecting royalties furr the princes katie dolls just released ,move ower barbie biggrin.gif wurlds gaun nuts wacko.gif

Posted by: wombat 11th Apr 2011, 12:23am

QUOTE (Jazzsaxman @ 11th Apr 2011, 01:24am) *
Aye. While most people are struggling to make ends meet the Royals are flaunting the wealth that they aquired over years and still use outdated imperialistic dogma. I don't see them putting their hands in their pockets to help out. In fact this is costing the tax payers a fortune.

cool.gif man very cool.gif cool ,thats why ah admire the common man "he has common sense"

Posted by: Dunvegan 11th Apr 2011, 01:10am

QUOTE (Ross Holmes @ 11th Apr 2011, 05:14am) *
In 70+ years in Glasgow [or just outside latterly] I have never heard of a street party. Has anyone ever considered the weather?

When Elizabeth Wettin Mountbadden of Saxe Coburg-Gotha became by usurpation Elizabeth11, there never having been a first in Scotland, we A' had street parties tae celebrate the glorious event. Took place aw' ower Glesga, an as fer me bein' a Jacobite an coming frae an' Auld Jacobite Family, free sweeties is free sweeties. tongue.gif

Posted by: JBG 11th Apr 2011, 01:15am

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 10th Apr 2011, 08:52pm) *
QUOTE (JBG @ 10th Apr 2011, 08:36pm) *

I guess there isn't much royal sentimentality in Glasgow?


I guess there wasn´t much across the Pond in 1773 and onwards. rolleyes.gif

Actually QE II gets quite a bit of attention on this side of the pond. She was quite the honored guest on the 400th Anniversary of Jamestown's settlement back in 2007.

Posted by: wombat 11th Apr 2011, 01:17am

wink.gif yie'll take a bribe then? cool.gif

Posted by: Michael Docherty 11th Apr 2011, 01:22am

I was working in an Ex-Pat pseudo Btitish Pub (The Olde Mucky Duck for those of you who may have ventured to the West Coast) in 1981 when the 'Chuck 'n' Di Show' took place. This town, being an Ex-Pat haven was a veritable madhouse and I see no reason why things would be any different this time around.

Back then the streets swarmed with people wearing the now highly-valued 'Royal Wedding' T-Shirts not to mention the ridiculous Union Jack top-hats. The hats, being made of some cheapo, oil-based plastic mercifully rotted away within a year or two so little or no trace remains of them.

From what I gather the Wedding will be broadcast here at 6am which will conveniently co-incide with opening-time so, no doubt the pubs will be overflowing with suitably lubricated well-wishers, many of whom will be carrying their festivities over from the previous night. The TV Stations will once again send out their news crews to all the local watering-holes to interview hordes of slobbering drunks and broadcast the footage at 6pm and again at 11pm without the benefit of subtitles. Lots of souvenier trinkets and chatchkies will be sold and tourists along the Santa Monica Pier will pay 15 or 20 bucks to be photographed standing next to a smiling, life-sized cardboard cut-out of either Kate or William. Business as usual...

Personally, I wish them every happiness in their new life together and with any luck they may be the first of a new generation of Royals to be a bit less socially constipated and have at least one foot planted on firm ground. Thanks to Diana's input the future King bears little of the inbred grotesque ugliness of his big-eared pater's lineage although if Di had been able to stick around a bit longer she may have dropped a hint or two in the ear of her progeny regarding the benefits of Rogaine or hair transplants.

On the 'Big Day', however I fear I will be wrapped up in my sheets in the early am and will either view the Blessed Occasion on the news later in the day or perhaps just wait a week or three for the movie to come out.

Posted by: Crewsy Fixer 11th Apr 2011, 01:28am

I cant help thinking what a lovely looking girl like her is doing with an ugly guy like him. I think Wills looks like a whole Royal Family himself.

Posted by: Scotsman 11th Apr 2011, 08:14am

Very very well done Glasgow people.... why should anyone in our city want to celebrate a show marriage between two uber-priviliged poster children of a corrupt and nasty establishment which condems Glaswegians to the lowest life expectancy, the worst health, the worst education and the greatest inequality in the developed world.... shun it, ignore it, see it for what it is!!!!

Posted by: bilbo.s 11th Apr 2011, 08:33am

QUOTE (RonD @ 10th Apr 2011, 09:48pm) *
Ah'ma ages with you Benny, The coronation wiz 4 days before ma fifth birthday.. dae the sums !

Bloody young toerags. biggrin.gif I mind fine a street party then in Shettleston but we were too posh to join in with the riff-raff.

Posted by: bilbo.s 11th Apr 2011, 08:36am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 10th Apr 2011, 11:56pm) *
QE2 is a ship. wink.gif
EIIR (Queen Elizabeth II) is your Regent cool.gif

Do not start that again ! ohmy.gif

Posted by: DaveEE 11th Apr 2011, 09:15am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 10th Apr 2011, 09:49pm) *
It took close on 5 years tae rattle your cage rolleyes.gif
Must be an otherwise easy goin' kind of a chap, What? biggrin.gif

Yeh im an easy goin kinda chap but just sometimes i get pissed off with listening to total garbage and with the royal wedding carry-on its getting shoved right down ma throat by yeh you guessed it the English i really dont know how a true Scot could be interested in an English royal wedding! I suppose it is good we all get the day off and an extra hour in the pub i should feel honored wink.gif

Posted by: ashfield 11th Apr 2011, 09:22am

Extra hour in the pub, now you've got me interested. Do I need to watch the telly laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 11th Apr 2011, 09:24am

Times must be a-changin' right enough ... I've known Glaswegians who would have followed The Royals right intae Hell and back. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 11th Apr 2011, 09:25am

I remember as a kid, seeing on Gaumont British News the royal family returning to Buck House from wherever, the standard being raised and hordes of London eejits rushing up to the gates . My dad had witnessed this on a visit to London and had a few scathing remarks to make.
unsure.gif

Posted by: Mathieson 11th Apr 2011, 10:28am

I just received a text this morning saying that Prince William doesn't want the traditional fruitcake at his wedding.
However, Prince Philip says he doesn't gve a f***, he's still going. biggrin.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 11th Apr 2011, 10:29am

Well it wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a wee party or two going on over here in celebration of the young couple's marriage, after all the Prince's family do help a bit with Germany's export drive. laugh.gif

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So THIS is why the Audi boss got an invitation

As head of PR for a German car maker, Jon Zammett’s appearance on the Royal Wedding guest list might appear puzzling at first.

But the picture below shows exactly why he will be taking his seat with the great and the good at the Abbey.

Zooming through the countryside yesterday were Charles and Camilla in a brand-new Audi A6.
Cut-price luxury: The Audi A6 being driver by Charles, with wife Camilla as a passenger, yesterday would set a member of the public back £44,000


The £44,000 estate is the latest addition to the growing royal fleet of Audis, which they receive at discount rates.

Mr Zammett has helped to steer almost every senior member of the Royal Family into Audi leasing or ownership deals.

Prince Charles and his household have a fleet of them, including a prized A8 limousine, worth up to £92,500. William has the S4, 4.2 litre saloon while Harry has a black, three-door Audi A3.
PR chief: Jon Zammett has arranged a number of Audis for senior Royals

Kate Middleton also drives an Audi while the Queen herself is understood to own one.

All are said to be replaced every couple of years in a preferential VIP deal unavailable to the public.

Mr Zammett’s invitation was criticised yesterday by Liberal Democrat MP John Hemming, who said: ‘It’s remarkably odd that an executive from a car manufacturer which does not make cars in this country is invited when others are not.

‘The wedding may be a private affair for the family but it is also a public event where it will look odd that a car company boss is among the invited guests of ambassadors and other public figures from all over the world.’

An Audi spokesman said the company’s links with the Royal Family started with Prince Charles, the first of the family’s converts to the manufacturer.

‘It’s really straightforward – they tell us which car they would like to see, we send them around. They either lease them or buy them. Most VIPs would get some kind of discount. Jon Zammett is head of PR and he has been invited because of Audi’s long-standing relationship with the princes.’

Charles and Camilla – or the Duke and Duchess of Rothesay as they style themselves when in Scotland – took the Audi on the seven-mile journey from their home on Royal Deeside, Birkhall, to church in the village of Crathie.

They celebrated their sixth wedding anniversary on Saturday and are having an extended Easter break in Aberdeenshire before travelling to London for William’s wedding. Locals say Charles and Camilla will return to Birkhall after the wedding.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1375570/Royal-wedding-Prince-Charles-chums-love-win-places-Westminster-Abbey.html#ixzz1JCoAEtMl

Posted by: ionnsaigh 11th Apr 2011, 11:06am

QUOTE (Scotsman @ 11th Apr 2011, 08:31am) *
Very very well done Glasgow people.... why should anyone in our city want to celebrate a show marriage between two uber-priviliged poster children of a corrupt and nasty establishment which condems Glaswegians to the lowest life expectancy, the worst health, the worst education and the greatest inequality in the developed world.... shun it, ignore it, see it for what it is!!!!

Absolutely about sums it up.....The time may be fast approaching, when Scotland can shake off this dust, of a marriage, made in hell. As for any marriage, in order that it may prove successful, requires equality. Scotland has been dominated.. by a powerful and abusive partner..... in this sham relationship known as The United Kingdom. I file for divorce on these grounds.
Honestly see the more I see the Union Jack or Union Flag, (whatever name it's being called) the more I want to be sick.. ( sick fae the back teeth an tae the bottom, awe mae toes )
Another wee thing while wur at it.... see the way a speak, it may be less important as to what I say.. however a cin only learn, fae the rest that practice writing in the mother tongue. Albeit in a foreign language.

Shame on you,
A spell cast.. a poison pen,
Pointing fingers - scream shame,
Drip drip drip - fae heid, tae fit,
Lies the language the hypocrite. rolleyes.gif


Posted by: ktv 11th Apr 2011, 12:44pm

A good excuse to go camping for a week cause the telly and the papers will be full of it all week.

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 05:33pm

QUOTE (*greta* @ 10th Apr 2011, 12:58pm) *
I do not agree with everything royal by any means ,hunting for example. I do however think that certain things in the royal family are good for tradition in this country. My parents were royalists both from Glasgow and to a certain extent so am I and I certainly wish them a happy future.

Perfectly said Greta. I agree completely.

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 05:38pm

QUOTE (chas1937 @ 10th Apr 2011, 02:22pm) *
Main reason I will be watching is that the English(note English) are great at putting on a terrific spectacle for all the world too see.The ordinary TV during day is rubbish so be nice to see something special.I saw all the other Royal Occasions so no point in missing this one.Hope their marriage lasts bit happier and longer than some of their predecessors and when you think Duke of Windsor had to give up Throne because he wanted too marry Wallis Simpson changed days right enough

Well said! Pomp and Circumstance, Pomp and Splendour. Love it!!!!

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 05:55pm

QUOTE (DaveEE @ 11th Apr 2011, 04:32am) *
Yeh im an easy goin kinda chap but just sometimes i get pissed off with listening to total garbage and with the royal wedding carry-on its getting shoved right down ma throat by yeh you guessed it the English i really dont know how a true Scot could be interested in an English royal wedding! I suppose it is good we all get the day off and an extra hour in the pub i should feel honored wink.gif

Dear oh dear! It's a British royal wedding. I'm a true Scot, and I'm interested. Do you not like the people of England? Would you like Scotland to "go on its own"? That would be sad. A Scottish nation who does not like its neighbours. I love Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland. Cheers!

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 06:10pm

QUOTE (benny @ 10th Apr 2011, 07:32pm) *
I say, steady on, old chap! One shouldn't go around gratuitiously insulting one's fellow board members. Dis that sound merr natural tae you? It certainly disnae tae me. I try to write as I normally speak, and if that doesn't meet with your approval, then I'm afraid that's just tough shit. I would suggest that your inherent dislike of the Glasgow vernacular may be founded on the mistaken assumption that those who use it are, in some sense, intellectually inferior to those who speak, or write, "standard" English. Believe me, I've met plenty of aresholes with Oxbridge accents.

I'm not insulting the board members, and I LOVE the Glasgow accent. I'm from Glasgow myself. I have actually tried to "write" in a Glasgow accent, but found it time consuming. Too many "computations". Plain, standard English is easier for the reader to grasp, and this board IS for opinions. If we all "write as we speak" the English language would become a train wreck. Cheers!

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 06:14pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 11th Apr 2011, 04:42am) *
I remember as a kid, seeing on Gaumont British News the royal family returning to Buck House from wherever, the standard being raised and hordes of London eejits rushing up to the gates . My dad had witnessed this on a visit to London and had a few scathing remarks to make.
unsure.gif

So none of your family liked the English either? Sad.

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 06:17pm

QUOTE (Crewsy Fixer @ 10th Apr 2011, 08:45pm) *
I cant help thinking what a lovely looking girl like her is doing with an ugly guy like him. I think Wills looks like a whole Royal Family himself.

William Wales is a fine looking young man. Got his looks from his beautiful mother.

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 06:30pm

QUOTE (Scotsman @ 11th Apr 2011, 03:31am) *
Very very well done Glasgow people.... why should anyone in our city want to celebrate a show marriage between two uber-priviliged poster children of a corrupt and nasty establishment which condems Glaswegians to the lowest life expectancy, the worst health, the worst education and the greatest inequality in the developed world.... shun it, ignore it, see it for what it is!!!!

I agree Glasgow has a bad health record, but one can't blame the establishment...or the royal wedding. No one is forcing the Glasgow youth to drink themselves into oblivion, and Glasgow people themselves have to be responsible for their diet. Fried Mars bars!!!!! I must admit though that the fish n chips there are the best. Has the education gone downhill? As a Glaswegian I got a good one in Glasgow, but that was a few years ago.

Posted by: benny 11th Apr 2011, 06:56pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 11th Apr 2011, 07:27pm) *
I'm not insulting the board members, and I LOVE the Glasgow accent. I'm from Glasgow myself. I have actually tried to "write" in a Glasgow accent, but found it time consuming. Too many "computations". Plain, standard English is easier for the reader to grasp, and this board IS for opinions. If we all "write as we speak" the English language would become a train wreck. Cheers!

Hiv another look - the English language is a train wreck. Apart from differences in pronunciation and vocabulary within the British Isles, there are all the various flavours of international English - American, Australian, Indian, African, etc, etc. The idea of a "standard" English is a myth, imposed upon us in an era of rigid class structures by a self-elected elite. Apart from that, this is a Glasgow board, and what could be more natural than to write - or attempt to write - in the language that the vast majority of Glaswegians use on a day to day basis?

Posted by: Scotsman 11th Apr 2011, 07:02pm

QUOTE
I agree Glasgow has a bad health record, but one can't blame the establishment...or the royal wedding. No one is forcing the Glasgow youth to drink themselves into oblivion, and Glasgow people themselves have to be responsible for their diet. Fried Mars bars!!!!! I must admit though that the fish n chips there are the best. Has the education gone downhill? As a Glaswegian I got a good one in Glasgow, but that was a few years ago.

I can and I did and I do blame a cruel and unforgiving establishment of which the royal family is a central part. Our children don't grow up with the opportunities and life chances of William or Kate.... most Glasgow children have been failed by the system by the time they enter secondary school. From then they are condemned to a life on a downward spiral of hopelessness, despair and misery.... who can blame these poor souls if they turn to drink to provide a temporary escape from their situation. Glasgows standard of education has always been very poor and over the last few years it has fallen well behind Scotland. How many kids from our housing estates get the opportunity to go to St Andrews university every year? My guess would be none.

