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> Uk Independence Referendum - Brexit, Yes or No on EU membership
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wombat
post 26th Jul 2015, 10:19pm
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QUOTE (Talisman @ 26th Jul 2015, 10:07pm) *
I am Scottish by birth for generations going back centuries. I was made "British" by an act of the Westminster parliament, an act in which I and no other Scot ever had a say in.

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post 27th Jul 2015, 06:38pm
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QUOTE (Talisman @ 26th Jul 2015, 11:07pm) *
I am Scottish by birth for generations going back centuries. I was made "British" by an act of the Westminster parliament, an act in which I and no other Scot ever had a say in.

Erm, I'm certain there's another thread dedicated to that topic.
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post 28th Jul 2015, 05:22pm
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QUOTE (Talisman @ 26th Jul 2015, 11:07pm) *
I am Scottish by birth for generations going back centuries. I was made "British" by an act of the Westminster parliament, an act in which I and no other Scot ever had a say in.



was probably before your time right enough and id suspect a few of kems ancestors would have agreed to it anyway wink.gif
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post 28th Jul 2015, 05:32pm
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QUOTE (ktv @ 28th Jul 2015, 06:30pm) *
id suspect a few of kems ancestors would have agreed to it anyway

Historical records that I have seen possibly suggest that you couldn't be more wrong. tongue.gif
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post 28th Jul 2015, 06:56pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 28th Jul 2015, 06:40pm) *
Historical records that I have seen possibly suggest that you couldn't be more wrong. tongue.gif


They'll be turning in their graves then, well done Kem. laugh.gif
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post 3rd Aug 2015, 01:26pm
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do historical records show who was in favour of joining England?

I think not
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post 3rd Aug 2015, 03:11pm
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QUOTE (ktv @ 3rd Aug 2015, 02:34pm) *
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do historical records show who was in favour of joining England?

I think not


Unless kem has a graph that proves otherwise, after all he has graphs for everything else. laugh.gif
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post 3rd Aug 2015, 11:04pm
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With the UK and French governments forming a united front in an attempt to tackle the problems at the border related to the international migrant crisis, the Scottish government responding by seeking to ensure the continuation of seafood exports and the Swedish government complaining that the migrants should be our priority...

How do people think this Summer's big news story will impact the national debate around the forthcoming EU referendum?

I doubt if the UKIP could have dreamed-up a better reason to leave the Union and become independent, and if anything positive is to be made of it then the Yes campaigners will have to work ten times harder.

Bad news all round, I say. The solution (if there is one) to the problem is maybe for another debate. But, given that it's happening, that it's affecting UK business, that no government seems ready to respond, that migrants are no doubt suffering and that presently at least one other EU member state is critical of how the situation at Calais is developing, I reckon it shall rival the Greek crisis as a hot topic of conversation.
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post 4th Aug 2015, 10:27am
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theres a thread dedicated to that topic elsewhere
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post 4th Aug 2015, 10:14pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 24th Jul 2015, 10:14pm) *
For Ash...

There was an old man who liked a joke.
In debates online he'd often choke.
Very much scatological,
Hard at work in his cubicle
He wrote crap till the internet broke!

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for YOO tongue.gif yes.gif

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post 5th Aug 2015, 11:00am
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QUOTE (ktv @ 4th Aug 2015, 11:35am) *
There's a thread dedicated to that topic elsewhere.


It is relevant to this one.


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European Economic Area (EEA) nationals and their dependants and those with refugee status abroad and their dependants are among the 5 classes of person prescribed by Schedule 3 to the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 as ineligible for various state benefits including support or assistance under a provision of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999. This means that they may not be provided with asylum support under Sections 4, 95 or 98 of the 1999 Act except to the extent necessary to prevent a breach of a person’s rights under the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) or under the Community Treaties. This generally means caseworkers must consider whether an EEA nationals rights under Article 3 and/or 8 of the ECHR will be breached by the refusal of support.


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There were 25,020 asylum applications (main applicants) in the year ending March 2015, an increase of 5% compared with the previous year (23,803). The number of applications remains low relative to the peak number of applications in 2002 (84,132).

In the year ending March 2015, the largest number of asylum applications (main applicants) came from nationals of Eritrea (3,552), followed by Pakistan (2,421) and Syria (2,222). Grant rates for asylum, humanitarian protection, discretionary leave or other grants of stay vary between nationalities. For example, 85% of the total initial decisions made for nationals of Eritrea and Syria were grants, compared with 22% for Pakistani nationals.

The UK had the fifth highest number (31,400) of asylum applications within the EU in 2014. In 2014, four EU countries received more asylum applicants than the UK – Germany (166,800), Sweden (81,300), France (63,100) and Italy (56,300).

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post 5th Aug 2015, 12:36pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 5th Aug 2015, 12:08pm) *
It is relevant to this one.


its only relevant when you want it to be yes.gif

just as you think throwing anything into a topic is relevant wacko.gif
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post 5th Aug 2015, 12:42pm
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QUOTE (ktv @ 5th Aug 2015, 01:44pm) *
You think throwing anything into a topic is relevant.

I happen to think that this Summer's two big news stories from Athens and Calais will be of relevance to this debate.

Do you take the Swedish point of view and are you in favour, as a Yes voter, of the status quo, whereby the increasing number of asylum seekers should not be further deterred from entering the UK?

Or, do you support the joint attempt by the UK and French Govs to tackle the problem?

Or, do you veer even more either way, i.e. by completely opening or closing the border?
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post 5th Aug 2015, 01:34pm
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post 5th Aug 2015, 03:30pm
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A No vote?

Ok, well that would remove our need to comply with the ECHR, then other European governments with a more liberal approach such as Sweden (www.independent.co.uk/news/sweden) would need to mind their own business a little more.

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