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Posted by: GG 30th Sep 2011, 06:58am
Evidence that the recession is biting into Glasgow's squeezed middle classes emerged today after it was revealed that well-heeled shoppers in some of Glasgow's most affluent areas have been helping themselves to low-price items at city Tesco stores.
Tesco branches in affluent areas of the city, including Merchant City and Byres Road, have had to resort to putting electronic security tags on items such as bacon (£2) and mince (£2.50) after thefts of some meat products reached epidemic proportions. Such tagging measures have previously been reserved for higher-value and luxury items such as DVDs and televisions.
Liberal Democrat councillor for Hillhead, Ken Elder, whose party is part of the UK coalition government imposing deep cuts, said:
A Tesco spokesman said:
One local customer responded with dismay, saying:
Meanwhile, just a few miles away in the Tesco store in the poorest constituency in the UK, Glasgow North East, the bacon remains tag-free ... for the time being!
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GG.
Posted by: Strangelove 30th Sep 2011, 07:31am
Yeesh! The brand of bacon I prefer goes for about £4.49, here in Florida. That is for a pound, though, which is about 453g. Still, That's pretty extreme to tag meat to prevent folks from nicking some of it. Tesco must be loosing a fair quantity of it to do this.
Posted by: RedSkywalker 30th Sep 2011, 08:31am
I object to your use of the word "just" in the polling question - what they steal the meat for isn't the issue - theft is theft!
[GG edit: agreed, I have now removed that word!]
Posted by: Melody 30th Sep 2011, 08:38am
Oh ah love it Martin. 
The thought that those who can afford to live in the West End are the biggest villains. Mind you I must admit if I had no food for my children I think I would steal food too. Mibbe the West Enders should move to a less expensive area like the East End where the best people stay and the food may be slightly cheaper for them. Oh ye've really cheered me up this morning.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 30th Sep 2011, 08:45am
I pay ¤1.90 for pack of 8 rashers (125g) which works out at more than thrice the price of cat food.
Meow?
Sorry Big Maus but times are hard hen. 
I remember a guy in the sixties in Clydebridge Steelworks, we called him Wullie Duck because of the odd way he walked, who used to strip the lean out of the bacon that the guys would throw down into the cat's dish (when he thought no one was watchin')
A big painted sign was put up above the cat's dish ...
Guess the report is nothin' new.
Posted by: *bette* 30th Sep 2011, 08:50am
Morning folks, thought for today, I have recently been astonished at the lack of customer care at tescos, the do not give a damm about loyalty, I will never shop there again as head office also did not give a fig. Morrisons are the height of customer care.
Posted by: bilbo.s 30th Sep 2011, 08:52am
It´s April 1st. right ? Or has the Daily Sport re-surfaced ?
Posted by: Springfield 30th Sep 2011, 09:01am
Definitely agree with RedSkyWalker ... theft is theft..
Back in the"good old days" - late 60s early 70s, Byres Road was one of my favourite hangouts.... in particular the Rock (a café on the road up to the University), but I remember that a lot of the flats in the zone were inhabited by students (definitely not an category with great purchasing power) ... is that no longer the case?
I also remember the Rubiyat (spelling's probably wrong) and a couple of great Pakistani restaurants (I don't know what I'd give for a decent curry!!).
Sweet memories.
Posted by: Jupiter 30th Sep 2011, 09:16am
There is no doubt in my opinion that the west end and in paticular the Byres Road was the place to be in the 60s and 70s.As youngsters my friends and I would frequent the various bars,the Ruby,The Byre,The Curlers,The Aragon at weekends and inevitably end up at some party in a students or more often a nurses flat in the vicinity.The place was just the cool place to be in Glasgow.Great.
Posted by: droschke7 30th Sep 2011, 09:44am
theft is indeed theft, whether it's a packet of bacon or a rolls royce the principle is the same. As a disabled ex serviceman trying to survive on the pittance I get from the DWP, I have never stolen or "Shop lifted" anything.
Posted by: kenb 30th Sep 2011, 09:46am
the nurses flats they were the days say no more 
byers rd 1976 these girls are now hosp managers etc "i am saying nuffing"
great days and nights , wots this to do with bacon !!!!! 
Posted by: wee davy 30th Sep 2011, 10:01am
search me, kenb! (go on, a dare ye lol) ye'll only find 2 buttons, a three day auld hankie, and an extra strong trebor mint
PS they dont steal bacon in the East End, because the traders are too frightened tae put any oan the shelves! MURDER POLIS! (sorry to my long lost east end relations )
Posted by: Guest 30th Sep 2011, 10:09am
The two most popular items that people, usually drug addicts, would steal was bacon and coffee. The reason for this is because it is easy to conceal and they can sell it on easily. This is not evidence that the middle class is stealing to feed their families.
Posted by: Jupiter 30th Sep 2011, 10:19am
Kenb,many of the nurses were from the Highlands and usually had a bit of cash so it was always Bacon,eggs and tattie scones in the morning.
Posted by: *greta* 30th Sep 2011, 10:24am
Hi, whilst I do agree with the fact that theft is theft and sympathize (particularly with the ex serviceman) .Tesco and other stores are making huge amounts of profit and should plough some of these back into the community, with cheaper prices. And I dont mean their value items which can be very poor and not that much cheaper in some cases. I have no sympathy for them at all. I do know people on the breadline and their pensions or allowances in no way keep up with inflation. Maybe we should all look at a fairer answer on this side of the argument, I know some people are finding it hard to survive, never mind pay inflated prices for essential food. While supermarkets are rubbing their hands with their greedy profits. P.S. I have never stolen anything and have worked hard all of my life but I do feel compassion for those poorer off than myself not for the supermarket giants who along with the government force some (not all ) into this end.
Posted by: amclpreston 30th Sep 2011, 10:49am
The poll...
If someone is stealing to feed their kids, I have no problem with that.
Tesco make squillions in profit, their workers are hardly paid a kings ransom, and the shareholder are rewarded handsomely.
I noticed on the poll, that 2/3rds said that stealing food to feed your children is unacceptable. Perhaps they are ones still with jobs, and they are .... all right Jack.
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 30th Sep 2011, 11:09am
Not in my book, I'm afraid. They handled our complaint very badly, and as a result, we stopped buying from them. It won't be enough to damage their annual profits, but as a result of the poor response to a customer complaint, they've lost around £20,000 of our custom in the years since then, which Sainsbury's gained.
Others, I'm sure, will have a different experience, but ours was not good.
Posted by: Jupiter 30th Sep 2011, 11:10am
There is one big drawback when stealing from a shop such as Tesco or any other supermarket.You are liable to get caught,arrested and taken to court.So what happens to the kids when their mum is taken away by the Police.Ill tell you.If a relative cannot be found quickly the social work dept become involved and they take the kids.Now is that worth all the hassle?
Forget the profits and shareholders.Supermarkets are businesses there to provide a service and make a profit and if a person takes their property they normally take proceedings as far as they can whether its a £2 pack of bacon or a £30 bottle of whisky.
Posted by: Guest 30th Sep 2011, 11:11am
Perhaps Springburn Tesco should have security guards on the front door to make sure that only locals get access and not these hooligans from across the city intent on thieving.
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 30th Sep 2011, 11:12am
Are you prepared to be repeatedly robbed and burgled by someone who gives a plausible explanation for choosing you as his victim?
Posted by: *bert millers son* 30th Sep 2011, 11:13am
I blame the tourists.... first they are throwing their fags in the streets.... and now they are nicking our streaky bacon!! Next they'll be getting bevvied and shouting the odds at Old Firm matches!!
Ban them!!
Posted by: 0141black 30th Sep 2011, 11:15am
Of course, the fact that the local Tesco manager chooses to do this might not bear much relation to the size of the problem.
And that fact that other Tesco managers choose not to do it...etc
Posted by: stratson 30th Sep 2011, 11:30am
One of the local Govanhill girls way back in the late 50's or early 60's married and she and hubby duly bought villa in Newton Mearns.
This may sound off topic...It's not.
Afew of us visited each other and had dinner. When we went to said persons home we were given a !Spam Sandwich.
She could not afford shopping due to mortgage!
Perhaps those would be "Byres Road shoppers are in similiar position.
No excuse for theft.
Mind you if my kids were hungry no telling what level would stoop to put a bit of food in their mouths.
My priority after roof over your head is proper nutritional food. 
Posted by: wee davy 30th Sep 2011, 11:31am
Well said, greta
However its probably more accurate to say, youve never KNOWINGLY stolen anything LOL) if you were given change of a tenner, instead of a fiver, on the high street - would you go all the way back into town, pay the parking charge, and offer the difference back to the retailer???
I too find it very difficult to sympathise with the 'big boys' at this time - they're xmas's have all come at once, with the present austerity climate.