Posted by: ashfield 11th Apr 2011, 07:03pm

Hey Benny, have you been for they electrocution lessons rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Mathieson 11th Apr 2011, 07:56pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 11th Apr 2011, 07:47pm) *
I agree Glasgow has a bad health record, but one can't blame the establishment...or the royal wedding. No one is forcing the Glasgow youth to drink themselves into oblivion, and Glasgow people themselves have to be responsible for their diet. Fried Mars bars!!!!! I must admit though that the fish n chips there are the best. Has the education gone downhill? As a Glaswegian I got a good one in Glasgow, but that was a few years ago.

Well said. There's too much of a victim mentality in certain areas of Glasgow and a lack of self-respect and sense of responsibility. No doubt some will be offended by that but basically it's true.

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 08:53pm

QUOTE (*kennyjenkins* @ 10th Apr 2011, 05:43pm) *
I am almost completely overcome with indifference

...meaning you have lost your marbles

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 09:20pm

QUOTE (benny @ 11th Apr 2011, 02:13pm) *
Hiv another look - the English language is a train wreck. Apart from differences in pronunciation and vocabulary within the British Isles, there are all the various flavours of international English - American, Australian, Indian, African, etc, etc. The idea of a "standard" English is a myth, imposed upon us in an era of rigid class structures by a self-elected elite. Apart from that, this is a Glasgow board, and what could be more natural than to write - or attempt to write - in the language that the vast majority of Glaswegians use on a day to day basis?

Point taken Benny....but I'll stick with my rigid style of writing. Cheers.

Posted by: Rab 11th Apr 2011, 09:34pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 11th Apr 2011, 12:49am) *
Why do some Glasgow people attempt to "write" in a Glasgow accent? It just looks so bad, and the grammar is awful.

I think you are in for a big shock rumcdonald when you see some of the posts on here. You will definately need an Enigma decoder like mine!

Posted by: Rab 11th Apr 2011, 10:01pm

I just received a text this morning saying that Prince William doesn't want the traditional fruitcake at his wedding.

However, Prince Philip says he doesn't gve a ****, he's still going!

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 10:05pm

QUOTE (Scotsman @ 11th Apr 2011, 02:19pm) *
I can and I did and I do blame a cruel and unforgiving establishment of which the royal family is a central part. Our children don't grow up with the opportunities and life chances of William or Kate.... most Glasgow children have been failed by the system by the time they enter secondary school. From then they are condemned to a life on a downward spiral of hopelessness, despair and misery.... who can blame these poor souls if they turn to drink to provide a temporary escape from their situation. Glasgows standard of education has always been very poor and over the last few years it has fallen well behind Scotland. How many kids from our housing estates get the opportunity to go to St Andrews university every year? My guess would be none.

You are blaming the royal family again. A cruel and unforgiving establishment!!! Sounds like a Dicken's novel. You have a victim mentality. I don't agree that Glasgow's standard of education has always been poor. It certainly did me well, and my local Govanhill library was my favourite place. We don't necessarily have to go to university to do well. I also lived in a housing estate, but my parents were hard workers with self respect, and my dad kept a beautiful garden. We visited our old home a few years later, and it was like a war zone. Young kiddies digging huge holes in the garden, and parents nowhere to be seen....parents with no self respect, and no pride.

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 10:09pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 11th Apr 2011, 02:20pm) *
Hey Benny, have you been for they electrocution lessons rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Ha ha..I'm finding this funny because my husband often used that expression..electrocution lessons.

Posted by: rumcdonald 11th Apr 2011, 10:12pm

QUOTE (Mathieson @ 11th Apr 2011, 03:13pm) *
Well said. There's too much of a victim mentality in certain areas of Glasgow and a lack of self-respect and sense of responsibility. No doubt some will be offended by that but basically it's true.

Yes it certainly is true, sadly.

Posted by: wombat 11th Apr 2011, 10:14pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 11th Apr 2011, 02:20pm)
Hey Benny, have you been for they electrocution lessons

jined the polis have yie?

Posted by: Ken 11th Apr 2011, 10:19pm

I AGREE WITH frankbuntain.

Posted by: The Callands Rebel 11th Apr 2011, 11:22pm

Well here is a "Yank" take.

My 3rd and 4th great grandfathers(father and son) got into the Red coat Army of the English King in North Carolina and here in Virginia in our Revolution.

My 2nd Great took them on in 1812 and we sent them packing again

Not to mention the Wells' were run out of Stockport England in the early 1600's to Virginia.

Sorry you royalist, I guess I'm more Scot then most who have replied, my Grandmother is a Scot, Clan Grant.

Jerry

Posted by: Dunvegan 12th Apr 2011, 12:45am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 11th Apr 2011, 07:41pm) *
Times must be a-changin' right enough ... I've known Glaswegians who would have followed The Royals right intae Hell and back. tongue.gif laugh.gif

L.O.L and I dont mean lots of laughs.

Posted by: The Callands Rebel 12th Apr 2011, 12:51am

Yes, the Yank again

I forgot to ADD:

Tae th' royal fowk sic semper tyrannis

Jerry

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 12th Apr 2011, 01:25am

QUOTE (DaveEE @ 11th Apr 2011, 09:32am) *
... I really don't know how a true Scot could be interested in an English royal wedding ...

Had it not been for the true Scot's gentry selling Scotland out at the time of the Union the whole question of a Royal wedding celebration would have had no meaning in the Republic of Scotland.
History tells us we only have ourselves to blame for the union.

QUOTE
Scotland - A Concise History
Victory and Surrender

Ever since 1603 the Scots had cherished the hope that they might be allowed, as subjects of the same king, to share in trade with England's colonies, but the English, like all colonial powers of the time, would never dream of granting any such rights. Colonies were seen as assets to be monopolised for the benefit of the country to which they belonged and all interlopers were fiercely excluded.

James VI had tried to organise some sort of fuller union of his two kingdoms, but the English were not in the least interested. On numerous occasions Scottish Parliaments hopefully appointed committees to negotiate union with England, but the English were not interested.

Anxious to diversify and expand their trade, the Scots now embarked upon an alternative approach. If they could not gain access to England's colonies why should they not simply establish colonies of their own? Such colonies would be a source of raw materials, a market for Scottish produce and a base for her ocean-going traders. Thus the Scottish Parliament encouraged and authorised the formation of 'The Company of Scotland Trading to Africa and the Indies', and the Company would establish a colony as its base and the beginnings of a Scottish commercial network. Such a venture would require large sums of money. A fleet would have to be organised, equipped, provisioned and provided with cargoes. Scotland did not really have the amount of capital to make such investment, but help was at hand. England's laws excluded, from England's colonies and markets in large areas of the world, even English merchants who were not members of the great East India Company. The influence of that company was vigorously maintained by many members of the House of Lords and several hundred members of the House of Commons. Englishmen who were not in the East India Company had chafed for years over their disadvantage. But the English Parliament had no jurisdiction whatsoever over a Scottish company, and so many English merchants gleefully and legally rushed to invest in the Scottish company. Dutch merchants followed suit and the Company of Scotland looked like being a great success. ...

They had forgotten that blackmail is a game that two can play, and that England might find some way to counter Scottish plans. The English answer was brutally effective.

By the terms of the English Alien Act of 1705 the English moved ' ...

The Earl of Seafield - as secretive and shifty a politician as even that age produced - presided as Chancellor over the Scots Parliament in its final moments. As he pronounced the acceptance of the Union, and the adjournment without limit of time of the Parliament, he remarked jovially 'There's an end to an auld sang.'

So Scotland was gone, and the rest of the world knew her not.
For England nothing had changed.

English rulers had never seriously or sincerely accepted Scotland's separate identity anyway, and the presence of Scots in the English parliament seemed to them just as it should be. Some of the terms of the Union were set aside before long when English opinion saw fit to require change. Taxes on malt were imposed earlier than had been promised; and the power of landowners to appoint local ministers, abolished in 1690, was restored in 1712, to remain in the church as an affront to Presbyterian theory.

For Scotland the Union was the great historical decision in the country's story. For England nothing much had really happened and nothing important had changed. For this reason the concept of 'Britain' has never been fully accepted. As has been observed in modern times, 'if the English had become British, so might the Scots.'

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/scotland/chap8.htm

......................

Your nobles wanted the Union and you got it.
Might as well enjoy the party and stop being so miserable.
Enjoy your day off. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: benny 12th Apr 2011, 09:23am

QUOTE (ashfield @ 11th Apr 2011, 08:20pm) *
Hey Benny, have you been for they electrocution lessons rolleyes.gif laugh.gif


Ur you tryin tae say ah'm a silly current? biggrin.gif

Posted by: ionnsaigh 12th Apr 2011, 09:36am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 11th Apr 2011, 10:22pm) *
You are blaming the royal family again. A cruel and unforgiving establishment!!! Sounds like a Dicken's novel. You have a victim mentality. I don't agree that Glasgow's standard of education has always been poor. It certainly did me well, and my local Govanhill library was my favourite place. We don't necessarily have to go to university to do well. I also lived in a housing estate, but my parents were hard workers with self respect, and my dad kept a beautiful garden. We visited our old home a few years later, and it was like a war zone. Young kiddies digging huge holes in the garden, and parents nowhere to be seen....parents with no self respect, and no pride.

The Royal Family represent the public face, of who controls power. They stand at the head of a system that has made them extremely wealthy. ( these are the people you defend )
The weans digging huge holes in the garden, with neglectful parents, with no self respect and no pride.
( these are the people you attack ) You go on to suggest that, by having a Victims mentality, this in some ways, casts doubt on judgement and rationality ( perhaps it does ) However what of the real victims ? The ones who never lived in Govanhill, and went to a school that appeared to produce minds, fit only for factory work, and cannon fodder. ( God save the Queen )
You claim that we don't have to go to university to do well... your class fight over themselves to get their children in.... Not for the right reasons though, that's more to do with the status, and salary of a middle class profession.

The inference that people who live on housing estates, are not hard working, with no self respect, is deplorable and judgmental nonsense. You see I have always lived in Social Housing, so I guess that makes me, ( my family ) a lazy scoundrel with no respect...... tongue.gif
What you had observed, was a wave of poverty that swept through working class schemes... added to this was the neglect of the Labour Council, to provide adequate services for the people, the vast majority paying their rent on time, week in and week out.... The joabs went, and so did the rent,
see when poverty knocks on your door - love flies out the window. The very fabric of society came under attack, social relationships quickly break down.. petty crime becomes rampant, shops boarded up.. yer ain wee Glesga Bronx springs up. Try sticking 20 nice respectful middle class families, in a scheme, denying them the opportunity to earn, for a year and a day. The weans would be out digging big holes in the garden, the parents would be screaming and fighting, and the debt man's due.
Poverty is a terrible thing.

Posted by: Melody 12th Apr 2011, 09:54am

QUOTE (ionnsaigh @ 12th Apr 2011, 10:53am) *
The Royal Family represent the public face, of who controls power. They stand at the head of a system that has made them extremely wealthy. ( these are the people you defend )
The weans digging huge holes in the garden, with neglectful parents, with no self respect and no pride.
( these are the people you attack ) You go on to suggest that, by having a Victims mentality, this in some ways, casts doubt on judgement and rationality ( perhaps it does ) However what of the real victims ? The ones who never lived in Govanhill, and went to a school that appeared to produce minds, fit only for factory work, and cannon fodder. ( God save the Queen )
You claim that we don't have to go to university to do well... your class fight over themselves to get their children in.... Not for the right reasons though, that's more to do with the status, and salary of a middle class profession.

The inference that people who live on housing estates, are not hard working, with no self respect, is deplorable and judgmental nonsense. You see I have always lived in Social Housing, so I guess that makes me, ( my family ) a lazy scoundrel with no respect...... tongue.gif
What you had observed, was a wave of poverty that swept through working class schemes... added to this was the neglect of the Labour Council, to provide adequate services for the people, the vast majority paying their rent on time, week in and week out.... The joabs went, and so did the rent, see when poverty knocks on your door - love flies out the window. The very fabric of society came under attack, social relationships quickly break down.. petty crime becomes rampant, shops boarded up.. yer ain wee Glesga Bronx springs up. Try sticking 20 nice respectful middle class families, in a scheme, denying them the opportunity to earn, for a year and a day. The weans would be out digging big holes in the garden, the parents would be screaming and fighting, and the debt man's due.
Poverty is a terrible thing.

Never a truer word spoken, brilliant post ionnsaigh.

Posted by: DaveEE 12th Apr 2011, 11:30am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 11th Apr 2011, 06:12pm) *
Dear oh dear! It's a British royal wedding. I'm a true Scot, and I'm interested. Do you not like the people of England? Would you like Scotland to "go on its own"? That would be sad. A Scottish nation who does not like its neighbours. I love Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland. Cheers!

Bet you supported England in the last world cup as well when some of us supported anyone who played England and i'll bet you would like to see Andy Murray winning Wimbledon for Britain and not for Scotland and i'll bet you would fly the Union Jack and not the St Andrews cross,maybe you should think about what England have done to us and im real happy your proud to be British im not and i think that choice was made for me wacko.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 12th Apr 2011, 11:55am

QUOTE (DaveEE @ 12th Apr 2011, 11:47am) *
... proud to be British im not and i think that choice was made for me wacko.gif

It was indeed ... by Scottish Lords who owned land in England. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ashfield 12th Apr 2011, 12:47pm

QUOTE (Melody @ 12th Apr 2011, 11:11am) *
Never a truer word spoken, brilliant post ionnsaigh.


I see Prince Phillip is 90 this year, just think, if he had lived in the Gorbals he would have died 25 years ago rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 12th Apr 2011, 12:52pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 12th Apr 2011, 03:04pm) *
I see Prince Phillip is 90 this year, just think, if he had lived in the Gorbals he would have died 25 years ago rolleyes.gif


I might have been deid as well. if I had stayed in Shettleston. unsure.gif

Posted by: ashfield 12th Apr 2011, 02:07pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 12th Apr 2011, 02:09pm) *
I might have been deid as well. if I had stayed in Shettleston. unsure.gif


Aye wi' aw that drinkin' an' no workin' an'..........err..cough cough....... huh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 12th Apr 2011, 02:11pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 12th Apr 2011, 04:24pm) *
Aye wi' aw that drinkin' an' no workin' an'..........err..cough cough....... huh.gif laugh.gif


Hope that's no a syphilitic cough therr ! unsure.gif

Posted by: ashfield 12th Apr 2011, 03:10pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 12th Apr 2011, 03:28pm) *
Hope that´s no a syphilitic cough therr ! unsure.gif


Mair of a venerable wan tongue.gif

Posted by: Mugginz 12th Apr 2011, 04:13pm

Everything aboot him has aye been Greek tae me ph34r.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 12th Apr 2011, 05:11pm

QUOTE (DaveEE @ 12th Apr 2011, 06:47am) *
Bet you supported England in the last world cup as well when some of us supported anyone who played England and i'll bet you would like to see Andy Murray winning Wimbledon for Britain and not for Scotland and i'll bet you would fly the Union Jack and not the St Andrews cross,maybe you should think about what England have done to us and im real happy your proud to be British im not and i think that choice was made for me wacko.gif

Wrong on most counts. I always support Scotland when it comes to Footie. Especially the 'Gers. I love all the British flags, my favourites being the Saltire, and the Lion Rampart. Who is Andy Murray?? Yes I'm proud to be British. Is it just the English that you don't like? What about the Welsh? You have enough bitterness to cover them all. Rule Britannia.

