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> South Africa, Oscar Pistorius Trial!
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post 26th Mar 2014, 09:53pm
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Hi Campbell,
I was too late to add to my last message, after typing was told I couldn't edit it, because of course I'd left it too long. Anyway, Dylan is correct, it was James Smith who was hanged at Barlinnie for the murder by stabbing at a dance in the Hibernian Halls on Royston Road in November 1951.

Smith was executed within the walls of Barlinnie on 21st April 1952.

He was not, however, the last hanging. Henry Burnett was hanged for the murder of Thomas Guyan in Aberdeen in 1963. Burnett was 21 when he was hanged, there was great outrage at the time that he should be hanged mainly because they thought 21 was too young - it made no difference. Ironically, the prison where he was kept and hanged was the spanking new Craiginches Prison, which had a newly built death cell and scaffold which had not been used until Burnett's hanging. Craiginches is no more, it was recently closed and a newer prison opened. Also at the time of Burnett's execution, it was the first execution in Aberdeen for more than 100 years, and the first and last at Craiginches.

The last woman to hang in Scotland was Susan Newell, she was hanged for the murder of a wee schoolboy, John Johnston, aged 13, she stole his paper money, killed him and went through the streets of Glasgow looking for a suitable place to dump his body in a wheelbarrow, but she was seen and subsequently arrested. She was hanged in 1923 within Duke Street Prison. Her reason for murdering the wee boy has never been proven, and there were no witnesses, but the small amount of money he would have had, would pay her rent or buy her a drink.


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post 26th Mar 2014, 09:59pm
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Thank you Carmella for the confirmation.


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post 26th Mar 2014, 10:24pm
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post 26th Mar 2014, 10:40pm
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Hi Carmella.

I just learned from your post that Craiginches prison is no more. I have only been away from Aberdeen for six and a half years, but there were so many changes last time I was there, that I missed that one. Strangely, when I was back, I realised sadly that I just have no love for the place, although I worked there for more than half my life and lived in the county for 35 years. Still get a wee buzz on visits to Glasgow, although even more changes there.


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post 26th Mar 2014, 10:53pm
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bilbo.s - the new 'super jail' opened this month. HMP Grampian, Peterhead.

Mind you Henry Burnett was buried in the grounds of Craiginches, and there he should have remained, but his body was moved before the closure, in consultation with family.

I think if I had to choose between Aberdeen and Glasgow, it would definately be Glasgow, no doubts about it. I also think things look a whole lot different when you've lived in a warm, sunny climate and come back on visits to a dreich climate, you remember why it was you left in the first place - for some, maybe not all.

I am just one of those folks who doesn't like extremes, I hate to be too hot and hate to be too cold - no happy medium it seems for me. I like listening to the rain, hitting the roof of my conservatory - sick or what LoL.


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post 27th Mar 2014, 06:30am
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now Dewanis lawyer's who had been talking to the SA government last week about arranging to have him sent here are now talking European courts in another bid to have the extradition stopped apparently it can take up to two years to have the case heard.

Aye the boy might be mentally unstable but he's no daft.
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post 27th Mar 2014, 08:55am
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You would think if he has nothing to worry about, he would want this over and done with. I think he doth protest too much. Yes he's no daft.


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post 27th Mar 2014, 03:56pm
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Thanks Carmella in regards to 'James Smith' we always called him 'Tony'
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post 27th Mar 2014, 04:38pm
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post 28th Mar 2014, 02:57am
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welly,i think you might be mixed up about tony smith..it was james smith who was hanged..he had a brother tony,and joe,and also a sister..they lived on wallacewell road.
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post 28th Mar 2014, 03:46am
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welly,i think you might be mixed up about tony smith..it was james smith who was hanged..he had a brother tony,and joe,and also a sister..they lived on wallacewell road.
Your dead right!!!!...I thought about that all day!!...it was Tony's brother,I lived on Woodhill Rd...me and my pal caught Tony robbing my pals gas meter,don't remember why but we all became mates later,....Thanks for posting that my friend.
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post 10th Apr 2014, 09:00am
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Watching the trial from Pretoria with great interest, I am not convinced this was murder.


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post 10th Apr 2014, 09:55am
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Carmella wait until all the cards are on the table.There could well be a Perry Mason moment eg the insurance broker turns up with the mega policy=Oscar the beneficiary=motive.
Personally from what Ive seen and read,based on evidence of his previous conduct,I think if Craiginches was still open he would be for the drop. rolleyes.gif
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post 10th Apr 2014, 10:09am
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Since the poor girls death, he has been so greif stricken that he has been forced to go on holiday almost constantly, try to buy himself a new house because the old one has to many bad memories because of his mistake, managed to get himself a new younger girlfriend and buy himself a new sports car.

Grief and remorse is a terrible cross to bear
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post 10th Apr 2014, 10:27am
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Perhaps it would well behove us all to wait for the result of South African justice.
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