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> Uk Independence Referendum - Brexit, Yes or No on EU membership
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post 31st Mar 2018, 09:33am
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QUOTE (prince21 @ 30th Mar 2018, 11:44am) *
Can Brexit fix Britain? There,s no way i can see it happen. As a remainer i hope I,m wrong. One thing i do know for sure is the few will not lose out. It,s the many i feel sorry for. I can,t see much of a future for them.



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I watched the (mealy mouthed) BBC special news reports all last week, timed to coincide with it being 1 year until Britain officially leaves the EU, in the hope I could learn something new. What I heard from those planning and supporting leave offered nothing tangible but consistently used words like “opportunity” or “optimism”.

Conversely, there was a procession of those representing the hospitality industry, farming, health services, fruit and vegetable growers, the care sector etc who all said there will be a chronic loss of trained, experienced workers that won’t or can’t be replaced by local people.

All this a week after one of our Foreign Secretary first actions, following the Salisbury incident, is to run to our European “friends” to get support. At the same time the man many think will be the next Tory leader, Rees-Mogg, suggests the solution to the Irish border issue is for Eire to leave the EU huh.gif

Did I learn anything, yes I think so. I’ve said before that I thought Brexit would set this country back 30 years, I now think I was being too optimistic sad.gif


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QUOTE (prince21 @ 30th Mar 2018, 11:44am) *
Can Brexit fix Britain? There,s no way i can see it happen. As a remainer i hope I,m wrong. One thing i do know for sure is the few will not lose out. It,s the many i feel sorry for. I can,t see much of a future for them.



An interesting post Prince21. It made me wonder what does the future hold for younger people who currently live in other EU countries at the present time?

I am just presenting some the figures given in the House of Commons library, dated 21 March 2018.

The figures given for the Youth unemployment rate ( 16-24 years old) for the following countries were:

Greece 40%
Spain 38% (second highest)
Italy 35%
France 22%
UK 11.9%

So maybe it is just me, but if I was under the age of 25 and read these statistics, I wouldn't have a clue to who I should trust.

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post 3rd Apr 2018, 10:37am
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QUOTE (DannyH @ 2nd Apr 2018, 10:43pm) *
An interesting post Prince21. It made me wonder what does the future hold for younger people who currently live in other EU countries at the present time?

I am just presenting some the figures given in the House of Commons library, dated 21 March 2018.

The figures given for the Youth unemployment rate ( 16-24 years old) for the following countries were:

Greece 40%
Spain 38% (second highest)
Italy 35%
France 22%
UK 11.9%

So maybe it is just me, but if I was under the age of 25 and read these statistics, I wouldn't have a clue to who I should trust.

Danny Harris

It,s good to quote the figures however the young people of today will not forgive us if Brexit fails them. Many of them have travelled throughout Europe and enjoyed the many benefits the European Union has given them. When i voted to remain i was voting for their future I still believe many people voted on Sectarian grounds and on Immigration only. This despite the fact the vast majority of immigrants contribute a great deal to our economy.
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QUOTE (prince21 @ 3rd Apr 2018, 11:37am) *
It,s good to quote the figures however the young people of today will not forgive us if Brexit fails them. Many of them have travelled throughout Europe and enjoyed the many benefits the European Union has given them. When i voted to remain i was voting for their future I still believe many people voted on Sectarian grounds and on Immigration only. This despite the fact the vast majority of immigrants contribute a great deal to our economy.

Prince, you are entitled to your opinion, which I respect. I am entitled to mine.

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post 3rd Apr 2018, 02:32pm
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QUOTE (DannyH @ 3rd Apr 2018, 11:50am) *
Prince, you are entitled to your opinion, which I respect. I am entitled to mine.

Regards

Danny

You,re correct Danny it,s all about opinions. I only wish people would respect other peoples and their beliefs and cultures no matter where they come from. It,s my opinion we are all immigrants on this planet and all of us should have equal human rights. I only hope Brexit works out well for everyone in the uk . Cheers
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https://www.open-britain.co.uk/background_b...ts_about_brexit


I challenge anyone out there, if there is anyone, to refute any of the points made here. I do mean debunk any of the points, rather than giving us a lot of waffle about giving us back our freedom etc.


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Found this.. How Brits Have Been Brainwashed!!
Forget about Russian meddling or US companies pushing fake and ‘dark’ news on the internet to influence the Brexit vote.

Fake news to influence the UK public to vote for Brexit has mostly come from our very own so-called professional journalists right here in the UK.

Here’s a list of fake news by the UK press over the last 20 years.
Every single story here has been debunked as fake news.

