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Posted by: Lennox 21st Aug 2004, 02:18pm

Hello All , I don't know if this is the place for this or not, but here goes, and as warm & helpful as everyone here is I am sure someone will have some knowledge:
I am now on the next quest for info trying to find out how long the Paper mill was in business,(Off Gairbraid Ave) my Granda work there as did my mum, and her sisters,and her brothers, and I am guessing half of Maryhill, My GUncle was a manager for many years (Granda wouldn't take that job). My aunt sent me some birth certificates this week and in 1916, when my Granda was born his Dad was a "Papermill Worker" I am guessing this was the same one, I don't remember two of them when Iwas growing up..
Scotslad , My granda would have liked you , as he was always taking loads of pictures of all around Glasgow, everyplace he went his camera went with him, and as I lived here when he died I never got one of them , so keep posting your great photo's.
Thanks , Lennox

Posted by: rossmckenzie 21st Aug 2004, 03:04pm

Hey Lennox..even my Dad does'nt remember the paper mills but cos of people like Wee Mags we know where they were.Its all flats today that date from the 70/80'maybe and some old cottages on Kelvindale Rd.Some of the Maryhill guys like Mags will be able to tell you stuff about them cos they remember loads of stuff about what this place used to look like.

Rossy

Posted by: wee mags 23rd Aug 2004, 12:50am

I bet your relitives walk down Guthrie st to get to the mills ,I remember them well,I remeber walking by the big doors in the summer they kept them open ,and you could see inside what a marvelouse site to see big rolls of paper being swung on some rig that ran on a rail from one side of the building to the other,my favourite story of the people going to the mill is one day my young sister came in crying and we said :" whats Up Cathy?" "That man sais you didnae dry ma hair and thats why its rusty" [she had red hair] so my wee sister saw him at night when he came up the road and she shouted to him "Away and Boil yer heid mister"and everyone one was laughing ,my mom told him what she told her and the next day he came with a bag of dolly mixtures for his wee rusty heided lassie

Posted by: Lennox 26th Aug 2004, 10:42pm

Hello , Mags you are right it was Guthrie Street, I just could not remember the name I am not sure how long my "family" worked there but I do remember my mother & aunt working there, Iwas about 10, when they both worked on the "swing shift" we kids got to stay at Granda & Grannies, I always loved going there.... I also know that in 1975, it was still open, and my Granda still worked there then , I went to see him at work, before I went back south. sad.gif

Lennox

Posted by: wee mags 27th Aug 2004, 02:10am

the people who worked in the paper mills came up Gairbraid ave down Guthrie St and right turn onto Kelvindale Rd, if you look up the Maryhill posts you will see aphoto of the cottages at the begining of the road that led to the mill biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tom 28th Aug 2004, 06:48pm

Hi Mags My brother-in law was a manager at the Kelvindale Paper Mill untill he retired his name was Charly Boyle.
This is an old picture of the area,it dosent look like you could build flats or anything else here.
Tom


 

Posted by: wee mags 28th Aug 2004, 07:19pm

thanks Tom was that taken on the side of the mill? or the opposite one dry.gif .I remeber seeing all the junk coming out of the mill into the Kelvin

Posted by: Lennox 28th Aug 2004, 10:15pm

Hello, Mags & Tom. Looking at the photo of the river, it brings back some memories: My Uncle was a manager also at the mill till he retired/ mill closed... and my grandda worked there as long as I can remember.
Lennox

Posted by: Tom 3rd Sep 2004, 02:37am

After checking I believe the paper mill was called the Dawsholm Paper Mill

Posted by: wee mags 3rd Sep 2004, 02:46am

yer right Tom

Posted by: Lennox 4th Sep 2004, 12:47pm

Tom & mags , you are the best, it was called Dawsholm Papermill, but I awlays knew it s "Kelvin Dale" It is surpining what you remember when you see it on paper.... While on the subject, any one remember the "Rubber works " in Shuna Street, Mc Leanands, I think unsure.gif
Lennox

Posted by: flim 4th Sep 2004, 09:08pm

Hi Lennox I think it was called McLellans Rubber Works and it backed on to the Forth and Clyde Canal ...Cheers Flim

Posted by: Lennox 4th Sep 2004, 09:11pm

Hi film thanks for the correct name, I knew it backed on to the canal, my grandparents lived in Shuna Street, so I remember it well, just could not recall the name.

