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> Tories Can't Find Glasgow North East, A photo exclusive not from Springburn
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post 13th Nov 2009, 10:20am
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By that election result it looks as though the SNP could,nt find GNE either.
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post 13th Nov 2009, 11:11am
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QUOTE (North Canalbank St @ 13th Nov 2009, 10:18am) *
By that election result it looks as though the SNP could,nt find GNE either.

Nice one. But with the Conservatives coming a remarkable third perhaps Ruth Davidson and Davy Camerons visit to Tam Shephards in Queen Street was worthwhile.

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post 13th Nov 2009, 11:35am
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Slightly bemused at anybody thinking the Scottish Tories getting 1075 votes and coming third is a remarkable result.
In the 1979 election in almost the same constituency, Glasgow Springburn, they got ten times the number of votes and came second.
A 1000 votes for a crackpot might be seem as some sort of success but a 1000 votes for a majority polical party in a by election is bordering on disastrous.
Maybe the tories could tell us how many votes they would have got, had they a very poor candidate, 100,200,300.
Thats the lowest number of votes,1075, for a tory in any by election anywhere in the UK during the last hundred years.
Yes or No.
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post 13th Nov 2009, 01:46pm
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re s n p low vote could it be the folk in springburn arent interested in a ten month candident nothing can be done by labour in that time as nothing has been done in the last 70 yrs springburn has sufferd labour ingratetude for to long i think the next election will seperate the the parties on what the snp has done (under all goverments moneteray restictions) and what the nothings that labour and con govs have done to scotland in 70yrs i am old enough to have seen the distuction to springburn and glasgow in general dont forget who created the poverty in scotland both party s have h qtrs in england is it not the case that england snezzzzzzs scotland gets to die of all ailments yours chippyjim
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post 13th Nov 2009, 05:20pm
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QUOTE (North Canalbank St @ 13th Nov 2009, 11:33am) *
Maybe the tories could tell us how many votes they would have got, had they a very poor candidate, 100,200,300.
Thats the lowest number of votes,1075, for a tory in any by election anywhere in the UK during the last hundred years.
Yes or No.

Yes or no what? It is an unexpected result. For whatever the reasons the Tories were out there with the people from Big Brother & Tommy Sheridan - minority parties at odds of 100/1. It is not just me that thinks it is so.

I cannot comment on what happened in former years. I do think you are right that if they had a poor candidate, they would have had significantly less votes, and for sure would have lost their deposit. But I'm not in a position to have a stab of what the vote would be - your figures would be as good a guess as I could make.

The point I was trying to make earlier that if the SNP had a better candidate in my opinion they would have got more votes. Perhaps not enough to eat away at Labour's huge 8000 majority but certainly more votes than they did get. Unfortunately, I don't think the same logic would apply to Labour - with that sort of constituency and demographic mix Homer Simpson could have got in for Labour.

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post 13th Nov 2009, 10:31pm
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Is picking a candidate the hardest thing in the world, seems so if your the Scottish Goverment party.
Was the guy second, third or fourth choice.
Did nobody in the SNP think of a certain chap from Milton who would have blown the by election wide open with one topic.
Organized crime.
But no, lets go with a smoothy off the BBC who seemed a nice guy but with certain cult like religous baggage.
Want to win a by election then pick a good candidate.
What was needed was a political street fighter not a glamour boy.
The seat was there for the taking but no, lets ditch the Aiport Rail link to give Labour a chance.
Why not drop the rail link the day after the election.
Worries me that if running a by election is so hard for the SNP then maybe running an possible independent country is completely beyond them.
Maybe time to ditch the whole cosy tartan shortbread thing once and for all.
And get some young half decent political operators that the labour party seems to come up with in spades.
Beating Labour in their heartlands is no easy task but sounding like 1950s wee tories ain,t going to get you anywhere.
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post 14th Nov 2009, 01:26am
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QUOTE (FiddlerMig @ 5th Nov 2009, 07:01am) *
It is interesting to read folks views on the political scene in Scotland.
I have recently moved back to Scotland after about 43 years, and 30 of those years were spent living and working in England. So I have a bit of catching up to do, I have noticed that Scottish people are much more interested and switched on politically. Since returning to my homeland I have become interested in the SNP, and I know I have a bit of reading up to do and I shall keep informed as much as possible by reading this forum and reading the newspapers. I don't have a telly.
I am in favour of Independence for Scotland.
In my opinion, we need to steer well clear from the Labour party and and that awful Tory candidate , David Cameron with his fascist, power mad policies.

