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wombat Posted 9th Nov 2016, 09:30pm
 
QUOTE (Talisman @ 9th Nov 2016, 10:13pm) *
If that is the reason why is Spain, Greece and Portugal devoid of (except in the case of dysfunctional U.K. drunks) of all violent, aggressive and dangerous drunks. Yet are subject to freely available cheap alcohol on a 24 hour per day basis???


rolleyes.gif Ermm,perhaps they have a different mentality in those countries talisman yes.gif
Talisman Posted 9th Nov 2016, 09:13pm
 
QUOTE (droschke7 @ 14th May 2012, 01:08am) *
Easy for you to say Ian But last time i looked Reading wasn't in Scotland,

If that is the reason why is Spain, Greece and Portugal devoid of (except in the case of dysfunctional U.K. drunks) of all violent, aggressive and dangerous drunks. Yet are subject to freely available cheap alcohol on a 24 hour per day basis???
wombat Posted 8th Nov 2016, 07:46pm
 
QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 7th Nov 2016, 10:49pm) *
IMHO this proposal is without merit, much as is the minimum price scheme. Neither will have any effect on the problem. More civilised countries have no such restrictions, cheaper alcohol and easier access without silly timetables, without the drunken behaviour seen by many British both at home and abroad. I fear I do not know the answer to the problem as it seems to be an ingrained part of British "culture", although the majority of citizens drink and act responsibly. Is poverty the cause? I don't think so, as young people from affluent backgrounds are also affected. There is poverty in other countries without the same result. I wish I knew the solution, but neither pricing nor the tightening of already illogical licensing hours will achieve anything.


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bilbo.s Posted 8th Nov 2016, 01:58pm
 
QUOTE (Dykejumper @ 8th Nov 2016, 12:03pm) *
Good grief ! I agree with everything bilbo wrote.



Dinna fash yersel! biggrin.gif Just as no two people are likely to agree on everything, no two people are likely to disagree on everything.
Dykejumper Posted 8th Nov 2016, 11:03am
  Good grief ! I agree with everything bilbo wrote.
bilbo.s Posted 7th Nov 2016, 10:49pm
 
QUOTE (GG @ 7th Nov 2016, 11:27pm) *
A related story today:

Full story here:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/scots-nhs-bos...e-5pm-1-4279465

GG.


IMHO this proposal is without merit, much as is the minimum price scheme. Neither will have any effect on the problem. More civilised countries have no such restrictions, cheaper alcohol and easier access without silly timetables, without the drunken behaviour seen by many British both at home and abroad. I fear I do not know the answer to the problem as it seems to be an ingrained part of British "culture", although the majority of citizens drink and act responsibly. Is poverty the cause? I don't think so, as young people from affluent backgrounds are also affected. There is poverty in other countries without the same result. I wish I knew the solution, but neither pricing nor the tightening of already illogical licensing hours will achieve anything.
GG Posted 7th Nov 2016, 10:27pm
  A related story today:
QUOTE
Scots NHS bosses suggest alcohol sale ban before 5pm

Shops could be told to stop selling alcohol during the day under new NHS proposals to curb the harm caused by drinking.

Public health experts from NHS Shetland suggested that sales of drink should be banned until late afternoon or evening as part of a new report on substance abuse.

The report’s authors warn that alcohol has become “embedded” in society, citing figures that around three quarters of all alcohol drunk in Scotland was now bought from supermarkets or off licences.

There are currrently around 670 hospital admissions a week in Scotland due to alcohol, while 22 people die every seven days from related conditions.

The report said: “Restricting licensing hours would be a big help, if off-sales were not permitted until late afternoon or evening rather than from 10am.” [...]

Full story here:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/scots-nhs-bos...e-5pm-1-4279465

GG.
pumps100 Posted 25th Oct 2016, 06:46pm
  Surprise announcement today that David Frost the Chief Executive of Scottish Whisky Association has resigned. He is going to work as a special advisor to Boris Johnson in the Foreign Office. Starts his new job on 4th November.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scot...siness-37765156

Regards

Ian
pumps100 Posted 25th Oct 2016, 08:09am
  I think the issue with EU trade law has already been previously dealt with in 2013 - they passed it back to the local jurisdiction to determine what they do.

With regard to the Scottish Whisky Association (SWA) continuing to pursue the matter via the UK Supreme Court that remains to be seen.

As the SWA products would be largely unaffected by MAP - 80% is exported - I personally don't see whats in it for them other than to incur more legal costs.

The 20% of whisky consumed in the UK the bulk would be branded products largely unaffected by MAP. I don't know the percentage of whisky actually drink in Scotland but if I was guessing maybe only 1-2% of the total. Deduct from this unaffected branded products then the own labeled 'value' products which would be affected by MAP must be very small indeed.

http://www.thenational.scot/news/scotch-wh...on-ruling.23888

Regards

Ian
DannyH Posted 24th Oct 2016, 10:49pm
  This is developing into a situation where the SNP may finish up shooting themselves in the foot.

Forgetting about the argument for setting a minimum price for alcohol, what is interesting is that the SNP has won the 'first round' by getting the Court of Session backing for their change to the pricing of alchohol. The whiskey association is now threatening to go to the Supreme Court, arguing that this breaks EU trade laws.

Isn't the SNP all for EU trade for Scotland?

Danny Harris
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