I saw somewhere, they're putting tags on big bars of chocolate - I can see a lot of gloomy female faces out there
Posted by: wee davy 30th Sep 2011, 11:34am
Mind you if my kids were hungry no telling what level would stoop to put a bit of food in their mouths.
classic, stratson
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 30th Sep 2011, 11:58am
Perhaps supermarkets could have a special counter with the sign 'Free food, poor people only'.
Posted by: MM 30th Sep 2011, 11:59am
In the recession of the late 1970/early 80s we moved to be near husband's work. Living in a rented flat while trying to pay mortgage on our old flat which didn't sell until about 18 months later was now easy. Worse off, couple off years later when we tried to get back into the housing market. Older cottage flat that needing re-wiring. Then the rates went up. Husband walked to work as we couldn't afford petrol. Really had to eke out our money as unfortunately earning just over the benefit line. Never crossed my mind to steal food or anything else for that matter. We just made do.
Came across a photo some 20 years later, of me from then and showed it to some of my colleagues. Younger ones liked my ripped denims. Hadn't the heart to tell them that wasn't the fashion, they were truly worn out. LOL
PS Why you would want to steal in this day and age. Its not the 19th century. There is help out there if you get down off your high horse and look for it.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 30th Sep 2011, 12:01pm
Davy, in an other existence ... my wife who had walked all the way into town to pay the weekly newspaper bill, discovered as she almost reached home on the way back, that the newsagent had given her tuppence too much in her change (it had taken her that long to work it out
) and went all the way back into town to return the 2d. "Here's the man with the most honest wife in town", was my greeting on the Monday morn as I collected my paper on my way to work, amid howls of laughter; since almost everyone who knew her knew also that she was the most noted liar in town.
Posted by: wee davy 30th Sep 2011, 12:35pm
Thats around the back, Alex.
ts called a SKIP!
Posted by: thunder badger 30th Sep 2011, 12:44pm
The poll never mentioned anything about feeding kids on my screen, but it wouldn't change my answer. I was raised to be honest & my parents always managed to put food on the table, maybe cos my dad grew loads of veg in his garden. He'd often swap surplus for somebody else's chicken or pork, maybe these 'poor' people could get an allotment?
Times may be hard at the moment, but as someone with an interest in history, I know for a fact that we've still got it easy compared to our parents & grand-parents. I don't have any sympathy for thieves, especially those stealing to prop up their middle-class mortgage. The phrase 'fur coat an' nae knickers' comes to mind.
Posted by: wee davy 30th Sep 2011, 12:59pm
which banks/financial institutions are selling this product mr badger (or is it mrs?).
welcome to GGDB btw
(kin we mibbe get a 'working-class wan'???)
or hows aboot an UPPER class wan?
dont forget, its only 30 years since EVERYBODY was encouraged to hang a mortgage round their necks - REGARDLESS of social status!!!
wee davy
Posted by: chas1937 30th Sep 2011, 01:04pm
Well I'm sure they can still find money for their cigs,booze,drugs and gambling so saying they need to steal to feed themselves or familiesl is rubbish.So I have no sympathy at all for them when they get caught and trouble is they usually get slap on wrist which means they go out and do it again
Posted by: bilbo.s 30th Sep 2011, 01:23pm
Dear WeeDavy.
Will ye stoap shoutin´words every so often? Ye´re daein´ ma lugs in. For emphasis, ye should italicize !
Posted by: wee davy 30th Sep 2011, 01:27pm
ah dont know a WORD of italian, bilbo - bit ah'll day a wee course fur ye
where dae ah get ma italian keyboard??
(sorry - i'll keep it doon a bit)
Posted by: JAGZ1876 30th Sep 2011, 01:46pm
If someone is stealing to feed their kids, I have no problem with that.
Tesco make squillions in profit, their workers are hardly paid a kings ransom, and the shareholder are rewarded handsomely.
I noticed on the poll, that 2/3rds said that stealing food to feed your children is unacceptable. Perhaps they are ones still with jobs, and they are .... all right Jack.
I voted stealing for any reason is unacceptable, i have had several periods of unemployment over the last 40 years, but never once would i have resorted to stealing. The benefit (Buroo) money that we got went straight to buying food for our children, making sure we stocked the cupboards with cheap tins, biscuits, crisps, etc, going to Freezeway to fill the freezer with cheap sausages, bacon and other cheap meat (not the healthiest of foods i'll admit, but my children were never hungry) that kept us going till the next Giro came and till i eventually got back to work. During that time my wife and i made the decision to do without cigarettes (as we both smoked at the time, if we could afford a packet between us we did) but the childrens welfare always came first. There is no excuse for kids to go hungry in this day and age, its just a case of parents getting their priorities right, and for the hand wringers to stop telling them it's okay to steal, what next, it's okay to break into someone's house to feed the kid's, or it's okay to mug an old lady on the street to feed the kids. Stealing is wrong, no excuses.
Posted by: droschke7 30th Sep 2011, 02:23pm
If someone is stealing to feed their kids, I have no problem with that.
Tesco make squillions in profit, their workers are hardly paid a kings ransom, and the shareholder are rewarded handsomely.
I noticed on the poll, that 2/3rds said that stealing food to feed your children is unacceptable. Perhaps they are ones still with jobs, and they are .... all right Jack.
I am no longer able to work and therefore don't have a job am not one of the "I'm all right Jack" theft is still theft
Posted by: wee davy 30th Sep 2011, 02:39pm
Your so right sir. But they do.
They shouldn't get neglected - but they are.
They shouldn't be abused.
In this 'day and age' however - IMAGE is all important. People strive to BE 'somebody' - have to own the 55 inch screen TV - the latest wii - and suddenly they find the cupboard's BARE!
Not forgetting, they 'have to' own their own home! (At some phenominal price)
Our society is all upside down these days.
Basic values such as 'thou shalt not steal' seem too easy to do without.
(Especially as its mostly considered a midemeanor (eg shoplifting I mean)
Posted by: *mervscot* 30th Sep 2011, 02:46pm
Hi,
The tagging of some meats has been going on in the Tesco EXTRA in Kilmarnock for over a year now.
Regards Merv.
Posted by: amclpreston 30th Sep 2011, 02:47pm
Forget the profits and shareholders.Supermarkets are businesses there to provide a service and make a profit and if a person takes their property they normally take proceedings as far as they can whether its a £2 pack of bacon or a £30 bottle of whisky.
There is rather little indication in what you say..... of any recognition of what people will do out of desperation. Perhaps you are indeed..... all right Jack.
Posted by: *beaufort avenue* 30th Sep 2011, 03:05pm
Since when was Byres Road posh? It was always a nest of reasonably cheap rooms and flats to rent. A good place to stay but it has its share of bums and stiffs and down and outs.
Meanwhile the Fruit Market, sorry Merchant City, is a strange mixture of renewal and mainly old unappealing buildings and streets. Tourist accomodation flats, but certainly not overall pretty or upmarket.
Meanwhile there is no excuse for stealing, especially getting caught !
Posted by: Isobel 30th Sep 2011, 03:17pm
Have you never heard the saying don't judge others until you have walked a mile in their shoes.This is a very sad state of affairs .
I have never stolen a single thing in my life, however I have never been in a situation where my children were hungry.So I am not going to judge.
Yes we all know it"s wrong but ask yourself what would you do if you had starving children.I would do anything for my children as I am sure most on here would be the same.
I know like myself some of us will question the system where folks can buy booze and cigs, go to bingo, but have nothing left for food. Perhaps its time to give stamps for food and deduct this amount from the security cheques many receive. This way the family is going to get fed before the parents take off with the money using it on all the wrong things.
Posted by: Jupiter 30th Sep 2011, 03:29pm
amclpreston,I spent a big part of my working life locking up shoplifters;bacon for some reason was always a favourite and I can say that I never once heard a thief put up the excuse that it was to feed the kids.
I do not believe there is any circumstances where a child should go hungry.Every child is entitled to state benefit and if they are then going hungry the parents are spending the family allowance on something other than what was intended.
Posted by: Heather 30th Sep 2011, 03:56pm
I can't think of any reason to steal, maybe that's because I have never been hungry enough with no food in the house.
When I buy flowers in Morrisons I hang them on the back of the trolley. A few months ago as I was putting the shopping into a taxi I realised the flowers were still on the back of the trolley. I had walked right out the shop without paying for them.
I ran back into the shop to the first check out practically throwing the money for the flowers at the woman on the till. I told the woman what had happened, she just laughed, and there was me in a panic incase I got arrested for stealing.
Posted by: Jupiter 30th Sep 2011, 04:09pm
Heather you were totally innocent,absolutely no guilty intent.Reminds me of an occasion when a young mum had put a packet of disposable nappies in the basket under her pushchair.She paid for her shopping but was stopped by a security guard who wouldnt listen to her and called the police.Female told me that it had been an oversight and that she had no intention of stealing.It was obvious this was the case.I had a word with the security guard but would have been better talking to the wall.
Posted by: angel 30th Sep 2011, 04:13pm
Isobel , sounds like a plan but they would probably sell those food coupons for half the value. and I think that system of social welfare is used in the States .