Lennox

Posted by: Guest_Irene 8th Feb 2006, 11:17pm

I have just stumbled on the discussion about Kelvindale Paper Mill and I think there is a lot of confusion between two papermills. There was Dalsholm Papermill and Kelvindale PaperMill. I have difficulty recognising the photo as Kelvindale Papermill as I was born in the mill cottages and grew up there leaving when I was 23 years old in 1963. The Managers of the Kelvindale Papermill during that time were. Mr Sandilands followed by Mr. Rankin then Mr. Booth and finally Mr McKechnie. My father was a foreman, papermaker and worked in the mill from aged 13 years until he retired at aged 65. The Charlie Boyle I remember was not a manager. The mill houses were a very close knit community and I had lots of relatives who worked in the mill. I knew every bit of the geography of the mill site. The Glen, The Cottages, The Buildings and the three houses on Kelvindale Road. The Manager of the mill stayed in the biggest house and it was eventually converted into two houses and my own family lived in the first floor conversion until my father retired. In the summer sometimes the girls who did the overhauling of the paper to look for flaws would open the side door and you could watch them working. they wore heavy felt aprons to protect themselves from the paper cutting them. I remember if I had to take a message to my father being allowed into to the machine house where they made the paper. It was an awesome sight. These huge machine making the paper and the noise was deafening. No wonder the men in the machine house all shouted at you when they spoke.

Posted by: aaron king 9th Feb 2006, 05:21pm

re charlie boyle.papermill.i worked in the dalsholm paper mill till it closed ,and charlie boyle was my boss .he later moved to the alliance box in possil.

Posted by: asbo 18th Feb 2006, 06:29pm

Please don't shout Aaron.

Posted by: Bob Thomson 26th Mar 2006, 04:14pm

Re Kelvindale Paper Mill. Just seen the comments for first time. I worked in the laboratory at Kelvindale Mills from '42 -49 apart from spell in army. Scorgie was mill chemist and my boss and later became general mill manager. I headed South to paper mills in England and lost touch . I well remember Willie Davidson, salle foreman and part time football referee, lived in the mill cottages.
All long gone I am afraid, at 78 I have only lovely memories. Bob. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: aaron king 27th Mar 2006, 01:13pm

re kelvindale mill bob ,my late aunt jeanie may worked in the mill.probably in your time ,she was supervisor ,i think my mother worked there as well ,her name was christina anna may

Posted by: Roth 27th Mar 2006, 02:02pm

Aaron, the "salle" where all the girls worked sorting the paper was next to the laboratory where I worked. We could be related !

Posted by: aaron king 27th Mar 2006, 02:31pm

hi roth
my auntie jeanie may was a dedicated spinster,she even knocked back ma da huh.gif

Posted by: rossmckenzie 31st Mar 2006, 10:18pm

These are the old cottages on Kelvindale Rd just before you cross the Kelvin and we always thought these were part of the Kelvindale Mill.....all the flats which surround these cottages were built in the 80's I think and the flats have sometimes been flooded when the Kelvin bursts its banks...I think it flooded here about 95 when the Halfpenny bridge was swept away.


 

Posted by: Paul Rutherford 15th May 2006, 12:12pm

QUOTE (Bob Thomson @ 26th Mar 2006, 05:31 PM)
Re Kelvindale Paper Mill. Just seen the comments for first time. I worked in the laboratory at Kelvindale Mills from '42 -49 apart from spell in army. Scorgie was mill chemist and my boss and later became general mill manager. I headed South to paper mills in England and lost touch . I well remember Willie Davidson, salle foreman and part time football referee, lived in the mill cottages.
All long gone I am afraid, at 78 I have only lovely memories. Bob. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Bob Thomson @ 26th Mar 2006, 05:31 PM)
Re Kelvindale Paper Mill.  Just seen the comments for first time. I worked in the laboratory at Kelvindale Mills from '42 -49 apart from spell in army.  Scorgie was mill chemist and my boss and later became general mill manager.  I headed South to paper mills in England and lost touch . I well  remember Willie Davidson, salle foreman and part time football referee, lived in the mill cottages.
All long gone I am afraid, at 78 I have only lovely memories.  Bob.

Bob thompson (or anyone else) .. My father Joe Rutherford worked at the Kelvin Dale Paper Mill from at least the early 1950s until we moved to Australia in 1959. As a 5 year old I remember going down to the Mill after the day shift and spending time with my dad - he was a foreman/leading hand.

Did anyone know Joe and Mary Rutherford? We Lived in a big house up on the hill (on Kelvindale rd I think). Opposite used to be a railway line. The house was divided into two separate levels. We had the ground floor - it had, I think 3 bedrooms and a big entry hall coming off the front (facing Kelvindale Rd.

It would be amazing to find someone who new my family. I had (have!) an older sister -Rosemary. My mums family name was Gall, and her parents lived around Maryhill, I think.

Hope someone can respond.
cheers

Paul

(Canberra, Australia)

Posted by: Doc 15th May 2006, 12:41pm

QUOTE (Guest_Irene @ 9th Feb 2006, 12:34 AM)
I have just stumbled on the discussion about Kelvindale Paper Mill ...  The Glen, The Cottages, The Buildings and the three houses on Kelvindale Road.  The Manager of the mill stayed in the biggest house and it was eventually converted into two houses and my own family lived in the first floor conversion until my father retired. 

