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Posted by: Rabbie 8th Jan 2010, 11:28am

Astronomers say they are on the verge of finding planets like Earth orbiting other stars, a key step in determining if we are alone in the universe.

A top Nasa astronomer and other leading scientists say that within four or five years they should discover the first Earth-like planet where life could develop, or may have already.

A planet close to the size of Earth could even be found this year if preliminary hints from a new space telescope pan out.

At the annual American Astronomical Society conference in Washington this week, each discovery involving so-called "exoplanets" - those outside our solar system - pointed to the same conclusion: quiet planets like Earth where life could develop are probably plentiful, despite a violent universe of exploding stars, crushing black holes and colliding galaxies.

Nasa's new Kepler telescope and a wealth of new research from the suddenly hot and competitive exoplanet field generated noticeable buzz at the convention.

Scientists are talking about being at "an incredible special place in history" and closer to answering a question that has dogged humanity since the beginning of civilisation.

"The fundamental question is: are we alone? For the first time, there's an optimism that sometime in our lifetimes we're going to get to the bottom of that," said Simon "Pete" Worden, an astronomer who heads Nasa's Ames Research Centre.

"If I were a betting man, which I am, I would bet we're not alone -- there is a lot of life."

Even the Roman Catholic Church has held scientific conferences about the prospect of extraterrestrial life, including a meeting last November.



Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Jan 2010, 02:41pm

It's obvious that there are exoplanets which support other life forms. Where else could the half of the bummers in our governments have come from Rabbie? rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Rab 8th Jan 2010, 04:10pm

'Even the Roman Catholic Church has held scientific conferences about the prospect of extraterrestrial life, including a meeting last November.'

You bet they are! They will have a lot of explaining to do - along with the others!

Posted by: weemagreegur 8th Jan 2010, 04:46pm

Ah hope there is a god that keeps mankind well an truly tethered here on earth tae we learn some basics aboot how tae keep oor livin space healthy. Wid be interested, though in how the various churches wid welcom the competition o different life forms, even different religions if mankind his managed tae get that faur afore. Ah hope we ur forced intae look bit don't touch situation fur aeons yet, at least tae we evolve enough o a brain tae no assume we kin dae as we please wi ither planets and ither lifeforms. Course, it is merr than possible the lifeforms on ither planets, if there ur any will see us as fresh fodder, tainted though we might be.

Bit ur we even gonny be permitted tae look wayyyy oot intae space if we let oorsels be chained tae religions that wid enslave aw oor minds? Whit's the chances o mulsim Britain educatin anybiddy beyond the koran, if it isny in the interests o the mad mullahs?

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 8th Jan 2010, 10:14pm

QUOTE (weemagreegur @ 8th Jan 2010, 04:44pm) *
Bit ur we even gonny be permitted tae look wayyyy oot intae space if we let oorsels be chained tae religions that wid enslave aw oor minds?

What religions do you have in mind that "enslave minds"?

Posted by: Rabbie 8th Jan 2010, 10:27pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 8th Jan 2010, 02:39pm) *
It's obvious that there are exoplanets which support other life forms. Where else could the half of the bummers in our governments have come from Rabbie? :rolleyes


England?

tongue.gif

Posted by: Rab 9th Jan 2010, 01:54am

QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 8th Jan 2010, 10:12pm) *
What religions do you have in mind that "enslave minds"?

Alex. Is that a tongue I see in your cheek? Take your pick! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 9th Jan 2010, 02:19am

QUOTE (Rab @ 9th Jan 2010, 02:52am) *
Alex. Is that a tongue I see in your cheek? Take your pick! laugh.gif

Rab, is that a pick I see in your tongue? you've a cheek tongue.gif

Posted by: Tam blair 9th Jan 2010, 03:49am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 9th Jan 2010, 02:17am) *
Rab, is that a pick I see in your tongue? you've a cheek tongue.gif

T H, After you've picked your cheek wi your tongue, whit then. unsure.gif

Posted by: Rab 9th Jan 2010, 12:33pm

QUOTE (Tam blair @ 9th Jan 2010, 03:47am) *
T H, After you've picked your cheek wi your tongue, whit then. unsure.gif

You Take Your Pick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sstrj15XpWQ&feature=player_embedded#

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 9th Jan 2010, 12:48pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 9th Jan 2010, 01:52am) *
Alex. Is that a tongue I see in your cheek? Take your pick!

Och, I just glimpsed a nice fat trout slipping by in the water, and thought I'd put out a hook to see if I could reel him in...

Just sitting here with my gutting knife and sharpening stone... shick, shick, shick

Posted by: Rab 9th Jan 2010, 05:54pm

Can't wait!

Posted by: Tam blair 9th Jan 2010, 08:24pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 9th Jan 2010, 12:31pm) *
You Take Your Pick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sstrj15XpWQ&feature=player_embedded#

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: weemagreegur 11th Jan 2010, 08:17pm

QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 8th Jan 2010, 11:12pm) *
What religions do you have in mind that "enslave minds"?


Well, ah believe that any religion that insists on wan interpretation o preferred ancient tomes, and will not tolerate any re-consideration or examination of the tenets and dogma haunded doon fur generations, binds its adherents as firmly as any glue. Aye, some religions encourage folk tae question everything, bit the predominant three, Judaism, christianity,and islam, are not open to questions by the uncovinced. Death or torment are great persuaders, but no proof of anything but might for wrong.

If ever there wis a time for real wonder and awe at this wonderful universe, this is it, when we kin see before oor very eyes whit is oot there. Of course, even that his tae be taken on some sort of faith; fur aw we know it is aw smoke an mirrors. Bit seein it is wonderful disny prove how it came aboot. Nae religion ah know aboot admits that we don't know an mibbe wurny meant tae know.

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 11th Jan 2010, 09:20pm

QUOTE (weemagreegur @ 11th Jan 2010, 08:15pm) *
Well, ah believe that any religion that insists on wan interpretation o preferred ancient tomes, and will not tolerate any re-consideration or examination of the tenets and dogma haunded doon fur generations, binds its adherents as firmly as any glue.
Aye, some religions encourage folk tae question everything, bit the predominant three, Judaism, christianity,and islam, are not open to questions by the uncovinced.

The empirical evidence is against the notion that adherents are firmly bound to the religion because it will not tolerate examination of the tenets of the faith. If it were true, you would not be able to explain why it is that church attendances and memberships are falling. I have no experience of Judaism or Islam, but the tenets of Christianity are regularly examined and re-considered ; the practice of Christianity in the twenty-first century is in many ways different from that of even a hundred years ago. If Christianity did not admit different interpretations, there would be only one stream of Christian thought and perspective, and this is patently untrue ; the empirical evidence is against your argument.

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Death or torment are great persuaders, but no proof of anything but might for wrong.

What do you have in mind as "death or torment"?

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Nae religion ah know aboot admits that we don't know an mibbe wurny meant tae know.

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Posted by: weemagreegur 13th Jan 2010, 02:30pm

Last wan first. Dae ye kno o any religon that admits that they don't know if there is a god, or that they don;t know its rules an regulations, or that even admits they might well no be equipped tae know, or entitled tae know these things.

Noo, ma remembrance o biblical lore is rusty, bit did ah no read that god created death and torment tae punish the two pets in the gerdin who wur naive enough tae believe a talkin snake? Ah think ah'd believe a talkin snake right noo if wan appeared ,bit then ah know better, fur ah hiv experience o lots o ungodly folk, particualrly the wans that appear on telly promisin this an that in the name o some version o the biblical god.

Noo, why a god o total goodness could even think up death, pestilence, eternal torment, an aw the ither things that ur blamed on Adam an Eve, ah widny know,widny think these things wid cross his mind when a wee skelp on the erse wid hiv sufficed. Bit the things god inflicted upon Adam an Eve ,(accordin tae the bible)fur believin the talkin snake didny stoap there, did they? It it seems aw the animals an plants must hiv been included in his rage, fur humans ur no the only wans that get sick an die. Mibbe it wis the snake's fault.

As tae the original theme o the topic. Ah sincerely hope that afore we contaminate ither planets wi oor foul weys, we come tae understaun that there is a lot that we don't know. Ah hope we come tae the conclusion that nane o the so-called holy books is the word o any god, unless it is a mischievous wan that is haudin its sides laughin at oor antics. Sad tae say, ah think we will kerry the virus o religion wi us, though which wans will be hard tae tell.

Posted by: weemagreegur 13th Jan 2010, 05:34pm

You are right,Alex, the practice of christianity his certainly chinged ower the last century, as folk rethink the immutable word of god, Sno the word that his chinged, it is the interpretation, eh? Nae hame confinment fur modern day Galileos these days, bit certainly an interference wi their right tae introduce newer theories aboot how the earth and mankind came aboot, especially when it disny jive wi the biblical lore,or the remnant beliefs o ancient men.


Religion is a relic o ancient man's meanderin mind. It should be open tae interpretation, bit few ur open enough tae profess they got it wrang. People ur free tae haud dear whitever religion they choose, bit when they insist on imposin it on hale societies, then they hiv tae resort tae silencin those they deem too threatening.

The crusaders believed in might for right, bit right wis their version o right. Different versions or right aroon noo, causin jist as much trouble, if no merr, as the risin radical islamic empire proves. Might fur wrang, in ma opinion. Maist religions ur enforced by fear. Fear o offendin the big god, who his tae be adored or appeased or he will dae horrible things tae us. No much different than any pagan god, really, if his options ur love him or burn in hell, eh?

Is it too hard tae believe that we don't know why we ur here, an mibbe it's jist as well? Oor curiousity might be insatiable, and lauunches us oot intae space tae explore the universe. Bit dae we really need tae takeoor auld beliefs alang wi us tae contaminate the rest o the universe? We don't hiv tae make up fairytales any merr aboot entities we know nothin aboot. It is honourable tae admit ye don't know, and ye don't think any o the auld lore is anythin merr than the musings o simple, paternalistic folk tryin tae puzzle the world oot. They canny aw be right, bit they kin certrainly aw be wrang.

So, kin we no jist relish the wonder withoot turnin it intae a big scary mosnter that his tae be appeased or it's gonny get ye?

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Jan 2010, 12:22am

Weemagreegur, ye remin' me o' that wee jooker fae the toon rit ran aroon' wi' yon Maheekin, ra last yin, "Hochaye Ranoo".
Ah'd likely huf made a sumlir statemint as yon yin abuv; bit Ah'd uf mibi wordit it a wee bit difrent. tongue.gif

That apart, mate, do you not wonder sometimes just who this Scary Monster really was who managed to get all those ancient post-bronze age people to fear him enough to accept him as the God he said he was.
As far as I can work out he had a whole array of weapons and trix that would have people today, from Werner von Braun to Dubya, creamin' themselves; and that's not to mention genetic manipulation. And if we could accept that, in theory at least, might his race not have possibly had a wee hand in maybe re-directing massive great boulders in this planet's direction as a first step in clearing the way of Dino and co. to make possible - long term thinking - a better chance of survival of a wee primatal-split which with further manipulation might one day post in GG?
Noo, am no' tryin' to form ma aen religin here, am jist throwin' thoughts aboot. No' whit a mean, china? tongue.gif

Posted by: weemagreegur 14th Jan 2010, 10:48am

Och, ah'm as curious as any aboot how we got here an why, bit if it wis wan big omnipotent, how come there ur so many versions? Obviously no omnipotent enough tae communicate clearly, or mibbe no interested in whether humans knew its whys or wherefores.

Every culture dis seem tae hiv its supernaturals, so there seems tae be a need tae attribute the things we canny understaun tae some entity merr powerful than humans kin be. Mibbe there is such an entity, bit oor need tae understaun it leads us aw madly aff in so many directions.

Religion an relic hiv the same root. Remnants o whit, ah wonder? Oor minds ur capable o adaptin, bit o many strap them firmly tae wan religious raft no realisin that closin the mind tae any bit yer ain beliefs kin be an evolutionary dead end.

Nae need tae rely on ancient folklore tae explain the multiverse. Jist as easy tae accept that ye don't know everything, an love graspin the wee bits o understaunin that dae come yer wey. Jist as much joy in acceptin that this might be the only life ye get, as dependin on some folkloric saviour tae chinge yer circumstances.

At this stage in oor exploration o the universe, ah think we ur like weans in a china store. Look bit don't touch! We know oor ain capacity tae mess thngs up. Let's hope we kin clear up oor mess here afore we dare tae contaminate other planets.

Posted by: Rab 15th Jan 2010, 08:53pm

Funny that weemacgregor. As an aside:: My doctor once told me I was 'omnipotent'. Great, I thought, so I went around the town explaining in all the pubs that they should all bow down to me etc etc. My doctor got to hear of this and called me back to the surgery where he informed me that 'Omnipotent was NOT the word I used!'. sad.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 16th Jan 2010, 09:27am

We are here due to atomic, biological, chemical processes and the passage of a fair bit o' time.

Simples.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 16th Jan 2010, 12:00pm

.... or cos a wee sodjer came hame on leave ! biggrin.gif cool.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 16th Jan 2010, 01:44pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 16th Jan 2010, 11:58am) *
.... or cos a wee sodjer came hame on leave ! biggrin.gif cool.gif


Sure is wusnea Jack Tar?!

Posted by: kerry4652 16th Jan 2010, 04:09pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 16th Jan 2010, 10:25am) *
We are here due to atomic, biological, chemical processes and the passage of a fair bit o' time.

Simples.


If ye got proof of that and if so ye better no tell some heid bummers in certain places or you might find yerself waking up wae a horse's heid on yer pillow.

Posted by: Rabbie 16th Jan 2010, 04:51pm

QUOTE (kerry4652 @ 16th Jan 2010, 04:07pm) *
If ye got proof of that and if so ye better no tell some heid bummers in certain places or you might find yerself waking up wae a horse's heid on yer pillow.


Ave woken up to things worse looking than a horses erse on mah pillow but that's another story.

Posted by: kerry4652 16th Jan 2010, 05:09pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 16th Jan 2010, 05:49pm) *
Ave woken up to things worse looking than a horses erse on mah pillow but that's another story.