Posted by: *Barbara* 12th Apr 2011, 07:01pm

I will be watching on TV, It will a grand Wedding.

I am in Australia.

Barbara.

Posted by: Ramblins 12th Apr 2011, 07:30pm

I'm sorry to see such anger and bitterness directed toward the Royal Family. If you could only see the interest and unabated enthusiasm for the Family and the UK. right now over here in N. America. Makes me very proud to be a Brit. I don't think it's fair to blame the Royal Family for all the perceived ills that have befallen Glasgow. All we hear in Canada for example, is that Glasgow had become the "cultural center, of Britain. But then I haven't been "home" for several years, and it's been a long time since I visited my home town of Glasgow. My memories go back to the days when I'd visit my aunts in Maryhill. They "lived", if you'd call it that, on the top floor of a soot-blackened, smelly tenement building on Burnhouse Street. Now those where tough days. (Just after the war.) I don't know if the Royals were to blame for that too and I'm sure much has improved since then. Back then as a young lad, if we walked anywhere around that area in the evening there was always a good chance you'd be hit by some drunk falling, or being thrown out of a pub, so what you have now with the young people isn't new either. You can't blame the Royal Family for that. What ever happened to good old fashioned Scottish stoicism? I don't remember so much griping when I was growing up there. Glaswegians were known for their pluck and strength along with a terrific sense of humour. Sounds now that it's all doom and gloom. It's sad and doesn't do much to promote tourism to hear all this.

Posted by: rumcdonald 12th Apr 2011, 08:46pm

QUOTE (The Callands Rebel @ 11th Apr 2011, 06:39pm) *
Well here is a "Yank" take.

My 3rd and 4th great grandfathers(father and son) got into the Red coat Army of the English King in North Carolina and here in Virginia in our Revolution.

My 2nd Great took them on in 1812 and we sent them packing again

Not to mention the Wells' were run out of Stockport England in the early 1600's to Virginia.

Sorry you royalist, I guess I'm more Scot then most who have replied, my Grandmother is a Scot, Clan Grant.

Jerry

Were you born in the States? An American who doesn't like the Brit royal family (well that's what your quote implies) is very unusual.

Posted by: rumcdonald 12th Apr 2011, 09:20pm

QUOTE (Ramblins @ 12th Apr 2011, 02:47pm) *
I'm sorry to see such anger and bitterness directed toward the Royal Family. If you could only see the interest and unabated enthusiasm for the Family and the UK. right now over here in N. America. Makes me very proud to be a Brit. I don't think it's fair to blame the Royal Family for all the perceived ills that have befallen Glasgow. All we hear in Canada for example, is that Glasgow had become the "cultural center, of Britain. But then I haven't been "home" for several years, and it's been a long time since I visited my home town of Glasgow. My memories go back to the days when I'd visit my aunts in Maryhill. They "lived", if you'd call it that, on the top floor of a soot-blackened, smelly tenement building on Burnhouse Street. Now those where tough days. (Just after the war.) I don't know if the Royals were to blame for that too and I'm sure much has improved since then. Back then as a young lad, if we walked anywhere around that area in the evening there was always a good chance you'd be hit by some drunk falling, or being thrown out of a pub, so what you have now with the young people isn't new either. You can't blame the Royal Family for that. What ever happened to good old fashioned Scottish stoicism? I don't remember so much griping when I was growing up there. Glaswegians were known for their pluck and strength along with a terrific sense of humour. Sounds now that it's all doom and gloom. It's sad and doesn't do much to promote tourism to hear all this.

I agree with you completely. I live in Canada also, but go home to Glasgow most every year. Lived up a close in Govanhill, and also a housing scheme. I love all of Britain dearly. I visit some of my family in London (love London!) and we all go up to Glasgow for a while. I still have lots of relatives in Glasgow who were hard working proud people...now enjoying the fruits of their labour. For the life of me, I can't understand why some Scots want to be separate from the rest of Britain. It is all ours to enjoy. Take the Lake District...yes, next door to Scotland..just breathtaking, as are the Highlands of Scotland.

Posted by: rumcdonald 12th Apr 2011, 09:33pm

QUOTE (*Barbara* @ 12th Apr 2011, 02:18pm) *
I will be watching on TV, It will a grand Wedding.

I am in Australia.

Barbara.


Enjoy the royal wedding in Oz Barbara. I will be too, in Toronto.

Posted by: rumcdonald 12th Apr 2011, 10:05pm

QUOTE (ionnsaigh @ 12th Apr 2011, 04:53am) *
The Royal Family represent the public face, of who controls power. They stand at the head of a system that has made them extremely wealthy. ( these are the people you defend )
The weans digging huge holes in the garden, with neglectful parents, with no self respect and no pride.
( these are the people you attack ) You go on to suggest that, by having a Victims mentality, this in some ways, casts doubt on judgement and rationality ( perhaps it does ) However what of the real victims ? The ones who never lived in Govanhill, and went to a school that appeared to produce minds, fit only for factory work, and cannon fodder. ( God save the Queen )
You claim that we don't have to go to university to do well... your class fight over themselves to get their children in.... Not for the right reasons though, that's more to do with the status, and salary of a middle class profession.

The inference that people who live on housing estates, are not hard working, with no self respect, is deplorable and judgmental nonsense. You see I have always lived in Social Housing, so I guess that makes me, ( my family ) a lazy scoundrel with no respect...... tongue.gif
What you had observed, was a wave of poverty that swept through working class schemes... added to this was the neglect of the Labour Council, to provide adequate services for the people, the vast majority paying their rent on time, week in and week out.... The joabs went, and so did the rent,
see when poverty knocks on your door - love flies out the window. The very fabric of society came under attack, social relationships quickly break down.. petty crime becomes rampant, shops boarded up.. yer ain wee Glesga Bronx springs up. Try sticking 20 nice respectful middle class families, in a scheme, denying them the opportunity to earn, for a year and a day. The weans would be out digging big holes in the garden, the parents would be screaming and fighting, and the debt man's due.
Poverty is a terrible thing.

I'm not attacking these kids who were digging up their garden. I'm blaming the parents who couldn't control them. A front garden should be reasonably well kept! One kiddie was so deep in his burrow, that my sister worried that if it rained, he would drown. We stayed around the street for a while, but didn't see any adults. Maybe that kiddie eventually dug down to China, I don't know. I will repeat again..I lived up a close in a but 'n' ben. Also lived in a housing scheme. You obviously don't know Govanhill. Very close to the Gorbals..which I also loved, and I worked in the Gorbals for many years, with the Co op. I know very well that there are terrible places in Glasgow...as there are all over Britain, but that's not an excuse to lose one's pride and self respect, and to ignore the fact that one's offspring is in a drunk stupor, causing chaos somewhere. I hope that the Glasgow police don't get taser guns like they do in North America, because a lot of the drunk youth will be tasered...and if they are in such bad health...well, they may not survive it. However, if the "Glesga Bronx" thing gets really out of control, maybe a Charles Bronson character (vigilante) should move in. ha ha.

Posted by: wellfield 12th Apr 2011, 11:20pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 12th Apr 2011, 02:37pm) *
I agree with you completely. I live in Canada also, but go home to Glasgow most every year. Lived up a close in Govanhill, and also a housing scheme. I love all of Britain dearly. I visit some of my family in London (love London!) and we all go up to Glasgow for a while. I still have lots of relatives in Glasgow who were hard working proud people...now enjoying the fruits of their labour. For the life of me, I can't understand why some Scots want to be separate from the rest of Britain. It is all ours to enjoy. Take the Lake District...yes, next door to Scotland..just breathtaking, as are the Highlands of Scotland.

I agree!...and let's face it,tourism is Britains largest money maker....and the Royals lend a big part to that...........Scotland on it's own!....especially in todays financial climate......ah' dinna' think so

Posted by: Dunvegan 12th Apr 2011, 11:33pm

QUOTE (*Barbara* @ 13th Apr 2011, 05:18am) *
I will be watching on TV, It will a grand Wedding.

I am in Australia.

Barbara.

The "colonial cringe" is alive and wel lin the land of OZ!!!

Posted by: Dunvegan 12th Apr 2011, 11:35pm

"Rule Britania, Britania rules the waves.
Scotland ever ever will be be slaves"

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Apr 2011, 12:23am

Well I've just made a visit to HM's facebook and I can tell you she doesn't appear too happy with all you moaners (reading between the lines of course as we do rolleyes.gif ) There weren't many "Likes This" hits on The Moanin' auld buggers frae Glesca message on Her wall. tongue.gif laugh.gif


Posted by: weebren3 13th Apr 2011, 08:27am

Hello Victoria BC, Well I hope all you english enjoy,or should say phonie English enjoy the Empress Big picture,I am sure the empress will charge quite A bit,now get the Union Jack out,dont forget. I will celabrate wae ma ain folks,and wish William and Kate all the best,I just hope they dont follow in the wrong direction like Charlie did wae the wifie. So cheers and all the best in life. I will have wine and ma friends watching on the big picture and ma scots flag. Thinking god help Kate,I hope her mother keeps the eye on that royal bunch. so cheers to aw ma ain folks. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ionnsaigh 13th Apr 2011, 09:26am

QUOTE (Melody @ 12th Apr 2011, 10:11am) *
Never a truer word spoken, brilliant post ionnsaigh.

Thank you Melody, however I should have included that poverty isn't a natural phenomenon. Yes we can experience the odd famine...... What you see in Glasgow however, is not a result of drought.
Those that attack the poor, are certainly wrong in their assumptions, the same age old criticisms apply. Aye they think they see poverty, as being a vile disgusting sight ( well most do ) where they err is that they can't fully understand it.
A bit like showing them a picture of an apple, and an insight as to how it has grown, it's size shape etc,
Aye we know what an apple is. However if they have failed to hold, touch and taste the apple, do they know the apple ?
Then there is the economic argument : They spend all their money on Alcohol, Cigarettes, Drugs, and SKY TV. ( When a pot of homemade soup costs a quarter of the price of a Chinese take away ) What they can't comprehend, is the negative impact it has on the human spirit, poverty attacks your heart and soul.
What they wrongly perceive to be laziness and contempt - is in fact - war wounded casualties. They focus on the size of the individual spoon - when in reality, it's the size of the pot that counts..
So when you see folk celebrating the marriage of two very wealthy foreign individuals, who do a fab trade for us in tourism, it is well worth noting that Auschwitz, does the same thing for Poland.

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 13th Apr 2011, 11:01am

Aye they think they see poverty, as being a vile disgusting sight ( well most do ) where they err is that they can't fully understand it.

As the old Native American Chief said, Iionnsaigh; 'Walk in my shoes'.

'Negative impact on the human spirit, poverty attacks the heart and soul.'

Yes, and creates 'poverty of mind and spirit.
What those who can't understand it never realise is it has a great impact on the whole nation even on those who do 'Have'. It shapes the 'to-morrows' for countless thousands

Posted by: ionnsaigh 13th Apr 2011, 12:19pm

Hear hear Tommy..... if there is wan of us poor, then we are awe poor.

Posted by: marcam7 13th Apr 2011, 02:49pm

Weddin?WhitWeddin!!!

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 13th Apr 2011, 03:05pm

In yesteryear the 'haves' could show open contempt for the poor referring to them as the 'Undeserving poor'- Thatcher upgraded them to the 'disadvantaged' - not recognising we had poor in the land. Major went one better calling them 'Those on modest incomes' - again ignoring we still had poor.
This government is back peddlling in an attempt to label them all 'Benefit cheats'!

Yes, they will still get many thousands 'oh-ing and ah-ing' with the con of a 'fairy tail wedding' but since the post war years - many thousands LESS; that's what a measure of prosperty, improved education, less poverty has acheived.

The elite well knows; none were so patriotic - blind patriotism - as the poor!

Posted by: rumcdonald 13th Apr 2011, 07:09pm

QUOTE (ionnsaigh @ 13th Apr 2011, 07:36am) *
Hear hear Tommy..... if there is wan of us poor, then we are awe poor.


Meaning...."let us all be miserable together" Sad!

Posted by: rumcdonald 13th Apr 2011, 07:13pm

QUOTE (wellfield @ 12th Apr 2011, 06:37pm) *
I agree!...and let's face it,tourism is Britains largest money maker....and the Royals lend a big part to that...........Scotland on it's own!....especially in todays financial climate......ah' dinna' think so

You are right. Scotland would not do well on its own, and Scotland does have some perks in parliament that the English don't have.

Posted by: bilbo.s 13th Apr 2011, 07:25pm

Maybe you are right, as there are too many Scots like you , who believe that their own nation does not have the gumption to run its own affairs. How pathetic ! A country with its own legal, education systems, banks etc cannot separate from overcrowded bankrupt England, while other places in Europe have successfully made very difficult splits. There is no such thing as "alone" in today´s world. Nobody is advocating isolationism for heaven´s sake. I truly despair.

Posted by: Michael Docherty 13th Apr 2011, 08:43pm

QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 12th Apr 2011, 11:52pm) *
"Rule Britania, Britania rules the waves.
Scotland ever ever will be be slaves"

Hey, Dunvegan - I absolutely get it with the 'Slaves' thing but Britain is a nation where the people are not even considered to be Citizens but merely 'Subjects' and that's all across the board, unfortunately.

Posted by: rumcdonald 13th Apr 2011, 08:50pm

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 13th Apr 2011, 10:22am) *
In yesteryear the 'haves' could show open contempt for the poor referring to them as the 'Undeserving poor'- Thatcher upgraded them to the 'disadvantaged' - not recognising we had poor in the land. Major went one better calling them 'Those on modest incomes' - again ignoring we still had poor.
This government is back peddlling in an attempt to label them all 'Benefit cheats'!

Yes, they will still get many thousands 'oh-ing and ah-ing' with the con of a 'fairy tail wedding' but since the post war years - many thousands LESS; that's what a measure of prosperty, improved education, less poverty has acheived.

The elite well knows; none were so patriotic - blind patriotism - as the poor!

Wee fairies have tails now??

Posted by: rumcdonald 14th Apr 2011, 02:09am

QUOTE (marcam7 @ 13th Apr 2011, 10:06am) *
Weddin?WhitWeddin!!!



The Royal wedding!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rumcdonald 14th Apr 2011, 02:57am

QUOTE (Michael Docherty @ 13th Apr 2011, 04:00pm) *
Hey, Dunvegan - I absolutely get it with the 'Slaves' thing but Britain is a nation where the people are not even considered to be Citizens but merely 'Subjects' and that's all across the board, unfortunately.


You are slaves now?? It goes on and on. Forever victims.

Posted by: wellfield 14th Apr 2011, 03:13am

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 13th Apr 2011, 12:42pm) *
Maybe you are right, as there are too many Scots like you , who believe that their own nation does not have the gumption to run its own affairs. How pathetic ! A country with its own legal, education systems, banks etc cannot separate from overcrowded bankrupt England, while other places in Europe have successfully made very difficult splits. There is no such thing as "alone" in today´s world. Nobody is advocating isolationism for heaven´s sake. I truly despair.

Hey' Bilbo's...I don't know if you were referring to 'rumcdonald' or myself in your post here,I'll respect your opinion,but won't accept, QUOTE: "A Scot like you" and moreso the word "pathetic"

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 07:00am

QUOTE (wellfield @ 14th Apr 2011, 05:30am) *
Hey' Bilbo's...I don't know if you were referring to 'rumcdonald' or myself in your post here,I'll respect your opinion,but won't accept, QUOTE: "A Scot like you" and moreso the word "pathetic"

Wellfield, I see nothing wrong with my sentence. Are you and rumcdolnald not Scots with the belief described? I merely said that there are too many like you with this attitude. "Pathetic" refers to the belief that Scots cannot run their own affairs. Any nation unable to do so is pathetic. I do not however respect your opinion- only your right to have it.