Well, ... I think I lived on the groundfloor for about 4 years until we left in 1959 to move to Australia. My dad worked in the Kelvin Dale Mill - his name was Joseph RUTHERFORD..... laugh.gif

Anyone know him or my mum (Mary Rutherford nee Gall)?

Doc

Posted by: Byrne 26th May 2006, 01:01pm

I currently live at 41 Kelvindale Buildings and am very interested in its history. The couple who owned the flat some years ago were hefferman or somethin like that (began with a H and ended in Man. I think they both worked in the mill. Did anyone know them??? I have seen a few old photos and articles and it is fascinating. There seems to have been a lot of railway lines going in and out of the mill and was there not an old estate house further up the hill?? Think it is knocked down now.

Posted by: byrne 26th May 2006, 01:08pm

I currently live at 41 Kelvindale Buildings and am very interested in its history. The couple who owned the flat some years ago were hefferman or somethin like that (began with a H and ended in Man. I think they both worked in the mill. Did anyone know them??? I have seen a few old photos and articles and it is fascinating. There seems to have been a lot of railway lines going in and out of the mill and was there not an old estate house further up the hill?Think it is knocked down now. Anyone have any comments??

Posted by: rossmckenzie 26th May 2006, 07:09pm

You can still see the remains of old railway bridges crossing the Kelvin between Kelvindale and Kirklee and there is a picture on the Maryhill Rd tenement post in which you can see Kelvindale Rd and the old Kelvindale House which was down here somewhere.
Am fascinated by all this area as well and here is a picture which I know you will recognise because it really has not changed very much at all,apart from the traffic!


 

Posted by: byrne 28th May 2006, 03:09pm

Nice picture.

The folk who used to own the flat were infact Wedderburn and not hefferman, anyone know them??

Posted by: Doc 29th May 2006, 12:45am

I used to live in ground floor level of the big mill-owned house on top of the hill on Kelvindale Rd - but it was about 47 years ago so the memory needs jogging at bit!

Does anyone have photos of these houses etc? Or the view down towards the cottages and the mill? There used to be a large open common to the left of the big house (facing down towards the cottages and mill).

I remember there were numerous rail lines (and yards) on both sides of the Kelvin. There were definitely several tacks and marshalling areas on the Kelvindale side of the river - I remember a line going into the mill. These came off the main line (I think) that ran parallel to Kelvindale Rd (on then opposite side from the big house etc).

As kids we were always in trouble for playing in the railway yards .... and getting into parked engines and guards vans..... don't know how we didn't get killed in retrospect. My poor parents!! ohmy.gif

cheers

Doc

this is a great site btw.

Posted by: rossmckenzie 29th May 2006, 08:09am

Hi Doc,welcome to the GG...Its a pretty awsome site and you will learn loads of stuff on here.
I live in the west end at Kirklee...I think its cool when people tell you about what the place used to be like....I will post u some pictures of Kelvindale Rd now when I have some free time and I have a few old pictures as well..donno if they relate to your time or not but I love seeing old pictures of this place,,,I have posted this before on the Maryhill post but I will post it again...its Kelvindale in the 40's


 

Posted by: Doc 29th May 2006, 01:42pm

Ross

thanx for your offer to post some pics of Kelvindale Rd - that would be great if you get a chance. I will see if i can find some old photos of the house we lived in - will have to chase up my sister who is the keeper of the old photos. Since my Dad passed away a couple of years back I have really missed all his old stories about Glasgow etc. I've started to think a lot about all the things my mum and dad did, and why they left Scotland. I think deep down it broke my mum's heart, though she would have never said so.... immigration is a difficult thing.

Does anyone know if there is a good on-line map or street diretcory of Glasgow? My memory is a bit on the dodgy side and it would help me locate where the many things I do remember fit together.....

And, yes, I'm sure i will learn alot from this board. I must say I rather like the sorts of things people say.... a lot of it reflects good stout hearts and serious thinking. I have spent hours reading back through posts.... who need novels, hey???

cheers to all

Doc

Posted by: frankbuntain 5th Jun 2006, 10:12am

Hi there I lived in 12 Kelvindale Cottages which is part of the William Collins Papermill which was part of the Associated Papermills Group. I had Grandfather (Willie DOWLING), Uncles(Tommy & Willie DOWLING), Aunt (Betty Miekle Nee DOWLING), Mother (Mary Buntain Nee DOWLING), Sisters (Maureen & Liz) and myself Frank Buntain working in the mill. There was housed in an area called the glen which were abandoned and the workers moved to the Cottages and "Buildings" just off Kelvindale Road. Names that I can recall are: McCabe, Nimmow, Hamilton, Neeson, Stallon and Russell. It was a great place to growup in we had our own hall where the adults had things lick whist drives and my aunt had her wedding reception. We as dale kids were always treated well by the mill workers and I remember playing on the 9 hole pitch & putt course before it died of neglect. The mill was not part of the Dawsholm Paper Mill. If you have any phots of the mill I would be interested to see them. You can contact me at frankbuntain@hotmail.com.