Posted by: *misterglasgow* 30th Sep 2011, 05:07pm
As they say in downtown Calton .... " Ham not guilty " ....... it was all a mis'steak' your honour ........ are they still looking for the missing link ..
If they put the Steaks on the top shelve they should be safer ...... cos the resulting punishment if caught ....would render the 'Stakes are too high " boom boom
Posted by: benny 30th Sep 2011, 08:50pm
If it were really a case of people stealing to feed their kids, I wouldn't condemn them, but the likelihood of that being the case is vanishingly small. Contrary to popular opinion, living on state benefits isn't easy for most people, but in 99.9% of cases, the money is enough to eat on. Not luxuriously, no, but with a bit of common sense no-one need go hungry. Porridge, and potatoes, are all still relatively cheap commodities and it's quite possible to survive for a long time on chips, potatoes, porridge, bread and marg, if you have to. There are the odd cases where delays in paying benefits can leave a family high and dry, but, relatively speaking, these are few and far between. Most people have money for basic foodstuffs, but some squander it on other things.
Posted by: annemackie 30th Sep 2011, 09:17pm
I had Five children Never stole a thing , they were fed clothed and most years we got a holiday. (caravan) in September when it was cheap. I saved tins of food( one at a time ) so when we did get away I had not much to buy to feed us and had a bit extra cash for treats. same at Christmas. We lived on potatoes, mince, sausages eggs and beans.Bacon was a luxury. I baked birthday cakes and a weekend cake. Just as well I got used to living in poverty I'm now a pensioner and life isn't any better. I have been married all these years , husband had a very small wage , the result a small pension just a couple of pounds over the poverty level which means No extra help with council tax or top up government help What a Life!
Posted by: wombat 30th Sep 2011, 10:08pm
ah seen plenny o stashes o knocked off stuff as a wean livin in brigton in mid 50s/60s,
ennywan remember wee paper bags o coal? dont know whit they weighed,quarter hundredweight at a guess,the stairhed lavvy wis packed wie thim,also big tins o bully beef(army issue)rerr oan mashed totties so they wurr, 
cartons of imperial leather soap (some of us washt wurrselves) puttin security devices oan bacon what next LMAO
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 30th Sep 2011, 11:06pm
I can remember my mother, having six bairns to feed, making a big pot of "yellow dinner". A great big pot of mashed tatties, with a couple of raw eggs stirred into it to cook with the heat of the tatties, and turn them yellow. A big splodge of that on a plate, and baked beans on top. It could hardly be any simpler, or cheaper, but it was our favourite as weans. Still love it.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 30th Sep 2011, 11:58pm
I was doing repairs down at Lasham aerodrome (Where? ) and the check was late in coming for the previous week and I was well out of money. I knocked up something using what I had left in my VW van and some hot water out of the canteen boiler. A mate popped his head in and thought I'd had a secret food stash.
My meal?
Couple of slices of bread with two oxo cubes and the rest of the cornflakes stirred up in hot water. 
And that while doing a twelve hour shift ... but it was hot an' I was hungry.
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 12:10am
Well as my auld grannie tree to say, ' fur coats and nae knickers' seems it still applies!
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 12:16am
What was it your granny tree was tlking about?
Posted by: wee davy 1st Oct 2011, 04:49am
Izzat lassie Agnes referring to you, THEE? (fur coat, nae knickers lol) I've met a few in ma time lol
Posted by: Dave Grieve 1st Oct 2011, 04:58am
Welcome annemackie your in good company here and a lot of us shared the same life experiences as you
Posted by: wee davy 1st Oct 2011, 04:58am
ennywan remember wee paper bags o coal? dont know whit they weighed,quarter hundredweight at a guess,the stairhed lavvy wis packed wie thim,also big tins o bully beef(army issue)rerr oan mashed totties so they wurr,
cartons of imperial leather soap (some of us washt wurrselves) puttin security devices oan bacon what next LMAOAh remember thae wee bags - wur thae no jist tae 'keep ye gaun' until another delivery?
As for the rest of it - imperial leather and bully beef was still hingin aboot way intae the 60's lol
Alex
oh that yella dinner wi beans oan tap - never mind yer french cuisine we used tae say lol
Posted by: Jeansie 1st Oct 2011, 05:38am
One thing that really annoys me about the supermarkets is the amount of perfectly good food they throw away when it reaches its so-called sell-by date. Take our local Co-op, for example. I watched one of the girls taking two huge see through bags out to the skip. They were full of all kinds of food, most of which would have been edible. She told me that it was worth £140!!!! Why can't these shops GIVE this food to people who are needy? There are lots of pensions who use this particular shop who would probably be only too pleased to have it.
Posted by: wee davy 1st Oct 2011, 05:50am
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't that the one which retailers can be prosecuted for, if they supply it (even for free) to the public AFTER this date???
I believe they can be fined many tens of thousands.
Its something which has always confused me, though - I've asked myself the same question many times 'why dont they just give it away' - but I suppose everybody wi a fur coat and nae knickers wid be at the front ai the queue LOL
Posted by: Dave Grieve 1st Oct 2011, 06:23am
Here they dont have a 'sell by date' but a 'use by date' and even that as far as I know is not compulsory, with several charities at our local supermarket collecting this 'old ' food
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 07:56am
Ok smart arse, should have read 'used to say' not tree! :$
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 08:36am
Now Now,Agnes. I wasnt casting aspersions on your spellinng.Its not the done thing here as other posters will confirm.I was merely asking a civil question.
Posted by: wee davy 1st Oct 2011, 08:52am
at least she put 'smart' in front of a**se, Joop - obviously doesn't know you - yet lol
I think its a rather nice thought, actually - a granny tree lol
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Oct 2011, 08:59am
Don't think so somehow Davy. I was an animal rights kinda guy back then ... so it was Straw Boater and no shreddies.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Oct 2011, 09:28am
In Germany it's the mindest haltbarkeits datum (all one word
) which translates as the minimum storage date, or shelf life or period of minimal durability ... depending on product. An example just yesterday in our house: I wanted to boil up the last three eggs in the fridge from a previous shopping and could only see the new box. Mary had the day off and had cleaned out the fridge; binnin' the eggs which were 1 day past their shelf life. So I took them out of the bin and rinsed them, for what that's worth, then boiled them up and ate them before we both went to pick up The Hound Formerly Known as Rottweiler
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 09:31am
Weedavy,I really did think Agnes was referring to her Granny Tree.I did think thats not a common name but obviously its someones.She did of course get the smart part spot on.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Oct 2011, 09:36am
Different branch of the family, Joop.
Posted by: wee davy 1st Oct 2011, 09:50am
Probably frae Byres Road.
Posted by: GG 1st Oct 2011, 10:22am
We're straying a wee bit off topic here, however, as I did mention the exemplary behaviour of those good citizens of Springburn – including our 'new' Glaswegians – let me post a short news story I remember from the Daily Star in 2005. I have a good memory!
Asylum seekers yesterday accused store chiefs of being Scrooges by pouring bleach over leftover food to stop them using it. Cash-strapped refugees have been queueing up daily to "rescue" meat, vegetables, bread and cakes from giant bins at a Costco store in Glasgow.
Although the food has only just passed its sell-by date, they say there is nothing wrong with it and has become a vital source of food. But bosses of the American-owned wholesale giant insist it must be destroyed.
One Turkish asylum seeker, who has been picking up leftovers from the Springburn store to feed his family, said: "It seems Costco isn't listening to Bob Geldof who wants to make poverty history.
"The food that is being thrown out is just going to waste. It is not stealing, but rather than give it to people to feed our families they destroy it. They have even started pouring bleach over the food."
However, Costco director Francis Ball said: "We'd love to give it away, but it is not safe."
© 2005 Express Newspapers
GG.
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 10:32am
Ok I will let you off this time but only because you sound like a nutter lol. I shall try to be more careful when texting. I don't have a computer so am using my crap phone and it takes ages. Also sometimes it makes no sense at all, even with the text prediction on! And besides, i'm a newbie so geas a break eh? Lol
Posted by: GG 1st Oct 2011, 10:38am
Thanks for taking the time to explain that for us, Agnes. Makes sense now. We are a good bunch, and generally well-behaved, so I think you will enjoy it here. I can also vouch for Jupiter being a very helpful and considerate poster.
That said, you may have to watch out for our Rabbie, as you are using 'his' Einstein avatar! 
GG.
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 10:45am
Cheeky wee thing! Kinning Park then Castlemilk, if you please.
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 11:16am
That said, you may have to watch out for our Rabbie, as you are using 'his' Einstein avatar!
GG.
Aw thanks GG, I was not offended, and I can take the leg pulling and give it back.
And for 'Rabbies' Einstein Avatar! well, we will see about that . . . .lol.
It's good to be here at last it looks like fun.