It’s hard to pick just one but my personal favourites are ‘Euronotes cause impotence‘ by the Daily Mail and ‘EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts‘ from the always entertaining Daily Express.
Read through the list and vote for your own ‘favourite’ in the comments section below – the most popular will win a ‘prize’for ‘Most Ridiculous EU Fake News’.

Enjoy (or maybe despair):

EC regulations to ban playgrounds – Daily Express
Rolling acres outlawed by Brussels – The Telegraph
EU to scrap British exams – Sunday Express
Obscure EU law halting the sale of English oak seeds – Mail on Sunday

EU may try to ban sweet and toy ads – The Times
EU to tell British farmers what they can grow – Daily Mail
EU ‘Bans Boozing’ – Daily Star
Light ale to be forced to change its name by Eurocrats – Daily Mail
EU fanatics to be forced to sing dire anthem about EU ‘Motherland’ – The Sun
British apple trees facing chop by EU – The Times
EC plan to ban noisy toys – Sunday People

EU to ban bagpipes and trapeze artists – The Sun
Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules – Daily Telegraph
Straight cucumbers – The Sun

Curved bananas banned by Brussels bureaucrats – The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express

Brussels bans barmaids from showing cleavage – The Sun, Daily Telegraph
Rumpole’s wig to scrapped by EU – Mail on Sunday
Church bells silenced by fear of EU law – Daily Telegraph
Motorists to be charged to drive in city centres under EU plans – Daily Telegraph
EU to stop binge drinking by slapping extra tax on our booze – The Sun

Brandy butter to be renamed ‘brandy spreadable fat’ – The European
British loaf of bread under threat from EU – Daily Mail
Truckers face EU ban on fry-ups – The Sun
EU to ban Union Flag from British meat packs – Daily Express
EU seeks to outlaw 60 dog breeds – Europa News Agency

Double-decker buses to be banned – Daily Telegraph
EU bans eating competition cakes – Timesonline
Now EU officials want control of your CANDLES – Daily Express
21-gun salutes are just too loud, Brussels tells the Royal Artillery – Mail on Sunday

Brussels threatens charity shops and car boot sales – Daily Mail
Plot to axe British number plates for standardised EU design – Daily Express
Women to be asked intimate details about sex lives in planned EU census – Daily Express
British cheese faces extinction under EU rules – PA News

EU meddlers ban kids on milk rounds – The Sun, The Telegraph
British chocolate to be renamed ‘vegelate’ under EU rules – Daily Mail
EU to ban church bells – Daily Telegraph
British film producers warn of new EU threat to industry – The Independent

Kilts to be branded womenswear by EU – Daily Record
EU to ban double decker buses – Daily Mail
Cod to be renamed ‘Gadus’ thanks to EU – Daily Mail
Brussels to restrict drinking habits of Britain’s coffee lovers – Daily Express
EU responsible for your hay fever – Daily Mail, The Times

Condom dimensions to be harmonised – Independent on Sunday
EU wants to BAN your photos of the London Eye – Daily Express
Corgis to be banned by EU – Daily Mail
EU forcing cows to wear nappies – Daily Mail

Eurocrats to ban crayons and colouring pencils – The Sun
Smoky bacon crisps face EU ban – Sunday Times
EU outlaws teeth whitening products – Daily Mail
Domain names – ‘.uk’ to be replaced by ‘.eu’ – Daily Mail

Brussels to ban HGV drivers from wearing glasses – The Times
New eggs cannot be called eggs – Daily Mail
EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen – Daily Mail

UK to be forced to adopt continental two pin plug – Daily Star, Daily Mail
EU targets traditional Sunday roast – Sun on Sunday

English Channel to be re-named ‘Anglo-French Pond’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to force EU flag on England shirts – Daily Mail
EU orders farmers to give toys to pigs – The Times
Firemen’s poles outlawed by EU – Daily Mail

Euro ban on food waste means swans cannot be fed – The Observer
Noise regulations to force football goers to wear earplugs – The Sun
Traditional Irish funeral under threat from EU – Daily Telegraph, The Times
EU to ban high-heel shoes for hairdressers – Daily Express
Commission to force fishermen to wear hairnets – Daily Telegraph
Brussels to ban herbal cures – Daily Express
Bureaucrats declare Britain is “not an island”– the Guardian
EU bid to ban life sentences for murderers – Daily Express

New EU map makes Kent part of France – Sunday Telegraph
EU tells Welsh how to grow their leeks – The Times
EU to ban lollipop ladies’ sticks – News of the World
EU plot to rename Trafalgar Square & Waterloo station – Daily Express
UK milk ‘pinta’ threatened by Brussels – The Sun
EU bans ‘mince’ pies – Daily Mail

Eurocrats say Santa must be a woman – The Sun
Now EU crackpots demand gypsy MPs – Daily Express
Brussels to outlaw mushy peas – The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Times
Brussels says shellfish must be given rest breaks on journeys – The Times