Posted by: rossmckenzie 9th Jun 2006, 07:59pm

Hi Doc...If I say I will do something then I will do it,even if it might take me a little while.
Its Friday in the UK and the weather is beautiful,has been all week....hot wall to wall sunshine,been eating out on the patio everynight this week just enjoying the rays....tonights is Friday and my mum likes to go for a glass of wine with her business mates...usually the Byres Rd but tonight Lock 27 on the canal so my bro and I biked along to walk her home...we stopped off on Kelvindale Rd to take some pictures...somehow I don't thin'k you will recognise it much but maybe you will....this is Kelvindale 2006 if you recognise anything I would be really impressed!


 

Posted by: rossmckenzie 9th Jun 2006, 08:05pm

I did'nt know if i could post again in here but looks like I can so I will post everything I have...

Kelvindale Rd from what was once Balgray Farm


 

Posted by: rossmckenzie 9th Jun 2006, 08:14pm

Havin a G&T on the lock...the gasometers are just about to go!!!


 

Posted by: rossmckenzie 9th Jun 2006, 08:20pm

sT gregory's


 

Posted by: Catherine 9th Jun 2006, 11:17pm

Ross is St Gregory's the chapel in Maryhill?
I was at a weddin in there once and this looks familiar .
By the way good for you guys for walkin yer mum home, an so ye's should! biggrin.gif

Posted by: rossmckenzie 10th Jun 2006, 05:49am

Its on Kelvindale Rd but on the Maryhill side of the river..am sure Mags has mentioned it before....I have never been in the grounds before but its really nice..they have a wee grotto or something ...pretty cool!


 

Posted by: rossmckenzie 10th Jun 2006, 05:52am

THIS IS 40 &41 but the street numbers are all over the place we can't figure out where they go. all the new flats opposite are like 200's or something.


 

Posted by: rossmckenzie 10th Jun 2006, 05:55am

Kelvindale Rd from Cleveden


 

Posted by: rossmckenzie 10th Jun 2006, 06:17am

All thats left of the bridges to no where.


 

Posted by: Doc 12th Jun 2006, 07:33am

Ross, many thanks for posting the photos of Kelvindale. I did try to reply earlier, but message seems to have disappeared into the ether!

Wow, not much like i remember things - definitely no high rise flats. The 3 tall ones appear to be on what was once a really large workshop area - railways workshops i think. The other (less tall ones in the background) appear to be where they were demolishing old tenaments - but I'm talking 1958-59 !!!!!!

Also none of the buildings on the right side of Kelvindale Road where there from memory - is/was there a railway culvert behind those places??

I do remember the old bridge though ... and the Kelvin... looking at the photos I could smell the damp mossy smell of the river and hear the water....

Not sure where our old house was - but the redbrick 2 storey (flats?) just before the bridge look very familiar - but hard to tell, as I was only 5 or 6 at the time....

This has certainly got me curious - only thing for it is that I will have to come and look around myself. A six month visit to Glasgow (and Europe) sounds just the thing. Thinking about a motorbike tour of Europe (summer!!!)....

many thanks - please post anything else you have; it's all fascinating.

I remember there was a big park (estate?) along the river with what at the time seemed like a huge chesnut grove, tennis courts, stone walls etc..... it was to the left at the river from the bridge on Kelvindale Rd - probably 2 or 3 kilometres along the river past where the old papermill was.

cheers to all

Doc smile.gif

Posted by: rossmckenzie 16th Jun 2006, 08:50pm

Am sorry Doc I can't tell you anymore about the area...this is how I always remember it being but I go looking all the time for information about how it used to look...I know from my friend Mags it was pretty different 50 yrs ago but I have never found any pictures that show you how it looked...well apart from the old aerial ones I posted...Am going to a few lectures this week about the area at the west end festival..so I will try and ask a few questions but these guys are so clued up on it I always feel stupid...
Would be cool if you took your bike around Scotland...my uncle has a bike...freaks my mum out if he takes me out on it. You could have a great time touring Glasgow and Scotland...this is one of the most beautiful places on the planet...to be at places on the west coast as the sun goes down defies anything you can imagine..to stand in Edinburgh as the tattoo blasts out as the lights dim will bring tears to any real Scot....to walk the the course at St Andrews and appreciate among all the foreigners that this is your hallowed ground as a golfer or just to stand on the ramparts of Edinburgh Castle as the 1 o'clock booms across the capital or even be Stirling at the Wallace at feel Scotlands history surround you...to understand why Scots will always be Scots and proud of it.