Posted by: chrissybaby711 1st Oct 2011, 11:26am
I dont see how people should assume its the middle class who are to blame here. People from all walks of life shoplift. Lady Isobel Barnett? Winona Rider? Richard Madeley? If hard times are hitting the middle classes then they will be hammering the poorer people, drug addicts and of course students! Anyone can steal for a variety of reasons. I have to say I think tax avoidance is a much more serious form of theft. Tesco probably have their ways of paying as little tax as possible.
Between the big criminals and the little thieves, its the big thieves rule the land,
They put a penny in the pot for the poor
And with their other take another and a thousand more.
Rory Mcleod busker and fold singer
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 11:35am
..And I meant to say welcome to the boards Agnes.
Ive just driven up Byres Road and I dont think there will be much of anything never mind shoplifting today.Its a total washout.Thank goodness for SKYSPORTS.
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 11:55am
Ive just driven up Byres Road and I dont think there will be much of anything never mind shoplifting today.Its a total washout.Thank goodness for SKYSPORTS.
Thanks for the welcome Jupiter. Do you happen to know if anyone is using Mr. Spock for their Avatar?
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 12:04pm
On you go Agnes if its Mr Spock you want.If someone is using they will soon let you know but I havent seen it here.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Oct 2011, 12:28pm
I like these two 
But there are more here to choose from although you might have to downsize them
http://www.google.com/search?q=Mister+Spock&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=UQe&rls=org.mozilla:de%3a%6ffficial&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=mv6GTszqBJOz8QPhvsA6&ved=0CDoQsAQ&biw=939&bih=708
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 01:14pm
Thanks for your help there Jupiter and THH. I cant do much on this phone so I have chosen one from the GG selection. Hope I can keep it.
Posted by: chrissybaby711 1st Oct 2011, 01:38pm
Also, I find it amusing that no one EVER admits to shoplifting, even though its a very common thing. It must be! That must be why there are so many security staff and cameras. Britain must be a nation of petty thieves ruled over by grand thieves.
See Limmys show, Starbar on Youtube for a laugh. Anyone name any more famous shoplifters???
Glasgow guide boards need a Like function as on facebook, a dislike would be good too and links to youtube, it would make it so much more FUN.
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 02:20pm
YEEHAAW! . . .
Well that's me sorted. I have got my Avatar and Signature and filled in the missing bits on my info.
I HAVE ARRIVED!
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Oct 2011, 04:49pm
Welcome aboard Spock ... watch ye don't get barred.
Sunny Scotland ... I love that.
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 05:58pm
Agnes,Will you boldly go?
Posted by: Agnes McManus 1st Oct 2011, 06:56pm
Fascinating. . . .
Thanks for the welcome THH. I have only just arrived, why would I be barred?
And if I do get barred, Jupiter, I shall indeed boldly go!
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 07:08pm
You wont get barred Agnes and I look forward to your banter.
Posted by: frame 1st Oct 2011, 07:25pm
This particular topic has certainly drawn a mixed bag of opinions which I somehow found more interesting to read than to post.
I haven't ever that I can recall been in a position were the thought has crossed my mind whether to take or buy when in a store.
Are there different types of theft? If someone steals for pure profit or gain is that marked as being on the same principle as someone who steals out of desperation?
Most people know how to define profit or gain but how do you define desperation? Or more to the point, at what level of desperation would it be acceptable if at all.
On topics like this I would much rather read about them on these boards than listen to the, so called, experts on a television debate. Much more entertaining
Posted by: benny 1st Oct 2011, 07:48pm
I think desperation must mean that you are literally starving, or on the point of doing so. No hivin any anchovies fur the Salad Nicoise widnae count.
It seems that food charities are busier than ever these days:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/oct/01/families-queue-for-food-handouts
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 07:55pm
Frame there are quite a number of types of theft.Theft is a crime at commom law meaning its definition was never written down however it has been latterly defined in the Theft Act 1968.Types of theft are Theft,Theft by Housebreaking,theft by opening a lockfast place,theft by finding.There are others but the basic feature is when one deprives another of their property unlawfully.Motives for theft are many and when an offender is detected and prosecuted each case would be judged on its own particular circumstances.There would be a big difference in penalty from,for example stealing a pack of bacon than from going to the art gallery and stealing a painting.
Hope this helps.
Posted by: Rob Rattray 1st Oct 2011, 07:59pm
If one is speaking of Bacon as such then I'm NOT sorry for anyone caught stealing the said commodity, but IF you are using the phrase loosely and meaning bringing home bread for the table, it takes on another spectrum;
In future, word your storylnes a wee bit better as you DO have International readers.
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Oct 2011, 08:16pm
Rob can I refer you to the topic subject and the fact that a supermarket in what is sometimes termed the upmarket west end of Glasgow has been compelled to place an electronic anti theft device on bacon packets due to high number of thefts of said bacon.
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 1st Oct 2011, 09:59pm
The original story was about theft of bacon from supermarkets, and included pictures of packs of bacon. What was the difficulty you had with the wording that was not clarified by the pictures?
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 12:18am
There certainly are Frame.
A good example of one sort of theft was the recent case here of the German Defence Minister Dr. Karl-Theodore zu Guttenberg who it transpired had earned his Doctor title at the Bayreuth Uni. through plagiarism. The scandal resulted in him having to give up his Doktor Title ... and his ministry.
Opportunistic theft is another type which was seen during the London's Burning riots. In this case there must have been several people who grabbed items of greater or lesser value after someone else had previously smashed.
Then there's the type of theft that we learned to hone to a fine art in the RAF, which was basically puting something which belonged to another squadron to much better use on our own squadron; since it all belonged to Her Madge's Government anyway we saw that more as a transfer of assets or equipment rather than out-and-out theft.
We say that in Art there is no theft; you can copy an other artist's idea and enhance or embellish it - forgery being something completely different.
Of course the act of stealing, food for example, out of desperation is another type again; tho' theft is theft.
There was a time when this action would have seen the perpetrator hand-rearing orphaned Joeys a la Wombat.
To this crime of stealing food through sheer hunger and desperation, I must also plead guilty as charged m' Lud.
It was around '65 in Birmingham and I had been out of work for about 4 weeks; neither signed on the dole nor social because I thought I'd have been back in work by the 2nd week, and down to my last 5/- (that's 5 bob or 25 pence to the younger genration reading these boards
and was walking past a shop wondering what my next move was to be when a lorry driver went past me into the shop pushing a sack cart loaded with crates of scoosh ... leaving the side of his truck open. So I grabbed a carton of potatoe crisps and a couple of bottles of lemonade and high-tailed it away from there and ate and drank till I was almost sick. If I'd had any sense I'd have pinched the truck instead and flogged it on Paddy's Market after drivin' home; killin' 2 birds wi' one stone as it were.
Still, I am a theif and can't deny it and in an other era I'd have been sent to the colonies ... if caught.
Posted by: tamhickey 2nd Oct 2011, 03:31am
Byres Road takes in the residents of Anderston and Partick as well as the Whiteinch area, so not all are well heeled. When you think about it, benefits aren't increasing, wages have been frozen for many people for the last few years, household fuel costs have soared by 29%, taxes have risen, pensions have fallen, prices have risen and unemployment has gone up. It's no longer a choice for many people. We are the ones whose pockets are thieved on a daily basis by Government, oil and gas companies and supermarkets. Is it any wonder that the poverty foisted on so many has this kind of result? It will get very much worse in the future, as I can see Greece defaulting on the Euro, Portugal and Spain following and the Eurozone collapsing like dominos. This will result in huge devaluations in currencies worldwide which means more unemployment and much more austerity. We ain't seen nothing yet, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Poverty is not pretty, and when there's a choice between heating your home in the winter or eating, what would you do?
Posted by: eidas 2nd Oct 2011, 06:30am
If someone is stealing to feed their kids, I have no problem with that.
I have a huge problem with anyone stealing to feed their kids, what a way to rear a family! Weans don't need bacon to survive, a big pot of stew with less meat and lots of vegetables did us no harm in the 50's and 60's when times were truly tough, no one has it really tough today!
Posted by: GG 2nd Oct 2011, 07:50am
From the Guardian last year:
From the Daily Mail last week:
[New] Tesco UK chief executive Richard Brasher suggested millions are suffering hard times, struggling to put food on the table amid the biggest pressure on the cost of living for at least 60 years.
Increases in the cost of gas, electricity, food and petrol have massively outpaced those in pay and pensions. ...
GG.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 09:01am
Strangely enough we have much the same thing over here but on last nights news the number of unemployed was shown as being just under the 2.5 million mark, in a population of 80+ million.
At the same time the supermarkets like Aldi, Lidl, Pennymarkt, Rewe (the big 4) fill our letterboxs each weekend with their flyers showing 20% and 30% off many items of food and drink. We have lots of Swiss come over into our town for their weekend shopping where there is an abundance of competitive supermarkets (probably to attract the Swiss and French neighbours).
Still, I've recently traded deep-frozen chips for the peel-and-cut your-own variety thus going from €3 per kilo to €0.50cents per kilo and buying a kilo of Marlboro roll-yer-own tobacco for the price of two packets of cigarettes.