Ah the joy of alcohol! Ah'm sure there must be a god after all or we would all be tee total with a lot less tales to tell.

Posted by: Rabbie 16th Jan 2010, 10:48pm

QUOTE (kerry4652 @ 16th Jan 2010, 05:07pm) *
Ah the joy of alcohol! Ah'm sure there must be a god after all or we would all be tee total with a lot less tales to tell.


Aye thank nature for Alcohol, it numbs the pain when ye have to chew yer arm aff when ye wake up next to some strange rottweiler and shes lieing on yer arm. Coyote joab.. noo thats wan fur the Pigs' Baur.

Oh time to visit the confession boax again. Tomi, you deaing confessions this week?





Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Jan 2010, 02:21am

Aye, Rabbie.
Ye'll find me in the corner in the Pig's Baur tongue.gif

Posted by: Rab 17th Jan 2010, 09:55pm


Posted by: Rabbie 17th Jan 2010, 10:04pm

Poor sowel, too much créme de meths?

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 17th Jan 2010, 11:51pm

Och, that's no funny. I've got a cataract on my left eye too. sad.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 25th Jan 2010, 11:30am

Wee update from the Astronomer Royal.

The chance of discovering life on other worlds is greater than ever, according to Britain's leading astronomer.

Lord Rees, the president of the Royal Society and Astronomer Royal, said

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"Such a discovery would be a moment which would change humanity. It would change our view of ourselves and our place in the cosmos."


His comments come as scientists gather in London for an international conference to discuss the prospect of discovering extra-terrestrial life. Scientists have been scanning the skies for radio broadcasts from intelligent life for 50 years, and so far they have only heard static.

Lord Rees went on to add.

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But the chances of discovering life now were better than ever.

Technology has advanced so that for the very first time we can actually have the realistic hope of detecting planets no bigger than the earth orbiting other stars. (We'll be able to learn) whether they have continents and oceans, learning what type of atmosphere they have.

Although it is a long shot to be able to learn more about any life of them, then it's tendous progress to be able to get some sort of image of another planet, rather like the earth orbiting another star.



The recent deployment of space telescopes capable of detecting earth-like planets around distant stars now make it possible to focus the search.

And finally...

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Were we to find life, even the simplest life, elsewhere that would clearly be one of the great discoveries of the 21st Century. "I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms that we can't conceive, and there could, of course, be forms of intelligence beyond human capacity, beyond as much as we are beyond a chimpanzee.



Well, I am not so sure how far "beyond" chimps some people are. Still it is only a matter of time before something pops up on the screen. Let's hope it isn't anything like too much like us lot and is a just a wee bit more environmentally friendly and disnea regard us as a "food source."

Mind ye, who in their right mind would want to come to a polluted world thats running out of resources with a booming population.

Yikes...

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Feb 2010, 08:04am

Just when Obama is cutting back on NASA's funding, we get a once in a lifetime picture from that old work-horse the Hubble Telescope. Coincidently pointing in the right direction at the right time the Hubble photographed this cosmic collision between two asteroids travelling at 5 times the speed of a bullet, or two as the case may be, 90,000 000 kilometers away between Mars and Jupiter ... By comparison the sun is 150.000,000 kilometers away (in the other direction rolleyes.gif )
Courtesy of CNN (ahem)


Posted by: carmella 23rd Feb 2010, 07:18pm

I would consider myself to be a logical thinker (maybe others would disagree, however.) But, it has always been logical for me to believe that within our own solar system, earth may well be the only inhabited planet perhaps!

Outside of our solar system, I cannot possibly even begin to think that there is not life out there somewhere - it's just doesn't make sense to me.

I struggle at times even with the notion that in all the outer limits of space, the only planet containing life as we perceive it, is Earth.

I wish I could live long enough to find out if I am right or wrong - but I just don't see any evidence of a positive nature which is beyond reproach, being discovered whilst I live.

Sad really!


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 23rd Feb 2010, 10:33pm

Some amazing creatures have been discovered in the depths of our oceans which was until fairly recently assumed to be hostile to life at such great depths. I think the idea was that the pressure would be too great beneath a depth of 400 meters or that where the Sun's light doesn't penetrate there could be no life. Now it is known that there are life forms which have adapted perfectly to live in the deepest regions of the ocean and other forms which manage quite well without the sun, thank you very much.
So who can say what, if indeed any, forms of life exist under the panzer ice which covers some of the moons orbiting the great gas planets in our solar system. If life could be brought pan stellar to our planet and those of our system then, for me at any rate, it stands to reason that some of the planets orbiting other favourable stars must also be capable of sustaining life of some form or other.
Of course you may already understand that it interests me deeply to read of the Gods whom the Bible explains to us descended from and took with them three prophets (one of whom they shortly brought back) up into the heavens.
They didn't come from out of a clear blue sky but imaginably a bit further out.

Posted by: Rabbie 24th Feb 2010, 10:21pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 23rd Feb 2010, 07:16pm) *
I wish I could live long enough to find out if I am right or wrong - but I just don't see any evidence of a positive nature which is beyond reproach, being discovered whilst I live.


Well speaking as outsider, you Earthlings are strange species.

Carmella, I feel that it is a certainty there are other lifeforms, the distances are vast, the speed of light is a natural speed limit. which would hamper any attempts at travelling these distances in a normal lifetime, ignoring time dilation. The simplest explaination tends to be the best!

Electomagnetic signals from other civilisations would be weak as to be barely detectable. The Human made electomag bubble is expanding since the first radio broadcast, there is natural radio emission from electrical storms, all this jumbled up with all the other natural background noise and what not going make for a lot of work for the egg heads here on earth and the wee green men, dependent on thier level of technology.

I would not be so quick so say that life will not be detected in your lifetime, perhaps we are on the cusp of amazing new discoverys that will change the way we think forever. There is almost certainly life, but it might be just as we know it. Just look how wonderfully diverse life is on these wee lump of rock. We know less about what is lurking in our ocean than we do the back side of the moon.

Also, ponder just how fast technology has advanced in the last 50 years, whats the next 10 going to bring!

Keeping the faith here and keep looking out for "those little green men!" an a don't mean them bunch o' mud splashers frea Parkhied.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 24th Feb 2010, 10:59pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 23rd Feb 2010, 08:16pm) *
Outside of our solar system, I cannot possibly even begin to think that there is not life out there

I wish I could live long enough to find out if I am right or wrong .


Carmella, many moons ago He Who Dance With Cats speak on great GG Boards and tell of Red Sister, She Who Dance With Wee Grey Men.
She Who Dance With Wee Grey Men come from Hopi Tribe.
Hopi no speak with fork tongue like paleface brother.
She Who Dance With Wee Grey Men, live in land far away, many days on Iron Horse.
This land of big chief Sitting Bilbo.
Me ask big chief Sitting Bilbo send smoke signal, pow wow with She Who Dance With Wee Grey Men.
Smoke heap big piece in pipe unsure.gif ...... smoke heap big peace pipe wub.gif
(He Who Dance With Cats speak with forked tongue)

Posted by: Rab 24th Feb 2010, 11:35pm

Reading this thread have decided to make a confession. I know you are not going to believe me when I tell you that I am really a visitor from the planet Tishllub which is one of the major planets of our sun named Navog located 27 light years from Earth in the spiral galaxy of Kitrap. Whatever. I must tell you that I observed you for many aeons from Tishllub before travelling to Earth some 60 of your years ago.
It is only fair to reveal my true image to you all .........

I hope you will not be too upset by my appearance which I understand may be a surprise to you as you are accustomed to the earthling image I have taken on and displayed here in the past.
Yes, there is life 'out there' and I am the living proof. There are many other planets in many galaxies, such as Slabrog, Notlac, Xorbi and Kollop . These are the homes of creatures that you would not recognise as 'human' in earthling terms, but diversely strange-looking to you.Their habits and lifestyle would be beyond your comprehension. I have become familiar with your earthling traits and have passed as one of you for many of your years now and no-one has ever seen my true self till now. Be grateful earthlings that you have had a Tishlluber like me within your community here on Earth but be aware that I can no longer survive your atmosphere and must return to my home and family very soon. Here is my son who is now about 450 of your years old now
I miss him so much.
To conclude. Yes, we are out there and when I return home and report, be assured we will be staying 'out there'


Your friend Bar.

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 24th Feb 2010, 11:40pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 24th Feb 2010, 11:33pm) *
I hope you will not be too upset by my appearance

Big improvement, to tell the truth.

Posted by: Rabbie 24th Feb 2010, 11:41pm

Ahhh so yer that wee guy that pretends to be an Azgard on Stargate, ye've been rummbit, ya wee bugger.

Now where did a pit ma pest control plasma plasma blaster, ach Zapp Brannigan must have it.

Posted by: carmella 25th Feb 2010, 12:23am

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 24th Feb 2010, 11:39pm) *
Ahhh so yer that wee guy that pretends to be an Azgard on Stargate, ye've been rummbit, ya wee bugger.

Now where did a pit ma pest control plasma plasma blaster, ach Zapp Brannigan must have it.


Oh don't tell me you are a big Dr. Who fan tae laugh.gif

You've been rumbled!!

Posted by: Rabbie 25th Feb 2010, 12:30am

QUOTE (carmella @ 25th Feb 2010, 12:21am) *
Oh don't tell me you are a big Dr. Who fan tae laugh.gif

You've been rumbled!!


Who?... <ducks ahint the sofa> Time he had a sex change!

Posted by: Rabbie 25th Feb 2010, 12:33am

QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 24th Feb 2010, 11:38pm) *
Big improvement, to tell the truth.



Aye, ye can pit yer mask back oan noo.

Posted by: Rab 25th Feb 2010, 07:37pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 25th Feb 2010, 12:31am) *
Aye, ye can pit yer mask back oan noo.

You mean death-mask! Those who offend me will regret.

Posted by: auchenshuggle 25th Feb 2010, 09:22pm

your appearance does not upset me rab, it must be you way of easing your kind on us mere earthlings. as many of us look like that on a sunday morning anyway, and then revert back to our "EARTHLY LOOK", is that just to not frighten us so much? sad.gif

Posted by: Rab 25th Feb 2010, 10:03pm

QUOTE (auchenshuggle @ 25th Feb 2010, 09:20pm) *
your appearance does not upset me rab, it must be you way of easing your kind on us mere earthlings. as many of us look like that on a sunday morning anyway, and then revert back to our "EARTHLY LOOK", is that just to not frighten us so much? sad.gif

I note what you say Fat One - you will be spared.
baR.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 26th Feb 2010, 01:11am

Actually baR, it surprises me that the other aliens on the GG boards are shyin' away from this topic. tongue.gif cool.gif

Posted by: carmella 26th Feb 2010, 01:31am

Maybe it's too 'out there' for the others. laugh.gif

Posted by: Tommy Kennedy 26th Feb 2010, 01:50am

I don't know about aliens but I was worried that the 'Omen' had come true:

The Devil getting his son 'Bush' into the White House to cause mayhem in the world!

Posted by: enrique 26th Feb 2010, 02:07pm

I have read through the posted replies to Rabs topic and as well as having a laugh as usual , i also am glad to see the amount of our friends who seem to know where they are going after death , with the usual scoff at religion as if like me we are right and the religious nuts are wrong.
i myself lost my faith along time ago , but i have to put forward how good religion was for me in my early years , coming from afamily of 11 sons and 3 sisters , we had the bad luck of losing our father at a very early age and so my mother very cleverly brought us all up through the church , ie, church twice a day on Sunday , memebers of Lifeboys , BB etc, now this for me taught me right from wrong and that you respect all others, none of us were ever in bother and all had a good upbringing i believe because of the church.
i noticed the point Alex made about the congregations fading , is this maybe also a pointer in why our youngsters of to-day dont seem to have any morals.

Posted by: Rabbie 26th Feb 2010, 06:08pm

Could be a factor, the church, life boys, boys brigage gave me a feeling of belonging, other interests than setting the middins on fire and chasing lassies; teaching whit was right and wrang and no tae be cheeky tae auld grannies and me aunties. Ah was a wee toerag in my time, but nothing like some of the feral kids that stalk the prairies these days, and I am telt that it is drunken girls that are the worst.

Noo, I can believe that, ye ken jist whurr drunken wimen goat it from. Oh bliddy hell no another catfight, used to get them regular ooot side the pub across frea oor house, Friday night's were especially entertaining.

I feel many of todays weans jist don't have a sense of identity or purpose and feel isolated.

The world we now live in is a far cry frea the wan we lived in Glesgea aw them years ago.

Entering recall mode....fitzzz

My first star gazing sessions took place along the banks of the Monkland Canal near the Blochairn Steelwurks. The sky was as black as hell there, nane of this modern light pollution crap we have now, so the resulting star field was breath taking, the longer yer whurr oot in the dark the mair ye could see. If yer were really lucky you would catch sight of a meteor or two, if ye were really unlucky it wid hit you and then be known as a meteorshite.

Took me a wee while to the identify constellations, as they change position over the year, so was some new ones to learn, til they whirled around again. Then came the task of identifying the individual stars and trying to memorise the main facts about them; distance, size, spectal type, parallax, binary, multiple. Oh its gets better or worse, depending on yer view.

I suppose ah was the equivalent of a computer geek these days. I even had the intelligent looking "Corporation Portholes" bandaged with lazzyplasts and nae friends.

I have just heard, geeks are supposed to be burd magnets these days, any truth in that Tomi?

Posted by: Rab 26th Feb 2010, 06:36pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 26th Feb 2010, 01:09am) *
Actually baR, it surprises me that the other aliens on the GG boards are shyin' away from this topic.

Maybe they live in gorbalS ibroX caltoN or partiK! wink.gif

Posted by: ashfield 26th Feb 2010, 07:06pm

Whit's wrang wi' us aliens frae Krap Lissop rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rab 26th Feb 2010, 07:44pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 26th Feb 2010, 07:04pm) *
Whit's wrang wi' us aliens frae Krap Lissop rolleyes.gif

Nuthin - wrang galaxy!

