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> Tollcross & Shettleston, "Adjusting" my memories
thebardau
post 8th Aug 2003, 05:23pm
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Tollcross & Shettleston.

Both were my main stamping-grounds all those years ago. In fact, they’re virtually the only Glasgow I know. Yes, I’ve been to Kelvin Hall, the Cambuslang Zoo, Hogganfield Loch, even a school trip “doon the watter” to Dunoon & lots of theatres & shows, so I wasn’t exactly deprived. But Glasgow’s changed so much, & there seems to be info on the Web about the West End of Glasgow, yet far less about the East End. I know that the cinemas in Shettleston have gone, & now I wonder whether the same applies to the shops that lined both sides of Shettleston Rd. Eastbank Acadeny’s been rebuilt, Tollcross Park has orienteering, that in itself was a blow-out for me. Is Wellshot Rd school still there, what about the Carntyne dog-racing, are there still little shops in Duke St, Parkhead Cross, it’s all trivia really, but I’m trawling the Internet looking for images mainly – because “a picture’s worth a thousand words”. Any assistance in “adjusting my memories” of the East End would be much appreciated.
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post 11th Aug 2003, 01:37pm
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Hi thebard, shettleston rd looked the same tae me when ah wis hame, so did duke st, but the carntyne dug track is gone as is all of the tenements all around it, but I am sure betty will be able to bring you more up to date than I can, parkhead cross is the same also still a very busy place and of course the forge is now a mall which is very very busy.
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post 11th Aug 2003, 02:07pm
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Ah Gemini, you're the answer to my prayers! I was feeling a wee bit morbid-like cos no-one replied. In fact, I was wondering how one would go about starting something to promote the very unpromoted East End, cos it's near invisible on the Web to ex-pats like me. And I didn't want to hassle wee betty because I'm waiting to hear the results of that scan she's having plus the specialist's recommendation.

What you tell me is like a drink of water to a thirsty soul! As you can see from my post, I've been doing my homework & have managed to find out a few things. It's sorta comforting [in a funny way] to know that Shettleston Rd is still lined with shops, & who knows, maybe Parkhead Cross is still recognisable. Thanks so much for taking the time, Gemini!
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post 13th Aug 2003, 02:25am
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Hi Bard ah'll bring yi up tae date
shettleston rd still has Fullarton's(ironmonger's at the corner of ardholm st and shettleston rd)Calder stores which used to be at the corner of vesaluis st (now at the corner of wellshott rd) the pubs are all still there and that i'm afraid is all thats left of the shettleston you knew. The co-op building still stands but it is all split up into various shops. Between Kenmore and ardholm streets stands the social security offices(vesaluis st now gone). No longer the busy shopping area of by gone days, even the bottle work on old shettleston rd has been demolished to make way for new flats (private) the football park is still there and it has a social club next to it. Wellshott school still stands
St Pauls went long ago ,do you remember that old cemetery next to the state cinema?well its still there dont know if its used but ah've never seen a hearse go in, St Pauls built a new chapel across the road from the old one and on the site of that they built more flats. but thats what left of your old stampin ground sad to say Not even the pawns survived . The church at the other corner of wellshott rd is still there and in use but from there to Edrom st its sheltered housing , well it looks like that to me. Hope you find this informative an ah'll be okay about thursday will let you know about that


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post 13th Aug 2003, 02:47am
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You're a mine of information, betty2 - this is what I wanted to know about. Well, Shettleston Rd HAS changed a lot, I doubt I'd even recognise it now. So the "weekend parade" thingo" must have gone by the board then, dunno if you remember it. Groups of teenage lassies would walk up that strip, dressed in their latest gear, supposedly window-shopping at the wee clothes & shoe shops. But in reality, they were checking out the "talent" in the groups of groups of guys coming the other way who'd be sauntering along real casual-like for a wee stroll cos they didn't have the window-shopping excuse. Glad to hear that Wellshot Rd School's still there, that one's still a fine old building to my memory & I have some pix of it. Edrom St to Wellshot Rd was my main haunt - I can well remember the buskers outside the old Odeon theatre opposite where my mammy was an usherette.