Posted by: Doc 29th Jun 2006, 01:09am

QUOTE (rossmckenzie @ 10th Jun 2006, 07:12 AM)
Kelvindale Rd from Cleveden

My brother visited Scotland 2 or 3 years back and he just sent me a photo of the house we used to live in - the one in the centre of the photo Ross has posted here look like it is the one.

Great stuff...

cheers

Doc

Posted by: PHYLLIS NEESON 28th May 2007, 09:12pm

QUOTE (rossmckenzie @ 10th Jun 2006, 06:09 AM) *
THIS IS 40 &41 but the street numbers are all over the place we can't figure out where they go. all the new flats opposite are like 200's or something.

hi there, this is a picture of where i was born in number 41. i lived there with my mum and dad and brother Ian. My father George and his father worked in the papermill for many years. I have fond memories of my growing up there as it was a safe place to be.

phyllis neeson

Posted by: tombomb 15th Jun 2007, 02:32pm

hi lennox in maryhill there were two papermills one called dawsholm the other called kelvindale both were on the banks of the river kelvin dawsholm making only brown paper k/dale making all kinds of paper from coloured to paper to paper for the bank of ceylon my father was the trade union chairman for many years i also worked in k/dale for a short time i think the photo you have is of d /holm not a very big mill whereas k/dale was much bigger and is now houses but some of the original workers dwellings are still there today the name of k/dale was hugh collins and was on kelvindale road d/holm was on d/holm road my fathers name was thomas james hope this helps

Posted by: Lennox 18th Aug 2007, 02:11pm

QUOTE (Lennox @ 28th Aug 2004, 10:32 PM) *
My Uncle was a manager also at the mill till he retired/ mill closed... and my grandda worked there as long as I can remember.
Lennox


I just had to put a wee note here, due to an off the cuff comment, that I had made to some one, I have found "relataves" in Canada that know my G Uncle, it was a nice surprise to both of us.
the internet really makes you aware of just how small the world really is . wub.gif
Hopefully we will stay in touch and "our " uncle will be 99 years old later this month , my grandda's birthday would have been on the 20th .

Posted by: Ros 27th Aug 2007, 02:37am

So glad some other peolpe remember the paper mills. My aunties Mary, Cathy and Betty Wingate worked at the mill at Kevindale. I think their sisters Edith and Margaret did also.

My granda Jack Wingate (known as English Jack) and my father Frank Wingate both worked at Dalsholm mill. Granda Jack was given a watch, which I still have, inscribed 'To J Wingate from the Staff 1952'.
He continued as the gate house man after this until he retired. He drank in the Rams Head pub.

I remember clearly going to Dalsholm mill on a Sunday afternoon with my brother to visit Dad and my Granda at work. There was always feral cats there and we were allowed to look but not to touch. I remeber walking over the brige so clearly, it seemed so much bigger then.

We lived in Arden Street, Maryhill (now football fields) at that time, moving later to Drumchapel. The rest of the family came originally from The Valley and up until recently Tresta road in the Cadder.

Sadly only one Auntie left now.

Dad left the mill and went to work for Glasgow Corporation as a joiner and worked in the Drumchapel area until he retired.

Apparently my Granda Jack's family worked the paper mills in Kent.

Rosalind Wingate

Posted by: Lennox 30th Aug 2007, 05:44pm

Ros , I am glad this promted some memories for you , I only have two aunty's left, and one uncle, sad.gif

Posted by: Guest moray fraser * 21st Nov 2007, 12:18pm

Hello folks,

Am glad to find I'm not the only person interested in Kelvindale Papermill etc. I lived in Daleview Avenue 1962-1981. One wet Saturday c. 1963, my dad took me (aged c.8) down Cleveden Road to the canal, then to the aqueduct - water over water!!! then down the lane through the Mill. Can't remember if I saw the locomotive moving that time or was it later. Anyway have been fascinated byr River Kelvin industry ever since. Now does anyone have any good pictures of the now disused railway bridge which crossed the Kelvin between the aqueduct and the railway bridge into the mill? There are only a few pinkish concete piers remaining, and the line entered a tunnel parallel to the canal, crossing under Cleveden Road on its way to Temple Gas works. I presume that line closed shortly after nationalisation in 1948 but I have never been able to find any information on it - just too obscure altogether. My dad used to work for Jebb Wastepaper(recycling) but he used to occasionally take home posters etc for products of Collins' mill.

