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> Scottish Independence, About voting yes/no
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JAGZ1876
post 15th Oct 2017, 08:46pm
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You need to learn to use the quote feature, it's hard enough reading your ramblings without you mixing them all up


What's the point, you never read them anyway. yes.gif
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post 18th Oct 2017, 06:04pm
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I wonder if Ruth will yellow card Mr Ross for failing to do his day job?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scot...litics-41660040

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post 18th Oct 2017, 06:37pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 18th Oct 2017, 08:04pm) *
I wonder if Ruth will yellow card Mr Ross for failing to do his day job?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scot...litics-41660040

I think we all know the answer to that. yes.gif



Mrs May replied that Mr Ross's constituents would be pleased to have a Conservative MP, saying that "the Scottish Conservative members are doing more for the interests of Scotland in this parliament than the Scottish Nationalists have ever done."


I wonder whether Mrs May, or, for that matter anyone else,
would care to elaborate on that claim. Ye couldnae mak it up! wacko.gif


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post Y'day, 09:38am
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Mrs May replied that Mr Ross's constituents would be pleased to have a Conservative MP, saying that "the Scottish Conservative members are doing more for the interests of Scotland in this parliament than the Scottish Nationalists have ever done."


I wonder whether Mrs May, or, for that matter anyone else,
would care to elaborate on that claim. Ye couldnae mak it up! wacko.gif



It's right up there with "red white & blue Brexit. yes.gif
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Joan McAlpine seems to say some quite mad things at times and doesn't seem to understand that despite there being devolution the UK is a single market, one which means myself or any other person living here can freely move, work and shop in any other part of the UK, unlike the other single market, the EU, there are no restrictions.

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Senior SNP MSP Joan McAlpine accused of leaving reality after claiming UK single market doesn't exist


A SENIOR Nationalist MSP has been accused of parting company with reality after claiming there is no such thing as the UK single market.

Joan McAlpine, convener of Holyrood’s European Committee, stunned an event at the Scottish Parliament’s Festival of Politics by saying it was “a bit of a nonsense”.

The single market refers to the border-free movement of goods, capital, people and services inside the UK - an arrangement Scottish independence might end, Unionists warn.

However Ms McAlpine, who was chairing a discussion about Brexit, appeared to think devolution meant the UK had already lost its frictionless economy.

The South of Scotland MSP was immediately corrected by two of her panelists.

Ms McAlpine said: “This talk of the UK single market, it’s a bit of a nonsense when you think that under the devolved settlement we already have different approaches to things.

“Health, for example, and lots of other areas as well where we take a different approach.

“So we don’t really have a UK single market.”

Professor Nicola McEwen, Associate Director of the Centre for Constitutional Change at Edinburgh University, promptly told her: “Yes, we do.”

Alan Page, Professor of Public Law at the University of Dundee, then explained: “Buying and selling goods, moving job, capital - all of these things move freely within the United Kingdom to the extent that we don’t even think about it.

“We live in an economic and monetary union. We do have, no question, a single market in which goods, people, capital move freely within the UK.”

Last year Ms McAlpine wrote the foreword to a paper commissioned by her own committee which referred to the UK single market.

It said: "The devolution settlement, like the European Union, is based on a ‘single market’ in goods, persons, services and capital."

A spokesman for the Scottish Tories said: “It appears Joan McAlpine has decided to temporarily leave the reality-based community. Of course we have a UK market - just ask anyone who has popped across the border from Carlisle to Gretna to do some shopping.

“Given Ms McAlpine is a South of Scotland MSP, you’d think she’d be the first to understand this. It’s therefore extremely odd she doesn’t.”

The UK single market is key to the main Brexit legislation and the SNP’s claim that it is a Westminster “power grab”.

The EU (Withdrawal) Bill, as drafted, would see all powers repatriated from the EU at Brexit go to Westminster, even those in devolved areas such as fishing and farming.

The SNP says this breaches the fundamental principle of the devolution settlement, that powers not specifically reserved to Westminster belong at Holyrood by default.

The UK government says some powers will be forwarded to the devolved legislatures, but others must stay in UK-wide “common frameworks” to preserve the UK single market.

The goal is to avoid the different legislatures creating internal barriers to trade, for example by Holyrood insisting on different animal feed standards to England.

The UK and SNP governments are currently discussing which repatriated devolved powers should go to Holyrood and when, and which go into common frameworks.

The “Brexit - Where Now?” event also heard the reluctance to halt Brexit had created a “huge hole” in Scottish politics, as the wishes of most voters were being overruled.

Dr Kirsty Hughes, director of the Scottish Centre on European Relations, said there was a “democratic gap” and predicted either hard Brexit, no deal or no Brexit, but not a soft Brexit.

She said: “The complete political and economic crisis we would get as we plunge convincingly towards no deal is probably our best chance of actually forcing Labour to a shift, forcing the SNP to speak out and turning this around."


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The tail (the bit near the *rse) is most definitely wagging the dog. Many people voted for the Greens as their second vote simply because they support Indy, now that they have this wee bit of power they are going to make sure we are all affected. We will all be poorer if they achieve their goals. Someone ought to tell them that driving at 20mph uses more fuel than at 30mph.

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Scottish Greens list demands for budget support


The Scottish Green Party co-convener has set out a list of demands that he said the SNP must meet before his party will support its budget next year.
Speaking at the party's autumn conference in Edinburgh, Patrick Harvie called for tax rises for higher earners and tax cuts for lower earners.
He also demanded a fully-funded, above inflation public sector pay increase.
The SNP is a minority government and needs support from other parties to pass legislation and its annual budget.
The Greens are the fourth-largest party at Holyrood, with six MSPs, but the pro-independence party often hold the balance of power in the parliament.
Speaking at Edinburgh Napier University, Mr Harvie told party members that tax reform was the "only way" the SNP government could expect Green support for the 2018-19 budget.
Public sector pay
The MSP reiterated his call for the SNP to drop its policy of cutting tax for the aviation industry and wealthy frequent fliers.
He said: "Don't just pause ADT [Airport Departure Tax] cuts. Cancel them. The SNP has no case environmentally, socially, economically.
"Even in simple transport terms there are bigger priorities. ADT cuts are now on hold. It's time to scrap the policy altogether.
"We also need to see public sector pay rise above inflation and funded because merely scrapping the cap without providing the resources will change nothing, we need local authorities funded to restore lost value, and we need investment in low carbon infrastructure to hit 70% by the end of this parliament."
Mr Harvie added: "We can't do any of that without tax reform. Let's cut tax for low earners, and reduce inequality. Greens are clearly leading the change on tax policy.
"We have a very clear message for the finance secretary. This is the only way you'll get Green support for the budget."
Mr Harvie told party members that the list of Green achievements at Holyrood is "long and getting longer".
'Positive agenda'
He added: "We're leading the change on issues from air pollution to rent control, and from the fracking ban to the announcement of a publicly-owned energy company and it's clear that the positive Green agenda we've been pushing for years is making real progress.
"With support growing for Green campaigns like our bills to protect children from violence and to make 20mph speed limits the norm, and for core Green ideas like universal basic income and Land Value Tax, it's clear that we have much more progress ahead."
The two-day conference will also hear from Sweden's deputy finance minister, Per Bolund, and Green MLA Clare Bailey, who has been leading the campaign to change Northern Ireland's restrictive abortion laws.


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