Posted by: carmella 26th Feb 2010, 08:09pm

Beam me up Scottie - this is getting too complimicated for me!!!

Fazers set to malki!

Enjoy 'Taysiders in Space' - it's like hee haw yiv ever seen afore ken?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLxLmFhROqY

Gawn and get it amongst yis!!!!

Posted by: Rabbie 26th Feb 2010, 08:35pm

Right, aff ye go...."thurrs nea air aon that planet, that should keep hur quite, fur a wee bit.<sniggers evilly.>

ENERGIZE!!

Furst Engineer Rabbie; "Jings ma Boab! ah cannea get hur to stabilze, divert mair power frea the dilithium crystulls ya eegits!"

Looattendant Chekov: "Mr Rabbie, I can't get the dilithium crystals to light Sir!"

First Engineer Rabble; "Ach ya giepit dunnerhied, huv ye no tried using Scottish Bluebells??"

Second Officer Scotty. "Wit, pit yer haunds on my bluebells an ye'll be beamed aff to ra sick bay!

Noo, which windea will the Klingons be on tonight?

Must be time to crack a tube.. Rab, come 'ere, gie me yer hied fur a wee meenit.

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Its safe posting here, only loonies come here,

Oh nearly forgoat aboot the new Communications Officer, Second Officer Mr Hughie Mr McPhee. (nearly said Green).
Ah hud tae gie Nyota Uhuru ra boot, she was doing nea good fur ma blood pressure, it was always too low and ah wis passing oot.

Posted by: Rab 26th Feb 2010, 09:21pm


Posted by: Rabbie 26th Feb 2010, 09:23pm

Looks like she can use a whip, get cracking grll!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 26th Feb 2010, 09:45pm

The trouble people have to go to just to get baR tae go hame.
Right baR, Kennedy Space Centre 5th April, weather permitting, Big Tommy's bringing yer case. Ticket at the desk. No liquids over 100ml.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQVA1e9RJzM&feature=youtube_gdata

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 27th Feb 2010, 09:43am

Some interesting space shuttle Endeavour's STS 130 Mission video takes by Endeavour's crew. Loved the shadow of Endeavour cast onto the ISS by the rising sun and the reflection on the ISS which looks like a star.
The first video contains takes from day 13.
The second is prior to return to Earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY3U5U-gO6A&feature

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWdjte5Ttko&feature=youtube_gdata

Posted by: Rabbie 27th Feb 2010, 10:14am

Only 4 more scheduled Scuttle missions to go.

Once the wee project is over with they are giving the engines away fur free, all you need to do is pick it up and take it hame at yer ain expence.

Widnea like to see the gas bill fur using them, 6 million poonds o' thrust uses a fair bit of juice.

Posted by: Rab 27th Feb 2010, 06:15pm

Earthling toy!

Posted by: Rabbie 27th Feb 2010, 07:56pm

Lets see yours, ya bugeyed threehiedit monster.

Then again, in the name of all that is decent, pit it awa, ye'll have awe oor earthling lassies laffing at it.

Posted by: Rab 27th Feb 2010, 08:36pm

I weep for you who have no home planet to look forward to return to.
(is that too many 'to's?)
I met your Queen today - I tried to say 'Hello' - she was pleased to see me, I think! (Her hat resembled something familiar on Kitrap)




raB
xxxxxx to all the lassies.

Posted by: Rabbie 27th Feb 2010, 10:37pm

Disnea look like ONE was impressed!

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Telt ye.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 28th Feb 2010, 01:02am

Is givin' up the same as givin' in? unsure.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 28th Feb 2010, 01:22am

Noo goat a clue, ask me wan on small particles.

Oh on the subject of lager <sp> matters CERN has forked oot and payed their very late lecky bill, They are now live and are cranking up the ultimate black hole genny!

Bar, yer time is up. Take a lift hame afore we break it again, please.

Concede we tefal heidit Earthlings are superior, or Prof "Microcwave" McPhee will sending yer lot back hame and send yer phone bill to the ethernet polis.

Posted by: Rabbie 2nd Mar 2010, 06:33pm

Now then just when you thought it was safe.

A new discovery. Water ice on the Moon!

Straight from our correspondant in the Beeb.

Der .. dit..dit..dit...

QUOTE
A radar experiment aboard India's Chandrayaan-1 lunar spacecraft has identified thick deposits of water-ice near the Moon's north pole.

The US space agency's (Nasa) Mini-Sar experiment found more than 40 small craters containing water-ice.

But other compounds - such as hydrocarbons - are mixed up in lunar ice, according to new results from another Moon mission called LCROSS.

The findings were presented at a major planetary science conference in Texas.

The craters with ice range from 2km to 15km (one to nine miles) in diameter; how much there is depends on its thickness in each crater. But Nasa says the ice must be at least a couple of metres thick to give the signature seen by Chandrayaan-1.

Dr Paul Spudis, from the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, estimated there was at least 600 million metric tonnes of water-ice held within these impact craters.

The equivalent amount, expressed as rocket fuel, would be enough to launch one space shuttle per day for 2,200 years, he told journalists at the 41st Lunar and Planetary Science Conference.

What all these craters have in common are large areas of their interiors that never see sunlight.

Extreme cold

Temperatures in some of these permanently darkened craters can drop as low as 25 Kelvin (-248C; -415F) - colder than the surface of Pluto - allowing water-ice to remain stable.

"It is mostly pure water-ice," said Dr Spudis. "It could be under a few tens of centimetres of dry regolith (lunar soil)."

This protective layer of soil could prevent blocks of pure ice from vaporising even in some areas which are exposed to sunlight, he explained.

In February, President Barack Obama cancelled the programme designed to return Americans to the Moon by 2020.

However, Dr Spudis said: "Now we can say with a fair degree of confidence that a sustainable human presence on the Moon is possible. It's possible using the resources we find there.

"The results from these missions, that we have seen in the last few months, are totally revolutionising our view of the Moon."

Chandrayaan-1 was India's contribution to the armada of unmanned spacecraft to have been launched to the Moon in recent years. Japan, Europe, China and the US have all sent missions packed with instruments to explore Earth's satellite in unprecedented detail.

In Nasa's LCROSS mission, a rocket and a probe were smashed into a large crater at the lunar south pole, kicking up water-ice and water vapour.

Spectral measurements of material thrown up by the LCROSS impact indicate some of the water-ice was in a crystalline form, rather than the "amorphous" form in which the water molecules are randomly arranged.


"There's not one flavour of water on the Moon; there's a range of everything from relatively pure ice all the way to adsorbed water," said the mission's chief scientist Anthony Colaprete, from Nasa's Ames Research Center.

"And here is an instance inside Cabeus crater where it appears we threw up a range of fine-grained particulates of near pure crystalline water-ice."

Overall, results from recent missions suggest there could be several sources for lunar ice.

One important way for water to form is through an interaction with the solar wind, the fast-moving stream of particles that constantly billows away from the Sun.

Space radiation triggers a chemical reaction in which oxygen atoms already in the soil acquire hydrogen nuclei to make water molecules and the simpler hydrogen-oxygen (OH) molecule. This "adsorbed" water may be present as fine films coating particles of lunar soil.

In a cold sink effect, water from elsewhere on the lunar surface may migrate to the slightly cooler poles, where it is retained in permanently shadowed craters.

Scientists have also reported the presence of hydrocarbons, such as ethylene, in the LCROSS impact plume. Dr Colaprete said any hydrocarbons were likely to have been delivered to the lunar surface by comets and asteroids - another vital source of lunar water.

However, he added, some of these chemical species could arise through "cold chemistry" on interstellar dust grains accumulated on the Moon.

In addition to water, researchers have seen a range of other "volatiles" (compounds with low boiling points) in the impact plume, including sulphur dioxide (SO2) and carbon dioxide (CO2).

The results from the Mini-Sar instrument are due to be published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. The team is currently analysing results for craters at the Moon's south pole.


Now then, I wonder if it makes good whiskey?

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Mar 2010, 07:31pm

Well I'll drink tae that, Rabbie.

Posted by: Rabbie 2nd Mar 2010, 10:55pm

Would bring a different meaning to "moonshine."

It's a very interesting development, be interesting to learn what further analysis of the water-ice will reveal.

Goes to show that water exists and can form outwith Earth, water one of the key building block for life, as we know it.

So this is quite a wee revelation and calls for a wee swallie or three.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Mar 2010, 10:59pm

But we've already suspected that water exists on one or two other moons in this system when not on Mars too.
Still, Rabbie, nice idea wi' the moonshine. tongue.gif

Posted by: carmella 2nd Mar 2010, 11:03pm


Moonshine LOL - and here's wan playing golf, then he meets up wi awe the rest at the clubhoose furra wee nip of moonshine laugh.gif clubhoose!!!!!!
Come in Number Five yur time's up get yi tae the 19th the noo!!

Posted by: Rabbie 2nd Mar 2010, 11:10pm

Aye Tomi, suspected. Now we have proof, small moves we will get there, eventually.

There is plenty of geological evidence that water was abundant on Mars, so they are up there scraping and poking around tae see wit they can dig up. Might get more than they bargain fur.

Think one of the rovers is jist aboot knackered, wan of the wheels is jiggerit and it's limping around on the others, dragging the died yin aroond in doing so it revealed, by accident rather then design a white like substance under the soil.. not sure if it was silica or ice. Ain't it funny how many discoverys are by accident?

The other wan is prolly had it too, it's going to be stuck in the Martian winter so will be inactive due to nea sunshine. Bit like me, I need to bask in the sun for a few hours jist tae warm up. It is thought it won't make it through it, nea heating allowance up there, yit.

Oh, an some bampot in mission miscontrol who was operating it nearly drove the buuger oer a big cliff intae a even bigger crater. Now, that wid be a first, getting done for being drunk in remote control o' a Martian Rover.

Jist cannea get the staff, should have given him some ROV training oot on the rigs.

Posted by: Rabbie 2nd Mar 2010, 11:26pm

Carmella, did you ever see footage of Alan Shephard during the Apollo 14 mission having a wee knock at golf during a 2 day holiday on the Moon?

"Golf, a good walk ruined." Mark Twain.

Never a truer word.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 2nd Mar 2010, 11:41pm

That was a joke wi' the controller, but it's always been the same wi' hangar pilots. Truth be said Rabbie they really have had a lot of luck wi' the Rovers; lasted a lot longer than planned and sent back some wonderful shots.
Not exactly Ferraris either at the pace they go. definitely got their money's worth out of them. Remember the one that bounced out of orbit and the other that they lost in space. Didn't look too rosy at the beginning at all but I was really pleased with their success wi' these two.
They were good ol' times for the ro-vers:- (not by Bob Dylan tongue.gif)

Posted by: Rabbie 2nd Mar 2010, 11:54pm

Aye Tomi, they certainly got a lot of info, few hiccups alang the way but with the technology and involved thats to be expected.

They never did find that wan floating aroond, bit careless that ha ha. Noo all wee need is get somewan up there and look for the damned thing.

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 3rd Mar 2010, 12:27am

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 2nd Mar 2010, 06:31pm) *
Now then, I wonder if it makes good whiskey?

Whiskey? Whiskey?

What the hell's that?

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 3rd Mar 2010, 12:55am

That's that gargle you use when you've brushed your teeth in the morning ... tae get rid of that funny taste tongue.gif

Posted by: carmella 3rd Mar 2010, 01:06am

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 2nd Mar 2010, 11:24pm) *
Carmella, did you ever see footage of Alan Shephard during the Apollo 14 mission having a wee knock at golf during a 2 day holiday on the Moon?

"Golf, a good walk ruined." Mark Twain.

Never a truer word.


Oh fine and well I do Rabbie - just like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yNIMtagHck

Posted by: Alex MacPhee 3rd Mar 2010, 01:08am

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 3rd Mar 2010, 12:53am) *
That's that gargle you use when you've brushed your teeth in the morning ... tae get rid of that funny taste

Ah, I'm with you now. Jack Daniels Old Tennessee Mouthwash, at Sainsbury's, in the dental hygiene aisle.

Posted by: Rabbie 3rd Mar 2010, 02:30am

QUOTE (Alex MacPhee @ 3rd Mar 2010, 12:25am) *
Whiskey? Whiskey?

What the hell's that?


Mispelt/misspelt Whisky. Ah gie up!

<hings heid in abject shame> and takes another 1000 lines.

Thank ye lords for the cut n paste and a decent printer.

Slight downside to this, have ye seen the price of printer inkage? It's that bad I have get the weans to run it off on their collage allowance.

Well, got to get something back oot the lil darlings <not>. Cost us a ruddy bomb and grey hair, wrinkles, sleepless nights.

Posted by: Rabbie 3rd Mar 2010, 02:35am

Thats the one Carmella, good shot.

Looks rather akin to a budget James Bond movie known as Moonraker. Ah'll have a word with Mr Drax aboot that.

Posted by: carmella 3rd Mar 2010, 09:22am

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 3rd Mar 2010, 02:33am) *
Thats the one Carmella, good shot.

Looks rather akin to a budget James Bond movie known as Moonraker. Ah'll have a word with Mr Drax aboot that.



Aye Rabbie - the Director of Moonraker copied it laugh.gif

Posted by: enrique 4th Mar 2010, 12:01pm

I am taking this opportunity as we are on our space shuttle to make a request for anyone who had the same experience as me, the reason i am asking is because i never used to speak of it , until one night i commented on my sighting of alien space craft of a type, and to my surprise found that other people in the discussion had the same sighting on the same day.
Right, here it is and nae laughin
The year was 1972, and about 1500hrs, i had the strange feeling of everything stopping and above me in the sky was a fleet of alien craft , the only way i can describe them were that they looked like giant soap bubbles , you know the ones when you were a kid you would try and ease as big and long as you could, they even had that wobbly look, then a few minutes later everything went back to normal
Any ideas ,
by the way as i was writing this my computer kept miss spelling , is this someone or something trying to stop me telling of my discoveryyy.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Mar 2010, 12:10pm

Were you able to determine if these soap bubbles had rows of rivets along the sides? Don't fret none about your computer tampering with your written word. Mine does worse than that ... mine puts red wavy lines all through my messages (Rabbie might be able to explain that) tongue.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 4th Mar 2010, 12:39pm

QUOTE
mine puts red wavy lines all through my messages (Rabbie might be able to explain that) tongue.gif



In my professional incapacity, I would suggest impaired vision due to excess alcohol.