Moray

Posted by: Judy Mills 30th Jul 2009, 08:45pm

I came across these posts by accident when looking at Kelvindale on Google maps - it awakened memories and a great deal of emotion - but so lovely - thank you. I can add some more as a child at the end of the 50s and early 60s my favourite auntie and uncle lived at 28 The Cottages - the one on the end opposite the loading bay for the mill - the side where the toilets were. My uncle - Arthur Higgins worked in the mill for a great many years until he became ill after too many woodbines around 1972. He was the lovliest kindest man and worked a hughe machine that stirred the paper and I think might have added the colour. I used to wait for him by the office where the men clocked in - especially on Thursdays -- payday. I am now 54 and live in the West Midlands - my aunt Kitty Higgins was Dad's only relative - they originated from Leven in Fife where we lived until 1963. We often walked back along the Kelvin to the weir and where the old bits of bridge are - I have a memory of my mum and dad telling me there were a few houses there and my aunt and uncle lived in the before the move to the cottages - they were often flooded - this would have been early to mid- fifties. Sadly I don't have any photos but have very clear memories - also of walks to feed the squirrels in Dawsholme Park and along the Kelvin to the Botanic Gardens - I loved the hothouses especially the round one with the pool. I still visit Scotland and am proud of my scottish blood my mum is English. Sadly my dad died at age 47 in 1969 and my aunt in 1984. What a trip down memory lane - thank you for the opportunity. Judy

Posted by: Carol Dunn 22nd Aug 2009, 11:23am

I found this forum by accident whilst searching Kelindale Papermill and my goodness the memories are flooding back.

My Grandpa was Willie Davidson a foreman within the papermill and I saw his name mentioned on a couple of posts. I have a very early picture when I must have been about 1 year old of myself and my gran and papa standing outside a big house on Kelvindale Road,I understand he lived there for years before moving to Stonefield Avenue which was just a few minutes walk up from the Mill.

My later memories of the Mill and its surrounding area,around 1971 when I was about 10 years was walking through a huge tree lined area(where we used to collect conkers)where there were derelict houses,I think the walk took you out at the mill cottages?I also remember the River Kelvin next to the Mill being very heavily polluted and my goodness it stank!!My papa used to tell me and my brother it stank because he washed his feet in it.

I also remember being very popular at primary school as I had samples of brightly coloured paper in vivid greens and pinks to show off,courtesy of my papa.

Does anyone remember or heard their relatives mention my papa Willie Davidson?,he was also a football referee.


Posted by: Karen Kerr 23rd Oct 2009, 07:14pm

I just found this great site. My father was born in 1922 at 29 Kelvindale Cottages, his father Thomas Kerr was an electrical engineer at the papermill. The family moved to Viewmount drive in Maryhill I think probably because the housing development was beginning. I saw a posting from 2006 that someone else lived at number 12...was that after 1924 I wonder.

Posted by: Dr Paul Rutherford 4th Dec 2009, 04:42pm


I remember the train still using this in 1958 early 1959

cheers


QUOTE (Guest moray fraser * @ 21st Nov 2007, 12:16pm) *
Hello folks,

Am glad to find I'm not the only person interested in Kelvindale Papermill etc. I lived in Daleview Avenue 1962-1981. One wet Saturday c. 1963, my dad took me (aged c.8) down Cleveden Road to the canal, then to the aqueduct - water over water!!! then down the lane through the Mill. Can't remember if I saw the locomotive moving that time or was it later. Anyway have been fascinated byr River Kelvin industry ever since. Now does anyone have any good pictures of the now disused railway bridge which crossed the Kelvin between the aqueduct and the railway bridge into the mill? There are only a few pinkish concete piers remaining, and the line entered a tunnel parallel to the canal, crossing under Cleveden Road on its way to Temple Gas works. I presume that line closed shortly after nationalisation in 1948 but I have never been able to find any information on it - just too obscure altogether. My dad used to work for Jebb Wastepaper(recycling) but he used to occasionally take home posters etc for products of Collins' mill.

Moray


Posted by: moray 21st Feb 2010, 09:56pm

QUOTE (Dr Paul Rutherford @ 4th Dec 2009, 04:40pm) *
I remember the train still using this in 1958 early 1959

cheers

Really glad to hear from you. Can you tell me more about where exactly on this line you observed the train, and what was its make-up?

Posted by: gmclachlan 18th May 2010, 11:07pm

Hi! Iwas interested to read this discussion as my Great Grandfather was a hereditary manager and member of the board of directors at Kelvindale paper mill, as where family members before him. His name was Alexander Allan. His son, my great uncle, Ramsay Allan, was being trained to be the next in line when the Great War broke out. Subsiquently he joined up and became a bomber pilot with the RFC, what later became the RAF. He was shot down and killed in 1918. He had three sisters thus ended the family connection to the post. My father told me that he and his brother hated the smell of the mill and didn't come up to scratch for the job! My father was in the RAF and so i was born in Kent. Dad was later posted back to Scotland in my early teens and I ended up back in Glasgow, where I met the lady who became my wife. Her mother spotted an aerial photo I have of the Mill and it turned out my wife's grandfather it turned out worked as a supervisor in the paper mill!

