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post 15th Oct 2017, 08:46pm
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QUOTE (john.mcn @ 15th Oct 2017, 09:28pm) *
You need to learn to use the quote feature, it's hard enough reading your ramblings without you mixing them all up


What's the point, you never read them anyway. yes.gif
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post 18th Oct 2017, 06:04pm
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I wonder if Ruth will yellow card Mr Ross for failing to do his day job?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scot...litics-41660040

I think we all know the answer to that. yes.gif
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post 18th Oct 2017, 06:37pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 18th Oct 2017, 08:04pm) *
I wonder if Ruth will yellow card Mr Ross for failing to do his day job?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scot...litics-41660040

I think we all know the answer to that. yes.gif



Mrs May replied that Mr Ross's constituents would be pleased to have a Conservative MP, saying that "the Scottish Conservative members are doing more for the interests of Scotland in this parliament than the Scottish Nationalists have ever done."


I wonder whether Mrs May, or, for that matter anyone else,
would care to elaborate on that claim. Ye couldnae mak it up! wacko.gif


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post 20th Oct 2017, 09:38am
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QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 18th Oct 2017, 07:37pm) *
Mrs May replied that Mr Ross's constituents would be pleased to have a Conservative MP, saying that "the Scottish Conservative members are doing more for the interests of Scotland in this parliament than the Scottish Nationalists have ever done."


I wonder whether Mrs May, or, for that matter anyone else,
would care to elaborate on that claim. Ye couldnae mak it up! wacko.gif



It's right up there with "red white & blue Brexit. yes.gif
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post 21st Oct 2017, 02:46pm
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Joan McAlpine seems to say some quite mad things at times and doesn't seem to understand that despite there being devolution the UK is a single market, one which means myself or any other person living here can freely move, work and shop in any other part of the UK, unlike the other single market, the EU, there are no restrictions.

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Senior SNP MSP Joan McAlpine accused of leaving reality after claiming UK single market doesn't exist


A SENIOR Nationalist MSP has been accused of parting company with reality after claiming there is no such thing as the UK single market.

Joan McAlpine, convener of Holyrood’s European Committee, stunned an event at the Scottish Parliament’s Festival of Politics by saying it was “a bit of a nonsense”.

The single market refers to the border-free movement of goods, capital, people and services inside the UK - an arrangement Scottish independence might end, Unionists warn.

However Ms McAlpine, who was chairing a discussion about Brexit, appeared to think devolution meant the UK had already lost its frictionless economy.

The South of Scotland MSP was immediately corrected by two of her panelists.

Ms McAlpine said: “This talk of the UK single market, it’s a bit of a nonsense when you think that under the devolved settlement we already have different approaches to things.

“Health, for example, and lots of other areas as well where we take a different approach.

“So we don’t really have a UK single market.”

Professor Nicola McEwen, Associate Director of the Centre for Constitutional Change at Edinburgh University, promptly told her: “Yes, we do.”

Alan Page, Professor of Public Law at the University of Dundee, then explained: “Buying and selling goods, moving job, capital - all of these things move freely within the United Kingdom to the extent that we don’t even think about it.

“We live in an economic and monetary union. We do have, no question, a single market in which goods, people, capital move freely within the UK.”

Last year Ms McAlpine wrote the foreword to a paper commissioned by her own committee which referred to the UK single market.

It said: "The devolution settlement, like the European Union, is based on a ‘single market’ in goods, persons, services and capital."

A spokesman for the Scottish Tories said: “It appears Joan McAlpine has decided to temporarily leave the reality-based community. Of course we have a UK market - just ask anyone who has popped across the border from Carlisle to Gretna to do some shopping.

“Given Ms McAlpine is a South of Scotland MSP, you’d think she’d be the first to understand this. It’s therefore extremely odd she doesn’t.”

The UK single market is key to the main Brexit legislation and the SNP’s claim that it is a Westminster “power grab”.