Also, alien technology employs rivetless technology, they have moved on frea balsa wid, and plastering dish cloots wi dope.
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Posted by: Dylan 4th Mar 2010, 09:36pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 3rd Mar 2010, 02:28am) *
Mispelt/misspelt Whisky. Ah gie up!

<hings heid in abject shame> and takes another 1000 lines.

Thank ye lords for the cut n paste and a decent printer.

Slight downside to this, have ye seen the price of printer inkage? It's that bad I have get the weans to run it off on their collage allowance.

Well, got to get something back oot the lil darlings <not>. Cost us a ruddy bomb and grey hair, wrinkles, sleepless nights.



Do not worry Rab, Jack Daniels is Whiskey. wink.gif

Posted by: Rab 5th Mar 2010, 05:51pm

QUOTE (Dylan @ 4th Mar 2010, 09:34pm) *
Do not worry Rab, Jack Daniels is Whiskey. wink.gif

Ahem! - there is only one Rab on this forum. I do not wish anyone to confuse me! laugh.gif

Posted by: carmella 5th Mar 2010, 07:31pm

QUOTE
Ahem! - there is only one Rab on this forum. I do not wish anyone to confuse me! ..
...Dylan...... wash your mouth out - we only have one Rab on this forum, but the Rab and the Rabbie are both OK guys.

Rabbie is the newest wan whereas Rab has been aroon for many a year LOL she says chuckling. laugh.gif

Rab how could any of us confuse you with Rabbie schnookums? Rabbie is the intellectual wan...

Posted by: Rabbie 5th Mar 2010, 08:12pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 5th Mar 2010, 07:29pm) *
Rab how could any of us confuse you with Rabbie schnookums? Rabbie is the intellectual wan...


That telt him Carmella!

Flattery will get ye everywhere, Carmella ah lubs joo too. Keep it up, ah likes it.

Crivens, jist a wee meenit, ah've goat someit stuck in the dubble doors, ach it's only mah hied.

Nea worries Rab, there nea confusing the whiff ye leave hinging aroont the place. Auld peppermints, horse liniment and vick. Ah hud a mate called Vick, he goat right up ma nose after a while.

Right, fur the uninitiated and/or unwary or jist the plain doo lally.

Rab is the auld soor, pucker faced peppermint sooker wi a OAP bus pass, electric buggy with economy use/ predecimal coin slot, pile o' tartan lap rugs an stoaters aroond wi a dopey, slobbering labrador for the fondling of.

Rabbie theets moi, is prolly no goona make it tae mah bus pass dotterage efter that wan.

Right, which wan o' joo rabble cawed me a lassie, dea ah huv tae get my kilt oot?

It's enough to scare my cats and the local Valley Commandos, must be the tartan.

Posted by: carmella 5th Mar 2010, 08:32pm

That's a great wee Scottish expressing there Rabbie, I bet it's years since oor Rab heard that wan; " pucker faced peppermint sooker " laugh.gif tongue.gif

come oot, come oot Rab where yi the noo? And here's me flattering Rabbie, hurry up or you'll miss it!

Posted by: Dylan 6th Mar 2010, 12:05am

QUOTE (Rab @ 5th Mar 2010, 05:49pm) *
Ahem! - there is only one Rab on this forum. I do not wish anyone to confuse me! laugh.gif


Duly noted wub.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 6th Mar 2010, 01:37pm

QUOTE
Just a thought. How do we know Einstein was a genius, when most people haven't the slightest idea what he was on about. And a theory is a theory and therefore we dont know whether he was right. Right??



Well no quite, I will jist breifly hit on time dilation as a practical example that Einstien was correct.

Pull up a sandbag, this may take a while.

Breifly,

Time dilation is real and can be measured and has been measured many times during space flights using synco atomic clocks. Wan on the ground and wan on the flight vehicle.


Furthermore, the figures involved fit into Einstiens time dilation equation very nicely, whch goes to strenghten the "theory."

In other word, time dilation is a function of velocity!





This function is easy enough to understand with the aid of this wee graph.

In more formal prose, jist for a bit more depth so the geeks are not left in the dark.

Time dislocation or dilation is a natural phenomenon predicted by the special theory of relativity in which the passage of time in the frame of reference of a moving object slows down as the object approaches the speed of light. Chew on that for a few mins and let it sink in.

Effectively, this makes it possible to spend energy to buy time!

Time dilation has been experimentally confirmed using cesium atomic clocks that can measure extremely small periods of time.

On return to Earth, the clocks are compared, atomic clocks being very accurate, right?

Guess wit?

They are a few milli secs oot o' synch, the Earth based clock being slighty ahead of the spacecraft clock.

This effect can even be measured on aircraft, really it can!

The simple implication of this is that time is relative to velocity nd the faster you travel relative to another body the rate o passage of time slows. Someit like that, ha ha.

A potentially important consequence follows for future interstellar flight, Mr. O'Bama and co permitting. By traveling fast enough, an astronaut can reach any destination within a specified amount of time.

Shesh, a'll noo try to show how this works with the aid of a table with results calcualted using the time dilation formula shown earlier.

The table below gives the travel times, as measured by onboard clocks, to Arcturus, a no so wee start located only 36 light-years or 11 pasec from the Sun, for a vechicle traveling at various speeds, given as a fraction of the speed of light [c].


Travel times to Arcturus, onboard.

Velocity [c] Travel time [years]
0.1 - - - - - 358.2
0.5 - - - - - - 62.4
0.9 - - - - - - 17.4
0.99 - - - - - - 5.13
0.999 - - - - - 1.61

Sorry aboot the mess o' that table. Cannea format Excel right on here.

Martin can ye pit more editing functions on? Even TAB disnea work. Ah promise ah willnae break them. "grins."

Impressive Starfox, now we need your help!

Now imagine the human problems which would ensue from time dislocation. We can now introduce the twin dilemma analogy.

Take this wee scenario~

Yer marching orders have come in, so aff you go on a quick wee jaunt to save the world from General Zodemall, you tearfully wave cheerio to your twin.
A year passes by onboard for the return trip to say, Siruis. You return to Earth having had yer erse severely kicked and in yer self pity, you fail to notice that yer twin is now auld enough to be yer faither.

Tell ye wit, weirder things happen in this hoose.

Oks, for those of you who are still awake, you may hopefully see that time dilation has little effect other than that of velocities close to c, speed of light. That it does not crank in till about c is approx 90%. Since we cannot travel at this velocity, the effect is almost inperceptable in daily life and goes unnoticed.

That does not mean it does not exist. Remember not so long when Rab, Tomi, Tommy, Wee Tommy, Sir Alex and countless others whurr tottie wee weans, the wurld wus flat and Jurassic Park was a scary reality.

To date astronauts havnea pit in an official claim for overtime, maybe naewan at NASA has telt them aboot this little known effect.

Lads and lassies, that concludes todays helping o' drivel. I hope you have enjoyed the wee lecture and haste ye back fur mair.

Posted by: ashfield 6th Mar 2010, 02:20pm

For goodness sake Rabbie I just wanted to know if the next bus was on time huh.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 6th Mar 2010, 02:23pm

Nea bother, here ye are.

http://www.nationalexpress.com/home.aspx

Posted by: Dylan 6th Mar 2010, 02:56pm

Sorry to contradict you " Rabbie " but I am afraid you have grossly misinterpreted Einstein's time dilation with your simplistic analysis which I suspect you plagerised from Flash Gordon.

I would put you right but I am going down the Pub.

Will be back in a millenium when I will explain.


Posted by: Rab 6th Mar 2010, 08:14pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 5th Mar 2010, 07:29pm) *
...Dylan...... wash your mouth out - we only have one Rab on this forum, but the Rab and the Rabbie are both OK guys.

Rabbie is the newest wan whereas Rab has been aroon for many a year LOL she says chuckling. laugh.gif

Rab how could any of us confuse you with Rabbie schnookums? Rabbie is the intellectual wan...

You mean the King of Copy and Paste? The one who spends hours in the Art Galleries studying the composition of the nudes? Gordon Browns advisor on nuclear policy? The Laird of Toonheid and Keeper of the Queens Lavvy Rolls? That Rabbie? He's harmless enough when blootered but a dangerous man to cross when sober. ohmy.gif You are an attractive lass Carmella and I wouldn't want you to be attracted by that wan - watch him!

Posted by: Rabbie 6th Mar 2010, 08:41pm

Am rarely shober, so yer awe safe. Fur noo, I am working on building a nuclear fall out proof lavvy for KP and my mate Gorby Broon. In the event of the likely we will awe share the same hovel. Any spare useless parts you invent will be accepted Mr Dixon, I am sure my fellow cohabitees will be most grateful.

Ms Glasowgrll and Sir Alex Noprisoners will see to the legal frameverk, Ms Heather vill see to the invoices and VAT returns. Sweet Auntie Carmella is oor PR and discipline expert, any problems...

Who ya goona call!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4uxIo4t7xM

Buggerit, noo I am confused, am aff tae jin the surface.. umm circus even.

Fur mah next project, I will pit maself in a roond barrel and figure oot how to go fur a pee in the corner, see you around.

Noo then Rab, there is no romantic connection between my Dear Auntie Carmella and myself, we are plutonic, in other wurds solid friends.

I'll be watching you, Mr Dixon!

Posted by: Rabbie 6th Mar 2010, 09:08pm

QUOTE (Dylan @ 6th Mar 2010, 02:54pm) *
Sorry to contradict you " Rabbie " but I am afraid you have grossly misinterpreted Einstein's time dilation with your simplistic analysis which I suspect you plagerised from Flash Gordon.

I would put you right but I am going down the Pub.

Will be back in a millenium when I will explain.



No need my dear friend, please have a long happy stay in the pub, time dilates wonderfully in such establishments. You may wake up, review the situation and think.. ach bugger it, who gives a toss anyway.

Dylan, my dear fellow, please allow me to direct you to my standard disclaimer, for writing such seemingly trivial pish.

QUOTE
Lads and lassies, that concludes todays helping o' drivel. I hope you have enjoyed the wee lecture and haste ye back fur mair.


Naewans queueing up at the doors, ave nea mates.

Apparently astronomy and humour are not related, all I can say is "Astronomy is looking up."

I do adore celestial bodies, just ask the lovely lassies around here.

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Posted by: Dylan 6th Mar 2010, 09:11pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 5th Mar 2010, 07:29pm) *
...Dylan...... wash your mouth out - we only have one Rab on this forum, but the Rab and the Rabbie are both OK guys.

Rabbie is the newest wan whereas Rab has been aroon for many a year LOL she says chuckling. laugh.gif

Rab how could any of us confuse you with Rabbie schnookums? Rabbie is the intellectual wan...



Well Carmella I was suitaby embarrassed , took note and got it right but did not really understand the severity of my error.

Probably a period of penitence to serve .

Mea culpa. !

Posted by: Rab 6th Mar 2010, 10:19pm

I am now more convinced than ever that 'RABBIE' is really Count Arthur Strong laugh.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 6th Mar 2010, 10:39pm

Too much Radio 4 is no good fur ye Rab!

Ah ken the difference between "Dugberryism" an piles.

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Posted by: carmella 6th Mar 2010, 11:25pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 6th Mar 2010, 10:37pm) *
Too much Radio 4 is no good fur ye Rab!

Ah ken the difference between "Dugberryism" an piles.

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Those [piles] are the things you get when you spend too much time sitting on cold walls laugh.gif So you watch your little bahookie there Rabbie. Now, as for Albert Einstine well he took his place beside the great teachers with the publication of Relativity: The Special and General Theory, Einstein’s own popular translation of the physics that shaped our “truths” of space and time. Much indeed, to be learned.

But Hark Rabbie - you already know this, so I've kept it short.

Posted by: Rabbie 7th Mar 2010, 12:19am

Oh Carmella, for more Alberts in all walks of life.

We have so much potential for good, to irridicate war, pestilance, famine and all such misery.

Something is missing.

Posted by: carmella 7th Mar 2010, 12:49am

Black holes are where God divided by zero. Albert Einstein.

You are so right Rabbie, huge potential still!

Posted by: Rabbie 7th Mar 2010, 04:24pm

Taking aboot potential Auntie, ever wondered how burds on the wire don't get frazzled into cinders?

Ask Leonard when, or if he sobers up.

smile.gif

Posted by: carmella 7th Mar 2010, 07:27pm

Now then, this must be one of the ancient wonders of the world - maybe it's because their wee feet are insulated against electricity charge LOL - heck I don't know Rabbie, Leonard will need to enlighten me on this one.

Posted by: Rab 7th Mar 2010, 07:56pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 7th Mar 2010, 04:22pm) *
Taking aboot potential Auntie, ever wondered how burds on the wire don't get frazzled into cinders?

Ask Leonard when, or if he sobers up.

Thought you'd know the answer to that one Albert! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 7th Mar 2010, 11:21pm

Is it because they have short tail feathers?

Posted by: Rab 8th Mar 2010, 05:30pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 7th Mar 2010, 11:38pm) *
Is it because they have short tail feathers?


Would that not have 'short'ed them out?

I think the answer is because they have no conact with the ground, therefore no charge goes through them. I am no 'sparks' so am just guessin.

Posted by: Rabbie 8th Mar 2010, 05:52pm

Thats right Rab, for a current <flow of electons / charge>, there has to be a Potential Difference (PD), or Voltage. So as long as they don't connect to the deck or across a dissimiliar voltage (3 phase) on the grid, they are fine. Highly charged so thurr wee feathers ruffle up.