Pets must be pressure cooked after death – Sunday Telegraph
EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts – Daily Express
2-for-1 bargains to be scrapped by EU – Daily Mirror
EU madness: chat up bar girl and pub will be fined – Daily Star
Queen to be forced to get her own tea by EU – The Sun

EU tells women to hand in worn-out sex toys – The Sun
British rhubarb to be straight – The Sun
EU to ban rocking horses – The Sun
Scotch whisky rebranded a dangerous chemical by EU – Daily Telegraph
Brussels ban on pints of shandy – The Times
“High up” signs to be put on mountains – BBC
Euronotes cause impotence – Daily Mail
EU to ban under 16-year-olds from using Facebook – Daily Mail
Strawberries must be oval – The Sun

EU orders swings to be pulled down – Daily Express
Tea bags banned from being recycled – BBC
British lav to be replaced with Euro-loo – The Sun
Unwanted Valentine’s cards to be defined as sexual harrasment – Daily Telegraph
Bosses to be told what colour carpets to buy by EU – Daily Star

EU says British yoghurt to be renamed ‘Fermented Milk Pudding’ – Sunday Mirror
EU to ban zipper trousers – The Sun





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post 14th Apr 2018, 07:44pm
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It's an outrage what these EU bureaucrats want to force on us true Brits, they'll be wanting us to do away with our food banks, austerity and give our elderly decent pensions no doubt, what next, stopping us bombing some Johnny far away Arab country most of us couldn't point to on a map.

Where's my pen?

Dear Daily Mail...... tongue.gif
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post 15th Apr 2018, 12:43am
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They dont seem concerned about the hundreds of food banks in germany so its doubtful they will
be concerned about the UK's.
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post 15th Apr 2018, 10:31am
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They dont seem concerned about the hundreds of food banks in germany so its doubtful they will
be concerned about the UK's.


So the EU isn't as dictatorial as you would have had us believe then DJ? unsure.gif
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post 16th Apr 2018, 12:57pm
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Found this.. How Brits Have Been Brainwashed!!
Forget about Russian meddling or US companies pushing fake and ‘dark’ news on the internet to influence the Brexit vote.

Fake news to influence the UK public to vote for Brexit has mostly come from our very own so-called professional journalists right here in the UK.

Here’s a list of fake news by the UK press over the last 20 years.
Every single story here has been debunked as fake news.

It’s hard to pick just one but my personal favourites are ‘Euronotes cause impotence‘ by the Daily Mail and ‘EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts‘ from the always entertaining Daily Express.
Read through the list and vote for your own ‘favourite’ in the comments section below – the most popular will win a ‘prize’for ‘Most Ridiculous EU Fake News’.

Enjoy (or maybe despair):

EC regulations to ban playgrounds – Daily Express
Rolling acres outlawed by Brussels – The Telegraph
EU to scrap British exams – Sunday Express
Obscure EU law halting the sale of English oak seeds – Mail on Sunday

EU may try to ban sweet and toy ads – The Times
EU to tell British farmers what they can grow – Daily Mail
EU ‘Bans Boozing’ – Daily Star
Light ale to be forced to change its name by Eurocrats – Daily Mail
EU fanatics to be forced to sing dire anthem about EU ‘Motherland’ – The Sun
British apple trees facing chop by EU – The Times
EC plan to ban noisy toys – Sunday People

EU to ban bagpipes and trapeze artists – The Sun
Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules – Daily Telegraph
Straight cucumbers – The Sun

Curved bananas banned by Brussels bureaucrats – The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express

Brussels bans barmaids from showing cleavage – The Sun, Daily Telegraph
Rumpole’s wig to scrapped by EU – Mail on Sunday
Church bells silenced by fear of EU law – Daily Telegraph
Motorists to be charged to drive in city centres under EU plans – Daily Telegraph
EU to stop binge drinking by slapping extra tax on our booze – The Sun

Brandy butter to be renamed ‘brandy spreadable fat’ – The European
British loaf of bread under threat from EU – Daily Mail
Truckers face EU ban on fry-ups – The Sun
EU to ban Union Flag from British meat packs – Daily Express
EU seeks to outlaw 60 dog breeds – Europa News Agency

Double-decker buses to be banned – Daily Telegraph
EU bans eating competition cakes – Timesonline
Now EU officials want control of your CANDLES – Daily Express
21-gun salutes are just too loud, Brussels tells the Royal Artillery – Mail on Sunday

Brussels threatens charity shops and car boot sales – Daily Mail
Plot to axe British number plates for standardised EU design – Daily Express
Women to be asked intimate details about sex lives in planned EU census – Daily Express
British cheese faces extinction under EU rules – PA News