The EU (Withdrawal) Bill, as drafted, would see all powers repatriated from the EU at Brexit go to Westminster, even those in devolved areas such as fishing and farming.

The SNP says this breaches the fundamental principle of the devolution settlement, that powers not specifically reserved to Westminster belong at Holyrood by default.

The UK government says some powers will be forwarded to the devolved legislatures, but others must stay in UK-wide “common frameworks” to preserve the UK single market.

The goal is to avoid the different legislatures creating internal barriers to trade, for example by Holyrood insisting on different animal feed standards to England.

The UK and SNP governments are currently discussing which repatriated devolved powers should go to Holyrood and when, and which go into common frameworks.

The “Brexit - Where Now?” event also heard the reluctance to halt Brexit had created a “huge hole” in Scottish politics, as the wishes of most voters were being overruled.

Dr Kirsty Hughes, director of the Scottish Centre on European Relations, said there was a “democratic gap” and predicted either hard Brexit, no deal or no Brexit, but not a soft Brexit.

She said: “The complete political and economic crisis we would get as we plunge convincingly towards no deal is probably our best chance of actually forcing Labour to a shift, forcing the SNP to speak out and turning this around."


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post 21st Oct 2017, 03:02pm
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The tail (the bit near the *rse) is most definitely wagging the dog. Many people voted for the Greens as their second vote simply because they support Indy, now that they have this wee bit of power they are going to make sure we are all affected. We will all be poorer if they achieve their goals. Someone ought to tell them that driving at 20mph uses more fuel than at 30mph.

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Scottish Greens list demands for budget support


The Scottish Green Party co-convener has set out a list of demands that he said the SNP must meet before his party will support its budget next year.
Speaking at the party's autumn conference in Edinburgh, Patrick Harvie called for tax rises for higher earners and tax cuts for lower earners.
He also demanded a fully-funded, above inflation public sector pay increase.
The SNP is a minority government and needs support from other parties to pass legislation and its annual budget.
The Greens are the fourth-largest party at Holyrood, with six MSPs, but the pro-independence party often hold the balance of power in the parliament.
Speaking at Edinburgh Napier University, Mr Harvie told party members that tax reform was the "only way" the SNP government could expect Green support for the 2018-19 budget.
Public sector pay
The MSP reiterated his call for the SNP to drop its policy of cutting tax for the aviation industry and wealthy frequent fliers.
He said: "Don't just pause ADT [Airport Departure Tax] cuts. Cancel them. The SNP has no case environmentally, socially, economically.
"Even in simple transport terms there are bigger priorities. ADT cuts are now on hold. It's time to scrap the policy altogether.
"We also need to see public sector pay rise above inflation and funded because merely scrapping the cap without providing the resources will change nothing, we need local authorities funded to restore lost value, and we need investment in low carbon infrastructure to hit 70% by the end of this parliament."
Mr Harvie added: "We can't do any of that without tax reform. Let's cut tax for low earners, and reduce inequality. Greens are clearly leading the change on tax policy.
"We have a very clear message for the finance secretary. This is the only way you'll get Green support for the budget."
Mr Harvie told party members that the list of Green achievements at Holyrood is "long and getting longer".
'Positive agenda'
He added: "We're leading the change on issues from air pollution to rent control, and from the fracking ban to the announcement of a publicly-owned energy company and it's clear that the positive Green agenda we've been pushing for years is making real progress.
"With support growing for Green campaigns like our bills to protect children from violence and to make 20mph speed limits the norm, and for core Green ideas like universal basic income and Land Value Tax, it's clear that we have much more progress ahead."
The two-day conference will also hear from Sweden's deputy finance minister, Per Bolund, and Green MLA Clare Bailey, who has been leading the campaign to change Northern Ireland's restrictive abortion laws.