Weaning off the Bacardi (@ €12.95 a bottle) is proving difficult
... even with the "Duff" beer substitute (What's good for Homer must be good enuff for me ).
Posted by: bilbo.s 2nd Oct 2011, 09:09am
Tomi,
I use Lidl's "Liberté" white rum. It's not Bacardí but at 4,59€ it'll do me.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 09:13am
Oh, Bill ... that's a bit like cheatin' on your misses ... but I'll definitely gie it a try - the Liberté, I mean.
Posted by: bilbo.s 2nd Oct 2011, 09:18am
It is definitely not cheating Lynne, as it is part of her housekeeping budget.
Posted by: bilbo.s 2nd Oct 2011, 09:20am
BTW I see our mutual buddy J-P is off to Fuenteventura for Christmas and New Year at some exorbitantly priced hotel. Loadsamoney !
Posted by: Melody 2nd Oct 2011, 09:36am
Things are really bad:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/oct/01/sharp-rise-demand-food-handouts
What would be your option be if your children were starving? Letting them starve? Begging? Would that be a more palatable option?
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 11:13am
Must be aw that money he saves in that wee St Louis flat o' his.
By the way, Melody, in my local supermarket (Rewe) where I do my weekly shopping they were giving away bunches of 5 bananas last week to customers, who wanted them, at the cash-out.
They were nice.
Posted by: benny 2nd Oct 2011, 11:50am
Weaning off the Bacardi (@ €12.95 a bottle) is proving difficult
... even with the "Duff" beer substitute (What's good for Homer must be good enuff for me ).Either ciggies must be helluva dear in Deutschland or rollin tobacco dirt cheap.
Two packets o fags ower here cost aboot £13. 25grammes of tobacco costs aboot £8, so a kilo wid cost aboot £320.
Posted by: bilbo.s 2nd Oct 2011, 12:18pm
Think Tomi has spilt Bacardi on his calculator and his decimal point has drifted.
Here in Spain Marlboro are 4.90 ¤ a packet ( 4.20 GBP at today´s exchange rate. )
Drum / Golden Virginia is 6.75 ¤ for 50g. (5.80GBP " " " " ) - 116GBP per Kg.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 12:29pm
I'm rollin' JPS Red at the moment (¤4.85 for 40g) and was going to pick up the Marlboro this afternoon when I go back to the filling station ... but maybe Specsavers should be my first port of call. The Marlboro must be 100g and not the 1000g that I thought I'd read ... but it is in a really big round tin like a coffee jar.
Posted by: bilbo.s 2nd Oct 2011, 01:29pm
I reckon it´s yon 7 litre bottles o´ Bacardí that´s the trouble !
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 01:31pm
Like seing double-double.
Posted by: GG 2nd Oct 2011, 02:27pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/oct/01/sharp-rise-demand-food-handouts
What would be your option be if your children were starving? Letting them starve? Begging? Would that be a more palatable option?
Thanks Melody, a very interesting article with some great comments.
And while Rome burns... Glasgow politicians pat themselves on the back:
30 September 2011
Scotland's largest council spent almost £80,000 in one year on awards ceremonies, according to new figures.
Figures released following a Freedom of Information request from the Taxpayers' Alliance revealed Glasgow City Council spent £79,529 in the financial year 2010/11, the second highest out of all the councils which responded across the UK.
Responding to the extravagant amount spent, a council spokesman said:
For example, the Commonwealth Apprenticeship Initiative awards event showcased some of the many hundreds of successful young people in Glasgow who now have a bright future ahead of them thanks to Glasgow City Council and businesses in the city and beyond.
Glasgow City Council is by far the biggest local authority in Scotland, and the total spend on events has to be seen in the context of our annual budget of around £2.5bn."
City Of Edinburgh Council spent just £922!
GG.
Posted by: bilbo.s 2nd Oct 2011, 02:32pm
I suppose Aberdeen spent zilch !
Posted by: GG 2nd Oct 2011, 02:41pm
I think that you are right, Tam. The atmosphere on the streets of Glasgow is probably the most depressed I have ever seen. People, generally, know what is happening, and they understand that their politicians have completely failed them, and continue to fail them.
GG.
Posted by: GG 2nd Oct 2011, 02:58pm
Actually, according to them, they did spend nothing ... and they were among 115 councils UK-wide who refused to spend money on awards' ceremonies!
Here's the full breakdown of the Glasgow expenditure:
- Glasgow Herald Society Awards Dinner, £153
- Flourish Awards - Staff Recognition Awards, £17,309
- Clean Glasgow Awards, £10,086
- Staff Recognition Awards Evening, £1,500
- Events for Young People, Parents and Carers Celebrating Success, £6,000
- Commonwealth Apprenticeship Initiative, £9,577
- Community consultation event, £450
- Drinks Reception, £419
- Long Service/Staff Recognition Awards, £9,757
- Rose Trials Reception/Dinner, £23,778
- Magic Of Motown, £3,383
- Social Work Reception, £500
GG.
Posted by: Jupiter 2nd Oct 2011, 03:41pm
GG Ive just left Braehead shopping centre which was extremely busy including the tills and I would say it would have been hard to detect any feelings of gloom.
Id be interested to know which politicians let the people down,this lot in Scotland,the lot in London or perhaps the previous lot in London.
Incidentally the bacon is on offer in M&S.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 03:45pm
Two packets o fags ower here cost aboot £13. 25grammes of tobacco costs aboot £8, so a kilo wid cost aboot £320.
Nothin' to do with bacon butties but ...
I've just been to the fillin' station and the Marlboro tabacco was 110g - ma eyes must be bad
- @ €14.40 (= €131.81 per Kilo) and equivalent to 240 cigarettes and the fags I bought (Mary won't let me smoke roll-ups in the living room ) were 2 x Marlboro Maxi Pack (28 per pack) @ €6.90 = €13.80 for 56 cigies ... so the tabacco was a steal.
Posted by: wee davy 2nd Oct 2011, 05:41pm
Ahh,... bit were they giving it away, FREE? Or were they offering it to be stolen??
http://www.fareshare.org.uk/?page_id=1502
Did anybody know about this???
I certainly didn't.
Just read about it. Says its nationwide.
http://www.rinopuccistudio.co.uk/slideshows/the-best-before-day.php
How it works in London - Recent video
Posted by: wee davy 2nd Oct 2011, 05:58pm
The more I learn about this Fare Share, the more I'm becoming impressed
If Aberdeen, Dundee and Edinburgh have got a distribution centre - where is GLASGOWS???
davy
Posted by: Jupiter 2nd Oct 2011, 06:03pm
It said,"Look no tags"
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 06:08pm
Interesting link Davy. I didn't realise that the situation was so bad in the UK.
This Sainsbury's idea (Sainsbury have been helping out since the mid '90's) seems to be something that might catch on, According to the report a similar project in France raised 13,000 tonnes of cupboard store food (pastas and rice for example) over a single weekend :-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/jul/07/sainsbury-shoppers-donate-food-poor?INTCMP=SRCH
Posted by: benny 2nd Oct 2011, 06:14pm
We don't need it. If ye're hungry here, ye jist go tae Tesco an swipe a packet o bacon.
Ah remember years ago, the surplus EU butter and cheese used tae be distributed tae pensioners an others oan benefits, by charities. Until it came tae the question of the government contributing tae the distribution costs, then it quickly came tae an end.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 06:20pm
Which government was that Benny?
Posted by: bilbo.s 2nd Oct 2011, 06:25pm
Aye, but that option isnae open tae oor Muslim or Jewish neighbours.
Posted by: Rabbie 2nd Oct 2011, 06:54pm
GG.
<~~ Pokes heid oot of the local recycling skip. Tight wads hereabouts
Eh wit... maybe its a relative.... <cringe>
Just checking for components to lash together a custom build PC. I recently suffered a unexpected promotion into the world of high tech midden raking and skip diving. I think the previous incumbent expired from arsenic, mercury and radioactive poisoning, so I was a prime candidate fur the job.
So...
West end toffs nicking security tagged bacon, wit next haw haw. I doubt they are doing it cause their weans are starving. Despite the governments best efforts it's hardly Somalia in the UK, although in some areas you could be forgiven for thinking so.
Now then ah dunno aboot druggies needing a fix of bacon, would they not have another type of fix on their agenda? Then wit does a dithering auld fart like me ken about substance abuse....I have honestly no got a glue.
Aye, fur sure times are more expensive, it's nearly a fiver fur 6 liters of supermairket kidney slayer. Ah wid hardly recommend flushing this volatile fluid doon the cluddgie. It would prolly contaminate the water table and deplete the Irish Sea of all marine life. Therefore, I am more than happy to do the honourable ting to save the world, reprocess it first. Tis rewarding work until ye wake up feeling like ye have have been battered by Tyson.