Posted by: Dunvegan 14th Apr 2011, 07:05am

I see we hae another tory toerag, warming us to the blessings of the glorious english.... oooops British empire and the joys of being a captive colony of a blighted and knighted few. Well rule Britannia and we all live happily ever after. Dont you just feel sorry for countries that don't have kings and queens and dukes and dukesses and princesses and princes and lords and ladies and Barons and knights with garters to feed clothe protect and worship for ever and ever. It must be oh so difficult to wake up of a morning and know that you are not blessed with farce of an hereditary and foreign monarchy and it's attendant parasites.

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 07:41am

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 14th Apr 2011, 09:17am) *
Wellfield, I see nothing wrong with my sentence. Are you and rumcdolnald not Scots with the belief described? I merely said that there are too many like you with this attitude. "Pathetic" refers to the belief that Scots cannot run their own affairs. Any nation unable to do so is pathetic. I do not however respect your opinion- only your right to have it.

Wellfield,

On reflection I should have said, "There are too many Scots who, like you, believe ........"

I apologize for any misunderstanding caused by my poor syntax. smile.gif

I respect you as a person and your rights to hold beliefs and opinions, but not your opinion in this case. How can I respect a belief which I think is nonsense ?

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 07:53am

QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 14th Apr 2011, 09:22am) *
I see we hae another tory toerag, warming us to the blessings of the glorious english.... oooops British empire and the joys of being a captive colony of a blighted and knighted few. Well rule Britannia and we all live happily ever after. Dont you just feel sorry for countries that don't have kings and queens and dukes and dukesses and princesses and princes and lords and ladies and Barons and knights with garters to feed clothe protect and worship for ever and ever. It must be oh so difficult to wake up of a morning and know that you are not blessed with farce of an hereditary and foreign monarchy and it's attendant parasites.

Dunvegan,

Unfortunately it is not only Scottish tories who prevent independence ( there are very few of them) but rather the great horde of died-in-the-wool Labour voters, who are even more masochistic. sad.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Apr 2011, 09:31am

QUOTE (Michael Docherty @ 13th Apr 2011, 09:00pm) *
Hey, Dunvegan - I absolutely get it with the 'Slaves' thing

No you don't.
Ask the blacks about the "Slaves Thing". Try Alabama for a start, they knew a thing or two about the "Slave Thing".
Stop exaggerating; I've told yous a thousand times. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 14th Apr 2011, 10:10am

Dont you just feel sorry for countries that don't have kings and queens and dukes and dukesses and princesses and princes and lords and ladies and Barons and knights with garters to feed clothe protect and worship forever and ever. – Says Dunvegan

Yes and you know very well Dunvegan guys like Gadaffi very much envy our Establishment/Royals that ensure the ‘elite’ will hold the reins of power forever and ever – what other country in the world can boast of such a system – oh, dictators like Gadaffi/Stalin/Franco have held on to power for decades – our lot, for centuries!! And none of the foregoing had so many fancy uniforms as our lot – AND get fawned over with the full support of the media rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 10:40am

And here`s me thinking we had a democratically elected government.

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 11:44am

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 14th Apr 2011, 12:57pm) *
And here`s me thinking we had a democratically elected government.



Yes, we do, but they do not hold the power. The power is held by the same people and organisations, no matter which party is in government.

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 02:25pm

Bilbo you have whetted my appetite.Who are these people and organisations?Are you saying that there is something other than the Government pulling the strings?I need to know. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ashfield 14th Apr 2011, 02:38pm

Well, just got my Aldi leaflet for next week. Spcial buys include everything you could want for your party to celebrate the wedding (alas, except any people who want to attend huh.gif).

My favourite item is, and I quote, "Royal wedding mugs, twin pack". Says it all really rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 02:44pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 14th Apr 2011, 04:55pm) *
Well, just got my Aldi leaflet for next week. Spcial buys include everything you could want for your party to celebrate the wedding (alas, except any people who want to attend huh.gif).

My favourite item is, and I quote, "Royal mugs, twin pack". Says it all really rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif The mugs are not the Royals !

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 03:10pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 14th Apr 2011, 04:42pm) *
Bilbo you have whetted my appetite.Who are these people and organisations?Are you saying that there is something other than the Government pulling the strings?I need to know. rolleyes.gif



Do you actually believe that the bunch of elected numpties in parliament decides on major policy decisions and that they decide on which bills to promote ? Do you really think that "Yes, Minister" was a silly joke ? Do you think that Big Business, mutinationals, the banks, the churches, the senior Civil Service, the landed aristocracy etc sit back and allow governments to do as they wish?
These are the Establishment and they prevail no matter what arises. They do not care what governments attempt because they are in control always. They look down from Mount Olympus at the worker ants running around below. laugh.gif

Apologies for mixed metaphor BTW

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 03:14pm

So who exactly are you talking about? Names,Bilbo,names.

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 03:18pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 14th Apr 2011, 05:31pm) *
So who exactly are you talking about? Names,Bilbo,names.



I think you should see the film " The Devil´s Advocate" and take heed of the warning therein. tongue.gif

How many big businesses, multinationals, churches, banks etc would you like me to name ? Do I get a prize for how many? tongue.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 03:35pm

Bilbo,I think it time you got your sun hat on. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 14th Apr 2011, 03:46pm

Bilbo - Jupiter well knows who/what IS the power in the land and is an admirer of it - mind just like the Royals he claims he is non-political rolleyes.gif

If you really do have any doubt Jupiter ask that THEE -why do you think he's such a Royal creep after a Knighthood tongue.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 04:22pm

Trying to think when any Royal claimed they were non political.I know Her Majesty has never expressed any political views in public,so Tommy what do you mean?

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 14th Apr 2011, 05:18pm

Naw, Naw , Jupiter you can’t con - draw an ‘auld Gleswegian’ in with your ‘bull’ – you know well what I mean – you ain’t the first ‘Jupiter I’ve known

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Apr 2011, 05:29pm

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 14th Apr 2011, 04:03pm) *
Bilbo - Jupiter well knows who/what IS the power in the land and is an admirer of it - mind just like the Royals he claims he is non-political rolleyes.gif

If you really do have any doubt Jupiter ask that THEE -why do you think he's such a Royal creep after a Knighthood tongue.gif

Tommy, I'm just trying the most direct route: cuttin' out the middle man; the bent politician; the corrupt lobbyist - know what I mean?
We can always depend on Handy Andy takin' a bob or two to help his ex with the kids but in a sense he's kind of up front; you know he's got his hand out.
It's the sleaze balls that we, or rather you lot, rush to elect who are the closet carpet-baggers.
Anyway Tommy, be careful what you say about HM because A wee bird told me she logs on invisible here to see which subjects, apart from me and Joop, she can trust. biggrin.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 05:39pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 14th Apr 2011, 07:46pm) *
Tommy, I'm just trying the most direct route: cuttin' out the middle man; the bent politician; the corrupt lobbyist - know what I mean?
We can always depend on Handy Andy takin' a bob or two to help his ex with the kids but in a sense he's kind of up front; you know he's got his hand out.
It's the sleaze balls that we, or rather you lot, rush to elect who are the closet carpet-baggers.
Anyway Tommy, be careful what you say about HM because A wee bird told me she logs on invisible here to see which subjects, apart from me and Joop, she can trust. biggrin.gif


It wis bad eneugh wi´ God watchin´us aw - noo ye´re tellin´us aboot Lizzie ! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Celyn 14th Apr 2011, 05:43pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 13th Apr 2011, 07:30pm) *
You are right. Scotland would not do well on its own, and Scotland does have some perks in parliament that the English don't have.



What perks are those?

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 05:46pm

QUOTE (Celyn @ 14th Apr 2011, 08:00pm) *
What perks are those?



They get away early on a Friday laugh.gif

Posted by: ashfield 14th Apr 2011, 06:25pm

I think it's a case of mis-spelling, the word was meant to start with a b rather than a p huh.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 06:31pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 14th Apr 2011, 08:42pm) *
I think it's a case of mis-spelling, the word was meant to start with a b rather than a p huh.gif



Naw cannae be that cos the Engurlish huv mair even than us. laugh.gif

Posted by: ashfield 14th Apr 2011, 06:48pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 14th Apr 2011, 07:48pm) *
Naw cannae be that cos the Engurlish huv mair even than us. laugh.gif


Aye, yir right enough. They even have a whole shire named after them rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 07:02pm

Bilbo,Im off for my dinner.I get these names afterwards. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: glasgow lass 14th Apr 2011, 07:15pm

laugh.gif Cant wait to see this wedding, a just love weddings !. Prob have to get up about 3am ,,,,but yes am in lol.So I'll see yis at the reception then and mind noo best behaviour guys lol.

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 07:55pm

QUOTE (glasgow lass @ 14th Apr 2011, 09:32pm) *
laugh.gif Cant wait to see this wedding, a just love weddings !. Prob have to get up about 3am ,,,,but yes am in lol.So I'll see yis at the reception then and mind noo best behaviour guys lol.


Ah ye´re no gaun fur the scramble - ye´ll be sair disappointit. tongue.gif
Och weel. That means ye´re gonnae miss ma anniversary bash in Roquetas de Mar. Never mind, next year is the 40th - ah´ll be expectin´rubies mind. ( Ruby Port will dae !) biggrin.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 14th Apr 2011, 07:59pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 14th Apr 2011, 09:19pm) *
Bilbo,Im off for my dinner.I get these names afterwards. rolleyes.gif



Ye´ll huv a wait. You´re no the Procurer Physical. tongue.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 08:29pm

OK Bilbo, so you can keep a secret.

Posted by: Jupiter 14th Apr 2011, 08:38pm

Can anyone ,anyone tell me who is in the establishment that is always referred to?

Posted by: Rab 14th Apr 2011, 09:59pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 14th Apr 2011, 03:26am) *
The Royal wedding!!!!!!!!!!

What Royal Wedding? huh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Apr 2011, 11:50pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 14th Apr 2011, 08:55pm) *
Can anyone ,anyone tell me who is in the establishment that is always referred to?

DON'T ANYONE ANSWER ... this is an old trick called "Police Entrapment". tongue.gif laugh.gif
Aye Jupiter, you'll have to be up early tae catch the wee yin, eh? biggrin.gif

Posted by: benny 15th Apr 2011, 12:26am

Ah'm innocent so ah fear nothin biggrin.gif .

Frae Wikipedia:

The Establishment is a term used to refer to a visible dominant group or elite which holds power or authority in a nation. The term suggests a closed social group which selects its own members (as opposed to selection by inheritance, merit or election). The term can be used to describe specific entrenched elite structures in specific institutions, but is usually informal in application and is more likely used by the media than by scholars. The term is most often used in Britain, where it includes leading politicians, senior civil servants, the most important financiers, and industrialists, governors of the BBC, and the Royal Court. For example, candidates for political office are often said to have to impress the "party establishment" in order to win endorsement. The term in this sense was coined by the British journalist Henry Fairlie, who in September 1955 in the London magazine The Spectator defined that network of prominent, well-connected people as "the Establishment", explaining:

"By the 'Establishment', I do not only mean the centres of official power—though they are certainly part of it—but rather the whole matrix of official and social relations within which power is exercised. The exercise of power in Britain (more specifically, in England) cannot be understood unless it is recognised that it is exercised socially."

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 15th Apr 2011, 12:54am

(Sienfeld's got it- yes it's theatre and the Royals are puppets - no minds of their own - who act/speak from a script prepared for them - mind the highest paid actors in the world with the greatest of perks!)
AMERICAN comic Jerry Seinfeld stunned telly viewers yesterday with an astonishing attack on our “absurd” Royal Family.

The funnyman blasted Prince William and Kate Middleton’s wedding as a “circus act” and called the Queen a faker who likes “playing dress-up”.

Seinfeld, 56, even mocked the British public for being sucked in by the royals’ “game of pretend”.

The star, who was appearing on ITV1’s Daybreak, shocked hosts Adrian Chiles and Christine Bleakley as he said: “It’s a classic English thing of let’s play dress-up.

“Let’s pretend that these are special people. OK, we’ll all pretend that – that’s what theatre is.”
The comic, speaking via video-link from New York to promote his stand-up show at London’s O2 in June, added: “That’s why the British have the greatest theatre in the world.

“They love to dress up and they love to play pretend. And that’s what the Royal Family is – it’s a huge game of pretend.

“These aren’t special people. It’s fake outfits, phoney hats and gowns.”
Both the show’s hosts were horrified by his rant, with Christine, 32, blurting out: “How dare he?”
And Adrian, 44, fumed: “I can’t bear Americans criticising the Royals – it turns me into a royalist.

“He’ll be doing that show from the Tower Of London, never mind the O2.”
But Seinfeld was more impressed with Brit comic Ricky Gervais as he defended the 49-year-old The Office star over his controversial performance at the Golden Globes Awards.
“The job of a comedian is not to leave the situation as you found it,” he said. “Your job is to come into that room and make something happen in that room. If Ricky does the Golden Globes ain, everyone will tune in to see it.

“That’s your job – make people come to see what you’re going to do.”

Posted by: rumcdonald 15th Apr 2011, 12:55am

QUOTE (Celyn @ 14th Apr 2011, 01:00pm) *
What perks are those?

Celyn too many to mention on here. Just "google" Scottish perks in parliament. My English brother in law gets riled about it. Cheers

Posted by: rumcdonald 15th Apr 2011, 01:09am

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 14th Apr 2011, 08:11pm) *
(Sienfeld's got it- yes it's theatre and the Royals are puppets - no minds of their own - who act/speak from a script prepared for them - mind the highest paid actors in the world with the greatest of perks!)
AMERICAN comic Jerry Seinfeld stunned telly viewers yesterday with an astonishing attack on our “absurd” Royal Family.

The funnyman blasted Prince William and Kate Middleton’s wedding as a “circus act” and called the Queen a faker who likes “playing dress-up”.

Seinfeld, 56, even mocked the British public for being sucked in by the royals’ “game of pretend”.

The star, who was appearing on ITV1’s Daybreak, shocked hosts Adrian Chiles and Christine Bleakley as he said: “It’s a classic English thing of let’s play dress-up.

“Let’s pretend that these are special people. OK, we’ll all pretend that – that’s what theatre is.”
The comic, speaking via video-link from New York to promote his stand-up show at London’s O2 in June, added: “That’s why the British have the greatest theatre in the world.

“They love to dress up and they love to play pretend. And that’s what the Royal Family is – it’s a
huge game of pretend.

“These aren’t special people. It’s fake outfits, phoney hats and gowns.”
Both the show’s hosts were horrified by his rant, with Christine, 32, blurting out: “How dare he?”
And Adrian, 44, fumed: “I can’t bear Americans criticising the Royals – it turns me into a royalist.

“He’ll be doing that show from the Tower Of London, never mind the O2.”
But Seinfeld was more impressed with Brit comic Ricky Gervais as he defended the 49-year-old The Office star over his controversial performance at the Golden Globes Awards.
“The job of a comedian is not to leave the situation as you found it,” he said. “Your job is to come into that room and make something happen in that room. If Ricky does the Golden Globes ain, everyone will tune in to see it.