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post 23rd Oct 2017, 10:41am
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"How Westminster plundered the North Sea and sold out past and future generations of Scots"

An interesting article from Professor Alex Russell a petroleum industry expert in today's National but nothing really new as we all knew this from the McCrone report and even the late Denis Healey himself eventually admitted that his then Labour Government played down the value of Scotland’s oil reserves in the 1970s because of the threat of Scottish independence.

http://www.thenational.scot/news/15612516....tions_of_Scots/
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post 25th Oct 2017, 10:58pm
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With councils expecting a budget cut and preparing for redundancies, cutting services and further tax rises I thought the SG are going to get a lot of stick but now we see that the Fire service is facing 'challenges' and stations face the threat of closure, maybe its all part of a plan and Sturgeon has already ordered her violin wink.gif



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Fire stations to close, says leaked document

Fire stations are to be closed and firefighter numbers cut, according to documents seen by the BBC.
Papers circulated to senior Scottish Fire and Recue Service management said the current model could not last beyond the end of the financial year.
The Fire Brigades Union Scotland told the BBC that dozens of fire engines were already unusable because there were not enough crews to take them out.
In response, Scotland's fire chief said the service needed to be "transformed".
Alasdair Hay was responding after management documents leaked to the BBC talked of reducing urban fire stations and cutting firefighter numbers.
Mr Hay said rural areas were having a serious problem recruiting on-call "retained" firefighters.
But he said there could be a case for part-time on-call firefighters to work out of urban fire stations.
About two-thirds of Scotland's 356 fire stations are in rural areas and crewed by retained duty system (RDS) staff.
Many of these fire crews are unavailable during the day because they have other jobs.

Mr Hay said this had led to between 60 and 100 fire appliances sitting idle each day as they did not have the four crew members required to operate them.
The Fire Brigades Union Scotland said the same problem also happened in five or six full-time fire stations each day.
Mr Hay said the aim was to look at the "collective resource" across the country and work out the best balance of full-time firefighters and on-call retained crews.
The fire chief said it might be possible for urban fire stations to adopt the "retained" model of on-call fire crews at certain times - and for rural stations to have some full-time staff to carry out "vital preventative" work.
He said: "On-call systems are under pressure. That tells me that model is unsustainable. We need to do something."
Mr Hay said the world had changed since the 1940s, when current model was introduced.
He told BBC Scotland the fire service needed a "planned and safe" change to meet the risks and demands of the 21st Century.
The fire chief also said firefighters would also be asked to take on a much wider role in terms of tackling terrorism and providing emergency medical care.
He said that if firefighters were prepared to "redesign" their roles and "take on additional skills" then they would be in line for a better pay rise.
The fire service said it planned to consult the public on the changes in the new year.
Fire service numbers
There were 7,834 staff employed by Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (SFRS) at 31 March 2017. This figure is 1% lower than in 2016
There are 700 fewer firefighters than 2013 when the fire service was merged
The number of fire stations in Scotland on 31 March 2017 was unchanged from 2016 at 356 stations
Two-thirds of all fire stations (240) are primarily RDS (retained duty system). These are mainly rural stations crewed by on-call, part-time fire officers
21% (74 stations) are full-time
12% (42 stations) are volunteer crewed
Scotland's eight regional fire services were merged into a single service almost five years ago.
Since April 2013, the SFRS, which has a budget of about £260m, has lost more than 700 firefighters and been under pressure to keep costs down.
Audit Scotland warned two years ago of a potential funding gap.
An internal fire service management document, seen by the BBC, states: "The Scottish Fire Service is operating against a backdrop of both significantly changing risks and the greatest financial challenges seen in decades."
It said the service has to "re-balance" firefighter numbers and review its "station footprint".
The document briefs SFRS managers on how to prepare staff for discussions on change.
"Staying as we are is simply not an option," it said.
Another management document, prepared as a staff Q&A, said no fire stations had yet been identified for closure.
But it said they would be "predominantly in large urban locations - where certain stations have low call-outs, attend large numbers of false alarms and have a high concentration of surrounding stations, personnel and equipment".
The document goes on to talk about "more effective deployment of resources in urban areas where we have an historically high concentration of stations".
The Fire Brigades Union Scotland's Chris McGlone said: "I think what the documents show is that there are significant changes coming."
He added: "Routinely at the moment the fire service is required to remove fire engines from operational availability and that is because at the moment we don't have enough firefighters.
"In the whole-time service we think it is up to six on any given day - in the retained service it is 50, 60, 70 at times."
Mr McGlone said the Retained Duty System was no longer working because many of the local people who provided the system were working away during the day.
He said: "We are always concerned that if you remove the operational firefighters and fire appliances not as a direct response to a change in risk but for a financial reason - we will see a consequence."
Holyrood debate
In response to the BBC story, Scottish Labour MSP Claire Baker raised an urgent question in the Scottish Parliament asking for assurances that frontline services would be protected.
Community Safety Minister Annabelle Ewing told MSPs there had been no compulsory redundancies and no fire station closures since the SFRS was formed in 2013.
She said: "The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service is currently exploring how it should develop to meet the new and emerging risks facing our communities, including how transformation of service delivery could see it do more for the people of Scotland.
"No decisions have been made on what that transformation would look like and the transformation process will involve liaison and discussion with staff, partners and the public."
The minister said the Scottish government had increased the overall operational budget for the SFRS this year by £21.7m and discussions were ongoing over next year's budget.
Ms Baker said it was an "insult to firefighters" to refuse to acknowledge that job numbers had been cut.
She said: "This transformation is being forced through due to a squeeze on resources rather than an evaluation of risk and the buck stops with the justice team."


