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ashfield Posted Today, 07:10am
 
QUOTE (carmella @ 14th Oct 2019, 07:23am) *
I totally enjoyed that game, and thought our guys gave a decent shot at it regardless!

Hope SA do well on the 20th thumbup.gif


It's a complete outrage that World Rugby allowed this game to go ahead. We should have been left to feel bitter about getting unfairly thrown out of the competition with months (if not years) of feeling aggrieved at the injustice of it all tongue.gif
carmella Posted Today, 06:23am
 
QUOTE (zascot @ 13th Oct 2019, 02:56pm) *
Ah well Scotland were successful in leaving the Rugby World Cup this afternoon. biggrin.gif

I totally enjoyed that game, and thought our guys gave a decent shot at it regardless!

Hope SA do well on the 20th thumbup.gif
carmella Posted Today, 06:20am
 
QUOTE (TeeHeeHee @ 13th Oct 2019, 03:10pm) *
hi Jagz,
In part of your reply to Carmela ...



... I was reminded of the irony in the fear mongering regarding Scotland having to negotiate membership of the EU as an independant nation if it left the UK which was the member: leave the UK = leave the EU.
And here we now find our country having to leave the EU because we didn't leave the UK. rolleyes.gif

Honest TEE I’m no laughin’ but the comment in your last para is just too funny laugh.gif
DannyH Posted Y'day, 11:00pm
  Jagz you say that Catalonia and the Basque Country were never Independent countries like Scotland and England.

So you are an expert historian now. If you care to do some research you will find that the Basques predate Spain. In fact, The Basque’s predate the Romans, and are said to be the oldest race in Europe.

Unlike much of Scotland and England, the Basques still speak their original language. The Basque Country actually extends into part of France

So you see the Basques are not a breakaway area of Spain. If it ever comes to Scotland asking to be accepted into the EU, it will be interesting to see if Spain supports Scotland’s application. I most very likely will not be around when and if that occasion arises, so I will never know.

What I will say with confidence is, the Spanish government will be inviting trouble from the Basques and Catalonia if they support Scotland ‘s application.

Danny
TeeHeeHee Posted Y'day, 02:10pm
  hi Jagz,
In part of your reply to Carmela ...

QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 12th Oct 2019, 12:36pm) *
... but there will be those who voted NO like EU citizens who live in Scotland who were led to believe they'd be kicked out the country if we regained out independence ...


... I was reminded of the irony in the fear mongering regarding Scotland having to negotiate membership of the EU as an independant nation if it left the UK which was the member: leave the UK = leave the EU.
And here we now find our country having to leave the EU because we didn't leave the UK. rolleyes.gif
zascot Posted Y'day, 01:56pm
  Ah well Scotland were successful in leaving the Rugby World Cup this afternoon. biggrin.gif
JAGZ1876 Posted Y'day, 11:08am
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 13th Oct 2019, 11:27am) *
Jagz, some of the countries in the EU are in it because they rely on countries like the UK, Germany and France, in a financial sense. Italy, Greece, to name two as examples.

Regarding your comments about EU citizens being able to vote in the Scotland Independence referendum, why should they have been allowed?

Regarding your comments on Spain. Tell that to the Basque people, whom the Spanish Government allowed to be bombed by German and Italian aircraft, in 1938. Watched it at the children’s matinee in the local cinema.

Then you will find that politicians don’t always keep their promises.

There you go again, saying thatt many experts say this that and the next thing. Now they say we will be fast tracked in. That is just an opinion,!

Danny


Totally sidestepping my point about your misinformed rant about the SNP government.

I think you'll find that the Unionists will demand that EU residents don't get a vote at Indyref2 as they know they'll vote YES.

Again you sidestep my point about the Basque region.

2014 taught us that they don't keep their promises.

With all due respect Danny, i'll take the experts opinion before yours.
DannyH Posted Y'day, 10:27am
 
QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 13th Oct 2019, 10:52am) *
Absolute nonsense Danny, every party in government in the 27 other EU countries (and they all argue for their own self determination) want to remain part of the EU.

So you don't think Austria France Belgium, Germany Bulgaria, Italy etc are independent countries then? I'd love to hear they're response when you tell them that. :lol:

I and everyone else with two working brain cells knew that EU citizens resident in Scotland had the right to vote in the 2014 referendum, why would i need to acknowledge such a common fact?