Remember playing wi that Van de Graafe torture device in yer physic class?


Form a ring, hold hand, wazz the bugger up tae its going laldy. Nea bother as ye all charge up the same, noo then some bright spark decides to let go of yer hand an ye both get a wee belt.

Also, our wee birdie friends are really quite clever, they have taken to wearing pvc, latex and rubber footware. Apparently, this keeps their wee legs warm in the winter.

Posted by: carmella 8th Mar 2010, 07:27pm

QUOTE
Also, our wee birdie friends are really quite clever, they have taken to wearing pvc, latex and rubber footware. Apparently, this keeps their wee legs warm in the winter.

I absolutely knew it had to be this - makes perfect sense, especially with the winters we get nowadays. oh look is that over yonder no a flying pig....lookie here

Is it my imagination, or is it awfie quiet in here?

Posted by: Rab 8th Mar 2010, 08:21pm

I made pals with this burd today down at the harbour. Maybe I should have asked her/him? AC/DC?


Posted by: Rabbie 8th Mar 2010, 09:12pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 8th Mar 2010, 07:44pm) *
I absolutely knew it had to be this - makes perfect sense, especially with the winters we get nowadays. oh look is that over yonder no a flying pig....lookie here

Is it my imagination, or is it awfie quiet in here?



It was Auntie, but that Rab wan just turnuped after having a fly relationship with some bird, an av'e been oot oggling at Mars and logging 2 ISS flyovers, cause I am jist daft like that.

Lovely night out tonight, wee bit nippy aroond the lugs and nae moon, so it's dark and ideal for meteor hunting Had a close call with nature too, one of my kitties was skulking under the trees while I was having a ferret aboot looking for me sunglasses, she jumped and I jumped even higher. Close call.

Right it's time tae thaw oot again, fridge raid, there goes me night vision and focus.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Mar 2010, 09:19pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 8th Mar 2010, 07:09pm) *
Also, our wee birdie friends are really quite clever, they have taken to wearing pvc, latex and rubber footware. Apparently, this keeps their wee legs warm in the winter.

...and their wee short tail feathers don't touch the ground tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: carmella 8th Mar 2010, 09:37pm

It's a lovely cool, crisp night outside. Alas, too cauld for me to feel like taking my wee dogs for a walk. So, sitting here in ma goonie with a cup of coffee at the side whilst doggies are asleep.

I would upload photies if I knew how to do it these days. I used to be able to do this all the time, but as I've mentioned before somehow, I can't do it since my computer was regiggered. I put my driver in for the camera today as I had forgotten in my haste to do so after the rebuild and, I still can't remember how I got them onto the GG Gallery, but I'm in there way back somewhere.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 11th Mar 2010, 06:40pm

The National Aeronautics & Space Administration Logo in preparation for the next Shuttle Flight.


NASA has been responsible, along with other Space agencies, for many Firsts in the history of space exploration.
To commemorate these Firsts National Geographic has recently prepared an article headed
"Milestones In Space Photography." ... Enjoy these pictures.
1845: First photo of the Sun.


1966: First view of Earth from the Moon. by Lunar Orbiter I, from 236,000 miles (380000km)


1968: First colour photo of Earth Rise by Apollo 8 crew.


1969: First photo of human footprint on Moons surface by Buzz Aldrin Apollo II


1972: First full view of Earth by Apollo 17 crew with sun at their backs.


1975: First photo of an other plasnet's surface by USSR probe Venera 9 on Venus.


1976: First Panoramic photo of Mars, 300 degree image, by Viking I


1982: First colour photo of Venus by USSR probe Venera 13 (at 900F & 92x Earth Atmosphere)


2003: First photo Earth from Mars by Mars Global Surveyor ( at 86 million miles away)


2003/04: Deepest Visible Light Photo of Cosmos. by Hubble. ca. 10,000 galaxies in this view.


2004: First photo of an Exoplanet by ESA orbiting a Brown Dwarf star at 230 light years.


2005: First photo from Saturn's moon,Titan by Cassini-Huygens Mission US/Europe.



Details here:- http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photos/milestones-space-photography/#earth-full-view_6125_600x450.jpg

Posted by: carmella 11th Mar 2010, 07:53pm

One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind - sure nuff!! amazing photos.

Posted by: carmella 11th Mar 2010, 10:12pm


Posted by: Rabbie 11th Mar 2010, 10:36pm

Wit lovely eyes ye have, Auntie!

Jist came back frea the World Summit, saving the planet an awe that.

Here is me, the wan wi the "funny het" oan wi all my mates thrashing oot the deal.



Posted by: Rabbie 11th Mar 2010, 10:39pm

Tidy pics Tomi, another wee remember "thurrs someit" oot there.

Am no a very religious sowel, lets say that I am mair "spritual."

"Hic" .. damned crisps again.

Posted by: carmella 11th Mar 2010, 11:36pm

QUOTE (Rabbie @ 11th Mar 2010, 10:53pm) *
Wit lovely eyes ye have, Auntie!

Jist came back frea the World Summit, saving the planet an awe that.

Here is me, the wan wi the "funny het" oan wi all my mates thrashing oot the deal.





You are a lot thinner than I had imagined!!

Talking about images, I absolutely love this image of the Earth taken by Nasa......... This spectacular “blue marble” image is the most detailed true-color image of the entire Earth to date. Using a collection of satellite-based observations, scientists and visualizers stitched together months of observations of the land surface, oceans, sea ice, and clouds into a seamless, true-color mosaic of every square kilometer (.386 square mile) of our planet. These images are freely available to educators, scientists, museums, and the public.

I am also intrigued by http://veimages.gsfc.nasa.gov//1438/earth_lights_lrg.jpg


Posted by: Rabbie 12th Mar 2010, 01:47am

Wonderful image, Auntie. If only we could all see how small, insignificant and rare our precious blue marble truely is, perhaps more would become aware and start to care. Jist don't let Mystic Meg gaze into it then try fill oor hieds with spurious nonsense.

Noo then, as pretty as the city light piccies is, dinnea get me started on light pollution. Well then again, please do.

Light Pollution, this is another subject that needs putting out.

Politicians and politics are not my favourite flavours and I rarely lock gubs with the likes of them., they can twist an turn better than Chubby Checker. However, polution; light pollution as well as noise pollution is were I go to town on them. I have even pinned Mr Blairs ears to the whiteboard on this wan, I can be passionate and still smile.

Gezzus, maybe I should deed poll to Victor Meldrew. wacko.gif

I am campaigning for the return to darker skys, it's working in some areas. Unneeded steets light are going OOT!

Oh we will all be mugged I here some cry, Na. jist mug the muggers, problem solved.

All that light you see in the image is wasted energy. I would suggest what is the point of lighting space? It is only going to attact purple headed people eaters from Vega, they are onto us. Elvis telt me, took over 30 years for his email to get to me tho.

So, so many people are missing out on the wonders of a dark night sky, we dont need a huge telescopes or anything else to observe the natural wonders of the night sky.

A clear, dark sky when the moon is on strike will reveal a velvety darkness, pinpricked with scintillating coloured stars and an iridescent band of beauty, and if ye have a lovely member of the other persuation for company... wit could be better?!

Ye might even see a shooting star or twa to wish on! Jist make the same wish twice.

Posted by: carmella 12th Mar 2010, 07:26am

Rabbie

Now here we go off and running. And, what's more, we will be on topic as we are discussing Nasa and all things spacial.

To see the city lights from space in my last image, yes it is terrific a wonderous sight to behold, as we earthbound people do not often get the chance to see what we look like from afar.

I absolutely have to agree with you on the wasted energy. In the days of gas lamps, this would have hardly flickered out in space, then again, how could we know as in those days there would have been no means to test it out of course.

Look out at the sky on cool crisp cloudless nights and be amazed at its wonder. I love to look upwards on cold clear nights - the sky is absolutely beautiful. If you look down to the continent of Africa and Australia - what beautiful night skies they must be able to see. Look to Europe and the USA in certain sections and all you see are city lights - not quite the same is it.

Nice post my wee nephew Rabbie - keep em coming!

Posted by: ashfield 12th Mar 2010, 08:04am

Sign me up to the ligh abatement society as well. When I get out the city boundary it is just magical to see the sky in all it's glory. Although we still wind up my pal who, while waxing lyrical about a particularly beautiful sky one clear dark night, fell down a hole (naw no a black wan).

A friend of mine lives opposite a small commercial building in a residential area of Glasgow. For "security" reasons they installed floodlights with sensors around the building and one of the lights shines directly at her house. She wrote to the company invoved asking them to do something about it and they politely refused. She then persued it through a variety of council department to find there is no legislation to prevent them lighing up the world.

I think the Galloway forest has become the first "Dark Park" in the UK, and it looks not bad in the daylight as well laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 12th Mar 2010, 08:57am

To really understand light pollution you have to understand just how much of the sky at night that you don't see, even on one of those clear nights. Where I live, on the foothills of the Black Forest where it meets the Rheine Valley we are still roughly 1000 ft above sea level. I drove up to our local mountain a few years ago, complete with binoculars and telescope, with the intention of following a comet for an hour or two, Hale-Tuttle I believe. I found myself a wee spot away from the courting couples in their cars, (behind a nice copse of bushes tongue.gif ) - only kidding ,- but I had my back to them as I needed to be looking to the West. All around me was a thickish mist with the only bit of available sky being that which was directly over head from an angle of 45/50 degrees above the horizon. I waited hours for conditions to better themselves until the course of nature took over and I had to drive home to use my cludgie. ( could have used the bushes, but try explaining that to the border guards who sometimes patrol the area at night for the prime purpose of annoying lovers in cars; demanding to see their IDs when they hardly know where in the car their clothes are wub.gif ... been there, barstewards.)
So I drove home at about close on 5am and, after washing my hands children, went out and stood on my balcony and there to my right at about 40/45 degrees on the western sky, was my Comet in all it's glory.
I had been on a relatively dark side of our local mountain, dark in comparison to the other side, and couldn't see a decent sky because of light smog from Lörrach to my south and Basel to my west and it really was smog
I found a local golf course where on a winters night there are so many stars in the sky it's almost impossible to orientate. Can you imagine having trouble finding the big dipper to locate north? Back on the ground, I gave up the idea of building an observatory on the terrace above my bedroom. Did the drawings, had all the material ready for assembly, gave up. Waste of energy; mine.
Street lamps that shine into the sky as well as onto the ground are stupid ideas.

Posted by: Rabbie 12th Mar 2010, 01:04pm

Haw haw, courting couples in dark spots. Yer a wee bugger Tomi, pitting awe these ideas into my innocent hied.

Weel, jist a quick wee story here, afore am aff oot as some of mah wee Annies "boys". are back from The Afghan. Annie looks after the WOs' and Sgts' Mess doon here; she has adopted them all and visa versa. They have just goat back yesterday having been oot there 6 months.

Thankfully this time they awe made it back! So ah'm aff oot doon The Traders fur a few wee swallies wi them. Great bunch of guys too.

Wan is getting made up tae WO2 getting posted and is trying to palm us aff wi a 52 inch Plasma telly for free, as he wants a smaller wan! Wid need to take a wall doon tae get the bliddy thing in. Weel, we are awe wan big family when the push comes to the shove.

So.. whurr wis ah..

Ah richt, pu' up a sandbag an swing a lantern.

When ah was stationed up at Kinloss, when Pontius's da was a pilot, I decided to nip out for a wee bit of Northern Light gazing.

A good place was jist behind the cricket pavilion aon the "sports" field. Ye'll ken why thats in commas in a min. Maybe ye have guessed already.

So leaping on me untrustworthy wobbly treader, ah made a wonky bee line for the shed. During my somewhat unsteady sojourn, lo and behold I was entreated to the strangest phenonemon known to humankind.

The Twin Globes of Gluteus in a strange form of oscillation, or perhaps recipical motion would describe thus better. I was sorely tempted to park the bike, Billy Connolly fashion. During my close drive by the strange motion ceased. Curious as ever I decided a closer inspection was required, as ye dea wi these things. All for the purpose of advancing scientific knowledge an awe that, ye understand <ahhem>. Richt, moving oan quickly now.

It turned oot to be my pal, Tam frolicking in the gloamin' wi some WRAF, in the middle of a bliddy fitbaw pitch. Of all the places in creation, I ask ye!

Needless to say thay pair whurr the talk o' the NAAFI, an couldnea show their faces in the Pig's Baur for quite some time.

Gezuss, Mary an Joseph <saying 10>. Some of the things you see that yer no meant tae.

Who says astonomy is boring, never a dull moment. Jist dinnea look doon too much, ye might miss something interesting.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 26th Mar 2010, 02:51pm

Replacement for Shuttle ... in the five year gap to come? Take your pick.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/4308242.html






With an eye on Mars, the Constellation concept.

http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/CxEMM_SITE/index.html

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Apr 2010, 11:50am

This year NASA celebrates 4 years of the Mars Orbiter still working away and 10 years of the Chandra X-ray Observatory's fascinating views of deep space pictures and composites.
Here are a few of those awesome Chandra pictures with a wee bit of accompanying data.

Brilliant blue Pulsar wind of the Crab Nebula in the constellation Taurus. Energetic electrons and positrons (anti-electrons) move out from the inner x-ray ring marking shock waves of different forms of matter giving off the x-ray glow.



This image is the production of a composite of 12 observations of a 130 Light year area in the region of the centre of the Milky Way. Coloured spots represent X-ray sources due to Neutron stars, Black Holes, White Dwarfs, foreground stars and background galaxies.



A new look at Stephen's Quintet first discovered 130 years ago and located 280 Million Light Years away from the Earth. 1 Galaxy is seen to pass through the core of another 4 galaxies. The curved light blue ridge seen running down through the centre of the image is X-Ray data collected by the Chandra X-Ray Observatory.



Located above the centre of the Medusa Galaxy (Cat's Eye) is a tidal tail, the hair of Medusa represented by snakes in mythology, formed by the collision of two galaxies. Bright X-rays show that to the left of the hair is a black hole.





Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Apr 2010, 12:22pm

M82: Starburst Galaxy. Normal optical observation shows the galaxy in the yellow-green view. Chandra X-ray observations show 10,000 degree C. Hydrogen gas in organic matter being blasted out of the galaxy.



Cassiopeia A. Remnants of an exploded star from 300 years ago.



RCW86. The remains of a Supernova explosion which was probably the one observed by Chinese astronomers in 185 AD


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Apr 2010, 12:36pm

Composite picture of Cassiopeia consisting of three images: Infra Red image from Spitzer (red), optical image from Hubble (yellow) and X-Ray image from Chandra X-Ray Observatory (green & blue).



M16 (Eagle Nebula) viewed near the central region where stars form inside the Pillars of Creation. Most of the bright yellow and red sources are young stars,


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Apr 2010, 01:11pm

Mars Orbiter in it's 4th year of service has produced some fine pictures.

A thick (2 mile) sequence of ice and dust covers the south pole of Mars. Impact craters that form here (image shows 0.5 mile diameter crater) experience different processes of modification and degradation than those found in rocky areas.



An area in Arabia Terra in the large uplands region in the northern area of Mars thought by it's battered appearance to be one of the oldest regions of Mars.



Barchan Dunes formed when the wind is blowing in one dominant direction, Here severam Barchan dunes are merging to form one larger dune.



A branch of the Cerberus Fossae a series of semi-parallel fissures on Mars caused by faults which pull the surface apart in the region.



A huge sheild volcanoe in Syrtis Major exposes early Noachian rock which scientists place at 4 Billion years old and reckon to be a good location for future exploration.



Noctus Labyrinthus region



There are no dunes on the floor of this crater where Carbon Dioxide Ice forms an uninterupted layer. Dark streaks form on the surrounding dunes as surface material moves around.



Sand dunes with blue grey swirls caused by dust devils which are like mini tornadoes.





















Posted by: TeeHeeHee 20th Sep 2011, 01:33pm

unsure.gif Mind yer Hied Jimmy unsure.gif

Probably a 2 hour warning before satellite re-enters ... somewhere! rolleyes.gif
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/216740/20110920/nasa-climate-satellite-upper-atmosphere-research-satellite-uars-space-agency-6-5-ton-satellite.htm

Posted by: Rabbie 20th Sep 2011, 03:22pm

Rumour control has it that there is a 1 in 3200 chance a peice of debris could clatter somewan on the napper, that's no bad odds at all.

Maybe Murdoch and his demon spawn are in fur a wee visitation.

Wishful thinking I suppose sad.gif)

Survival Intructions for nervous folks wary of falling objects.

Tin hets... OOT!

Tin hets... OAN!

Hied doon Hole, As yer whurr..wait fur eet, POKE!

Erse skywards... POINT. (Be careful whos hinging aroond wi that wan.

Oh, soond the awe clear when its landed!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 20th Sep 2011, 03:55pm

Wi' those odds Rabbie, does that mean at least 3 GG members should get plonked? tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: JAGZ1876 20th Sep 2011, 05:16pm

If Rabbie's odds are right, and since i don't have a tin hat, then i'm off to the kitchen cupboard to look out my big soup pot tongue.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 22nd Sep 2011, 08:20am

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Is it a space invader?
No, it's Superscrap ... coming to a location near you. This week only. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

http://www.space.com/13022-amateur-photographs-doomed-satellite.html


Posted by: Melody 22nd Sep 2011, 09:51am

THH that was great, I've been lost in there in fascination. smile.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 22nd Sep 2011, 01:15pm

Thanks Melody. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 23rd Sep 2011, 09:36am

Chief Warden Hodges 'ere, with yer latest update from t' Bunker.

Get yer hieds doon, and mind yer six. Object re-entry imminent, heading for a politician near you soon.

Here a wee tune to keep yer mins aff it:P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=603aIZwX3uU


"And slowly they drew thier plans against us.".... Oh oh....

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 24th Sep 2011, 01:15am

It's taking it's time and new estimates point to Indian Ocean splash-down ... but that can still change ...

http://www.space.com/13066-falling-satellite-uars-tumbling-reentry-timing.html

... and why.

http://www.aero.org/capabilities/cords/reentry-overview.html

NASA are asking pilots to keep their eyes peeled and to hastily report any sightings during flight. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 24th Sep 2011, 02:08am

<Blink>

What wis that?

Solar flux, who said solar output is constant?

The universe is infinately variable. The only constant is the human penchant for self destruction.

Speaking on which, VAT is coming off ICE CREAM!

Posted by: Rabbie 24th Sep 2011, 02:12am

If any of that space junk lands in yer gairden, dinnea e-bay it. It's more radioactive than that Rab one!

I ken a guid scrapyaird that can use it...NHS

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 24th Sep 2011, 11:06am

NASA reports that the re-entry took place around 05.00 GMT ... just as I was pullin' the covers over my ears ... and the location might be anywhere between Africa and Canada so we'll have to wait to see if there's any update from either Dave or Angel ... if they're oot their beds yet. laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 4th Oct 2011, 09:30am

The Antennae Galaxies as we've never seen them.
This is what will eventually happen when the Milky Way receives a gate-crash visit from Andromeda. biggrin.gif






http://www.space.com/13143-complex-observatory-releases-image.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antennae_Galaxies

The Antennea can be seen in the Southern Hemisphere constellation Corvus ... the Crow.
(Wombatland tongue.gif )

A link to the constellations ...

http://www.dibonsmith.com/menu.htm

Posted by: Dave Grieve 4th Oct 2011, 12:59pm

My daughter and family where in Disney World Florida recently and out of all the theme parks they visited the only one they want to go back to is NASA,
They coulden't stop talking about it
the youngest grandson was walking about with a pair of Mr Spocks ears on for days while I was brought back a United Federation of Planets T shirt laugh.gif

Posted by: wee davy 4th Oct 2011, 07:33pm

Tickled me that story, Dave.

Thank you for posting that big sized one THEE - how utterly exquisite.

Posted by: Dave Grieve 5th Oct 2011, 06:51am

QUOTE (Dave Grieve @ 4th Oct 2011, 02:45pm) *
My daughter and family where in Disney World Florida recently and out of all the theme parks they visited the only one they want to go back to is NASA,
They coulden't stop talking about it
the youngest grandson was walking about with a pair of Mr Spocks ears on for days while I was brought back a United Federation of Planets T shirt laugh.gif


Meant to add my son in-law was blown away by the sheer size of the Saturn five rocket while my eldest grandson who is a genius like other kids his age with a computer and calculator but cant do simple mental arithmetic couldnt believe that all the mathematics needed to get to the moon and back was done without the aid of computers

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Nov 2011, 03:46pm

Got your telescope ready? wink.gif

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/main/index.html

Posted by: odeonclubboy 8th Nov 2011, 04:40pm

i have known for years there were guys in glesca who are deffinately not from this planet....a strange mixture of vp wine and cider and yer in space in no time!!!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Nov 2011, 04:46pm

I had my first space trip when I was a mere lad of 36 years. laugh.gif
Dyin' tae go back. laugh.gif

Posted by: odeonclubboy 8th Nov 2011, 04:51pm

i remember telling a pal of mine about this when i lived in rural cheshire in the 1960's...very posh...he gave it a try with hilarious results (we wre teenagers at the time)

Posted by: Rabbie 9th Nov 2011, 12:33pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 8th Nov 2011, 04:12pm) *
I had my first space trip when I was a mere lad of 36 years.
Dyin' tae go back.


Tomi, try oot Evo-stik or a similiar industrial grade hallucinogenic. blink.gif wacko.gif. Ye'll be in Earth orbit faster than the shuttle 'wi a boax o' bangers strapped to it's erse!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 9th Nov 2011, 12:37pm

Tank sealant did the trick Rabbie. tongue.gif
Ye just had to remember not to walk outboard when ye came oot the wing tanks. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Dave Grieve 9th Nov 2011, 12:47pm

Tilt your head 45degrees and look at this and see if you can see a face side profile.
dont tell the happy clappies they will probably say its god looking down at us. biggrin.gif

[quote name='TeeHeeHee' date='4th Oct 2011, 09:56am' post='3555949']
The Antennae Galaxies as we've never seen them.
This is what will eventually happen when the Milky Way receives a gate-crash visit from Andromeda. biggrin.gif




Posted by: TeeHeeHee 9th Nov 2011, 12:53pm

Left or right?
I tilted 45° downwards and nutted my desktop. laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: odeonclubboy 9th Nov 2011, 12:59pm

we are not alone.............

Posted by: Dave Grieve 9th Nov 2011, 04:23pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 9th Nov 2011, 01:19pm) *
Left or right?
I tilted 45° downwards and nutted my desktop. laugh.gif rolleyes.gif


Right, but dae it before your 3rd or 4th glass. laugh.gif

Posted by: Rabbie 9th Nov 2011, 04:47pm

QUOTE (odeonclubboy @ 9th Nov 2011, 12:25pm) *
we are not alone.............



Now I am getting paraniod. rolleyes.gif

Tomi, on the aerospace circuit, just before the grimrods came into the shed for majors, there was always a pre-major survey carried out.

One of the many things this involved, apart from the usual lenghty pub sessions was assessing the state of the spec weap electrical/armament installation in the bomb bay. The wiring was protected by red plastic convuluted tubing. Naturally, this tubing would fill up with fuel, hydraulic fluid and sea water. You name it, it found its way into the tubing and slowly and surely perished the rubber on the wires. This threatened to be like too much hard work and eat into our VDT (Valuable Drink Time).

The solution to this looming crisis that threatened the safety of the planet and our sanctity of our swally time was quite simple. Remove the tubing, a right pain in the erse and clean the crap off the wiring with a neat solutions of Trichloroethylene (Trich) or Methyl Ethyl Ketone (Butanone) and auld WRAF rags! Now the geeks forgot to consider that MEK is a solvent that loves to rot plastic / rubber based insulation not to mention and yer brain and yer liver and predispose yer sorry erse to a goodly dose of skin cancer. So all being said, pretty good stuff!

As you can imagine in an enclosed space the fumes generated by these cocktails lead to some instant highs and pugnatiousness which generated many a visitation to "See what was happening in the bomb bay" This lead to the reknowned, somewhat spontaneous "Rabbie's bombbay parties." Pull up a plinth, bring yer ain MEK and Trich, join the fun and help the leckies wash the wires. Naturally, this was a popular activity before a Sqn beer call or the mundane daily riggers run doon Kelly's Stables to get blooted efter wurk.

Mind ye, on wan occasion it was pretty embarrassing fur me; getting dragged out the pub by my 4' 10" missus in front of all my mates at 2 in the morning and wi her threatening to set the saft as shite labradoodle on them all, bloody soppy dug was feart of it's own shadow. Nearly 40 years of water under the bridge and I still get the piss taken out me for that one and rightly so.

It's a wonder that any work ever got done and these cabs ever got aff the ground again.

Those upper echelon blue suited shuttle techies in NASA didnea ken what they were missing at Kinloss!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 6th Aug 2012, 07:12am

Rabbie, IVe heard you're a bit of the magic in you wi' the maths so maybe you can work this one oot biggrin.gif :-

First of all, congrats are due to the NASA Nerds for the successful landing of the Curiosity Rover on the Red Planet this morning where the International Fail Rate (hit-or-miss attempts) at time of going to press must be about 50%.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19144464

Now the Maths, Rabbie.
The report said that NASA had to wait 13 minutes for the signal to get back from Mars at a distance of 570 million Kilometers.
Correct me if I'm wrong buddy but shouldn't that be 30 minutes over 570M Klicks considering it takes light 8 minutes to do the mere 150 million (1 AU)which separate Mother Sun from Daughter Earth?
Over to you professor. biggrin.gif

Posted by: wee davy 6th Aug 2012, 10:15am

Sounds like yer dain a weather report, THEE! laugh.gif

What great news about the new Rover.
Its bristling with new gadgetry apparently.

Posted by: Rabbie 6th Aug 2012, 10:26am

Aye, Tomi yer sums are deid right, a wee gold star to stick in yer maths jotter is in the post.

Yet, it wont surprise you that is not always that is not always the case as the distance from Earth to Mars changes constantly, as the two planets travel along elliptical orbits that are not synchronized. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems.

Going by the book, as we always did:p Mars and Earth are closest together when Earth is at farthest point from the sun and Mars at its closest. Think aboot it!

At this point Earth and Mars are aboot 54.6 million km of each other.

That point is said to be theoretical because it has not been observed during recorded human history, no like we have been recording much for very long, and much of it being utter guff like Laddy Gaga and its ilk.

The closest known approach was in 2003, when Earth and Mars were separated by only 56 million km. It was a clear night too, an amazing starfield was slightly out off focus due to the effects of few medicinal ports and guinness.
On the opposite end of the scale, Mars and Earth can be as much as 401 million km apart when they are in opposition and both are at aphelion.

The average distance between the two is 225 million km.

So there ye have it!

Noo, here endeth this years lecture, aff to the playing fields with you all.

Posted by: Dave Grieve 6th Aug 2012, 10:31am

QUOTE (wee davy @ 6th Aug 2012, 12:30pm) *
Sounds like yer dain a weather report, THEE! laugh.gif

What great news about the new Rover.
Its bristling with new gadgetry apparently.

Does it come standard or are they optional extras. tongue.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Sep 2013, 01:25pm

Ah said go, go, go ... Johnny B. Good

Chuck Berry has now left the theater tongue.gif



NASA announces that Voyager 1 has finally left the Solar System after 36 years and almost 19 billion kilometers of space travel ... still boldly going where no man (made object) has gone before.




