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carmella Posted 10th Aug 2018, 02:54pm
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 10th Aug 2018, 09:53am) *
Dont panic ! only 10% of that is down to Scotland. You might like to know that Prof Curtice reckons
you will have to wait at least 5 years for Indy 2. Of course the Selfie Queen doesnt know yet what
she will tell her applause monkeys in October.



Ah but DJ we await with baited breath, hawd that thought!
carmella Posted 10th Aug 2018, 02:43pm
  Well Jagz it was Petalpeeps who mentioned the wasteland in the first place, all I did was say I don't believe it has been the case or will be the case.

All those industries were lost from Scotland many moons ago - so what else is new. And, yes I get the point about the Yes vote. It's up to those who believed it to answer. I have never believed in promises for what it's worth - regardless of the source.
Dykejumper Posted 10th Aug 2018, 08:53am
  Dont panic ! only 10% of that is down to Scotland. You might like to know that Prof Curtice reckons
you will have to wait at least 5 years for Indy 2. Of course the Selfie Queen doesnt know yet what
she will tell her applause monkeys in October.
JAGZ1876 Posted 10th Aug 2018, 08:46am
 
QUOTE (carmella @ 9th Aug 2018, 10:36pm) *
I believe that some of the things you highlighted would have happened regardless of a yes or a no vote. There are times when all we do is repeat ourselves over and over.

There are things that won't change whether we voted stay or leave.

I do not hold with the 'wasteland' theory at all.


They may well have happened Carmella, the point i was making though was that we were warned they would only happen if we voted YES.

Most things will remain the same after independence, the important things will change though, like making our own decisions on the economy, defence, health, immigration, telecommunications etc.

The "wasteland theory" you mentioned was of an industrial nature as the closure of our heavy industries like steel, coal and most of our shipbuilding proved.
JAGZ1876 Posted 10th Aug 2018, 08:36am
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 10th Aug 2018, 12:30am) *
A united Ireland would be wonderful but secterianism means it aint going to happen any time soon.In any case I doubt the republic could afford to take on the North, they still owe the UK hundreds of millions of punds from when we helped bail them out of the last financial crisis


Yes "sectarianism" another wonderful union dividend, and with Ireland having the fastest growing economy in Europe (and a much higher GDP than the UK) they are on course to meet the 2021 target for repaying the loan.


I wonder when the UK will pay off their 1.8 trillion national debt? unsure.gif
carmella Posted 10th Aug 2018, 08:09am
  Unfortunately, we agree that Northern Ireland has still got too much sectarianism, and will have for more decades to come - such a pity, as it's a nice country.

You're right about the south - no way can they take on the north.
Dykejumper Posted 9th Aug 2018, 11:30pm
  A united Ireland would be wonderful but secterianism means it aint going to happen any time soon.In any case I doubt the republic could afford to take on the North, they still owe the UK hundreds of millions of punds from when we helped bail them out of the last financial crisis
carmella Posted 9th Aug 2018, 09:36pm
  I think sometimes people can't think for themselves. It's never been a problem I've had, but many are easily duped as you put it, many more were not duped.

I believe that some of the things you highlighted would have happened regardless of a yes or a no vote. There are times when all we do is repeat ourselves over and over.

I think Scotland has always been a great wee country, and we should be proud of where we live. I certainly am, it is also a beautiful country. There are things that won't change whether we voted stay or leave.

I do not hold with the 'wasteland' theory at all.
wombat Posted 9th Aug 2018, 07:17pm
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 9th Aug 2018, 12:28am) *
Northern Ireland and Wales do well financially out of the UK and thus have no incentive to pursue
independence


yes.gif its called apathy mate. laugh.gif
JAGZ1876 Posted 9th Aug 2018, 07:00pm
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 9th Aug 2018, 01:28am) *
Northern Ireland and Wales do well financially out of the UK and thus have no incentive to pursue
independence plus like Scotland they can always blame westminster as and when it suits.



Yet according to the last poll support for a united Ireland is growing due to the Brexit farce. unsure.gif

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