Thanks heaps for that, you're a gem, betty2!
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post 13th Aug 2003, 03:21am
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Yes ah remember the week end parade done it masel fur a short time on a sunday night then sat in the cafe at the corner o fernan st (charlies) fur a hot orange ,then ah found out there wis dancin at the sacred heart on a sunday night so ah took masel there (loved the dancin) still do but nae partner noo at the club ag go tae (the barn on shettleston rd)its aw couples so ah jist huv a swally biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post 13th Aug 2003, 03:35am
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I'm absolutely RAPT that someone else remembers the weekend parade, betty2, cos sometimes I think some of my memories exist only in my imagination. I'd have found out about the dances too - but ma & me migrated to Australia before that happened. My rello's Shettleston cafe was on the corner of Edrom St, but it was pretty small & had absolutely nothing for young folk there. betty2, there's a good chance we've passed each other in Shettleston, you know!
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post 13th Aug 2003, 03:48am
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I'' going back to the mid fifties, i left school in 54 and done my stint on the *parade* for about two years i had a pal who lived in edrom st Lily Milne, she had quite a sad upbringin her mother was an alcoholic she perished in a fire in her own home Lily stayed with her sister most of the time , it was a two storey building opposite the palaceum , and i remember the cafe you mentioned.Do you remember Keough & Savage the clothes shop well its still there moved into the co-op building and its a dress hire shop now mainly the kilt then thewre was Anna'sit was at the corner of the st that led up to the baths which also are now gone. The ol memory workin overtime here rolleyes.gif


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post 13th Aug 2003, 04:05am
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On the north side of Shettleston Road, opposite Carntyne Old Church, there were three pubs. One of them, the one on the corner, was called the Town Bar, I think. The licensee of one of the others was Effingham Deans. Can anyone remember the names of these two pubs?

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post 13th Aug 2003, 04:23am
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Deans was all i ever heard that one called the town bar and the cottage were the names of the other two and all are still serving the public


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post 13th Aug 2003, 04:23am
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Luceo, I'll have to check on which was North. etc, of Shettleston Rd. The only hotel I can remeber on Shettleston Rd was on the same side as the Odeon Cinema & almost opposite Edrom St. It was called The Kentigern, but was known as "The Grapes" due to the sign outside - which I remember as a "real" bunch of grapes [ like a 3D model?]

betty2, YES I remember K & S! Edrom St, well we played there on a "bomb site" - & I seem to mind near the corner of Edrom St & Shettleston Rd [but actually in Edrom St itself], there must have been a dwelling or tenement that had steps leading down off the street, this was where Minnie Dolan lived. She liked her drink, very good-natured lady, we'd chap her door to escape my aunt's wrath. The thing I most remember about Minnie's place was looking UP at Edrom St from her window - & watching the regular "gang" bottle & bike-chain fights from there. There would be two facing lines of guys. shoulder to shoulder, across the street. The second line always came down from Tollcross Park end

And betty, was the "style of the day" then - girls wearing berets with the brim pulled forward in a special way?

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post 13th Aug 2003, 04:31am
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Ed the kentigern or grapes was and still is on tollcross rd next to parkhead bus garage, notice how well ah know ma geography when it comes to waterin holes And the "berets " wae the big hat pins. They came in haundy when caught wae an over amorous lumber biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post 13th Aug 2003, 04:44am
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Omigawd, the Kentigern's still there!! betty2, you might know all the watering holes, only cos I was whisked off to Oz - but your brain cells have stood the test of time far better than mine have! Cos I still see in my mond's eye the "Grapes" being on Shettleston Rd, no Tollcross. Not gonna sign the Pledge anyway. Oh ye're right aboot the hatpins, & we were wearin' white blouses wi a wee black bow or string tie-thing at the neck. The "swagger" coat was on its last legs, didn't last long that one, cos everyone looked pregnant in it.

Thinking about the lassies' fashions brought back a long-forgotten memory, and I wish it hadn't. Graftons - the terrible fire in the city, 13 lassies died.
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post 13th Aug 2003, 06:28am
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Graftons another memory, but i also remember the tragedy of that fire those girls were trapped as i recall behind a fire exit that refused to open.Do you mind ogf Galls they had shops in shettleston , parkhead and duke st and thats where we bought oor nylons, none of their shops are in existence any more, cochrane's ,galbraith's and curley's no furgettin the co-op plenty of shops to choose from considering that the main shettleston rd wisnae really aw that longand it did boast o good chip shops as well . nae need fur hunger in that wee toon rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


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post 13th Aug 2003, 06:43am
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Graftons was a terrible tragedy, it must have been a scandal, I remember now, those poor girls were trapped, they were only 15 yrs old.
Yes now I mind the name - Gall's! And I mind Galbraiths too & of course the Co-op. I doubt you'll mind - you might though - when in the post-war years & everyone still had ration books, well nylons were in short supply. The 15 denier ones [I think]were called glass nylons. And every once in a while, a
"flyman" would stand up in Shettleston Rd on something raised & spruik "GETCHER glass nylons while they last" then he'd vamoose when the polis came. My auntie bought off him - & there was only one stocking in the bag!
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