Not this old debunked 2014 scare story again Danny, for a start the Basque and Catalonian regions were never independent countries like England and Scotland so there is no comparison at all, and i'm sure more people will believe the Spanish foreign minister Josep Borrell's views on behalf of the Spanish government than yours.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-pol...r-idUKKCN1NP25P , saying many experts

I thought you'd be delighted that an independent Scotland wouldn't be in the EU Danny?

The reality is that we comply to all existing EU regulations so there would be no lengthy wait to rejoin, in fact, many experts agree that we would be "fast tracked" in.

https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/10313...-european-union.

Name any party in government in any democratic country in the world that has "plain sailing" Danny?

Jagz, some of the countries in the EU are in it because they rely on countries like the UK, Germany and France, in a financial sense. Italy, Greece, to name two as examples.

Regarding your comments about EU citizens being able to vote in the Scotland Independence referendum, why should they have been allowed?
They are allowed to vote in Scottish Parliamentary elections and local Council elections, but not the UK parliamentary elections. So why should they be allowed to in the Scotland Independence referendum?

Regarding your comments on Spain. Tell that to the Basque people, whom the Spanish Government allowed to be bombed by German and Italian aircraft, in 1938. Watched it at the children’s matinee in the local cinema.

Yes, just wait until Scotland applies for membership of the EU. Then you will find that politicians don’t always keep their promises. One reason being, they might be out of office.

There you go again, saying thatt many experts say this that and the next thing. Now they say we will be fast tracked in. That is just an opinion,!

Danny
JAGZ1876 Posted Y'day, 10:06am
 
QUOTE (carmella @ 13th Oct 2019, 08:56am) *
One of the things we don’t want in this country is a Corbyn led government.

Labour have never been interested in Scotland in the past, let alone the present or future.

However, he did say he would never favour Scottish Indy because he thought in his wisdom, if such a thing was successful, Scotland would suffer awful austerity.

I wonder if he is right?


Don't worry about that Carmella, the English electorate will never allow that to happen.

Totally agree with you there, though you omitted the Tories and LibDems too.

We are already suffering "awful austerity" under Westminster rule that Corbyn and his party along with the Tories and LibDems have forced upon us, and it is only going to get worse post Brexit.

No, he's not.
JAGZ1876 Posted Y'day, 09:52am
 
QUOTE (DannyH @ 12th Oct 2019, 09:33pm) *
The SNP, is the only Nationalist Party in the world to my knowledge, which argues for self determination, provided their country is part of a larger organisation such as the EU.

In short an Independent country is not Independent if it has to comply with the rules of a larger multi State organisation.

You also have failed to acknowledge that EU citizens residents, living in Scotland, were allowed, under EU rules to vote in the Scotland Independence referendum.

Countries like Spain which has the Basque and Catalonian regions are not likely to support the application from a country which has broken away from a EU member state country.

If the UK does leave the EU, an Independent Scotland would have to apply for EU membership. So this would create the same problems arising from Northern Ireland leaving the EU.

It’s not going to be plain sailing for the SNP no matter what the outcome of Brexit is.

Danny



Absolute nonsense Danny, every party in government in the 27 other EU countries (and they all argue for their own self determination) want to remain part of the EU.

So you don't think Austria France Belgium, Germany Bulgaria, Italy etc are independent countries then? I'd love to hear they're response when you tell them that. laugh.gif

I and everyone else with two working brain cells knew that EU citizens resident in Scotland had the right to vote in the 2014 referendum, why would i need to acknowledge such a common fact?

Not this old debunked 2014 scare story again Danny, for a start the Basque and Catalonian regions were never independent countries like England and Scotland so there is no comparison at all, and i'm sure more people will believe the Spanish foreign minister Josep Borrell's views on behalf of the Spanish government than yours.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-spain-pol...r-idUKKCN1NP25P

I thought you'd be delighted that an independent Scotland wouldn't be in the EU Danny?

The reality is that we comply to all existing EU regulations so there would be no lengthy wait to rejoin, in fact, many experts agree that we would be "fast tracked" in.

https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/10313...-european-union.

Name any party in government in any democratic country in the world that has "plain sailing" Danny?
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