Fur coat and nea knickers. Now that paints a picture, wanna swop phone numbers <wink wink>
Right I am affski; crispy bacon and egg butties incoming, with strong coffee!
Posted by: frame 2nd Oct 2011, 07:32pm
So the guy who steals the Picasso or Van Gogh and gets caught is heading for free bed and board in a nice institution and the guy who steals the bacon for survival takes a lesser hit and by that, continues to starve.
Thanks for the comeback Jupiter and you too THH.
Posted by: GG 2nd Oct 2011, 08:33pm
Id be interested to know which politicians let the people down,this lot in Scotland,the lot in London or perhaps the previous lot in London.
Incidentally the bacon is on offer in M&S.
To be honest, Jupiter, in my most humble of opinions, I think Braehead is part of the problem with its poorly-paid staff serving punters who think a quick dose of credit-fuelled consumerism will fix everything. Too serious? Yes, probably!
Regrading the politicians: I think it would be unfair of me to single any group out, as I don't see that any other group is actually acting in the best interest of Glaswegians. Probably the ones that do irk the most are those privileged career politicians who masquerade as champions of the people while blaming everything on the behaviours of said people, as if we live in a society where our personal circumstances count for nothing.
GG.
Posted by: GG 2nd Oct 2011, 08:49pm
Yes, but was it tagged? I heard last week that M&S had been tagging their chicken for some time!
GG.
Posted by: Jupiter 2nd Oct 2011, 08:49pm
GG I have no doubt that in respect of pay you are correct but that I suppose has occured all over the place with the demise of all the big industries.I frequent the place simply because of the convenience of free parking.Parking fees in the city are crazy.Ive got to get the bacon somewhere.
Please dont think I was trying to put you on the spot re the politicians;I was being a wee bit tic on that as I think you will be aware and I do concur with your sentiments on our politicians.
Posted by: benny 2nd Oct 2011, 10:04pm
The government of the much loved Margaret Thatcher, THH.
The charities which had been distributing the food on behalf of the government claimed that it had become too costly for them to do it with only their own resources, and asked for government help to cover the distribution costs. The help was not forthcoming, unsurprisingly. It seems that now the government instead pays some farmers no to grow anything in some of their fields.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 10:59pm
... It seems that now the government instead pays some farmers no to grow anything in some of their fields.
I remember oor Rab touchin' on the subject of not raisin' pigs
... ... but surely that cannae be the same Margaret Thatcher; daughter of a corner-shop grocer, who gave the working class the opportunity of buying their cooncil hooses and givin' them the benefit of security on bank loans instead of paying rent the rest of their lives?
Naw. Ye must mean anither wan.
Posted by: wombat 2nd Oct 2011, 11:29pm
a bit aff topic,still got pig meat in the story,scumbag bought poultry offa ma wombat,
didny pey fer thim ,seems he dis it wie everywan local shop etc,only 150 bucks,neighbour tells me he's left 100 + goats on her place +plus 2 sows and a boar for her to look after against her wishes until he can sell them(used to be lovers)beats her up if he dont get his wey a real hero (pals wie the local cop) in the same situation wid you
A. dae nuthin (like a coward)wether outta fear /retribution or whatever.?
or B kidnapp wan of the pigs tae cover whit he owes ma wombat
or C gie him a knuckle sandwich an kidnapp two pigs? cheers joey
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Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 11:35pm
Go for the double bacon whopper Wombat ... and give the rest of his animals to Food Share.
(When are you gon' tae turn that photie? )
Posted by: wombat 2nd Oct 2011, 11:45pm
thanks for the support T hee ,its the pig i feel sorry for
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Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Oct 2011, 11:46pm
Way ta go go Joey.
Posted by: wombat 2nd Oct 2011, 11:55pm
yoo talkin ta me ?well are ya ? (robert di ne roo)one of my favourite actors M8
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Posted by: Dave Grieve 3rd Oct 2011, 06:35am
TeeHeeHee said
"Still, I am a theif and can't deny it and in an other era I'd have been sent to the colonies ... if caught."
With a bit of luck you would have ended up here Or god forbid in Orstalia
(in case you dont know it theres a big sporting rivalry between the two countries)
Posted by: WATSON 3rd Oct 2011, 07:43pm
Kangaroos aside [ha-ha] I have enjoyed reading over this topic for the last half hour or so. Just like somebody said earlier I would far rather read the opinions of ordinary Glasgwegian citizens than sit through another stupid 'question time' with the so-called great and the good.
Posted by: Stevie3 4th Oct 2011, 01:12am
RE Bacon
They are about to tag all meat products here in Australia also because of theft so it is becoming a world wide problem not only in Glasgow. my home town
Busman
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 4th Oct 2011, 08:08am
I'm going to start tagging my pension because those thieving toerags at the Inland Revenue keep helping themselves to it.
Posted by: Scotsman 4th Oct 2011, 10:49am
I would like a tracking beacon put on the money I pay in cooncil tax as I never seem to see where it goes.... at least not round here!!
Last time I was in the Merchant City I was actually surprised at how few toffs I saw.... maybe they were all in Tescos??
Posted by: droschke7 4th Oct 2011, 12:27pm
maybe those people who find it necessary to shoplift to "Feed their Kids" should stop smoking, drinking and abusing drugs then they would be able to feed their kids. Get some beef shin chop it up with onions and other veg, add a stock cube and a tin of soup, put all that in a slow cooker and wait 8 hours. Beef shin costs next to nothin in Morrisons, Frozen veg and onions under a pound in Farm foods and a tin of soup for 35p in Lidle. All together it costs about 60p per person and is filling nutritious and tasty.
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 4th Oct 2011, 01:03pm
Excellent suggestion, I'm going to try it. (Just need to see now if I can nick a slow cooker out of Tesco's.)
Posted by: bilbo.s 4th Oct 2011, 01:20pm
I´ve waited 8 hours now. Is it OK to switch on ?
Posted by: Dave Grieve 4th Oct 2011, 01:29pm
Posted by: benny 4th Oct 2011, 02:10pm
From Morrison's website:
7 quid a kilo is hardly "next to nothin" when ye've only got wan an wampence left in yer purse.
Posted by: Dylan 4th Oct 2011, 04:11pm
You use a purse Benny ?
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Oct 2011, 04:14pm
Don' t wi' aw.
Posted by: bilbo.s 4th Oct 2011, 04:47pm
7 quid a kilo is hardly "next to nothin" when ye've only got wan an wampence left in yer purse.
Yer wan & wampance would have been just aboot enough fer yer weekly meat ration in 1945. How many folk remember or realise that meat rationing only ended on 4 July, 1954 - 9 long years after the war and 1 year after the coronation- a glowing tribute to the governments of the day.
I remember being on holiday in July 1953 in Belgium and seeing folk tuck into enormous steaks, the likes of which I had never clapped eyes on. Mince and sausages were our stretch- the mince certainly not "best steak" and the bangers mostly cereal.
Can anyone explain how or why rationing continued for so long in UK ? Just the usual ineptness of parliament ?
Posted by: droschke7 4th Oct 2011, 04:54pm
7 quid a kilo is hardly "next to nothin" when ye've only got wan an wampence left in yer purse.
that's stewing beef not beef shin there is a difference
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 4th Oct 2011, 05:43pm
I've heard it said that the national diet in post-war Britain was much healthier, as a result of the lowered intake of meat and fat products, and the higher reliance on cereals and pulses and the like. It's an argument I think has a lot going for it.
Posted by: bilbo.s 4th Oct 2011, 06:26pm
That may well be correct, Alex - but that was not my point. Besides, nearly everything was rationed up to different dates. Why on earth did it last so long ? Were there rogue U-boats still prowling the Atlantic, unaware of the cessation of hostilities? Why then was bread and flour rationing only introduced from 1946 until 1948 ?
We were not taught any of this in history at school, as we were at school while it was happening.
None of this inspires confidence in a British Government´s ability to handle problems. Plus ça change.........
Posted by: angel 4th Oct 2011, 07:53pm
Introduction to Rationing Food Rationing Clothes Rationing
Below is a timeline of some of the things which were rationed during the war
1939 World War Two begins
1939 - Petrol rationing (ended May 1950 )
8 January 1940 - Rationing of bacon, butter and sugar
11 March 1940 - All meat was rationed
July 1940 - Tea and margarine were added to the list of rationed foods.
March 1941 - Jam was put on ration.
May 1941 - Cheese was rationed
1 June 1941 - Rationing of clothing (ended 15 March 1949)
June 1941 - Eggs were put on ration
July 1941 - Coal was rationed because more and more miners were called up to serve in the forces.
January 1942 - Rice and dried fruit were added to the list of rationed foods.
February 1942 - Soap was rationed so that oils and fats could be saved for food.
Tinned tomatoes and peas were were added to the list of rationed food.
By 17 March 1942, coal, gas and electricity were all rationed
26 July 1942 - Rationing of sweets and chocolate. Each person was allowed about 2oz (55 grams) a week
August 1942 - Biscuits rationed
1943 - Sausages are rationed
1945 World War Two Ends
Rationing continued on many items until 1954.