Posted by: Lennox 1st Jun 2010, 05:24pm

QUOTE (gmclachlan @ 19th May 2010, 01:10am) *
Dad was later posted back to Scotland in my early teens and I ended up back in Glasgow, where I met the lady who became my wife. Her mother spotted an aerial photo I have of the Mill and it turned out my wife's grandfather it turned out worked as a supervisor in the paper mill!



What was her name ? Welcome to GG .

Posted by: daddymuzza 1st Jun 2010, 07:11pm

[attachment=24664:paper_mill.jpg]picture from 70's


 

Posted by: daddymuzza 1st Jun 2010, 07:19pm

Railway no more




 

Posted by: *Angela* 24th Dec 2010, 12:34am

QUOTE (Tom @ 28th Aug 2004, 06:26pm) *
Hi Mags My brother-in law was a manager at the Kelvindale Paper Mill untill he retired his name was Charly Boyle.
This is an old picture of the area,it dosent look like you could build flats or anything else here.
Tom

Hi this photo is actuall of dawsholm paper mill which is on the other side of the canal futher along the river. you can see a photo of the same bridge on google earth...just type in dawsholm road and you will see a more recent pic of the same bridge just to the lest of dawsholm road

Posted by: Angela Fitz 24th Dec 2010, 12:38am

QUOTE (Guest moray fraser * @ 21st Nov 2007, 11:56am) *
Hello folks,

Am glad to find I'm not the only person interested in Kelvindale Papermill etc. I lived in Daleview Avenue 1962-1981. One wet Saturday c. 1963, my dad took me (aged c.8) down Cleveden Road to the canal, then to the aqueduct - water over water!!! then down the lane through the Mill. Can't remember if I saw the locomotive moving that time or was it later. Anyway have been fascinated byr River Kelvin industry ever since. Now does anyone have any good pictures of the now disused railway bridge which crossed the Kelvin between the aqueduct and the railway bridge into the mill? There are only a few pinkish concete piers remaining, and the line entered a tunnel parallel to the canal, crossing under Cleveden Road on its way to Temple Gas works. I presume that line closed shortly after nationalisation in 1948 but I have never been able to find any information on it - just too obscure altogether. My dad used to work for Jebb Wastepaper(recycling) but he used to occasionally take home posters etc for products of Collins' mill.

Moray

Hi if you loos at mtchell libraray website they have a cracking aerial picture of kelvindale papaer mill showing the railway lines....

http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/index.php?a=wordsearch&s=item&key=WczoxMDoia2VsdmluZGFsZSI7&pg=8

Posted by: Vivien MacKay 31st May 2011, 10:28am

QUOTE (Judy Mills @ 30th Jul 2009, 08:53pm) *
I came across these posts by accident when looking at Kelvindale on Google maps - it awakened memories and a great deal of emotion - but so lovely - thank you. I can add some more as a child at the end of the 50s and early 60s my favourite auntie and uncle lived at 28 The Cottages - the one on the end opposite the loading bay for the mill - the side where the toilets were. My uncle - Arthur Higgins worked in the mill for a great many years until he became ill after too many woodbines around 1972. He was the lovliest kindest man and worked a hughe machine that stirred the paper and I think might have added the colour. I used to wait for him by the office where the men clocked in - especially on Thursdays -- payday. I am now 54 and live in the West Midlands - my aunt Kitty Higgins was Dad's only relative - they originated from Leven in Fife where we lived until 1963. We often walked back along the Kelvin to the weir and where the old bits of bridge are - I have a memory of my mum and dad telling me there were a few houses there and my aunt and uncle lived in the before the move to the cottages - they were often flooded - this would have been early to mid- fifties. Sadly I don't have any photos but have very clear memories - also of walks to feed the squirrels in Dawsholme Park and along the Kelvin to the Botanic Gardens - I loved the hothouses especially the round one with the pool. I still visit Scotland and am proud of my scottish blood my mum is English. Sadly my dad died at age 47 in 1969 and my aunt in 1984. What a trip down memory lane - thank you for the opportunity. Judy

Found this post by accident. We must be related as Uncle Arthur and Auntie Kitty were related to me. I am Annie and Jerry O'Shea's grandaughter. Recently moved back to this side of the city but don't recognise any of the old places. What a small world!