“That’s your job – make people come to see what you’re going to do.”

Jerry Seinfeld is a comedian. They like to cross boundaries to get attention..especially when his hit show is long gone. Most Americans like the royal family, That is a fact. Jerry saw that Ricky Gervais "stirred it up" on the Golden Globes, and tried to do the same. Ricky, however is much funnier...and being BRITISH, gets away with it in Hollywood....as they love the Brits with a passion.

Posted by: rumcdonald 15th Apr 2011, 01:27am

QUOTE (Rab @ 10th Apr 2011, 06:02pm) *
Should that not be URANUS Davee?

Rab Rab Don't be vulgar. I was looking at some of the photos that the members published, and found some by Rab. Is that you? Lovely photos, in fact one of them..I think it was your grandaughter, looks a bit like my own grandaughter. They have the same look. My grandaughter is Canadian and is 13. How old is your grandaughter?
We can agree to disagree on the Royal Wedding thingy, but I bet you that we would get on well...both being from Glasgow. Cheers, Ruth

Posted by: glasgow lass 15th Apr 2011, 02:19am

Naw bill a draw the line here no scrambles for me .This lass cant be bought biggrin.gif .

Posted by: Dunvegan 15th Apr 2011, 02:47am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 14th Apr 2011, 07:48pm) *
No you don't.
Ask the blacks about the "Slaves Thing". Try Alabama for a start, they knew a thing or two about the "Slave Thing".
Stop exaggerating; I've told yous a thousand times. rolleyes.gif

As late as the years towards the end of the 18 century there was still Indentured labour in the mining interests in Scotland that amounted to virtual slavery. This was passed on to the children of the indentured and saw 8 year old girls hauling Cwt of coal on their backs for hours on end. Incidents occurred where even running off and joining the British army was no escape as there were cases of soldiers being returned to their mining masters. All this in the land of hope and glory. And there are those out there who can read and write wanting to question the nomenclature of "Establishment"

Posted by: Dunvegan 15th Apr 2011, 02:49am

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 15th Apr 2011, 11:11am) *
(Sienfeld's got it- yes it's theatre and the Royals are puppets - no minds of their own - who act/speak from a script prepared for them - mind the highest paid actors in the world with the greatest of perks!)
AMERICAN comic Jerry Seinfeld stunned telly viewers yesterday with an astonishing attack on our “absurd” Royal Family.

The funnyman blasted Prince William and Kate Middleton’s wedding as a “circus act” and called the Queen a faker who likes “playing dress-up”.

Seinfeld, 56, even mocked the British public for being sucked in by the royals’ “game of pretend”.

The star, who was appearing on ITV1’s Daybreak, shocked hosts Adrian Chiles and Christine Bleakley as he said: “It’s a classic English thing of let’s play dress-up.

“Let’s pretend that these are special people. OK, we’ll all pretend that – that’s what theatre is.”
The comic, speaking via video-link from New York to promote his stand-up show at London’s O2 in June, added: “That’s why the British have the greatest theatre in the world.

“They love to dress up and they love to play pretend. And that’s what the Royal Family is – it’s a huge game of pretend.

“These aren’t special people. It’s fake outfits, phoney hats and gowns.”
Both the show’s hosts were horrified by his rant, with Christine, 32, blurting out: “How dare he?”
And Adrian, 44, fumed: “I can’t bear Americans criticising the Royals – it turns me into a royalist.

“He’ll be doing that show from the Tower Of London, never mind the O2.”
But Seinfeld was more impressed with Brit comic Ricky Gervais as he defended the 49-year-old The Office star over his controversial performance at the Golden Globes Awards.
“The job of a comedian is not to leave the situation as you found it,” he said. “Your job is to come into that room and make something happen in that room. If Ricky does the Golden Globes ain, everyone will tune in to see it.

“That’s your job – make people come to see what you’re going to do.”

Never liked him until now!!!

Posted by: bilbo.s 15th Apr 2011, 07:53am

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 14th Apr 2011, 10:46pm) *
OK Bilbo, so you can keep a secret.



It´s only a secret to you. The rest of us know . cool.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Apr 2011, 09:42am

QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 15th Apr 2011, 03:04am) *
and saw 8 year old girls hauling Cwt of coal on their backs for hours on end.


Even you don't believe that!
1cwt = 112lbs = 50kg.
I delivered 1cwt bags of coal on my shoulders to some Glasgow tenements as 17/18 old so don't give that rubbish. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ashfield 15th Apr 2011, 10:18am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 15th Apr 2011, 10:59am) *
Even you don't believe that!
1cwt = 112lbs = 50kg.
I delivered 1cwt bags of coal on my shoulders to some Glasgow tenements as 17/18 old so don't give that rubbish. rolleyes.gif


If they were like the cwt bags of coal delivered to our house then very few would have been actually a full cwt rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 15th Apr 2011, 11:20am

THH Im really surprised you would suggest such a thing.Do you know anything of Police Entrapment?
If you do please tell us all about it.I think this establishment referred to is an abstact,non tangible entity otherwise would we not have members saying,"Im in the establishment.I run this country"?
It reminds me of all the corrupt councillors and council officials who took backhanders and wallowed in corrupt practices.Im still waiting to find out who they were. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Apr 2011, 11:26am

Ash, I helped out occasionally with my brother in law who delivered to coal miners; or who they wanted their concession (@2 quid a ton), or parts thereof, delivered to. The measure was the correct weight but I hated the idea of just dumping it on a woman's kitchen floor because we had no time to wait about while she decided where the hell she could put it in her wee tenement flat.
Ah'm no' as hard as I sometimes make out to be rolleyes.gif cool.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 15th Apr 2011, 11:27am

I think this establishment referred to is an abstact,non tangible entity otherwise would we not have members saying,"Im in the establishment.I run this country"?


What a silly, naive notion ! I suppose you do not believe in the Mafia or other organised crime, because they do not declare themselves, and others are unable to name their members.

Posted by: Jupiter 15th Apr 2011, 12:16pm

Deflection.

Posted by: ionnsaigh 15th Apr 2011, 12:25pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 15th Apr 2011, 01:12am) *
Celyn too many to mention on here. Just "google" Scottish perks in parliament. My English brother in law gets riled about it. Cheers

If perks are to be given nationality ( Scottish ) then fine.. lets give other aspects of the Establishment, nationality too.
Lets see.. English Parliament... English Queen... English Voice... English Prime Minister... English Throne... English City ( London ) and last but not least, English brother in laws, who sound right miserable, as they warm their toes, with Scotland's Oil and Gas supplies.
All the above would profess British identity, after all, it's the nearest thing to the English identity, one can get......without having to recognise, those troublesome Celts..........

Posted by: bilbo.s 15th Apr 2011, 02:51pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 15th Apr 2011, 02:33pm) *
Deflection.



Perfectly valid analogy.

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 15th Apr 2011, 03:05pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 15th Apr 2011, 12:44pm) *
I think this establishment referred to is an abstact,non tangible entity otherwise would we not have members saying,"Im in the establishment.I run this country"?

What a silly, naive notion ! I suppose you do not believe in the Mafia or other organised crime, because they do not declare themselves, and others are unable to name their members.

Jupiter believes -well sez 'e does!!! - that Iraq was invaded out of compassion for the sufferings of the Iraqi people - and like wise the caring Mr.Cameron couldn't bear the thought of what that bad Gadaffi was doing to his own people rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Apr 2011, 03:27pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 15th Apr 2011, 12:33pm) *
Deflection.

I take it that you would accept that there are bent coppers; perhaps also among the higher ranks.
Could you name names Jupiter - or care to deflect? cool.gif

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 15th Apr 2011, 04:31pm

you would accept that there are bent coppers; perhaps also among the higher ranks.

Only someone as common as you could think such a thing, THEE tongue.gif – next you’ll be saying that Jupiter is foolish to believe that Iraq was invaded out of compassion for the poor Iraqi people rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ionnsaigh 15th Apr 2011, 05:28pm

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 15th Apr 2011, 04:48pm) *
you would accept that there are bent coppers; perhaps also among the higher ranks.

Only someone as common as you could think such a thing, THEE tongue.gif – next you’ll be saying that Jupiter is foolish to believe that Iraq was invaded out of compassion for the poor Iraqi people rolleyes.gif

No it wasn't that Tommy ( at least I don't think so ) it was WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION . WMD's , funny how the term became ( out of fashion ) with the media.

Posted by: Rab 15th Apr 2011, 09:47pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 15th Apr 2011, 02:44am) *
Rab Rab Don't be vulgar. I was looking at some of the photos that the members published, and found some by Rab. Is that you? Lovely photos, in fact one of them..I think it was your grandaughter, looks a bit like my own grandaughter. They have the same look. My grandaughter is Canadian and is 13. How old is your grandaughter?
We can agree to disagree on the Royal Wedding thingy, but I bet you that we would get on well...both being from Glasgow. Cheers, Ruth

Vulgar, vulgar? Moi? Read the post to which I was answering Ruth! Yes, there is only one RAB on here, some might say one too many but that's their problem. There are some pretend Rabs but you can see them a mile away. My GD Lucy is coming up 11.

Posted by: rumcdonald 16th Apr 2011, 01:23am

QUOTE (Rab @ 15th Apr 2011, 05:04pm) *
Vulgar, vulgar? Moi? Read the post to which I was answering Ruth! Yes, there is only one RAB on here, some might say one too many but that's their problem. There are some pretend Rabs but you can see them a mile away. My GD Lucy is coming up 11.

I know Rab, It is davEE who is the vulgar one..but don't encourage him.
Love your grandaughter's Sherlock Holmes outfit, pipe and all! Great photo. My eyes are drawn to the animals on the shelf, above her head. The wee cows look so alive....can almost hear them moo...ing.

Posted by: Dunvegan 16th Apr 2011, 03:15am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 15th Apr 2011, 07:59pm) *
Even you don't believe that!
1cwt = 112lbs = 50kg.
I delivered 1cwt bags of coal on my shoulders to some Glasgow tenements as 17/18 old so don't give that rubbish. rolleyes.gif

Recorded from scholastic materiel of the more unassailable authority. I will recover the source book on Scottish economic history and quote it to you chapter and verse.

Posted by: Jupiter 16th Apr 2011, 07:54am

THH/TK I can name a number of police officers who have fell well short of the standards expected.This week Inspector Halbert was fined for sending threatening messages to a junior officer.Const Karen Howie jailed for passing sensitive info to criminals.No deflection here.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 16th Apr 2011, 10:23am

QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 16th Apr 2011, 03:32am) *
Recorded from scholastic materiel of the more unassailable authority. I will recover the source book on Scottish economic history and quote it to you chapter and verse.

"Recorded from scholastic materiel of the more unassailable authority".
I love it when people use such terms to support their arguments. Religious fanatics and Sect leaders, some scientists and historians and even Royalists and supporters of dictators bandy it about a lot. rolleyes.gif
Of course history shows us that there is no such animal as this "unassailable authority" rolleyes.gif


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 16th Apr 2011, 11:16am

How it was 30 years ago. People seem only to remember neighbourhoods; some in their hundreds, having an excuse for fun; a right ol' party on streets mostly filled with relatives and friends - and no police crowd control.

I suppose these days we'd have to be very careful of the bomb-in-the-baby-carriage.

The reason that I missed all that fun back then was that I was off on a contract somewhere abroad. When I got back my children told me how embarrassed they had been at hearing their mother relate to everyone with whom she spoke about how she worked for Prince Charles' godparents, the Mountains; a family of Lawyers who owned the village of Little Grimsby. Bit of nepotism there. One her sisters was housekeeper to the elder Mrs Mountain while an other was cook; otherwise my wife wouldn't even have been employed as a cleaning lady. rolleyes.gif
Mind you, to be fair, the Mountains did offer me the therapeutic use of their swimming pool a year earlier after I had a big operation but as soon as I was on my feet I was away on contract again so I gave up what, possibly, might have been my only real chance of shaking the hand that shook the hand that would one day sit on the throne. rolleyes.gif
Mind you, I wasn't really interested in a knighthood in those days but at least nowadays, knighthood or no knighthood, I can always brag that my ex wife used to clean house for Charlie's godmother. rolleyes.gif

Hey, Jimmy! Where's the party?

From today's "The Independent":

QUOTE
Let's party like it's 1981: The day Britain had a right royal knees-up

Thirty years ago, the nation embraced the wedding of Charles and Di with a flurry of street parties. Why are we so reluctant to repeat the experience this month?

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. In 1981, when Charles and Diana married, there was a chance that a "fairytale wedding" held some assurances for the future. But that was 30 years ago, and things were different. Back then, the way to celebrate the romantic union of a socially-awkward royal and his Sloaney bride was to hold a street party. In 2011, only 4,000 road closure applications have been requested across England and Wales for William and Kate's big day, meaning a third of all councils haven't received any.

On 29 July 1981, though, a community knees-up was all the rage. Photographs from that day are grainy; but the images show a moment when the famous British reserve was momentarily put on ice, and people came out from behind their front doors to meet their neighbours. Up and down the country, Britons turned their streets into party zones, which typically meant hanging bunting fashioned in the colours of the national flag, setting up long trestle tables piled with homemade food, and wearing Union Jack hats. Around 700 million people worldwide were excited enough to watch the wedding ceremony on television; many people remember the local party more clearly than they recall the pictures of the royal couple.

Simon Ashley, now a Lib Dem councillor for Gorton, Manchester, was 14. "I remember it being important," he says firmly. In the months running up to the wedding, neighbours got together for house meetings, and the community rallied around to transform the little cul-de-sac in Blakely, Manchester, into a patriotic party zone. There was a bar in one of the garages, and a DJ, who played ELO's "Hold on Tight" every 15 minutes.

"It was a lovely sunny day," Ashley says. "There was a girl I fancied there, but she was more interested in the DJ and older boys." The party wasn't an outpouring of royalism, he says – just an excuse to have fun. What really stood out for Ashley wasn't Diana's dress or the party games, but the rabbit supper (his mum wanted to cook something special for the neighbours). As far as his brothers knew, it was chicken.

"They loved it when they thought it was chicken; as soon as they heard it was rabbit, they kicked off!" No rabbit for school teacher Kath Horwill, who was six at the time, and remembers celebrating in a local street at Wall Heath in the West Midlands. She had the ubiquitous street party experience ("I wore a Union Jack hat and sat at a trestle table eating party food"); under the red, white and blue bunting hung between the windows of the houses, there were games in the day and, at night, a disco. This was no half-hearted affair. "One of the neighbours put their stereo system on their drive and we danced in the street," she says. "I can remember it being exciting because there was so much hype surrounding the wedding, but I think it was the party itself that I was most excited about." ...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/lets-party-like-its-1981-the-day-britain-had-a-right-royal-kneesup-2267225.html

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 16th Apr 2011, 12:15pm

And it was all one big con - even 'his' kids must know it now.'Ah well a lesson on what 'we' do children and what 'we' can get away with' - says Daddy rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ashfield 16th Apr 2011, 01:46pm

I see one of the newspapers is giving away a two part DVD of Royal weddings. I assume the second part will be the divorces rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 16th Apr 2011, 04:01pm

British film makers have also completed a film which they started in February about the Story of Wills and Kate. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 16th Apr 2011, 07:01pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 16th Apr 2011, 06:18pm) *
British film makers have also completed a film which they started in February about the Story of Wills and Kate. rolleyes.gif



Haud me back ! laugh.gif

Posted by: Isobel 16th Apr 2011, 09:05pm

I will be watching ,I wish the young couple all the best of luck. Lets hope its a marriage that will last. I do hope so.