1948 - The end of rationing begins. It is another 5 years before rationing of all products is stopped.
25 July 1948 - end of flour rationing
15 March 1949 - end of clothes rationing
19 May 1950 - rationing ended for canned and dried fruit, chocolate biscuits, treacle, syrup, jellies and mincemeat.
September 1950 - rationing ended for soap
3 October 1952 - Tea rationing ended
February 1953 - Sweet and sugar rationing ends
4 July 1954 - Food rationing ends
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Bill , this does'nt answer your question , but I thought I'd post this anyway .
Posted by: wee davy 4th Oct 2011, 08:01pm
I would like to assure you, food rationing is alive and well!
t'was certainly still around in 1964 (at least it wiz in MA hoose!)
We used tae go tae Byres Road, tae DROOL lol
Posted by: angel 4th Oct 2011, 08:15pm
We used tae go tae Byres Road, tae DROOL lol
Tell me about it Davy... We just lived at the bottom of the Byers Rd.
Partick Cross.
Posted by: Jupiter 4th Oct 2011, 08:28pm
Having just stepped off the scales in Boots today,I think a return to the ration would not be too bad a thing for me.Any others feel the same?AAArgh!!
Posted by: angel 4th Oct 2011, 08:48pm
I don't think that rationing would be the answer to weight loss ,
we are not as active as past generations and I am convinced that
in the future , should human kind survive , they will probably be born legless as those limbs will be no longer important to the human body .
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 4th Oct 2011, 09:23pm
I understood that, it was just a tangential point that, in a manner of speaking, fell out in the wash. Perhaps it shows, a propos of the topic, that one doesn't need to spend a lot of money to eat well, and that these days, food is a pleasure aspiration and not a health aspiration.
I think there's an interesting little research project there. At a purely simplistic level, the rate of destruction during a war is going to be a lot higher than the rate that rebuild is possible (streets that took months or years to build can be destroyed in a couple of minutes), so perhaps we shouldn't be surprised that a war that lasted half a decade would need a decade for recovery.
Certainly a topic for someone to root around in, I'd agree.
Posted by: benny 4th Oct 2011, 09:31pm
Read the writin in the photie. It says, "Usually from the shin." If it's beef and it's frae the shin, then presumably it's beef shin , whether ye want tae call iit stewiing beef or ostrich escalopes.
Posted by: benny 4th Oct 2011, 09:35pm
Aye, ah think they were called Dobbinburgers. We jist made glue ooty oor auld horses.
Posted by: wombat 4th Oct 2011, 09:52pm
glue wis only made fae thehooves benny,as fer the rest?mind they tins of bully beef?"therr yie go"
Posted by: droschke7 4th Oct 2011, 09:54pm
LOL they're selling slow cookers in Wilkinsons in Clydebank (Bottom of the Shopping centre Escalator) for £7
Posted by: wombat 4th Oct 2011, 09:57pm
slow cookers work well wie solar systems as they draw low watts,nuthin beats a campfire tho
Posted by: droschke7 4th Oct 2011, 09:58pm
yes but if you go into morrisons you can see that the stewing Beef and Beef shin are different, they have packets where itr says Stewing Beef, and there are opackets where it says Beef Shin, the latter being much cheaper than the former.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Oct 2011, 10:00pm
That was when the teachers started to clip wur ears for comin' tae school wi' durty necks since we'd nae maer excuses.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Oct 2011, 10:03pm
Half the younger generation are legless any night o' the week as it is.
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 4th Oct 2011, 10:06pm
That's phenomenally cheap. Mine was £16 from Amazon and I thought that was good (it's a Morphy Richards).
I'm on Economy7 electricity, so I put my slow cooker on overnight, same as I do with things that I cook in the oven on the timer. Wherever I can, I do all my cooking/washing overnight to use the cheap rate electricity. Just made a haggis lasagne and it's in the oven to cook by 8am tomorrow morning. My slow cooker doesn't have a timer, but I just plug it in to one of those cheap £3 things, set it to cook between 2am and 8am, and it works a treat. Did a Hungarian Goulash the other day with the cheapest of cheap cuts, and it was superb. I'll report on the haggis lasagne tomorrow.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Oct 2011, 10:09pm
Would you believe that some of the hillbilly Swiss (the wans that yoddle, no' the wans that play fitbaw) are still partial to the odd Fidoburger ... an' a don't think rationin' was ever an issue wi' them.
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 4th Oct 2011, 10:12pm
Would make you cautious about ordering a hot dog, I guess.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Oct 2011, 10:13pm
Alex, the 7 quid ones are MURPHY Richards.
Posted by: wombat 4th Oct 2011, 10:14pm
"haggis lasangne"my goad alex here's a fotie of a real wan cooked the ither day
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Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Oct 2011, 10:17pm
Alex, Wombat's got a photographic memory.
Posted by: wombat 4th Oct 2011, 10:22pm
pourin rain here at present tee hee,no a guid day fer pignappin( leave too many trax) bacon will hiv tae wait 
Posted by: angel 4th Oct 2011, 10:36pm
the best canned cornbeef Wombat , comes from the Argentine
it is mixed with horse meat but not " any auld cuddy " it's a special
Argentinian breed of horse , I remember being told that in school about a thousand years ago .
Posted by: wombat 4th Oct 2011, 10:44pm
yep your dead right angel
Posted by: angel 4th Oct 2011, 10:56pm
yep your dead right angel
Wombat , you did'nt have to agree about when I went to school ,
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 4th Oct 2011, 11:21pm
That lasagne looks superb. Got to say, lasagne's my favourite pasta dish -- love the crispy bits glistening orange-red, and the smell of baking garlic! None of your microwavable frozen rubbish.
I'm going to treat myself tomorrow lunchtime, and for dessert, I've had a rumtopf on the go for the last six months, so a big bowl of raspberries and apricots and mangoes and grapes that have been soaking in dark rum since the spring.
Posted by: benny 5th Oct 2011, 10:57am
Cheaper is sometimes dearer in the long run, though. Both masel and a friend got toasters frae Asda a coupla years ago fur 7 quid - 4 slicers anaw. No the silly 4 slicers wi 4 slots, but the merr sensible wans wi 2 big long slots so ye can toast plain breid if ye want tae, as well as 4 slice o pan breid. Both toasters lasted approximtely 4 months before they gave up the ghost, or should that be the toast?
Posted by: bilbo.s 5th Oct 2011, 11:29am
Are you suggesting that Droschke7´s shin of beef might only last 4 months as opposed to the superior longevity of other cuts ? Or were you just referring to electrical goods ? In any case, you should have received a full refund or a replacement item for your toaster.
Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 5th Oct 2011, 04:40pm
'Shop lifting' has been mentioned in this thread. In yesteryear you never hear of shop lifting for the simple reason all goods were never within 'hands reach, certainly not food'!
Even Woolworths proteced their goods; assisant stood in the middle of a stall, where goods were covered with glass, you had to point at what you wanted, she would slide back the glass to get your item.
True as Benny has indicated there is not the 'belly hunger' to-day as there was in yesteryyear.
The poor of yesteryear had one blessing - they were not bombarded with adverts of consumer goods - the phrase 'consumer goods was unheard of - indeed they would never see consumer goods in thier slum areas shops.
Posted by: Jupiter 5th Oct 2011, 06:07pm
Aye these were the days Tommy.Was the earth still flat then as well?
Best wishes
Posted by: GG 5th Oct 2011, 06:16pm
I am dismayed to report that what appears to be a middle-class thieving frenzy has now travelled to the Glasgow suburbs ... Bishopbriggs Tesco has just security-tagged its diced beef (£3) and its pork chops (£2.50). Tesco Springburn will need to be on the look-out as these cheeky toffs might be on there way to St Rollox!
I'll upload photos once I figure out how to get them off my new phone!
GG.
Posted by: bilbo.s 5th Oct 2011, 06:30pm
New phone again ? What are you - a teenager ?
Posted by: benny 5th Oct 2011, 09:16pm
Tagging seems tae be moving upmarket. Ah took ma sister tae Sainsbury's on Great Western Road theday, an when she came back oot the shop, she told me that they had most o their wrapped meat tagged.
Ah made the toaster comment in response tae the "cheap slow cooker" post, Bilbo, no the beef shin wan.
Posted by: wombat 5th Oct 2011, 09:23pm
beef shin wan, its that a chinese dish benny
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 5th Oct 2011, 09:31pm
I hear Wokin' the Dog has taken on a new meaning in some posh Glasgow areas now.
Posted by: benny 5th Oct 2011, 10:17pm
beef shin wan, its that a chinese dish benny Naw, it's a kinda Irish Stew. Same as beef shin fein
Posted by: wombat 5th Oct 2011, 10:22pm
sounds good though dinnit? "can i take your order sir"
"can ah have the beef shinwan wie combination rice and noodles"
Posted by: GG 9th Oct 2011, 09:46pm
As promised, the photos from the Tesco in Bishopbriggs which is also security tagging meat products:
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And photos from the Tesco in Springburn where there is no need to!