Read the full amazing story of the Voyager accomplishments here:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1

http://www.space.com/22778-voyager-1-spacecraft-interstellar-space-photo-timeline.html?cmpid=51463011861984

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Sep 2013, 01:48pm

Thanks to Carl Sagan's pleading NASA turned voyager around to take this shot in 1990 of The Pale Blue Dot ... the Earth as seen from 6 Billion klicks (middle of that brown band on extreme right of the 1st picture) thumbup.gif






Posted by: ashfield 13th Sep 2013, 01:57pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 13th Sep 2013, 02:46pm) *
Thanks to Carl Sagan's pleading NASA turned voyager around to take this shot in 1990 of The Pale Blue Dot ... the Earth as seen from 6 Billion klicks (middle of that brown band on extreme right of the 1st picture) thumbup.gif







1990..............ah had the same problem when ah took a spool tae Boots tae get developed rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Betsy2009 13th Sep 2013, 02:06pm

I'm surprised the aliens spotted it.
Well done Carl Sagan.

Posted by: wee davy 13th Sep 2013, 02:11pm

I think its terribly exciting Voyager has at last left 'oor patch'. We are now getting signals from it, in 'empty' space. Spooky.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Sep 2013, 03:21pm

C'mon Davy, there's no such Thing as empty space ... except that wan bitween yer ears laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Sep 2013, 03:23pm

QUOTE (Betsy2009 @ 13th Sep 2013, 02:04pm) *
I'm surprised the aliens spotted it.


That's a good point Betsy.
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Posted by: carmella 13th Sep 2013, 03:59pm

I wonder what it will encounter once out of our space - this should be interesting as I don't think earth is the only inhabited planet in the entire universe - I believe it's the only one in ours. But logic won't let me believe there is nothing else out there, somewhere.

I don't believe in UFOs it has to be said as I think there's a reasonable explanation for many of them, but not all.

Posted by: Ruchazie Rat 13th Sep 2013, 04:45pm

There are always sweeping statements about The Imminent Discovery Of Life On Other Planets. And they`re usually issued around the same time when NASA`s knocking on Washington`s door cap in hand.

And what is this "Life, Jim. But not as we know it"? Germs. Molecules. Microbodes. No ET`s. No Xenomorphs. No nubile, young Benny Hill extras.

In the meantime, get a load of all them wicked Nebula shots. What a desktop background! And it only cost the US taxpayer umpteen billions over the last half century. Why pish all that dough away on schools or hospitals when you can have a great Flick`r account? And, in the interests of fairness, let`s not forget, Teflon non-stick frying pans came out of all that investment...
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Posted by: JAGZ1876 13th Sep 2013, 04:54pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 13th Sep 2013, 03:57pm) *
I don't believe in UFOs it has to be said as I think there's a reasonable explanation for many of them, but not all.


If not all Carmella, then that makes them exactly Unidentified Flying Objects, though not necessarily of an extra terrestrial origin.

Posted by: Rab 13th Sep 2013, 07:14pm

[quote name='Ruchazie Rat' post='3639426' date='13th Sep 2013, 05:43pm']There are always sweeping statements about The Imminent Discovery Of Life On Other Planets. And they`re usually issued around the same time when NASA`s knocking on Washington`s door cap in hand.

And what is this "Life, Jim. But not as we know it"? Germs. Molecules. Microbodes. No ET`s. No Xenomorphs. No nubile, young Benny Hill extras.

In the meantime, get a load of all them wicked Nebula shots. What a desktop background! And it only cost the US taxpayer umpteen billions over the last half century. Why pish all that dough away on schools or hospitals when you can have a great Flick`r account? And, in the interests of fairness, let`s not forget, Teflon non-stick frying pans came out of all that investment... quote]

Another often-quoted myth: TEFLON was patented in 1945! A wee bit before we went into space! Also quoted NASA spinoffs are Memory Foam and Velcro, neither of which had any basis in the space programme, although they may have been used in space. yes.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 13th Sep 2013, 11:14pm

QUOTE (Ruchazie Rat @ 13th Sep 2013, 04:43pm) *
mad.gif :mad mad.gif

Don't be an angry Rat. Without all that research and development we wouldn't have people like Richard Branson settin' us up with cheap space flights soon tongue.gif

Posted by: carmella 14th Sep 2013, 12:06am

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 13th Sep 2013, 05:52pm) *
If not all Carmella, then that makes them exactly Unidentified Flying Objects, though not necessarily of an extra terrestrial origin.



Yes I agree - they are still unidentified but that can cover many things. I may be wrong of course, maybe we have been visited numerous times by extra-terestrial beings.

Posted by: Betsy2009 14th Sep 2013, 08:58am

You can't have any doubts when you read these boards.
Come on - whose going to admit to being an alien?

Posted by: JAGZ1876 14th Sep 2013, 09:34am

QUOTE (Betsy2009 @ 14th Sep 2013, 08:56am) *
Come on - whose going to admit to being an alien?


Unless you want to go to the top of the GCC housing list..........OOOPS wrong thread tongue.gif

Posted by: carmella 14th Sep 2013, 10:33am

i do, however, watch documentaries on the subject because it does fascinate me what people think they saw.

One thing I will own up to, is that some very credible people have explained in great detail what they saw on a dark night out doing their job (police etc) or just returning from a night out - and sober. These people in my opinion were unshakable in what they witnessed, so I wonder if there's something, although not of the et variety. These people definitely saw something.

Posted by: Betsy2009 14th Sep 2013, 10:41am

Things that look like aliens/spaceships in cave drawings?

Posted by: carmella 14th Sep 2013, 11:04am

Another thing which to me is a big mystery also. No-one knows how the pyramids were built, given the tools available at the time, and they also look best if seen from the air.

I went to Egypt in the late 80s and was astounded by all that I saw and not disappointed in any way.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Sep 2013, 12:01pm

QUOTE (Betsy2009 @ 14th Sep 2013, 08:56am) *
You can't have any doubts when you read these boards.
Come on - whose going to admit to being an alien?

Well ... yeah, Ok ... C'mon Wee Davy don't leave me standin' on my own here. laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Sep 2013, 12:06pm

QUOTE (carmella @ 14th Sep 2013, 10:31am) *
... some very credible people have explained in great detail what they saw on a dark night out doing their job (police etc) ... - and sober. These people in my opinion were unshakable in what they witnessed ... These people definitely saw something.


... including our member and friend, Rab - except that he refused to go into great Detail.
C'mon Rab, I know it's the wrong Topic but we'll forgive you mate. wink.gif

Posted by: Dave Grieve 14th Sep 2013, 12:12pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 14th Sep 2013, 01:04pm) *
... including our member and friend, Rab - except that he refused to go into great Detail.
C'mon Rab, I know it's the wrong Topic but we'll forgive you mate. wink.gif


I will second that he led us on and led us on and then dropped us just when he was getting to the good bit smile.gif

Posted by: wee davy 14th Sep 2013, 01:36pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 13th Sep 2013, 03:19pm) *
C'mon Davy, there's no such Thing as empty space ... except that wan bitween yer ears laugh.gif


well, i heard a very impotent scientist call it that lol

Posted by: wee davy 14th Sep 2013, 01:39pm

QUOTE (Ruchazie Rat @ 13th Sep 2013, 04:43pm) *
There are always sweeping statements about The Imminent Discovery Of Life On Other Planets. And they`re usually issued around the same time when NASA`s knocking on Washington`s door cap in hand.

And what is this "Life, Jim. But not as we know it"? Germs. Molecules. Microbodes. No ET`s. No Xenomorphs. No nubile, young Benny Hill extras.

In the meantime, get a load of all them wicked Nebula shots. What a desktop background! And it only cost the US taxpayer umpteen billions over the last half century. Why pish all that dough away on schools or hospitals when you can have a great Flick`r account? And, in the interests of fairness, let`s not forget, Teflon non-stick frying pans came out of all that investment...
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif


Rattie (I think your a water vole really) - keep yer hair on - jist because your becoming extinct

Posted by: Ruchazie Rat 14th Sep 2013, 03:16pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 13th Sep 2013, 11:12pm) *
Don't be an angry Rat. Without all that research and development we wouldn't have people like Richard Branson settin' us up with cheap space flights soon tongue.gif


I`ve got a mate Stateside and he stays down New Mexico way where Big Rick has his Trek Trips based. He managed to sweettalk US politicos in giving him sh*tloads of dosh for the prestige of having this in their backyard. Branson got the Yanks to subside his FirstBus shebang! Despite the locals and taxpayers doing their damndest to oppose it.

Some guy that Branson! I hope HE doesn`t go into politics!
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Ruchazie Rat 14th Sep 2013, 03:21pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 13th Sep 2013, 07:12pm) *
Another often-quoted myth: TEFLON was patented in 1945! A wee bit before we went into space! Also quoted NASA spinoffs are Memory Foam and Velcro, neither of which had any basis in the space programme, although they may have been used in space. yes.gif


I stand corrected. But, nonetheless, can you really say, on balance, ALL THAT MONEY tossed at NASA. Do you really feel comfortable with the idea it`s money well spent when it could`ve/ should`ve been spent on schools and hospitals?

Posted by: Rab 14th Sep 2013, 08:42pm

QUOTE (Ruchazie Rat @ 14th Sep 2013, 04:19pm) *
I stand corrected. But, nonetheless, can you really say, on balance, ALL THAT MONEY tossed at NASA. Do you really feel comfortable with the idea it`s money well spent when it could`ve/ should`ve been spent on schools and hospitals?


I agree entirely but thats the Space-Race and political oneupmanship for you!

Posted by: JAGZ1876 14th Sep 2013, 08:51pm

QUOTE (Ruchazie Rat @ 14th Sep 2013, 03:19pm) *
can you really say, on balance, ALL THAT MONEY tossed at NASA. Do you really feel comfortable with the idea it`s money well spent when it could`ve/ should`ve been spent on schools and hospitals?


Compared to the money that's spent on arms and wars i would say that is money well spent, it's always been the instinct of man to explore beyond our boundaries, "space" as James Tiberius Kirk once said was "the final frontier" if we hadn't explored and developed as a species we would probably still be living in caves.

Posted by: Rab 14th Sep 2013, 08:55pm


QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 14th Sep 2013, 01:04pm) *
... including our member and friend, Rab - except that he refused to go into great Detail.
C'mon Rab, I know it's the wrong Topic but we'll forgive you mate. wink.gif


Wossat? Crikey, you've got a good memory! I suppose you need one on here. I guess you are referring to my reluctance to explain my Golden Balls experience? I feared alarm and despondency in the British population, not to mention panic about what I saw that terrible night. I still shudder at the memory.



Posted by: carmella 14th Sep 2013, 09:52pm

Well Rab don't shudder any more - it's less of a burden if you tell us - you know it makes sense to spill the beans....... mellow.gif

Posted by: Betsy2009 14th Sep 2013, 10:28pm

The way the population is going they'd better hurry up and find another habitable planet!

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 14th Sep 2013, 11:21pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 14th Sep 2013, 08:53pm) *
Wossat? ... I guess you are referring to my Golden Balls experience?


Well, I wouldn't exactly put it like that ... although I just did.

Posted by: Betsy2009 14th Sep 2013, 11:50pm

Don't forget that it's not only NASA who are spending money in space ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23964372

Posted by: JAGZ1876 15th Sep 2013, 08:27am

QUOTE (Rab @ 14th Sep 2013, 08:53pm) *
I guess you are referring to my reluctance to explain my Golden Balls experience?


I caught an episode of that show once, no matter how hard Jasper Carrott tried to explain the rules i just couldn't make head nor tail of it laugh.gif

Posted by: Rab 15th Sep 2013, 01:30pm

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 15th Sep 2013, 09:25am) *
I caught an episode of that show once, no matter how hard Jasper Carrott tried to explain the rules i just couldn't make head nor tail of it laugh.gif


Me too! yes.gif

Posted by: Rab 15th Sep 2013, 01:35pm

My gold balls are very difficult to talk about. The warnings I received regarding the Official Secrets Act at the time placed me in a quandry. I do not think my balls are really part of this topic, but they are very precious to me.
Should I discuss it here with you all? I am not sure that you are really, truly interested in my balls. Hmm. unsure.gif

Posted by: Ruchazie Rat 15th Sep 2013, 01:38pm

QUOTE (Rab @ 14th Sep 2013, 08:40pm) *
I agree entirely but thats the Space-Race and political oneupmanship for you!


Bit ironic. The Space Race came out the Cold War. And that went tits up in 89 when The Wall came tumbling down. But NASA hung on. (OK, I know, we`re supposed to say that they`re a non-military non-political organisation). Anyway, I`d say they`ve had a good run for their (or, rather, other peoples`) money.

I seem to recall when they christened the first spaceshuttle Enterprise, some of the Star Trek cast didn`t show up for The Press Show cos they didn`t approve. And Patrick Stewart refused to get involved during the 90`s.

Posted by: Ruchazie Rat 15th Sep 2013, 01:50pm

QUOTE (Betsy2009 @ 14th Sep 2013, 10:26pm) *
The way the population is going they'd better hurry up and find another habitable planet!


I love all those old 50`s/60`s Hollywood rubbishy sci-fi flicks with "Earth" type planets being "colonised". They are nothing more than adverts for the mod-con age in the US at that time with citizens being conditioned into consumers. These cheesy-flicks portrayed that genre as "Jam Today". "More Of The Same". "The Good Time`s Are Never Gonna End".

I much more favour Blade Runner which tells it like it is. Like it always has been. Like it allways will be. Human nature, unless relentlessly and rigorously kept in check, especially where free-enterprise is concerned, usually reveals itself to be a "Grab all you can and live it up for today. And **** the consequences. Let`s worry about that when they show up. Or let someone else handle it".

That`s why we`re in the global economic/climatic/social mess we`re in right now. No forward planning. No-one anywhere willing to adhere to long-term common sense practices.

Give us another planet. And it`ll be just another ****ing mess, Earth 2, in next to no time. Greasing up another planet will not solve the underlying problem. We, the inhabiotants, are the problem...

Posted by: Betsy2009 17th Sep 2013, 12:26pm

Any volunteers for this one?