Posted by: Crewsy Fixer 16th Apr 2011, 09:22pm

I seen a news report about the hotel where young Kate will spend her Wedding Eve, Goring Hotel, Belgravia. The manager, a Mr Goring, said we like to make people feel at home at The Goring.

I wouldnt feel at home in The Goring.

Royalty would. and probably will.


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Apr 2011, 12:42am

When I stayed at the Goring I also thought it might have a connection to Herman Göring too but then I found out why it was called the Goring. I called the desk about 10pm and asked if there was any chance of a hot supper. The receptionist said, "Go ring ze pizza express" tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: auldbutcher 17th Apr 2011, 01:45am

Jasus the butch went fer his papers the day lifted my daily Mail an lo an behold they had kept there promise there nestling unner neath the plastic wis a dvd ,title royal weddings owere the past 100 years.

As i hidnae got a sickbag i controlled my nausea tore the plastic open and put the disc o royal propaganda tae the side o the counter ,while peying fer my purchases i espied an auldyin wie a face like a weel skelpt erse ,lady ses I you are welcome tae that dvd as i have nae time fer that mob ,with a look o utter disdain the auld biddy snatched the booty up.

Then a thought struck me royal weddings ,the tract record ,dooki windsor ex nazi luvver used like a visa card by a skinny yank wie the morals o an alley cat, Pricess Mags divorcee wie a pre-preference fer toy boys ,Andy airmiles divorced likes them young,ANNE divorcee, Prinz Chic who used a wee lassie an discarded her fer a grand national runner,Eddy weel what can i say merried an will stay that way looks and intellect think TIM nice but dim .

Canny ferget daddypoos the greek ponce who was often spotted by all and sundry waiting by the sage exit door ,the auld yin who took my discarded dvd ach ahm 71 getting a wee bit fergetful noo ah cooda been her toyboy hope she has enjoyment sookin her wee mint imperial and thinking those royals its like a mills an boon ,me i think Harold Robins laugh.gif wink.gif

Posted by: Dunvegan 17th Apr 2011, 02:21am

I cant wait for it all to be over. The glorious fairy tale wedding of the dysfunctional family Mountbadden or what ever they are calling themselves today, will be a marriage made in heaven, or at least in the church of Anne Boleyn, according to all English media forecasts. The Chinese souvenirs(made exclusively and only sold in officially sanctioned outlets in U.K.) street parties , to convince you that your are all one happy family sharing in the dazzling nuptials. Poverty will be abolished, condemned prisoners pardoned, pensions will be doubled, generational unemployment will no longer loom over this "sceptred isle". Halitosis bronchitis, pneumonia and a host of other social ailments will in one beloved word"IDO" forever cease to be a scourge in this "seat of mars, this other Eden demi paradise...... ".

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Apr 2011, 10:56am

The last I saw was that the voting on this topic put the sour faces in the minority at a ratio of 3:10 against.
Enjoy suckin' yer lemons. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Apr 2011, 11:11am

Auld Butch, did you read this in your Daily Mail? tongue.gif biggrin.gif



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377756/Royal-Wedding-Homeless-girl-Shozna-20-wowed-Prince-William-invited.html

Posted by: auldbutcher 17th Apr 2011, 11:54am

My god whit a perr a copter pilot wie dwindling locks ''did he staun to close tae the rotors'' and an anorexic chic, jasus at this rate o body loss she will need a blud transfusion tae make it doon the aisle .

The grotesque addams family aw booted an suited wunner if Anne will dae her Wellington impression agin prinz chic wie his row o medals accompanied wie a Burtons tailors dummy wie the other medal's stuck o ower it , the embalmed bodies o the dooky embra an her maj on roller skates ''does anywan relly believe this perr are still breathing ,Andy who should be o the sex offenders list ,an neddy or teddy the failed film director .

Jasus if Barnum wis still alive he widda ended up ah billionaire promoting this mob , luv the guff aboot the nation hoding its breath in anticipation o the big day , me i'd luv this mob tae hode there breath tae the big day.

By jupiter if any wan finds ah street party in bonnie Scotland ahl pey fer the party mysel,weel folks it willnae be long till this perr produces ah couple o snappers thus bleeding the national purse tae even higher debit.

O ra gever noo'' god save oor gracious queen an o the hanger ons in between'' ,jasus wheres mah passport laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 17th Apr 2011, 06:46pm

QUOTE (auldbutcher @ 17th Apr 2011, 07:11am) *
My god whit a perr a copter pilot wie dwindling locks ''did he staun to close tae the rotors'' and an anorexic chic, jasus at this rate o body loss she will need a blud transfusion tae make it doon the aisle .

The grotesque addams family aw booted an suited wunner if Anne will dae her Wellington impression agin prinz chic wie his row o medals accompanied wie a Burtons tailors dummy wie the other medal's stuck o ower it , the embalmed bodies o the dooky embra an her maj on roller skates ''does anywan relly believe this perr are still breathing ,Andy who should be o the sex offenders list ,an neddy or teddy the failed film director .

Jasus if Barnum wis still alive he widda ended up ah billionaire promoting this mob , luv the guff aboot the nation hoding its breath in anticipation o the big day , me i'd luv this mob tae hode there breath tae the big day.

By jupiter if any wan finds ah street party in bonnie Scotland ahl pey fer the party mysel,weel folks it willnae be long till this perr produces ah couple o snappers thus bleeding the national purse tae even higher debt.

O ra gever noo'' god save oor gracious queen an o the hanger ons in between'' ,jasus wheres mah passport laugh.gif laugh.gif



How long did it take you to compose this train wreck??

Posted by: rumcdonald 17th Apr 2011, 06:50pm

QUOTE (Isobel @ 16th Apr 2011, 04:22pm) *
I will be watching ,I wish the young couple all the best of luck. Lets hope its a marriage that will last. I do hope so.

We'll have to be wide awake at 3:00 am, but it will be worth it. Georgetown is lovely. My son lives there.

Posted by: auldbutcher 17th Apr 2011, 08:41pm

A luvver o Jamaican booze member an set yer alarm fer the big day got a funny feeling yer cosseted in some remote island and don't pey any tax or insurance or are you prinz chic haven a go at the butch are you a sleeper wie nae train o thought ,aff the rails choo's yer reply carefully rumdonny ahl hiv two barkeep nae ice laugh.gif ohmy.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 17th Apr 2011, 09:12pm

QUOTE (auldbutcher @ 17th Apr 2011, 03:58pm) *
A luvver o Jamaican booze member an set yer alarm fer the big day got a funny feeling yer cosseted in some remote island and don't pey any tax or insurance or are you prinz chic haven a go at the butch are you a sleeper wie nae train o thought ,aff the rails choo's yer reply carefully rumdonny ahl hiv two barkeep nae ice laugh.gif ohmy.gif

I must confess, you make me laugh. "rumdonny" ha ha! No, I'm not a rum drinker. R U M are just letters in my name. I'm not on a remote island, and pay plenty in taxes. Choo Choo Choo! (love the Virgin express trains but still miss the choo choo's)

Posted by: Jupiter 17th Apr 2011, 09:40pm

Just watching the Royal weddings,The Queen and Princess Margaret and I just hope the forthcoming event goes as well.It should be a great day for the country. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Crewsy Fixer 17th Apr 2011, 09:48pm

Butcher, you remind me of Erchie, he was a character in a Glasgow newspaper column in the 30s, I have got a book about him. On the back it says.

Imagine the 20 and 30s and, if you were to imagine a droll Glaswegian tenement dweller, of Highland descent, who could tell you stories of his neighbours and relations that would have you creased with laughter, you'd have imagined Erchie McPherson.

A waiter and a Beadle and as witty as they come. Erchie will tell you himself that he's the real original with the flat feet but a warm heart.

Hes also a true philosopher with something to say about everything from marriage to death, from education to Royalty, from economics to the Arts and more besides.

Posted by: Jupiter 17th Apr 2011, 09:59pm

Crewsyfixer, a great book which Ive read cover to cover many times.By Neil Munro more famous for Tales of Para Handy and the Vital Spark.
Erchie spoke real sense,I may add rolleyes.gif
Im just going to dig it out.

Posted by: Crewsy Fixer 17th Apr 2011, 10:02pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 17th Apr 2011, 10:16pm) *
Crewsyfixer, a great book which Ive read cover to cover many times.By Neil Munro more famous for Tales of Para Handy and the Vital Spark.
Erchie spoke real sense,I may add rolleyes.gif

Aye, but still.

and his wife Jinnet.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Apr 2011, 11:43pm

Auldbutch, maybe the big London party will be cancelled anyway on security grounds since there's more than you got a grudge for Flt Lt. Wales and his brother Capt. Spare Heir the Apache pilot; who's training for Apache service in Afghanistan.



http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/241205/241205

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 18th Apr 2011, 12:22am

Did you see where 'Terror of the Taliban' has been promoted to Captain, Butch rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 18th Apr 2011, 07:40am

http://youtu.be/5qu4wQwc6QU



Thi is just wonderful ! laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 18th Apr 2011, 08:55am

Is Billy Connelly in it? laugh.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 18th Apr 2011, 09:17am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 18th Apr 2011, 11:12am) *
Is Billy Connelly in it? laugh.gif

He doesn't work with other comics. rolleyes.gif

I wonder if it was on sale at the Barras at the weekend. unsure.gif

Posted by: benny 18th Apr 2011, 10:44am

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 17th Apr 2011, 11:16pm) *
Crewsyfixer, a great book which Ive read cover to cover many times.By Neil Munro more famous for Tales of Para Handy and the Vital Spark.
Erchie spoke real sense,I may add rolleyes.gif
Im just going to dig it out.

Yes, couthy Gelsga philosophy at its best. The difference between Erchie an auldbutch is that Erchie wis virtually a Teetotaller. biggrin.gif An don't forget Duffy, the coalman.

Posted by: Jupiter 18th Apr 2011, 11:49am

Aye. He talked sense with clear unambiguous English.

Posted by: Dunvegan 18th Apr 2011, 12:07pm

QUOTE (auldbutcher @ 18th Apr 2011, 06:58am) *
A luvver o Jamaican booze member an set yer alarm fer the big day got a funny feeling yer cosseted in some remote island and don't pey any tax or insurance or are you prinz chic haven a go at the butch are you a sleeper wie nae train o thought ,aff the rails choo's yer reply carefully rumdonny ahl hiv two barkeep nae ice laugh.gif ohmy.gif

Dinna take the bait Butch yon is only "ye ken wha" in ane o" his reincarnations as a normal wee bigot an toerag toraidhe, wha if he ever came frea Glesca it wis the suthron end o' Carlisle Ha'.

Posted by: bilbo.s 18th Apr 2011, 01:27pm

QUOTE (Jupiter @ 18th Apr 2011, 12:16am) *
Crewsyfixer, a great book which Ive read cover to cover many times.By Neil Munro more famous for Tales of Para Handy and the Vital Spark.
Erchie spoke real sense,I may add rolleyes.gif
Im just going to dig it out.


Yippee ! We agree on something. smile.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 18th Apr 2011, 02:16pm

Bilbo,heres me thinking we were kindred spirits rolleyes.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 18th Apr 2011, 02:29pm

Well, if you disagree with somebody all of the time, you truly must be a bigot. tongue.gif

Posted by: Jupiter 18th Apr 2011, 02:50pm

rolleyes.gif

Posted by: GG 18th Apr 2011, 07:54pm

Apparently, there is a street party in Glasgow planned to celebrate the forthcoming marriage of the Prince William and Kate Middleton. The event will take place in Duke Street and will be organised by the Bristol Bar.

All welcome.

GG.

Posted by: bilbo.s 18th Apr 2011, 08:01pm

QUOTE (GG @ 18th Apr 2011, 10:11pm) *
Apparently, there is a street party in Glasgow planned to celebrate the forthcoming marriage of the Prince William and Kate Middleton. The event will take place in Duke Street and will be organised by the Bristol Bar.

All welcome.

GG.

Duke Street ? Oh my ,and here I'll be stuck in Roquetas de Mar. Cruel world. laugh.gif

Wait a minute. How can they close Duke Street??

Posted by: ashfield 18th Apr 2011, 08:08pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 18th Apr 2011, 09:18pm) *
Wait a minute . how can they close Duke Street??


Easily, everybody will be at home watching the telly rolleyes.gif

Posted by: benny 18th Apr 2011, 09:19pm

Duke Street - mere aristocracy. Ah wid've thought it wid be Queen Street at least furra Royal Wedding. smile.gif

Posted by: wombat 19th Apr 2011, 12:32am

rolleyes.gif or mibbie coronation street,auld ena sharples wid wet herself wie excitement happy.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 19th Apr 2011, 01:50am

Bristol Baur, Dook Street... hmmm, that no a wee bit east endish fur us toonehied toffs. Noo if it wus up yer Kelvingroove..

I huve been hoofed oot o' better cludgies than yon, so might jist gie that wan a wee bye.

Anywi' wits way awe this fuss and yanks going doo lally, eet's no like it's anywan important or of any consequence thets gittin lumberit.

Mindy ye, ony excuse for a week or twa on the swallie is goat to be fair game.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 20th Apr 2011, 01:42am

When asked if I'd be throwin' a party over here I said, "I'd like to but I'm a poor wee pensioner who hasn't got a bean."
Then I was told to get onto eBay quick ...



QUOTE
Kate Middleton jelly bean expected to fetch £500

A jelly bean bearing Kate Middleton's likeness is to be auctioned off on eBay.

He's shown off his Kate Middleton jelly bean to the world and now a British man is hoping to fetch a pretty penny for the confectionery on eBay.

The yellow jelly bean speckled in the faint shape of the future princess of England has been making rounds on the internet with split screen photos comparing the two: long flowing hair, a faint grin and discernable facial features are stippled in a pattern of red dots.

In an interview with Britain's The Daily Telegraph, Wesley Hosie, 25, said he was tucking into a bag of jelly beans from The Jelly Bean Factory with his girlfriend Jessica White when he immediately noticed Kate's face in the candy.

"As Jessica opened the jar, I saw her immediately. She was literally lying there staring back at me," he told the paper last week.

The bean has yet to appear on eBay but royal watchers are sure to be keeping an eye out. Hosie, a trainee accountant, said he plans to sell it for £500 (€567).

In 2004, a decade-old grilled cheese sandwich bearing the likeness of the Virgin Mary sold for $28,000.

Posted by: rumcdonald 20th Apr 2011, 01:56am

QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 16th Apr 2011, 09:38pm) *
I cant wait for it all to be over. The glorious fairy tale wedding of the dysfunctional family Mountbadden or what ever they are calling themselves today, will be a marriage made in heaven, or at least in the church of Anne Boleyn, according to all English media forecasts. The Chinese souvenirs(made exclusively and only sold in officially sanctioned outlets in U.K.) street parties , to convince you that your are all one happy family sharing in the dazzling nuptials. Poverty will be abolished, condemned prisoners pardoned, pensions will be doubled, generational unemployment will no longer loom over this "sceptred isle". Halitosis bronchitis, pneumonia and a host of other social ailments will in one beloved word"IDO" forever cease to be a scourge in this "seat of mars, this other Eden demi paradise...... ".

It is Mountbatten. If you cannot spell it properly, do not use it. Anne Boleyn is history. Stop living in the past. I am a wee Glasgow girl and just love my British heritage....some of it less than palatable..like most of history. So looking forward to the royal wedding!!