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GG.
Posted by: ashfield 10th Oct 2011, 09:04am
Well GG, I'm shocked you got away with taking these photo's. Have a look at the attached article, I thought it was hilarious
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/2011/sep/16/tesco-shopping-supermarket-prices-check-writing?INTCMP=SRCH
Posted by: Jupiter 10th Oct 2011, 04:09pm
Ashfield,Ive just read that item.I can see why you say hilarious but in reality dont you think it is absolutely unbelievable what is going on?I see many people,and do it myself, wander about the supermarket with pen and paper in hand.Whats the beef?Incidentally Braehead shopping centre took the prize today for its no photography policy.
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 10th Oct 2011, 04:29pm
Just under 10 quid a kilo.
Posted by: ashfield 10th Oct 2011, 06:07pm
Is that shin or casserole
Jupiter, I just got the vision of a TV sketch in my head with John Cleese as the Tesco official. It was so ridiculous
. The Braehead incident has started something right enough, there has been a campaign going on suggesting the centre is boycotted. For anyone wondering what the story is about look herehttp://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=22342
[GG Edit: thanks ashfield, link changed to our news story.]
Posted by: GG 10th Oct 2011, 07:47pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog/2011/sep/16/tesco-shopping-supermarket-prices-check-writing?INTCMP=SRCH
Thanks ashfield, I suppose that will be me in big trouble with Tesco now!
A quite ridiculous situation. Had their security guards asked me not to photograph their bacon, I would have thanked them courteously and made my way directly to the nearest exit without a further word.
GG.
Posted by: wee davy 10th Oct 2011, 07:54pm
What were you disguised as, Martin? Whatever it was, it seems to have saved YOUR bacon
I think this thread is classic.
Might be considered to be Spam?
Posted by: GG 10th Oct 2011, 08:03pm
Wee Davy, I was wearing my usual photographing attire: a grey pinstripe suit, bowler hat and bright pink tie; I was also carrying an expensive umbrella. I work on the assumption that people who dress like this can get away with anything!
In case any Tesco security guards read this, here is my good self on a previous mission:
GG.
Posted by: Heather 10th Oct 2011, 08:15pm
Posted by: Jupiter 10th Oct 2011, 08:53pm
Ashfield,I get the picture!
Posted by: tamhickey 11th Oct 2011, 04:26am
I agree that this sounds like a Monty Python sketch. Lets hope no parrots were harmed in the execution of his duties.
Posted by: ashfield 11th Oct 2011, 08:50am
I must admit the temptation to go into Tesco just to write down prices is becoming hard to resist In recent times we have had money off vouchers for the store, £9 off if you spend £60. The only way I could keep track of how much we had accumulated was to write it down (I don't do shopping lists), Mr Tesco must have thought I was harmless.
On two occasions over the last year, my wife has bought items of clothing from Tesco and got home with the security tags still in place. Neither were noticed by either the staff or us and no alarm sounded on the way out. I removed one myself (don't ask ) but the material on the other precluded that so it had to go back for them to remove. The assistant said it was happenng all the time So much for that then.
Posted by: Alex MacPhee 11th Oct 2011, 09:44am
I do it too. In fact, when I remember, I use a shopping-list jotter pad bought from the same supermarket. Sometimes I use my mobile phone, because I usually write the things I urgently need on the whiteboard on the kitchen wall, and take a picture of that using the phone's camera before I go off on the shopping trip. I guess that's me breaking every rule in Tesco's book. Or I would be if I shopped there instead of Sainsbury's.
Posted by: tombro 11th Oct 2011, 10:18am
Near where I live there are two of the bigger supermarkets in Australia in competition virtually across the road from each other. The latter only opened a little over a year ago and, since then, it has become common to see people (husband and wife or neighbour and neighbour) shopping in tandem, using a mobile phone to communicate differences in prices.
I don't think we've reached the stage of security tagging bacon, mainly because it's a lot bloody cheaper to buy bacon, pork and chicken over here at the moment than it is to buy beef or lamb !
Tombro
Posted by: Melody 11th Oct 2011, 10:26am
Loved the outfit Martin, ye look fair dapper in that. See if ye look like that folk are feart tae talk tae ye and ye get away wi' anything..
Posted by: ashfield 10th Nov 2011, 10:01am
It appears that Tesco have extended their "tagging" to other goods, including detergent tablets and fabric softener. They must be worried about folk getting clean away Other items tagged included scented candles, Ferrero Rocher and batteries.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/try-to-steal-one-of-these-and-you-ll-be-in-soapy-bubble-1.1133890
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 10th Nov 2011, 01:45pm
Ashfield, I remember reaching for a packet off (4x) batteries only to find that 2 had been removed. I couldn't understand that.
Posted by: ashfield 10th Nov 2011, 01:50pm
What..........and nobody got charged
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 10th Nov 2011, 02:21pm
Posted by: benny 11th Nov 2011, 01:08am
Ah remember gaun intae the supermarket in Balloch years ago, in the days when they used tae hiv wee "stamps" on the side of their boxes of teabags, which you could collect and redeem. Somebody had cut the stamps ooty umpteen boxes, but left the teabags.
Posted by: GG 11th Nov 2011, 01:38am
Other items tagged included scented candles, Ferrero Rocher and batteries.Thanks ashfield, I read that article ... seems like the problem of theft in the city centre is getting worse. There was a theory that the council's http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=16558 would have a adverse effect on nearby shops, and this could be the realisation of those worries?
The tagging policy can hardly make for good public relations for Tesco, especially considering the number of customers who are going to be wrongly 'tagged' as thieves after staff forget to deactivate/remove the tags from everyday goods. In the Evening Times article, there was an account of a customer having his bags searched because the tag was still on the product when he passed through the exit.
GG.
Posted by: GG 11th Nov 2011, 01:57am
A wee bit off topic, but...
It emerged earlier this year that the out-going chief executive of Tesco, Sir Terry Leahy, 'earned' a total of £12m in his final year before retirement in March.
GG.
Posted by: zascot 11th Nov 2011, 05:44am
Maybe it was a sale "reduced by 50%"
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 11th Nov 2011, 09:03am
GG.
I think you'll find that the Webmaster has opened a specific Off Topic topic for off topic comments.
Meanwhile, back on topic, if all the alarms go off in one of our local shops as you leave, the person who comes to control your bag has a ¤5 voucher handy in case of error.
Posted by: Guest 28th Dec 2011, 10:36am
When you mention people stealing the bacon etc. are you talking about politicians and government employees?
Posted by: ashfield 16th Mar 2012, 07:31pm
I was in Tesco today, on special offer, buy a large pineapple and a honeydew melon together for only £3.00.
Or you could buy them separately, large pineapple for £1.00 and the honeydew melon for £1.97
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Mar 2013, 04:42pm
Ever wonder where the expression Bringing home the bacon came from?
Or Piss poor? ...
All will be revealed
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell . ...... . Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting Married.
Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"
Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof... Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor."
The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.
In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old.
Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat".
Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.
England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive... So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer". And that's the truth....
Now, whoever said History was boring?
The above was taken from the Timeline page of, "The last person to enter parliament with honest intentions was Guy Fawkes" in Facebook.
Posted by: wee davy 1st Mar 2013, 04:58pm
Enjoyed that, THEE.
Your 'Papal Links' thread seems to have gone down the kazzie again. Such a shame. I think a few people need to lighten up, and 'stick with the programme' as Mr Schwarzkopf would have said. The picture of his wee grandson responding to a salute, at his funeral really did choke me, in the paper, this morning.
BFN
wee davy
Posted by: Jupiter 1st Mar 2013, 05:09pm
I was looking over some of the posts and am amazed that it was Nov 2011 this was in the news.Time certainly flies.
Posted by: Macbeast 1st Mar 2013, 08:47pm
" Ever wonder where the expression Bringing home the bacon came from ? "
No, but most, if not all, of these derivations are rubbish. I sometimes wonder where they came from
Posted by: JAGZ1876 1st Mar 2013, 09:28pm
I know what you mean Joop, i would have said it was no more than a year ago.
Must be getting old
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Mar 2013, 10:08pm
You're floggin' a dead horse there Davy ma lad.
Posted by: serabash 1st Mar 2013, 10:23pm
Your 'Papal Links' thread seems to have gone down the kazzie again. Such a shame. I think a few people need to lighten up, and 'stick with the programme' as Mr Schwarzkopf would have said. The picture of his wee grandson responding to a salute, at his funeral really did choke me, in the paper, this morning.
BFN
wee davy
bit off topic davy.
Posted by: Dylan 1st Mar 2013, 10:25pm
5.15pm, how did he know so soon ???????
Posted by: TeeHeeHee 1st Mar 2013, 10:29pm
Maybe he was lookin' for it about then.
When did it go into retirement exactly?