"Get paid to stay in bed: Nasa recruits couch potatoes for microgravity study"

£3000 a month to do nothing???

http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/17/nasa-recruits-volunteers-to-stay-in-bed-for-microgravity-study-4036778/

Posted by: Ruchazie Rat 17th Sep 2013, 01:37pm

Bet there`ll be a shitload of applicants from Hollyrood about a year from now!
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Posted by: TeeHeeHee 26th Oct 2014, 11:09am

Right then, we're off tongue.gif

QUOTE
If only your name could collect frequent flyer miles. NASA is inviting the public to send their names on a microchip to destinations beyond low-Earth orbit, including Mars.
Your name will begin its journey on a dime-sized microchip when the agency’s Orion spacecraft launches Dec. 4 on its first flight, designated Exploration Flight Test-1. After a 4.5 hour, two-orbit mission around Earth to test Orion’s systems, the spacecraft will travel back through the atmosphere at speeds approaching 20,000 mph and temperatures near 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit, before splashing down in the Pacific Ocean.
But the journey for your name doesn’t end there. After returning to Earth, the names will fly on future NASA exploration flights and missions to Mars. With each flight, selected individuals will accrue more miles as members of a global space-faring society.
"NASA is pushing the boundaries of exploration and working hard to send people to Mars in the future,” said Mark Geyer, Orion Program manager. "When we set foot on the Red Planet, we’ll be exploring for all of humanity. Flying these names will enable people to be part of our journey."
The deadline for receiving a personal “boarding pass” on Orion’s test flight closes Friday Oct. 31. The public will have an opportunity to keep submitting names beyond Oct. 31 to be included on future test flights and future NASA missions to Mars.
To submit your name to fly on Orion’s flight test, visit:
http://go.usa.gov/vcpz
Join the conversation on social media using the hashtag #JourneyToMars.
For information about Orion and its first flight, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/orion
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Rachel Kraft / Dwayne Brown
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1100 / 202-358-1726
rachel.h.kraft@nasa.gov / dwayne.c.brown@nasa.gov
Brandi Dean
Johnson Space Center, Houston
281-483-5111
brandi.k.dean@nasa.gov





http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/october/send-your-name-on-nasa-s-journey-to-mars-starting-with-orion-s-first-flight/#.VEgrpPnF81I

Posted by: zascot 26th Oct 2014, 03:16pm

QUOTE (Ruchazie Rat @ 15th Sep 2013, 03:07pm) *
I much more favour Blade Runner which tells it like it is. Like it always has been. Like it allways will be.
...

Sorry we`ve put him away for a wee bit, about five years less good behavior. yes.gif

Posted by: enrique 27th Oct 2014, 10:39am

biggrin.gif Along the same lines i had to laugh at Tam Cowans quip, he said he heard they were sending up a rocket to Mars , but it would be all women, exclaiming , WHY IS IT NEEDING CLEANED UP

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 3rd May 2015, 11:16am

All rumours of my demise have been greatly exagerated tongue.gif

To all, or any, who may have missed me, I've been; and still am, having a bit of trouble with my eyes. They're still as blue/green as ever but where the green one, on the left. secumbed years ago to the dreaded AMD which didn't overly bother me too much, the blue one on the right is now following suit. Fortunately I have signed up to take part in a study at the Eye Clinic at the Freiburg Uni. Clinic and will undergo monthly eye-injections which, if nothing else, should Arrest any further Deterioration of the ol' blue eye. The first injection was last Monday: the next on June the 1st. Last week after 6 hours of tests Prior to the injection, I was told that I might even be lucky enough to noticed some improvement even but as of today I haven't noticed any although it's still early days: some patients have seen improvement within the first 7 to 10 days.

The wonders of science biggrin.gif

... which brings us back to NASA; and an idea started off by a small UK Company called Satellite Propulsion Resarch Ltd -
Heh, we're talkin' WARP DRIVE here, Scotty cool3.gif

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/04/evaluating-nasas-futuristic-em-drive/


Posted by: Betsy2009 3rd May 2015, 12:02pm

I really hope the new treatment works on your eye, THH. Good luck!

This is really exciting. I want to live for another 50 years to see it all happening, although I'd prefer to go in the Millennium Falcon!

Whilst this is all fairly important I have to say that there are more important things happening on the space front ...

"The high-powered dream team trying to create a stiletto shoe as comfy as a trainer
The former executive with SpaceX – the US space transport company – has put together what she believes is the ultimate team to design the world’s most comfortable stiletto. The team includes a rocket scientist, an engineer, an astronaut, a fashion expert and an orthopaedic surgeon. Their aim: to lift women up by several inches without causing lasting damage to their feet.

Assembling such an array of serious scientific talent took some doing; some of them initially thought it was a silly idea. “The key was to make it an interesting problem in their language. Asking them to design a high heel isn’t interesting,” says Ms Singh. “But asking them to design a structure that supports a secondary structure, which is dynamic and has a 180-degree range of motion and happens to be a human body? That’s interesting. I had to make them see it not as a fluffy problem, but as a serious engineering problem.

“I love high heels – I’m 5ft 5in, but if I put on heels, I’m 5ft 9in and I feel model-esque,” she says. But after five years walking the floors of SpaceX’s 550,000-square-foot facility in Los Angeles in 4in (10cm) heels, she began to feel the pain.

“I had two choices: either wear uglier shoes or end up with ugly feet.” Her solution was to create her own company, Thesis Couture, which she describes as like “Nike meets Jimmy Choo”."

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/fashion/the-high-powered-dream-team-trying-to-create-a-stiletto-shoe-as-comfy-as-a-trainer/ar-BBj5zbe?ocid=iehp


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 3rd May 2015, 12:41pm

Stiletto heels? That's not Rocket Science, Baby!
Oh yes it is kiddo laugh.gif

Mary bought me built-up boots years ago when we we first started walkin' out together ... with her high heels she thought the difference in our heights was too much. Me? I just love big burds in hiugh heels biggrin.gif

Aint science wonderful? tongue.gif


PS ...Thanks for the good wishes Betsy. wink.gif

Posted by: JAGZ1876 3rd May 2015, 03:04pm

Welcome back and good luck with the treatment THH. thumbup.gif

As for the warp drive, exciting times ahead..........Second star to the right and straight on till morning. laugh.gif

Posted by: Melody 3rd May 2015, 03:09pm

I missed you THH. smile.gif Sorry to read that you're having trouble with your eyes keeping fingers crossed that you'll have some improvement soon and that the injections will really help. Ye were missed pal. smile.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 3rd May 2015, 04:11pm

Thanks guys ... got this page up to A3 size now tongue.gif
Treatment Looks promising but those Lady doctors are keepong the promises at a professional Level biggrin.gif

Posted by: zascot 4th May 2015, 02:25pm

Hope things work out THH. If its any help I had a very bad retina detachment(90%) a few years ago and they filled the eye with gas, made me sit still for a week then reattached the retina and it seems to be successful, hold thumbs, I have lost a bit of peripheral vision but I had an eye test today for my drivers licence which we renew every 5 years and it was OK. Anyway holding thumbs for an improvement in your sight.

Posted by: Rab 4th May 2015, 08:19pm

I have not read this thread for a while, but reading ittonight, I am reminded of space and experiments, including this one which made me fall off my chair laughing.

On 1 April 1976, Patrick Moore, the TV astronomer stated to radio listeners that an astronomical event would take place at 9:47 a.m. that day, a conjunction of Jupiter and Pluto, which was expected to have an effect observable everywhere. As Pluto passed behind Jupiter, it would briefly cause a powerful combination of the two planets' gravitation which would noticeably decrease gravity on Earth. If listeners were to jump into the air at that exact moment, they would find they felt a floating sensation.

Soon after 9:47 on that morning, the BBC began to receive hundreds of telephone calls from people reporting they had observed the decrease in gravity. One woman who called in even stated that she and eleven friends had been sitting and had been "wafted from their chairs and orbited gently around the room".

Posted by: DannyH 4th May 2015, 10:32pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 3rd May 2015, 05:28pm) *
Thanks guys ... got this page up to A3 size now :P
Treatment Looks promising but those Lady doctors are keepong the promises at a professional Level :D


Hello TeeHeeHee

Just want to add my good wishes to those you have already received. I always look forward to your posts; you've got a sense of humour that appeals to me.

All the best

Danny Harris

Posted by: ashfield 5th May 2015, 08:34am

QUOTE (Rab @ 4th May 2015, 09:36pm) *
I have not read this thread for a while, but reading ittonight, I am reminded of space and experiments, including this one which made me fall off my chair laughing.

On 1 April 1976, Patrick Moore, the TV astronomer stated to radio listeners that an astronomical event would take place at 9:47 a.m. that day, a conjunction of Jupiter and Pluto, which was expected to have an effect observable everywhere. As Pluto passed behind Jupiter, it would briefly cause a powerful combination of the two planets' gravitation which would noticeably decrease gravity on Earth. If listeners were to jump into the air at that exact moment, they would find they felt a floating sensation.

Soon after 9:47 on that morning, the BBC began to receive hundreds of telephone calls from people reporting they had observed the decrease in gravity. One woman who called in even stated that she and eleven friends had been sitting and had been "wafted from their chairs and orbited gently around the room".


Rab, that event appears to occur around here almost every Friday and Saturday night, I can hardly hold onto my whisky glass laugh.gif

Tomi, sorry to hear of your woes. We've missed your contributions and I wish you well on the treatment front yes.gif

Posted by: Betsy2009 5th May 2015, 08:39am

Must have been the space dust popping in their heads.

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Sep 2017, 09:09pm

In the interest of keeping things on an interesting level where possible and in memory of Rabbie Stirling ...



... who started this thread :-



The Story of Voyager I and Voyager II and the immortality of Check Berry wink.gif


https://123movies.film/film/the-farthest-2017/watching.html


"You, and every one and every thing that ever lived or ever will live ...
... are here".

Carl Sagan

(who pushed the Mission administrators to turn the vovager to take one last picture of the planets on it's last lap out of the solar system and got this picture of the little blue dot in a sunbeam)


Posted by: TeeHeeHee 8th Sep 2017, 09:29pm

... by the way, to all those who wished me well with the eye problem - thanks; and didn't we do well biggrin.gif
The biggest oroblem was the "squiggles" which didn't bode well for my future: Solid lines like TV frames, door frames and straight lines in the middle of the road had big squiggles ... but that's all a thing of the past tongue.gif An interserting 12 months with a very arresting result biggrin.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Sep 2017, 09:44am

Anytime within the next hour it's Goodby Cassini; one amazing spacecraft as it finally dives into Saturn's atmosphere yes.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKrX6SEGmH8

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 15th Sep 2017, 09:44am

... double postings are becoming the norm I think laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

https://www.youtube.com/nasajpl/live

Posted by: angel 15th Sep 2017, 05:49pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 15th Sep 2017, 09:44am) *
Anytime within the next hour it's Goodby Cassini; one amazing spacecraft as it finally dives into Saturn's atmosphere yes.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKrX6SEGmH8



Yes it was an amazing spacecraft ,it had been sending information
to Nasa for I think about 14yrs and kept doing so
during its death throws onto the Planet 'Saturn '

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 22nd Sep 2019, 01:40pm

SC)TLAND's VERY OWN CAPE KENNEDY?

I had to laugh while reading a year old article concerning the UK's first Spaceport - Located in Sutherland’s A’Mhoine peninsula.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jul/16/rocket-men-locals-divided-over-plans-for-uks-first-spaceport

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/22/western-isles-spaceport-threatens-wildlife-tourism-north-uist





What made me laugh was the following paragraph ...

QUOTE
... the UK Space Agency announced it had awarded £23m to the US aerospace group Lockheed Martin, which is expected to fly its Electron rocket from Sutherland. The agency handed a further £5 to Orbex, a British space company which is developing a rocket called Prime.


I can't imagine that£5 going very far in rocket development but bookkeeping was never my strong point. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: JAGZ1876 22nd Sep 2019, 05:04pm

QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 22nd Sep 2019, 02:40pm) *
I can't imagine that£5 going very far in rocket development but bookkeeping was never my strong point. rolleyes.gif


With bonfire night coming soon you wouldn't even get a decent firework rocket for £5. laugh.gif

Posted by: TeeHeeHee 22nd Sep 2019, 06:06pm

You're righy there Jagz laugh.gif

I always wondered where the UK might locate a Spaceport but never gave much thought to the Shetlands. A place somewhere in the Yorkshire Dales might have been out-of-the-way enough but then I guess if the UK can use Scotland to store its nuclear stuff and its subs then Scotland might be as good a place as any.
Even in today's tate-of-the-art rocket technoligy tyhere is still a 20% average of rockets going `up-in-the-air' before getting too far off the launch pad.

In one of those articles above an arguement for the site was that it would bring much needed jobs to the area. awhen asked how many jobs might be on offer the answer was 70.
When asked how many of the locals would be given the oportunity of filing these jobs the answer was maybe 8 yo 14.

ai guess that might include gardeners and canteen staff ... as well as the ocassional window cleaners.
The RSPB - Roal Society for the Protection of Birds - are standing behind the islanders.

Posted by: JAGZ1876 1st Oct 2019, 09:00am


The clearest image ever taken of Mercury.

https://twitter.com/ZonePhysics/status/1178821921842044934


Posted by: ashfield 1st Oct 2019, 02:49pm

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 1st Oct 2019, 10:00am) *
The clearest image ever taken of Mercury.

https://twitter.com/ZonePhysics/status/1178821921842044934


I'm sure I used to have bool that looked like that, one of ones that were bigger than the greenies unsure.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: JAGZ1876 1st Oct 2019, 06:48pm

QUOTE (ashfield @ 1st Oct 2019, 03:49pm) *
I'm sure I used to have bool that looked like that, one of ones that were bigger than the greenies unsure.gif tongue.gif



Sounds good, i'll swap you two steely's for it Ash. laugh.gif

Posted by: zascot 2nd Oct 2019, 07:38am

The Milky Way passing over Mars.

Posted by: JAGZ1876 2nd Oct 2019, 08:10am

QUOTE (zascot @ 2nd Oct 2019, 08:38am) *
The Milky Way passing over Mars.


What 'Galaxy' are they in Zascot? laugh.gif