EU meddlers ban kids on milk rounds – The Sun, The Telegraph
British chocolate to be renamed ‘vegelate’ under EU rules – Daily Mail
EU to ban church bells – Daily Telegraph
British film producers warn of new EU threat to industry – The Independent

Kilts to be branded womenswear by EU – Daily Record
EU to ban double decker buses – Daily Mail
Cod to be renamed ‘Gadus’ thanks to EU – Daily Mail
Brussels to restrict drinking habits of Britain’s coffee lovers – Daily Express
EU responsible for your hay fever – Daily Mail, The Times

Condom dimensions to be harmonised – Independent on Sunday
EU wants to BAN your photos of the London Eye – Daily Express
Corgis to be banned by EU – Daily Mail
EU forcing cows to wear nappies – Daily Mail

Eurocrats to ban crayons and colouring pencils – The Sun
Smoky bacon crisps face EU ban – Sunday Times
EU outlaws teeth whitening products – Daily Mail
Domain names – ‘.uk’ to be replaced by ‘.eu’ – Daily Mail

Brussels to ban HGV drivers from wearing glasses – The Times
New eggs cannot be called eggs – Daily Mail
EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen – Daily Mail

UK to be forced to adopt continental two pin plug – Daily Star, Daily Mail
EU targets traditional Sunday roast – Sun on Sunday

English Channel to be re-named ‘Anglo-French Pond’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to force EU flag on England shirts – Daily Mail
EU orders farmers to give toys to pigs – The Times
Firemen’s poles outlawed by EU – Daily Mail

Euro ban on food waste means swans cannot be fed – The Observer
Noise regulations to force football goers to wear earplugs – The Sun
Traditional Irish funeral under threat from EU – Daily Telegraph, The Times
EU to ban high-heel shoes for hairdressers – Daily Express
Commission to force fishermen to wear hairnets – Daily Telegraph
Brussels to ban herbal cures – Daily Express
Bureaucrats declare Britain is “not an island”– the Guardian
EU bid to ban life sentences for murderers – Daily Express

New EU map makes Kent part of France – Sunday Telegraph
EU tells Welsh how to grow their leeks – The Times
EU to ban lollipop ladies’ sticks – News of the World
EU plot to rename Trafalgar Square & Waterloo station – Daily Express
UK milk ‘pinta’ threatened by Brussels – The Sun
EU bans ‘mince’ pies – Daily Mail

Eurocrats say Santa must be a woman – The Sun
Now EU crackpots demand gypsy MPs – Daily Express
Brussels to outlaw mushy peas – The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Times
Brussels says shellfish must be given rest breaks on journeys – The Times

Pets must be pressure cooked after death – Sunday Telegraph
EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts – Daily Express
2-for-1 bargains to be scrapped by EU – Daily Mirror
EU madness: chat up bar girl and pub will be fined – Daily Star
Queen to be forced to get her own tea by EU – The Sun

EU tells women to hand in worn-out sex toys – The Sun
British rhubarb to be straight – The Sun
EU to ban rocking horses – The Sun
Scotch whisky rebranded a dangerous chemical by EU – Daily Telegraph
Brussels ban on pints of shandy – The Times
“High up” signs to be put on mountains – BBC
Euronotes cause impotence – Daily Mail
EU to ban under 16-year-olds from using Facebook – Daily Mail
Strawberries must be oval – The Sun

EU orders swings to be pulled down – Daily Express
Tea bags banned from being recycled – BBC
British lav to be replaced with Euro-loo – The Sun
Unwanted Valentine’s cards to be defined as sexual harrasment – Daily Telegraph
Bosses to be told what colour carpets to buy by EU – Daily Star

EU says British yoghurt to be renamed ‘Fermented Milk Pudding’ – Sunday Mirror
EU to ban zipper trousers – The Sun

Lets hope one day the ordinary people at the bottom will wake up and realise how we have all been brainwashed over the years with all the above fake news. We have all been taken to the cleaners. The Brexit vote in my humble opinion was in main anti immigrant and a large percentage racist. However i have to accept it and hope we the people get to vote on the final deal which i doubt will be better than the one we left
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Lets hope one day the ordinary people at the bottom will wake up and realise how we have all been brainwashed over the years


rolleyes.gif erm! how did the masses get"brainwashed"100 yrs ago M8? most were illiterate. yes.gif


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QUOTE (wombat @ 1st May 2018, 08:47pm) *
rolleyes.gif erm! how did the masses get"brainwashed"100 yrs ago M8? most were illiterate. yes.gif



They were told what to think. yes.gif
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They were told what to think. yes.gif


rolleyes.gif using intimidation, and fear tactics, its all falling into place now tongue.gif


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