Just to let you know we have moved on since 43 years ago.

The wee tory lassie was quiet open about being a lesbian

Front page of the Pink News.

Almost said a baw hair between her and the BNP but that would be just silly now, would,nt it.
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post 14th Nov 2009, 04:28am
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What I found to be discouraging about this campaign was the extremely low turnout of only 33 per cent of the electorate. l went into Springburn to vote yesterday and found that there were only two of the thirteen parties who had activists at Springburn Library. Neither of them were Labour men. I spoke to them both at length and could see just how bad a turnout it was going to be.
For anyone to claim that the voters were behind them no matter who won with this sort of turnout is living in cloud cookoo land. To think that 67 percent of voters in this area are so turned off by politics that they prefer not to bother is shocking, but not a surprise given the shenanegans at Verminster.
Personally, I think it's rather sad that this area can only look forward to more of the same. We deserve better.
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post 14th Nov 2009, 08:31am
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Almost said a baw hair between her and the BNP but that would be just silly now, would,nt it.

Yes it would. The election is over. The people have spoken. I've got my money from the bookies. The end.

Lets move on.

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post 14th Nov 2009, 10:35am
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Seems Queen Victoria did,nt believe there was such a thing as a Lesbian. Wonder if the leader of the Scottish Tory party holds the same view.
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post 26th Nov 2009, 03:08am
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The fact that she is gay has no baring on whether or not she would be a good candidate ...... the fact she is a Tory on the other hand might have lol

I wish John Smeaton had been voted in ..... I agree he is probably the biggest clown to walk the streets of Glasgow but at least he is a decent working class Glasgow lad. More than can be said about the other 'clowns'
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post 26th Nov 2009, 09:41am
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QUOTE (Paulk @ 26th Nov 2009, 03:06am) *
The fact that she is gay has no baring on whether or not she would be a good candidate ...... the fact she is a Tory on the other hand might have lol

I wish John Smeaton had been voted in ..... I agree he is probably the biggest clown to walk the streets of Glasgow but at least he is a decent working class Glasgow lad. More than can be said about the other 'clowns'

Your right, each to their own and all that, and being a gay women was never illegal in this country unlike being a gay man.
But being a gay woman tory candidate in Scotland was unknown in public until about 3 weeks ago.
Still, its 2009 and anybody that is that bothered, ie creepy wee Glesga Tories i remember in the 1970s, are probably dead.
Hardly to believe the tories had 7 out of 15 Glasgow seats until the 1960s.
So much for Red Clydeside.
Gay or Straight.
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post 5th Nov 2011, 12:43pm
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Ruth Davidson, who stood for the Tories in the Glasgow North East Westminster by-election in 2009, was yesterday elected leader of the Conservative Party in Scotland. In the by-election, Ms Davidson polled less than 2% of the Springburn electorate, 1,075 votes.

Scottish Conservatives elect gay leader
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...r--MSP-May.html

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post 5th Nov 2011, 04:51pm
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QUOTE (GG @ 5th Nov 2011, 01:09pm) *
Ruth Davidson, who stood for the Tories in the Glasgow North East Westminster by-election in 2009, was yesterday elected leader of the Conservative Party in Scotland. In the by-election, Ms Davidson polled less than 2% of the Springburn electorate, 1,075 votes.

Scottish Conservatives elect gay leader
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20...r--MSP-May.html

GG.

But Martin context is everything - if you and others can recall Ruth Davidson did quite a good job in the GNE by-election. She is a more than capable person and in my opinion without her the Tories would have perhaps lost their deposit. If you can mind back I was rooting for her to jump ship to the SNP because their candidate was useless.

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post 6th Nov 2011, 08:16am
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As long as she takes her orders from London she will be as irrelevant as Annabel Grannie knickers!
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