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> Uk Independence Referendum - Brexit, Yes or No on EU membership
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Kemedian
post 11th Nov 2019, 08:42am
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QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 10th Nov 2019, 10:23pm) *
I tire...

It's little wonder. Isn't that four Spanish elections now since 2015?

Time for a siesta, before the next one. sleep.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 08:55am
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 10th Nov 2019, 09:18pm) *
With every post you write, inevitably a little more of the disguise falls helplessly to the floor.

We haven't left yet.


But i never said we had left the EU yet Kem, this is what i said, "But the "existing system" will no longer exist when we are ripped out of the EU against our will Zascot".

Clearly Bilbo can see through your disguise. yes.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 09:16am
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 11th Nov 2019, 08:55am) *
But i never said we had left the EU yet Kem, this is what i said, "But the "existing system" will no longer exist when we are ripped out of the EU against our will".

Precisely!

Scottish independence is now predicated on British independence.

Your argument confirms it.

A sorry state of affairs. unsure.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 09:21am
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th Nov 2019, 09:16am) *
A sorry state of affairs. unsure.gif


No this really is "a sorry state of affairs", here's what your fellow Brits think of your Dear Leader Kem.

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1193549390193004544

Oh dear. laugh.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 09:59am
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Sorry to disappoint you, Jagz, but as you've previously acknowledged let me remind you that I'm not wedded to any particular party.

Like most people, I manage to live a separate life, unaffected by opinion polls.

I may or may not wholly agree with the manifesto! ohmy.gif

The outcome of Brexit is unquestionably my singular concern at this election. yes.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 11:40am
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th Nov 2019, 09:59am) *
Sorry to disappoint you, Jagz, but as you've previously acknowledged let me remind you that I'm not wedded to any particular party.


I must have just imagined that you've been singing the praises of the LibDems and their wonderful leader over every other party then? unsure.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 11:53am
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 11th Nov 2019, 11:40am) *
I must have just imagined that you've been singing the praises of the LibDems and their wonderful leader over every other party then? unsure.gif

Vote Lib Dem. Stop Brexit (and Indyref). Simple.

Not saying such outcomes won't produce their own set of difficult challenges, but it will at least wipe clean the constitutional constipation of the last decade.
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post 11th Nov 2019, 01:06pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th Nov 2019, 11:53am) *
Vote Lib Dem. Stop Brexit (and Indyref). Simple.

Not saying such outcomes won't produce their own set of difficult challenges, but it will at least wipe clean the constitutional constipation of the last decade.



The LibDems are part of the "constitutional constipation of the last decade" or had you forgotten about the five years that they were in coalition voting in draconian budget cuts and policies with the Tories?

The only guaranteed way to rid ourselves of Westminster constitutional constipation is independence. yes.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 02:24pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 11th Nov 2019, 01:06pm) *
...constitutional constipation is independence. yes.gif

You got there in the end. wink.gif

Not against budget cuts personally, where required. And neither are you. Vulnerable people and families, the frail and elderly, homeless and unemployed among us should be protected groups, as a rule.

There will be much we can agree on. Independence however, which I view as a purely political project giving power to the politicians not protection for the people, isn't that.
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post 11th Nov 2019, 03:21pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th Nov 2019, 02:24pm) *
You got there in the end. wink.gif

Not against budget cuts personally, where required. And neither are you. Vulnerable people and families, the frail and elderly, homeless and unemployed among us should be protected groups, as a rule.

Independence however, which I view as a purely political project giving power to the politicians not protection for the people, isn't that.



Got where in the end?

You're making things up again, i've never said i'm in favour of budget cuts.

Your Westminster governments have never protected "vulnerable people and families, the frail and elderly, homeless and unemployed" so why do you think they'd have a sudden change of heart now?

And of course regaining our independence is political, but at least the politicians we give the power to will be accountable to us and, and unlike now if they don't do a good job they will be out at the next election, so why do you want us to remain under the rule of the Westminster cabal who have proven time and time again that they couldn't care less about protecting the people?
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post 11th Nov 2019, 04:14pm
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Independence really is no fairytale, yet at least the SNP has had these many years to perfect the art of austerity. Ask any council leader.
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post 11th Nov 2019, 05:29pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th Nov 2019, 04:14pm) *
Independence really is no fairytale, yet at least the SNP has had these many years to perfect the art of austerity. Ask any council leader.



No one said it was a fairytale, although it will be light years better than your austerity ridden nightmare of a union, and the SNP don't need a lecture about austerity from a LibDem supporter.

You do know where the SG get their budget from, don't you? unsure.gif
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post 11th Nov 2019, 08:17pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 11th Nov 2019, 05:29pm) *
You do know where the SG get their budget from, don't you? unsure.gif

At a guess...

here

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or here.

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post 12th Nov 2019, 10:56am
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th Nov 2019, 08:17pm) *
At a guess...

here

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or here.

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Nope, i'm sure it's all very witty, but i don't get it. unsure.gif
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post 12th Nov 2019, 10:59am
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 11th Nov 2019, 11:53am) *
Vote Lib Dem. Stop Brexit (and Indyref). Simple.


Just explain the meaning of the word "Democrats" thats in your party's name if you don't mind Kem?
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