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> Scottish Independence, About voting yes/no
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JAGZ1876
post Today, 10:45am
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QUOTE (DannyH @ 21st Sep 2017, 11:18pm) *
Hi Jagz

Regarding your first sentence above, I have no issue with it. If that is how you feel, then that is how you feel.

Regarding your next sentence, you have me at a disadvantage. I now regret that when I joined this forum, I gave my full name. herefore I can't disclose whree I live. However, suffice to say, that if you read any local newspapers throughout Scotland, as distinct from National newspapers, you will find plenty of evidence to support my claim. I will attempt to take a photo tomorrow, of a scene not very far from my house.

If you walk along the River Clyde down through Lanarkshire to Glasgow Green you will find ample evidence of fly tipping.

Regarding your closing statement about recorded crime being exactly what it is, and only a complete and utter moron would think it is a claim that all is well in Scotland, I was struck with disbelief when I saw Bilbo's post agreeing with you.

He must be a moron by your definition, becaase it was he who posted this statistic in support of the SNP.


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Thanks Danny, thats very gracious of you. laugh.gif

How do i have you at a disadvantage?

Everyone knows i live in Beith, and i was asking you for the names of places where there are "no go lawless unpoliced" not where you live.

I do hope you're not going to change "no go lawless unpoliced areas" into a rant about fly tipping?

I was answering your "The SNP claimed RECORDED crime was at it lowest for many years. This gives the false impression that all is well in Scotland, regarding crime levels", nothing to do with bilbo whatsoever.
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QUOTE (john.mcn @ 22nd Sep 2017, 12:25am) *
Danny, Bilbos post was copy and pasted from SNP.org


Now now John, people who live in glasshouses and all that, you have posted press releases from the Labour party in Scotland trying to pass them off as unbiased independent news stories.

I just wish i had the time and patience that you have to dig through the archives but i do remember bilbo catching you out with it.
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I posted a statement from the SNP that recorded crime was at its lowest. Neither the SNP nor I claimed that this meant everything was hunky-dory in Scotland. It is Danny who claims that that implication was made, which is why I agreed with your comment about morons, Jagz.


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I know that, i just don't know why Danny can't seem to understand that too.
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 22nd Sep 2017, 10:17am) *
Yes i do John, do you honestly believe they wouldn't go to such lengths to keep Scotland and her resources?

LOL, so you think that the democratically elected UK government that is answerable to Parliament, UK law and the public, would send in the Armed forces in some sort of coup d'etat to prevent the Scottish parliament from holding a referendum when all it would take is a Scottish judge under Scottish law to tell them they cant. Are you also saying that it would be OK for the SNP to ignore our own laws just to appease people like yourself?


QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 22nd Sep 2017, 10:54am) *
Now now John, people who live in glasshouses and all that, you have posted press releases from the Labour party in Scotland trying to pass them off as unbiased independent news stories.

I just wish i had the time and patience that you have to dig through the archives but i do remember bilbo catching you out with it.


I dont live in a glasshouse Jagz, it is made of brick and all the huffing and puffing you do wont budge its solid foundations.
Now as your usual statements that you can never back up, do you have proof of anything I have tried to pass off as anything other than stated?
If the said article is the one I think it is then if you actually took all of 2 seconds to look at my post then not only would you see that I quite clearly said it was Kezia Dugdale but clicking the link would have taken you to the Daily record where the article was published and where she writes as a columnist.
Strange that you once again imply I have a lot of time to go through 'archives' all the while having over 2,000 posts more than myself . Whats that about glass houses n all that.
My post is there for anyone to see and click on to take you to the article. No passing off or 'someone else posted this on facebook' rubbish, just a credited article and a proper source.

http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.ph...t&p=3732730

BTW it was carmella who twigged that it was originally a copy n paste job from the SNP's website, you might want to ask yer mate why he didn't bother checking out the validity or the original source instead of saying I'm trying to pass off anything.