Posted by: rumcdonald 20th Apr 2011, 02:08am

QUOTE (GG @ 18th Apr 2011, 03:11pm) *
Apparently, there is a street party in Glasgow planned to celebrate the forthcoming marriage of the Prince William and Kate Middleton. The event will take place in Duke Street and will be organised by the Bristol Bar.

All welcome.

GG.

To GG Wish I was in Glasgow for the royal wedding, but I live in Canada now. However I go over there every year, and still think of going back to live in Glasgow, where I was born. In the Canadian papers today, they stated that only 35% of Scots were interested in the wedding. What a flaming shame! I will however be over there in Aug for 5 weeks..enjoying the Glasgow that I love.

Posted by: wellfield 20th Apr 2011, 06:13am

Thought I'd let the anti-monarchists know that there are 3 or 4 programs a day on TV over here in the States now that the Wedding is getting closer!!!!!

REBUTTALS: This Space

OH'..British breakfast with Champagne & California Orange Juice at my place.....*ALL WELCOME*

Posted by: bilbo.s 20th Apr 2011, 07:36am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 20th Apr 2011, 04:13am) *
It is Mountbatten. If you cannot spell it properly, do not use it. Anne Boleyn is history. Stop living in the past. I am a wee Glasgow girl and just love my British heritage....some of it less than palatable..like most of history. So looking forward to the royal wedding!!

As one who has been castigated in the past for criticizing others' spelling and grammar, I must warn you that such comments are frowned upon here. smile.gif We must curb our pedagogic leanings in the interest of political correctness, to avoid offending our fellow posters. You have, however, carte blanche to offend in many other ways. tongue.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 20th Apr 2011, 08:58am

But a teechir wot kant spel muste be fare game, ay no'? tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 20th Apr 2011, 09:02am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 20th Apr 2011, 11:15am) *
But a teechir wot kant spel muste be fare game, ay no'? tongue.gif laugh.gif

Does that mean that I can just presume that they are all teachers , and get away with it ? cool.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 20th Apr 2011, 09:05am

Who gives then 6 o' the best? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 20th Apr 2011, 10:47am

Go on ... You know you want to biggrin.gif


Get your free desktop Royal Wedding countdown clock here ... and watch it count the minutes and days till the next Royal divorce afterwards, Auldbutch laugh.gif

http://crossgl.com/rwc_overview.htm

Posted by: rumcdonald 20th Apr 2011, 03:45pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 18th Apr 2011, 02:57am) *
http://youtu.be/5qu4wQwc6QU



Thi is just wonderful ! laugh.gif


Love the royals...but definitely don't fancy this silly film.

Posted by: rumcdonald 20th Apr 2011, 03:57pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 20th Apr 2011, 02:53am) *
As one who has been castigated in the past for criticizing others' spelling and grammar, I must warn you that such comments are frowned upon here. smile.gif We must curb our pedagogic leanings in the interest of political correctness, to avoid offending our fellow posters. You have, however, carte blanche to offend in many other ways. tongue.gif


Well said!

Posted by: Dunvegan 21st Apr 2011, 01:00am

"lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush,
Rebelious Scots to crush,
God save the King"
Why dont they sing this version at the Saxon wedding feast, a real song for all youse toraidhe fore lock tuggers.....

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 21st Apr 2011, 01:09am

Meanwhile ... Back to the Future rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 21st Apr 2011, 03:38am

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 18th Apr 2011, 09:46am) *
Well, if you disagree with somebody all of the time, you truly must be a bigot. tongue.gif


Posted by: rumcdonald 21st Apr 2011, 03:46am

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 18th Apr 2011, 09:46am) *
Well, if you disagree with somebody all of the time, you truly must be a bigot. tongue.gif

Not only a bigot....but this must be flaming hard work for you..being angry all the time.

Posted by: bilbo.s 21st Apr 2011, 08:02am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 21st Apr 2011, 06:03am) *
Not only a bigot....but this must be flaming hard work for you..being angry all the time.

Begging your pardon, ma'am - what was all that about? unsure.gif

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 21st Apr 2011, 09:01am

RumcDonald - may I ask you a personal question - of course you're not obliged to reply.?

How do you feel,Now there is overwhelming evidence that Prince Charles/Diana's 'Fairy tale Royal wedding' was a complete farce; a con on the nation? As' his' children now know this what effect do you think it must have on their charactors? Do you not think it's odd William gives the engagement ring his Father, knowing he was being dishonest, gave to his mother and he now gives to his bride to be rolleyes.gif ?


(And don't live in the past is the advice given to an anti Royalist wub.gif)

Posted by: ionnsaigh 21st Apr 2011, 09:33am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 20th Apr 2011, 04:02pm) *
Love the royals...but definitely don't fancy this silly film.


Love the film... but definitely don't fancy this silly family. biggrin.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 21st Apr 2011, 09:40am

laugh.gif

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 21st Apr 2011, 10:10am

JUst thinking - That 'Kate' knows Willie's Dad was conning Diana with the engagement ring yet accepts the same ring rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 21st Apr 2011, 10:24am

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 21st Apr 2011, 11:27am) *
JUst thinking - That 'Kate' knows Willie's Dad was conning Diana with the engagement ring yet accepts the same ring rolleyes.gif



Good gold digging stock, should fit right in with "T' Firm."

Once awe this mass hysteria and nauseating tripe simmers doon, jist wait fur the next installment of Royal scandal "Wit Katey Did in St Andrews." Butter widnea melt, aye right, my erseium.

It's enuff to drive a teetotaler tae the bottle.

Posted by: RonD 21st Apr 2011, 10:42am

QUOTE
EIIR (Queen Elizabeth II) is your Regent cool.gif

Shouldn't that be your monarch, a regent who reigns but is not the ruler usually in the minority of a the rightful ruler.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 21st Apr 2011, 11:06am

You're right Ron ... I've already had my wrist slapped for that blunder laugh.gif

Posted by: Dunvegan 21st Apr 2011, 11:51am

The "divine right of kings"; this medieval absurdity, although abolished by the"Glorious Revolution" still dies hard in the minds of those obsessed with being subjects, as opposed to being citizens, and carries all the attendant baggage of being a worshiper of mediocrity.

Posted by: Rabbie 21st Apr 2011, 01:00pm

Tomi couldnea tell Regent Street frae Princes Street, mind ye neither could ah on many a Saturady niccht.

Posted by: Rabbie 21st Apr 2011, 01:02pm

Tommy, huv you been doon to see Her Maj to pick up yer Maundy money hand oot? She has turned 85 the day, ah think!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 21st Apr 2011, 02:09pm

Jings, A knew there was a birthday this week ... I forgot, again, to send Her Maj a card - but I'll leave a message, and click Likes on Her Facebook wall. tongue.gif laugh.gif
In case you're lookin' in Ma'am, Happy Birthday darlin' biggrin.gif

Posted by: ionnsaigh 21st Apr 2011, 02:38pm

Aye happy birthday, you old dog you. ( kid on )
Awe the best,
A boy from the black stuff. laugh.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 21st Apr 2011, 02:45pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 21st Apr 2011, 04:26pm) *
Jings, A knew there was a birthday this week ... I forgot, again, to send Her Maj a card - but I'll leave a message, and click Likes on Her Facebook wall. tongue.gif laugh.gif
In case you're lookin' in Ma'am, Happy Birthday darlin' biggrin.gif

Tsk, tsk, Tomi. "Happy Birthday darlin'" - surely a severe breach of protocol. Speaking of which, it is reported that, last night on receiving the Copa del Rey, Casillas of Real Madrid hugged Juan Carlos and Sofía, before leaning on the king to climb up and show off the trophy. Big difference from UK. It reminded me that I have seen many members of the Spanish royal family attending sporting events and they seemed like real people, jumping up and down with excitement or clapping their hands in delight - a far cry from the English stuffed shirts.

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 21st Apr 2011, 03:12pm


'Kate' visits Diana's grave - no doubt organised by the 'puppet masters' - wearing the ring given to her for a sham marriage. Something obscene in that rolleyes.gif

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royal-wedding/2011/04/21/kate-middleton-and-prince-middleton-make-emotional-visit-to-princess-diana-s-grave-before-the-royal-wedding-115875-23075820/

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 21st Apr 2011, 03:16pm

Another part of the Establishment BUll......T - Cameron has created 117 peers in less than a year rolleyes.gif

'Long live this great system' - says the Tories to themselves - that always keeps us with the real power!!!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 21st Apr 2011, 03:39pm

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 21st Apr 2011, 03:29pm) *
'Kate' visits Diana's grave - no doubt organised by the 'puppet masters' - wearing the ring given to her for a sham marriage. Something obscene in that rolleyes.gif

Tommy, it's not often that I disagree with you and although I'm not entirely disagreeing with you here - in respect of a put-up Photo-op - but don't you think it might just be that Diana's No1 son might have just wanted to visit her grave with his bride-to-be and to show his mum that the ring is now being used on a non sham marriage?
Not that I believe that his mum; who's been dead and gone for so long, might have any idea about what's going on in the mortal world she left behind - but that's a different topic. wink.gif

Posted by: bilbo.s 21st Apr 2011, 03:48pm

Tomi,

Apart from all the political stuff, I hope you are right and that this will be a real marriage. I do not like to see marriages break up.

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 21st Apr 2011, 03:50pm

Well I know these Royals are none too bright,Thee, but Willie boy must know, with all the evidence widly broadcast, that his mother was 'used' to produce him - then again what would he see wrong in that; it is/was 'The way' with all his ancesters

Oh, by the way...this sucking up for a Knighthood tongue.gif Don't you think you could do better - and 'one up', A Lordship'!!! by sucking up to Cameron. He's created 117 in less than a year.
Get your wallet out for a 'Tory donation' wink.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 21st Apr 2011, 04:12pm

QUOTE (ionnsaigh @ 21st Apr 2011, 04:50am) *
Love the film... but definitely don't fancy this silly family. biggrin.gif

So you prefer fiction to reality

Posted by: rumcdonald 21st Apr 2011, 04:46pm

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 21st Apr 2011, 04:18am) *
RumcDonald - may I ask you a personal question - of course you're not obliged to reply.?

How do you feel,Now there is overwhelming evidence that Prince Charles/Diana's 'Fairy tale Royal wedding' was a complete farce; a con on the nation? As' his' children now know this what effect do you think it must have on their charactors? Do you not think it's odd William gives the engagement ring his Father, knowing he was being dishonest, gave to his mother and he now gives to his bride to be rolleyes.gif ?


(And don't live in the past is the advice given to an anti Royalist wub.gif)


I didn't see it as a "complete farce". Diana was well aware that Charles had always strong feelings for Camilla, so she didn't marry him with her eyes closed. I'm not sure what to make of the engagement ring thing, but it's their choice and not ours. Royal "insiders" say that Diana was too much like hard word, too emotional, and too young for the job she had at hand. Her tragic death made people more angry at Charles, and he had nought to do with what happened to her. William and Harry are comfortable with Camilla, so who are we to tell them what to think. Being a "royalist" doesn't stop me from criticizing them at time. Harry imbibes too much booze. Fergie was an embarrassment. etc. Queen Elizabeth must curse under her breath at times, but all in all, it's a great institution. About my "don't live in the past" comment, point taken, but bringing up old Anne Boleyn to criticize the royals now doesn't make much sense. Cheers.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 21st Apr 2011, 06:20pm

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 21st Apr 2011, 04:07pm) *
Don't you think you could do better - and 'one up', A Lordship'!!! by sucking up to Cameron.

A knight, Tommy. A man of honour. wink.gif
You wouldn't get me "Lordin'" it over my peers Tommy. tongue.gif
I wouldn't suck up to one as Almighty as yer Almighty so I'm hardly gonna suck up to the likes of Cameron. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: wee davy 21st Apr 2011, 07:06pm

QUOTE
I didn't see it as a "complete farce". Diana was well aware that Charles had always strong feelings for Camilla, so she didn't marry him with her eyes closed.

That may well be, rumc - but one thing I do know - Diana would most probably still be alive today, if Charles had been a bit less of a 'royal' - and a bit more of a man.

History (our history) is thoroughly littered with the total disregard for the feelings of young damsels.

I wish Diana's son and his wife to be, all the luck and good fortune in the world - they're going to need it. Despite all the trappings of the rich and well heeled - I wouldn't trade places for a toffee!

Posted by: Rabbie 21st Apr 2011, 09:59pm

I wid fur a penny dainty!

A wee bit of respect for oor genetically "affected" betters.

Blaws <~~~~raspberry flavoured toffee.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 22nd Apr 2011, 12:00am

QUOTE (wee davy @ 21st Apr 2011, 07:23pm) *
-( but one thing I do know) * - Diana would most probably still be alive today, if Charles had been a bit less of a 'royal' - and a bit more of a man.

* Liked that bit Davy. laugh.gif
Anyway ... apart from the conjecture IF - which we wont go into on account of how my old man used to say "If we had ham, we could have ham and eggs; If we had eggs." - ... but how can you expect the 1st in line to the throne of England; ie, the Heir, to be less Royal? rolleyes.gif
I mean, how can the man born to be king be less Royal?
That's like saying the Pope would be a bit more of a man if he was just a wee bit less Holy! tongue.gif
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Posted by: wombat 22nd Apr 2011, 12:23am

T HEE sez: but how can you expect the 1st in line to the throne of England; ie, the Heir, to be less Royal?
I mean, how can the man born to be king be less Royal?
That's like saying the Pope would be a bit more of a man if he was just a wee bit less Holy!

wink.gif control freaks the perra them ph34r.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 22nd Apr 2011, 12:46am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 21st Apr 2011, 07:17pm) *
* Liked that bit Davy. laugh.gif
Anyway ... apart from the conjecture IF - which we wont go into on account of how my old man used to say "If we had ham, we could have ham and eggs; If we had eggs." - ... but how can you expect the 1st in line to the throne of England; ie, the Heir, to be less Royal? rolleyes.gif
I mean, how can the man born to be king be less Royal?
That's like saying the Pope would be a bit more of a man if he was just a wee bit less Holy! tongue.gif
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I agree with this except for the "throne of England" bit. This term would have been fine a few hundred yrs ago, but not now. This is what annoys me about the journalists and top tv presenters here in North America. They repeatedly refer to the "Queen of England" and the "new Princess of England". Being a Scot, this is annoying, and these people should know better. It is maybe too time consuming for them to refer to royals as "Queen of Gt Britain and the United Kingdom" etc, but "Queen of Britain" would be more correct. Then again, this only brings back the old debate on here, where a lot of you Scots deny being British, which you are. Just check your passports.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 22nd Apr 2011, 01:51am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 22nd Apr 2011, 01:03am) *
I agree with this except for the "throne of England" bit. This term would have been fine a few hundred yrs ago, but not now. This is what annoys me about the journalists and top tv presenters here in North America. They repeatedly refer to the "Queen of England" and the "new Princess of England". Being a Scot, this is annoying, and these people should know better. It is maybe too time consuming for them to refer to royals as "Queen of Gt Britain and the United Kingdom" etc, but "Queen of Britain" would be more correct. Then again, this only brings back the old debate on here, where a lot of you Scots deny being British, which you are. Just check your passports.