Posted by: *Christine* 28th Oct 2014, 09:22pm

QUOTE (PHYLLIS NEESON @ 28th May 2007, 09:29pm) *
hi there, this is a picture of where i was born in number 41. i lived there with my mum and dad and brother Ian. My father George and his father worked in the papermill for many years. I have fond memories of my growing up there as it was a safe place to be.

phyllis neeson

Hi Ive just come across this site - I know this post is very old so not really expecting an answer...Phylliss are you related to Margaret Neeson

Posted by: *Christine* 29th Oct 2014, 11:16am

QUOTE (PHYLLIS NEESON @ 28th May 2007, 09:29pm) *
hi there, this is a picture of where i was born in number 41. i lived there with my mum and dad and brother Ian. My father George and his father worked in the papermill for many years. I have fond memories of my growing up there as it was a safe place to be.

phyllis neeson

Hi Phyllis, are you related to Margaret Reid Neeson?

Posted by: Guest 11th Jan 2016, 11:17pm

Just reminiscing and have read through all the posts. Interested to read of Wuillie Davidson. I worked in the laboratory from 1954 to 1961 minus two years when on national Service. Wuillie used to come down from the Finishing Dept every morning and afternoon for his tea breaks, the Lab was the only place he was allowed to smoke his pipe, and always on a Monday morning would tell us stories about the game he had refereed on Saturday. He was quite a big man with a real head of dark wavey hair going grey. The Cutting Room was next to the Laboratory and the Finishing Dept was on the floor above. The Chief Chemist was David Provan and his deputy was Harry Sherriff. Bill Stewart, John Rutherford (I think was his name), and Bert Whiteside, were the other lab staff. I know that Harry died some years ago but haven't heard of anyone else since I left. Bob Lambie was the Head Finisher, Bob Scorgie was General Manager succeeded by Ian McKechnie. All the best to any who remember!

Posted by: frankbuntain 21st Nov 2016, 11:25pm

I remember the Wedderburns they lived next door to the Neesons. I lived in 12 Kelvindale Cottages. The photo of 41 has been incorrectly identified as the cottages it is in fact Kelvindale Buildings. My Mothers whole family lived and worked in the mill. Their names were (Grandfather Willie Dowling. Uncle Willie Dowling, Mother Mary Dowling Married name Buntain Aunty Betty Dowling married name Meikle Sister Maureen Buntain Sister Elizabeth Buntain and myself Frank Buntain). My grandfather came from N Ireland to work with the mill horses he was a farrier. My uncle was a guillotine operator. My mother was a finisher. My aunt worked in the lab. My 2 sisters were overhaulers. I was a broke boy in the cutting room. It was a great place to grow up. If this helps to jog some memories I would like to hear them.

 

Posted by: frankbuntain 22nd Nov 2016, 09:41pm

QUOTE (Tom @ 3rd Sep 2004, 02:37am) *
After checking I believe the paper mill was called the Dawsholm Paper Mill


Posted by: frankbuntain 22nd Nov 2016, 09:46pm

You are both wrong. The Dawsholm Paper mill was further up Maryhill and was accessed by the road next to St Marys chaple just opposite the entrance to Maryhill Rd.

The Kelvindale Paper Mill was Edward Collins Paper Mill and was part of the Associated Paper Mills Group.

Posted by: frankbuntain 22nd Nov 2016, 09:53pm

Phyllis Neeson. I remember you and your brother Ian we all played together 'Doon the Dale' You and your family left the 'Buildings' and moved to Cadder around the late 50's early 60's. We used to play in the big house at the end of the cottages where I lived. In the next close to you were the Stallons 2 brothers and a sister Connie. If this brings back memories perhaps you can share them here.

Posted by: frankbuntain 22nd Nov 2016, 09:58pm

Vivien MacKay We lived right opposite your family. We were in No. 12.

Posted by: Stonefield 15th Feb 2017, 07:49pm

My father, John Ainscough, worked as an industrial chemist in the laboratory in the Kelvindale Paper Mill between 1946 and 1951. We moved up to Glasgow after his demobilisation from the RAF in 1946 and lived in Stonefield Avenue. I remember walking with him to the mill on a number of occasions - I was just a small boy in those days. We left to go back to Lancashire when a better job in a sister mill came up in his home town of Horwich. I went back to Glasgow for a week in 2001 - 50 years after last seeing it all - a it was a nostalgic and fascinating experience.

Posted by: *Phyllis neeson* 3rd Aug 2017, 07:38pm

QUOTE (frankbuntain @ 22nd Nov 2016, 09:53pm) *
Phyllis Neeson. I remember you and your brother Ian we all played together 'Doon the Dale' You and your family left the 'Buildings' and moved to Cadder around the late 50's early 60's. We used to play in the big house at the end of the cottages where I lived. In the next close to you were the Stallons 2 brothers and a sister Connie. If this brings back memories perhaps you can share them here.