QUOTE (carmella @ 6th Sep 2017, 05:59pm) *
Hello Danny, Here is the full narrative. Interesting!
SNP Our record


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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 6th Sep 2017, 10:18pm) *
Would you honestly have the Tories with their current record in control of England or Labour currently in control of Wales running Holyrood Carmella?

Be careful what you wish for.

That's quite correct John and this was Jagz's reply which I didn't even bother replying to because the reason I posted that obviously went right over his head.


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QUOTE (bilbo.s @ 6th Sep 2017, 02:34pm) *
It really beggars belief how the anti SNP media such as STV & BBC Scotland has news that can manipulate current affairs 😡
Record health funding - over £13 billion in 2017, £3.6 billion more than when SNP took control
Higher exam passes up by a third since 2007, and SNP investing record amounts in schools to close the attainment gap. £120 million will go direct to schools this year alone.
Free tuition protected, saving students in Scotland up to £27,000 compared to the cost of studying in England.
Free, high quality childcare has been increased to 16 hours a week for all 3 and 4 year olds – up from 12.5 hours in 2007 – and extended to 2 year olds from low income households, saving families up to £2,500 per child per year in total.
SNP continue to meet world-leading climate change targets. And remain well on track to achieve a 42 per cent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2020.
More people in employment in Scotland than the pre-recession high point, outperforming the UK on female employment and inactivity rates.
SNP have kept Council Tax down. Bills are lower in Scotland than in England - by between £300 and £400.
Prescription charges abolished. In England, patients are forced to pay £8.60 per item.
SNP are leading the way on fair pay. Scotland has the highest proportion of employees in the UK paid at least the Living Wage.
Over 60,000 affordable homes completed, with a further 22,000 households supported into home ownership.
16 and 17 year old's now have the right to vote in Scottish Parliament and local government elections.
To help protect jobs and businesses through the recession, SNP slashed or abolished business rates for 100,000 premises – saving small businesses £1.2 billion to date.
Recorded crime in Scotland has reached its lowest level in 42 years.
Scotland, with one of the most progressive equal marriage laws in the world, has been rated the best country in Europe for LGBTI equality and human rights for the second year running.
SNP are standing up for Scottish industry and have secured a future for Scottish steel, the last remaining aluminium smelter at Lochaber, and Ferguson shipyard
If you have read so far great as this is only a snippet from the last ten years.............



If you want to know who wrote this, I haven't the faintest idea, but what does it matter? Argue the facts, if you can.


Just a reminder of the post in question. You're a better man than I am Gunga Din if you can see where Bilbo.s makes references to the originator.


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The post I made clearly stated at the time that I did not know the author, nor did I care. Unlike some on here I evaluate what is said rather than by whom it has been said. I also challenged anyone to dispute the claims made, which others have failed to even attempt. I discount the waffling from Danny, trying to make the point that the crime figures somehow implied that all was well in Scotland. It did, of course, do no such thing. It was merely a statistical statement, which has now been twisted into a denial of drug abuse and illegal refuse disposal.

I see Lady Muck is using the flimsiest of excuses to avoid answering Jagz's simple question as to whether she thought Tory and Labour administrations in England & Wales were doing a better job than the SNP in Scotland. Keep it up, hen! You're a star!


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QUOTE (john.mcn @ 22nd Sep 2017, 05:06pm) *
LOL, so you think that the democratically elected UK government that is answerable to Parliament, UK law and the public, would send in the Armed forces ...

They say that there's a first time for everything ... but wait ...

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The "Battle of George Square", also known as "Bloody Friday" and "Black Friday", was one of the most intense riots in the history of Glasgow; it took place on Friday, 31 January 1919.[1] The dispute revolved around a campaign for shorter working hours, backed by widespread strike action. Clashes between the City of Glasgow Police and protesters broke out, prompting the Secretary of State for War Winston Churchill to order soldiers and tanks to the city to prevent the violence from escalating due to fears by the UK government of a Bolshevist uprising. It was described as a "socialist revolution" by supporters,[2] as had happened in the 1917 Russian Revolution, and was occurring in Germany and in the Austro-Hungarian Empire while the 'Forty Hours' strike unfolded.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_George_Square


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