I didn't want to upset the minority on here ... shades of wee softy tongue.gif
But I have seen a British passport with the Thistle on every page (and I want one) and I understand that this is not so unusual now.
Mine ran out last year; or the year before, but don't tell the Germans rolleyes.gif
Where do I apply for one with the Thistle?
Do you think the BCG in Düsseldorf might have a drawer full for ex-pat Scots? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dunvegan 22nd Apr 2011, 04:04am

At least the Americans had their war to rid them of genetically flawed tyranny, the Scots failed in this, but we can only hope; "our day will come"

Posted by: bilbo.s 22nd Apr 2011, 08:14am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 22nd Apr 2011, 03:03am) *
Then again, this only brings back the old debate on here, where a lot of you Scots deny being British, which you are. Just check your passports.

You should give the same advice to the English. Vey few English refer to themselves as British. They even ask if I have been back to England recently. My best friends, who are English but who lived in Scotland for 30 years, still talk about-" back in England". This is the root of the problem, not the attitude of the Scots, or Welsh for that matter.

Posted by: Jupiter 22nd Apr 2011, 09:22am

The King of Cambodia has declined his invite to the hottest gig in town.Dont fret friends,I hear Tommy Kennedy has put in a strong case to Buck House for the ticket to be sent to him instead.A worthy candidate. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ionnsaigh 22nd Apr 2011, 07:18pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 22nd Apr 2011, 02:08am) *
Where do I apply for one with the Thistle?
biggrin.gif


How many are you looking for ? I'm down at the Barra's on Sunday.

Posted by: bilbo.s 22nd Apr 2011, 07:41pm

Jeez ! Mair apostrophes ! unsure.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 22nd Apr 2011, 08:13pm

QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 22nd Apr 2011, 03:31am) *
You should give the same advice to the English. Vey few English refer to themselves as British. They even ask if I have been back to England recently. My best friends, who are English but who lived in Scotland for 30 years, still talk about-" back in England". This is the root of the problem, not the attitude of the Scots, or Welsh for that matter.


I don't have a problem with the 2 countries referring to themselves as being English, or being Scottish. I'm proud to say I'm Scottish. We are separate countries, although still British. I love Scotland and England, but it's when the royal TITLES are only classed as English, well that drives me batty. "Queen of England" is just plain wrong...whereas aunt Maud from England is fine. However, there ARE several Scots on here, that don't like to be called British and have made that plain.

Posted by: rumcdonald 22nd Apr 2011, 08:20pm

QUOTE (ionnsaigh @ 22nd Apr 2011, 02:35pm) *
How many are you looking for ? I'm down at the Barra's on Sunday.

Ha ha! Probably would get them at the Barra's.
I live in Canada and always got my new passports at the British High Commision here. Recently, for my new one, I had to apply to Washington USA...and I only got a 5 yr one. What is going on???

Posted by: Rab 22nd Apr 2011, 09:33pm

Too late, its all over!



And just in case you wanted the Abbey bit .............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kav0FEhtLug&feature=player_embedded#at=20

Posted by: Tam blair 22nd Apr 2011, 10:30pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 22nd Apr 2011, 03:08am) *
I didn't want to upset the minority on here ... shades of wee softy tongue.gif
But I have seen a British passport with the Thistle on every page (and I want one) and I understand that this is not so unusual now.
Mine ran out last year; or the year before, but don't tell the Germans rolleyes.gif
Where do I apply for one with the Thistle?
Do you think the BCG in Düsseldorf might have a drawer full for ex-pat Scots? :

Hi TeeHee try Firhill biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dunvegan 23rd Apr 2011, 12:21am

I'd like a Scottish passport with Nationality Albanach and no mention of the Sasanach entity or their Saxon rulers any where on it.

Posted by: mitchell 23rd Apr 2011, 07:12am

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 11th Apr 2011, 07:31pm) *
So none of your family liked the English either? Sad.


You would not be that guy who dresses up in a clowns suit would you?

Posted by: rumcdonald 23rd Apr 2011, 10:23pm

QUOTE (mitchell @ 23rd Apr 2011, 02:29am) *
You would not be that guy who dresses up in a clowns suit would you?


Say what????? I'm not a guy...or a circus performer.

Posted by: wombat 23rd Apr 2011, 10:51pm

Say what????? I'm not a guy...or a circus performer.

mitchell thinks yer wan o ronald mc donalds clan laugh.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 23rd Apr 2011, 11:03pm

Is it over yit, is it safe to turn the telly back aon??

Posted by: Crewsy Fixer 24th Apr 2011, 12:07am

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http://www.etoncollege.com/Home.aspx

Posted by: Chrissie 24th Apr 2011, 01:11am

Dunvegan - If you ever get that passport I'd like to know. I want one too. biggrin.gif

Posted by: glasgow lass 24th Apr 2011, 01:42am

biggrin.gif me three

Posted by: Dunvegan 24th Apr 2011, 03:49am

QUOTE (wombat @ 24th Apr 2011, 09:08am) *
Say what????? I'm not a guy...or a circus performer.

mitchell thinks yer wan o ronald mc donalds clan laugh.gif

Hang about Wom.... theres plenty o" daecent decendants o' Somerled oot there who dont wear clown soots or kid oan that they ur frae glesga....

Posted by: mitchell 24th Apr 2011, 03:56am

Why don't you type English instead of trying to talk utter rubbish? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 24th Apr 2011, 12:08pm

I’m not in favour of independence for Scotland – tho’ I was a few decades ago (Mind with the lot of ‘special people’ back in control I’m beginning to think that way again) I think all regions of small countries should unite –and they have, and in time, may be a long time Europe will unite)
Have you ever considered religion has inhibited Scottish people seeking independence?
With their sectarianism they joined the English Establishment condoning the treatment of Catholics in N.Ireland – maybe not surprising as the Scots ‘planted ‘there by Cromwell started it all – Without that they may have joined the natives there to seek independence from Westminster. Both regions have always been treated as 2nd class partners –even the proddys in Ireland

Odd that Germany that created Proddys never had a serious problem with Catholics in modern times I remember tho’ there was surprise when in the post war years ‘Adenuar’ (Can’t spell it) a Catholic was made President.

Posted by: JBG 24th Apr 2011, 05:01pm

QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 22nd Apr 2011, 05:21am) *
At least the Americans had their war to rid them of genetically flawed tyranny, the Scots failed in this, but we can only hope; "our day will come"

I am an American and can speak to this.

We did shake the "tyranny". We also suffered for not having a holder of reserve powers separate from the person exercising "prime ministerial" functions on numerous occasions. The most recent and notable situation was of course Richard Nixon, who by January 1973 was hobbled by the fallout from the June 1972 Watergate burglary and limped along until August 1974, when he gave in and resigned on the eve of being dispatched.

Earlier non-functioning Presidents included Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, and James Buchanan. Their collective eleven years of non-feasance, from 1850 to 1861 spelled the doom of the Union and a bloody civil war. Woodrow Wilson served as "President" through his wife for about two (2) years after being felled by a stroke.

I believe we would have been better off with a Canadian or Australian-type solution.

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 24th Apr 2011, 05:18pm

It's a great Irony, JBG - very sad really - that America sowed the first seeds of democracy for the common man - 'all men are Equal......' we'll have none of this Royal bulls.....t, Titles etc;- making the Crowned heads of Europe shake with fear - that so many Americans now 'fawn' over our Royalty.
Another great Irony up untill the 2nd WW Americans enjoyed/had greater social democracy/better qaqulity of life than any Euro country - Europeans were in awe of America - all wanted to get there. Not now Europeans have greater social democracy - even UK, as I've posted before, even Fox news reported even Brits have a better quality than Americans

Posted by: auldbutcher 24th Apr 2011, 06:20pm

My god a Scottish passport never had wan i toured places as a wee jock sodger as i used tae tell silly engugerlanders who called me jock yep son thats me and they evaded a smack depending on there tone o voice.

Gesga my adopted city disnae want a street party thank puck ,
troops this wedding is goin intae overdrive ,noo here a funny thing her maj an the Greek ponce just met wee kats parents they gied then an audience, stiff me dead who are these embalmed people dookie an lizzie ahn no sure there the same people just replicas tae keep prinz chic fer ending the hoose o windsor ..

SO in real life my wee girl is goin oot wie a millionaires son fer around a couple years we hae never met them or them us ,we hear there gonna be ah big doo jasus there gonna tie the knot noo troops butch s in his early 40's he has never been introduced tae these people, wife an i are invited tae a wee get the gether ass exits wie fur coats an but knickers swaning aboot butch has a laugh tae himsel as he weighs up the phony's trying tae ootdae each other ,daddypoos takes the butch aside ses my man can you see my gel is way above yer social standing and would only mar my sons chances in life would you except this envelope containing 50 grand an get yer girl to abort her interests butch ses lets go some where quiet stiffins the punt grabs the moneys .

Yep its only make believe sumpkin like the royal palace keech we have endured fer months noo i see a stupid wee girl already unner the windsor mafia why on else would she ever starve her sel tae death ,is it cos this guys heed is getting mair like a billiard ball laugh.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: rumcdonald 24th Apr 2011, 07:39pm

QUOTE (wombat @ 23rd Apr 2011, 06:08pm) *
Say what????? I'm not a guy...or a circus performer.

mitchell thinks yer wan o ronald mc donalds clan laugh.gif

Ha ha! Now I understand. McDonald is my middle name, but nothing to do with "burgers n chips".

Posted by: rumcdonald 24th Apr 2011, 07:56pm

QUOTE (mitchell @ 23rd Apr 2011, 11:13pm) *
Why don't you type English instead of trying to talk utter rubbish? rolleyes.gif

I've told them the same thing, but they just wont listen. I've tried typing in a broad Glasgow accent but just can't do it.....mind you, I never had that really broad "Glesga" accent. Just a wee Glasgow girl who used "down" instead of "doon".....I'll likely be crucified for that now.

Posted by: wombat 24th Apr 2011, 11:17pm

auldbutch yir priceless LMFAO laugh.gif dookie ra stookie biggrin.gif

Posted by: benny 24th Apr 2011, 11:35pm

QUOTE (rumcdonald @ 24th Apr 2011, 09:13pm) *
I've told them the same thing, but they just wont listen. I've tried typing in a broad Glasgow accent but just can't do it.....mind you, I never had that really broad "Glesga" accent. Just a wee Glasgow girl who used "down" instead of "doon".....I'll likely be crucified for that now.

Why should you be crucified for saying "down" instead of "doon"? A lot of Scots speak English that's indistinguishable from English English, apart from the accent. I tend to write in Glesga because that's the way I normally speak, and this is a Glesga board, but have no problem with people writing in what they see as English. Just don't tell me not to write in Glesga if I feel like it.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 25th Apr 2011, 12:38am

QUOTE (benny @ 24th Apr 2011, 11:52pm) *
and this is a Glesga board, but have no problem with people writing in what they see as English.

Zat gets me aff ze hook. tongue.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: wombat 25th Apr 2011, 12:43am

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Posted by: Dunvegan 25th Apr 2011, 12:57am

QUOTE (wombat @ 25th Apr 2011, 11:00am) *
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Us yins wha kin talk richt words dinna ned tae buy intae yae yins Wom!!!!! tongue.gif

Posted by: wombat 25th Apr 2011, 12:59am

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Posted by: Dunvegan 25th Apr 2011, 02:57am

QUOTE (wombat @ 25th Apr 2011, 11:16am) *
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Fair dinkum Wom theres a few coots an wowsers out there wi' to many roos loose in the top paddock tongue.gif

Posted by: wellfield 25th Apr 2011, 04:39am

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 24th Apr 2011, 10:35am) *
It's a great Irony, JBG - very sad really - that America sowed the first seeds of democracy for the common man - 'all men are Equal......' we'll have none of this Royal bulls.....t, Titles etc;- making the Crowned heads of Europe shake with fear - that so many Americans now 'fawn' over our Royalty.
Another great Irony up untill the 2nd WW Americans enjoyed/had greater social democracy/better qaqulity of life than any Euro country - Europeans were in awe of America - all wanted to get there. Not now Europeans have greater social democracy - even UK, as I've posted before, even Fox news reported even Brits have a better quality than Americans

FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!!!Fox doesnt give news!!!...Only their political opinion!.....and the word "SOCIAL democracy" is a word only whispered by some in THIS DEMOCRACY

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 25th Apr 2011, 10:39am

What do you expect Wellfield, it's owned by Murdoch!!!
Seriously tho' us oldies, the pre-war generation, were in awe of America; of course much of that was down to Hollywood.
Yes, Socialism is a dirty word in U.S.
It's 9 years since I lasted visted U.S. - New York, and I was surprised how little Americans know how Western Euro countries have advanced with Social democracry - of course Fox news keeps telling Americans we're all Commies.!!!!

As Brits used to be, the average American is 'Isolated' from the world - bombarded, again as Brits were, with only their own propoganda of the world.
A couple of years ago I re-visted, with my eldest Grand daughter the London tourist sights - 50/60/70/s you would always find hordes of Americans - similar on the continent tourist sights.

Not now - what few you see are eldery retired couples.
Asians have replaced 'The American tourists' in Europe - hordes of them now

Posted by: Dunvegan 25th Apr 2011, 11:09am

My relatives in Canada just arrived back this week from California, long a bastion of liberalism as far as live and let live was concerned. My sister in law told me of the suffering of the common American Joe in California, once the fifth richest "country" in the world, and his family. She was perplexed at the right wing political attitude sweeping America and the religious excess of the right that will truck no argument with the "justness' of their cause. This is a sad thing to see in the land of the free. My relatives are in no way "lefties" and have no worries about money, but they were quite shaken by the disparity of affluence between the country clubs of Palm Beach and the rest of the country they passed through.

Posted by: rumcdonald 25th Apr 2011, 03:18pm

QUOTE (Dunvegan @ 24th Apr 2011, 08:14pm) *
Us yins wha kin talk richt words dinna ned tae buy intae yae yins Wom!!!!! tongue.gif

Yes, but this doesn't sound like Glasgow..broad or otherwise. You sound like someone from "Oor Wullie" or the "Broons" both of which I love.

Posted by: wellfield 25th Apr 2011, 05:21pm

QUOTE (Tommy Kennedy @ 25th Apr 2011, 03:56am) *
What do you expect Wellfield, it's owned by Murdoch!!!
Seriously tho' us oldies, the pre-war generation, were in awe of America; of course much of that was down to Hollywood.
Yes, Socialism is a dirty word in U.S.
It's 9 years since I lasted visted U.S. - New York, and I was surprised how little Americans know how Western Euro countries have advanced with Social democracry - of course Fox news keeps telling Americans we're all Commies.!!!!

As Brits used to be, the average American is 'Isolated' from the world - bombarded, again as Brits were, with only their own propoganda of the world.
A couple of years ago I re-visted, with my eldest Grand daughter the London tourist sights - 50/60/70/s you would always find hordes of Americans - similar on the continent tourist sights.

Not now - what few you see are eldery retired couples.
Asians have replaced 'The American tourists' in Europe - hordes of them now

You're right Tommy....it galls me that the majority of Americans know little of the doings of the rest of the world

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 26th Apr 2011, 12:09am

know little of the doings of the rest of the world -
Maybe the 'internet will change their 'views' soon, Wellfield

What had the greatest impact in the U.K was the start of 'package holidays' abroad from the mid 60s, even for the working class. Then the E.U. - allowing thousands of youngsters to work/backpack all over Europe, college/uni breaks. My son/daughter did so and my 2 eldest G/kids also. My eldest g/son went working in Oz for year before starting Uni here

The younger generation here are not anti- foriengers as my generation were and encouraged by the State to be so!


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 26th Apr 2011, 12:12am

You been at the Brussel Sprouts again Tommy? laugh.gif