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> Glasgow Schools Falling Further Behind, Gap in achievement rates continues to widen
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post 10th Oct 2010, 09:29am
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Obviously Glasgow Schools are now paying the penalty for being part of a system that allows the ranking of students and schools according to their achievements in a range of external tests set by non-academics who, never in their sheltered lives, have been inside a classroom let alone tried to teach a class of students.

Kids are kids and all have varying levels of ability, but; in my experience as a teacher of thirty-five years, albeit in NSW, Australia; the vast majority of kids are so proud of the fact that they always strive to achieve at the best of their ability levels.

Some students achieve great things, others not so. But how sad it is that the many great and positive achievements of all students are consistently being downgraded by the results of those nefarious 'public testing systems' designed not to show competency in schools, but designed by non-academics within the Public Service to justify their own existences.

If you really are worried about the results discussed in this forum, ask yourself this question:

"Who has more to offer the future of your nation ?"

Is it the non-academic boffins within the various education departments, or is it those wonderful students working so hard to achieve to the best of their abilities within an education that is set out by the former ?

Give me kids with the guts to have a go, anytime !

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post 13th Oct 2010, 11:40am
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Blame the Parents? To a certain extent. The real issue though is the circle of deprivation. People with poor parenting skills are most certainly the product of their own Parents lack of expertise in parenting. So it goes on.... Poverty is the over-riding factor. Poverty erodes self-esteem, demotivates and raises stress levels. We need to deal with the poverty divide first and foremost. In any life safety and security needs come first. They are a priority over any other needs. When our basic needs are met (such as the need for warmth, food, shelter, security, belonging and feeling loved) then we can move towards self actualisation (achievement).
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post 17th Oct 2010, 05:53pm
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My children could read and count before going to school . I taught them at home . I didnt send them to nursery . One of their primary teachers actually commented on the fact that they done better than some nursery taught children. Some of the work they do now i do not have a clue about ,but i feel that basic education at a young age is vital ,even pre school age. I feel that you have to make learning interesting in order to catch their imagination ,if its boring a lot of kids dont want to know.
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post 18th Oct 2010, 12:36am
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One can't help but think of all the money that is wasted by the councils in unecessary departments and positions. Money that could be better used in education. A company I know has recently moved some equipment for a government department. In fact they have moved the same equipment three times in the past two years, at a cost to the tax payer. This is the sort of nonsense that should be stamped out. It is a well known fact that councils place orders for equipment before the end of the budget year because if they don't use the budget they may not get it the following year. Duh, hello council workers you pay for it out of your taxes as well.

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Because they would have nothing to do in the afternoon.


Sad, but true.
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post 18th Oct 2010, 09:25pm
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Jazzsaxman, it's obvious that you are not a Civil Servant or worked in the Social Security or would not make such a stupid statement. tongue.gif


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Jazzsaxman
post 18th Oct 2010, 10:04pm
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Heather

To which part of my statement do you refer?

If it is the joke at the end then that is what it was, a joke, which, by the way, was told to me by someone who works for the civil service. Of course not all civil servants can laugh at themselves as they are too brainwashed by the government bullshit, or perhaps they just have their heads too far up their own backsides.

If you you refer to the part about the budgets etc, then I am sorry to say that is not a joke.

If that is what you are upset about then I can understand as it is quite infuriating. A bit like the expenses scandal.

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post 12th May 2011, 05:30pm
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QUOTE (Jazzsaxman @ 3rd Oct 2010, 05:42pm) *
This is one reasom why I am glad I live in East Renfrewshire. Glasgow should stop avoiding thier responsibility by trying all sorts of tricks to send thier children to our schools. We don't want our schools dragged down.

I have to say that if you were educated in East Renfrewshire you are a very poor example of what their education system can produce. As a Glasgow parent may I take the liberty of correcting your spelling of reasom (to reason) and thier (to their) which you have made an error with twice. These are both spelling mistakes which I can assure you my Glasgow educated daughters would never make!!

I can also assure you that there are many parents who are very happy with their children being educated within the city boundaries and have no intention at all of applying for a place within your education system - thereby leaving your precious darlings plenty of school places.
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glasgow lass
post 12th May 2011, 09:00pm
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smile.gif No disrespect meant but nitpicking at another posters simple spelling errors is not cool.
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post 12th May 2011, 10:26pm
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Bellamo, welcome to the boards.Can I point out to you that there is much discussion goes on here,some interesting,some less so,some agreement,much disagreement but one thing we try to keep off limits is a fellow posters spelling,grammar and use of language as long as he/she gets their point across.Thats the way it goes.Hope you enjoy and take the point.Joop rolleyes.gif
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post 12th May 2011, 11:57pm
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Sorry if my minor spelling errors upset you Bellamoe. It is just that I type fast and don't proof read. Sometimes there are small errors, but what the heck, none of us are perfect now are we? Next time I'll be sure to proof read.
Incidentally, I was educated in Glasgow. I worked my way up and moved to get a better education for my kids.
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glasgow lass
post 13th May 2011, 12:06am
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Dont wurry, a still get the i before the e thingy mixed up biggrin.gif
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post 13th May 2011, 12:10am
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LOL Thanks Glasgow Lass. It thats i before the e except after c, which obviously I was sticking to.
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glasgow lass
post 13th May 2011, 12:19am
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Aye thats the wan,,, a just had a wee look at my history and a have claimed not to be the wurlds best speller.I had one really hurtful remark from a poster about my spelling errors so a know how it feels ,,, biggrin.gif
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post 13th May 2011, 01:03am
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My friends' daughter bought me 2 brilliant books for xmas. They are called

i before e (except after c) old-school ways to remember stuff by Judy Parkinson

HOMEWORK FOR GROWN-UPS EVERYTHING YOU LEARNT AT SCHOOL AND PROMPTLY FORGOT by E. Foley & B Coates

The titles are written exactly as I've typed them and they are both absolutely brilliant.

She bought them as a bit of a joke as I had been telling her about trying to explain the "i before e" rule to her son which he which he promptly went on to dispute by giving me a couple of the exceptions to the rule. biggrin.gif Mary

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post 13th May 2011, 12:10pm
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School Dr asked me one time, have you ever had trouble with appendicitis? Lass. Only when a try to spell it. biggrin.gif
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