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"As we move into Sunday it will feel much cooler with temperatures plummeting as low as -3C and -4C in Scotland and northern parts of the UK.

Perhaps some of the Unionists on here can explain how if we're "all the same country" as they claim then how is the "northern parts" barely halfway up the country? unsure.gif

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-we...8YYS?li=BBoPWjQ

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Well, I have to say it is not as cold this lovely Sunday morning as I thought it would be.

I say, bring it on, and throw in some heavy snow too - I love this time of year - not a summer person at all, never have been.

My relatives down in the south-east of England often get hot summers, certainly they get temperatures throughout the summer months higher than we do - that suits me fine.


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post 29th Oct 2017, 10:21am
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Love it, the new Indyref2 excuse is because of the weatherman sign_lol.gif


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clap.gif you couldny beat it wi a big stick laugh.gif


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Love it, the new Indyref2 excuse is because of the weatherman sign_lol.gif



I must have missed that excuse, dissapointed that no unionist could answer my question though. yes.gif
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LOL Jagz you are asking a stupid question about what someone at the Met office said, either they were misquoted or it was a mistake. For all you or anyone else knows they meant other parts of northern UK like North England or Northern Ireland but hey it's yet another reason to get your knickers in a twist and post on the Independence thread about another perceived injustice, next you'll have your measuring tape out when the weather map come on rolleyes.gif

Were you one of the Jagz fans waving a Saltire(with writing on it, YES banner?) and a Catalan flag who got ejected from Ibrox the other day biggrin.gif



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LOL Jagz you are asking a stupid question about what someone at the Met office said, either they were misquoted or it was a mistake. For all you or anyone else knows they meant other parts of northern UK like North England or Northern Ireland but hey it's yet another reason to get your knickers in a twist and post on the Independence thread about another perceived injustice, next you'll have your measuring tape out when the weather map come on rolleyes.gif

Were you one of the Jagz fans waving a Saltire(with writing on it, YES banner?) and a Catalan flag who got ejected from Ibrox the other day biggrin.gif



Merely asking a simple (not stupid) question John.

If they meant northern England they should have said so.

No, i don't go to Ibrox or Celtic Park John.
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