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> Labour Routed In Glasgow, Every Labour MP in city loses their seat
eidas
post 9th May 2015, 08:43am
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 9th May 2015, 06:18pm) *
Are people not entitled to their opinion eidas, or is that only for people who agree with your political view?

We're all entitled to our opinion, I at no time suggested otherwise! I'm not even in your country but can see where you're going wrong and that's my opinion, take it or leave it mate!
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post 9th May 2015, 08:57am
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I am a socialist at heart, so hate new labour, a well deserved thrashing. As a person from Glasgow, I admire Tommy Sheridan a great Scottish socialist who has been promoting a vote for the SNP and am totally with him on this. It is just a shame that we could not have got rid of the wasters at Westminster at the same time,but hoefully that will be to come.
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post 9th May 2015, 10:12am
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QUOTE (droschke7 @ 8th May 2015, 09:05pm) *
I served and fought for my country I'm entitled to an opinion without muppets trying to degrade me.


Don't degrade others then.
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post 9th May 2015, 10:15am
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JAGZ read back through the posts, you started by calling a little man and then small minded, let's just leave it there and get back to the point of this
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post 9th May 2015, 10:16am
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QUOTE (eidas @ 9th May 2015, 09:51am) *
We're all entitled to our opinion, I at no time suggested otherwise! I'm not even in your country but can see where you're going wrong and that's my opinion, take it or leave it mate!


Do you mean where i'm going wrong or where the country is going wrong mate? unsure.gif
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post 9th May 2015, 10:19am
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QUOTE (droschke7 @ 9th May 2015, 11:23am) *
JAGZ read back through the posts, you started by calling a little man and then small minded, let's just leave it there and get back to the point of this


No you started it by associating the democratic decision of the people of Scotland to the rise of the Nazi's in 30's Germany, stop the insults and stick to the topic of the thread.
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post 9th May 2015, 10:35am
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QUOTE (greta @ 9th May 2015, 09:05am) *
I am a socialist at heart, so hate new labour, a well deserved thrashing. As a person from Glasgow, I admire Tommy Sheridan a great Scottish socialist who has been promoting a vote for the SNP and am totally with him on this. It is just a shame that we could not have got rid of the wasters at Westminster at the same time,but hoefully that will be to come.


It's my humble opinion that Tommy Sheridan is a joke.
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post 9th May 2015, 12:04pm
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Unlike some people here i have no misty eyed recollection of the labour party. Probably like most here i grew up on a housing scheme, also like most here i didn't try to make political capital out of it.. When a certain political party manager did it at first i'm sure i wasn't the only person who thought...AND!!, when he continued to do it i sat there thinking who the hell is he trying to impress because surely anyone who would be like me was thinking big wow you were in a drawer as a baby, so was i and i'm sure many many others. I grew up on a scheme, was it tough, well i didn't think of it as such as a child as we did the things children did back then, fitball, kerby and fight with the neighbouring areas kids. Where we differ is that at 12 we weren't playing fitball on the beach in the sun, naw we were on the red pitch or the dog shit covered grass, so maybe Murphy hears that and thinks thats tough thus he came from it despite moving away when he was 12..
I dont think thats were Labour first went wrong but i do think selecting him as a 'leader' shows how completely out of touch they are with a lot of the public and it was the final nail in the coffin for them. How many of their ranks went from Uni to Labour researcher to Politician with no real graspe of life outside, they became the political class instead of the representatives of the working class. Now i'm sure there are good people amongst Labour, some of whome lost their jobs but fought for the people and community and probaly feel they've become victims of something they couldn't control. What they should do is take back the party and kick out the careerists, the ones who became politicians for all the wrong reasons and stop acting like they're in the opposition. Even when in government they were the same, the enemy isn't the SNP it's the ones within their own party and the people have been telling you this for years. In 2007 they booted your arse, they did it again in 2011 when you didn't listen, but this year the boots on your head because again it didn't listen. Continue down the same path and you might find yourself as relevant as George Galloway.


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post 9th May 2015, 12:07pm
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I suppose even the SNP bigwigs are astonished by the routing of labour and other political parties from Scotland, even though they were sanguinely optimistic of the outcome.
However, an election that resulted the representation of Scotland in the Westminster Parliament by virtually all SNP MPs does not suggest a call for independence of Scotland that was determined only recently. One could see the result as a mandate for the SNP to represent the people of Scotland in the Westminster Parliament in London. Only snag is, with a small majority that might be enough for the Conservatives to get through another 5 year term of government, SNP may not have much leverage to influence the British government to focus on Scottish devolution and autonomy of Scottish government, notwithstanding the Cameron’s pledge during the referendum to do so.
Is the Scottish independence that voters are concerned of or the security of a stronger economy, wellbeing and prosperous future of the people, I wonder?
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post 9th May 2015, 12:32pm
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an election that resulted the representation of Scotland in the Westminster Parliament by virtually all SNP MPs does not suggest a call for independence of Scotland


No one on here has said it does, even Nicola Sturgeon herself has emphasised this.
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post 9th May 2015, 12:40pm
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The only people going on about referendums and independence were the three London parties.
Replacing Labour MP's with SNP's in Scotland does not mean more chance of a Tory government however much people try to spin it. Both will vote against the forming of a Conservative government, even labour eventually conceded that it's not the largest party who govern but the one who gets the most votes in the house of commons.
The Conservatives won the election outright because labour under Miliband failed to convince the people in England they were fit to govern.. What is now going to come back to haunt the Tories is that they throughout the campaign said it would be undemocratic and unconstitutional for the SNP to have a say over England if they returned enough MP's, well the opposite must also be true that it's undemocratic and unconstitutional for the Tories to have a say over Scotland because as a country we rejected ALL the UK parties..


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post 9th May 2015, 03:09pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 9th May 2015, 11:27am) *
No you started it by associating the democratic decision of the people of Scotland to the rise of the Nazi's in 30's Germany, stop the insults and stick to the topic of the thread.

erm no all I said was that they were as Gullible as the Germans were then, I in no way said that the SNP were Nazi's
read it properly
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post 9th May 2015, 03:31pm
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QUOTE (droschke7 @ 9th May 2015, 04:17pm) *
erm no all I said was that they were as Gullible as the Germans were then, I in no way said that the SNP were Nazi's
read it properly


Too late for back peddling, stay on topic.
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post 9th May 2015, 04:23pm
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Although I left Glasgow many years ago, I still have great memories as a youngster of doing volunteer work for the Tradeston area of Glasgow... John Rankin, and then a lady who went on to become Mayoress of Glasgow, Jean Roberts.

Some really interesting comments here, but didn't notice anything about the Trident Missile site that hangs over Scotland. Is this not an issue? Maybe I am a bit "Misty-eyed" as one write said, however I never did feel "poor" even in a crumbling South Side tenement. As a city kid life was always full and interesting. In retrospect we were living in poverty by any standard, and at the risk of sounding 'Pollyannish', this background has stood me in good stead all my life.
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post 9th May 2015, 05:12pm
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QUOTE (ElliotShinwell @ 8th May 2015, 10:06am) *
I don't know what the voters of Glasgow were thinking of. Fair enough a lot of voters want an independent Scotland, and I have no problem with that. But what voters all over the country have done is play in to the dirty, backstabbing Tories!

The SNP put the Torys back in power they kept on saying they would back up Lab.

CaMoron said SNP would back Lab if that wasn't a blog what is. SNP knew this would happen and the real Scott's will not forget what Sturgeon has done. Independence NO chance now.

Glasgow East End a 20 year old girl come on whos kidding who a kid who won't know her **** from her elbow.
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