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> Glaswegians To Get Mickey Mouse Lessons, Charm school for Commonwealth Games
Mathie
post 20th Jul 2012, 12:40am
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How much is this costing Glaswegins and the Scottish ratepayer .
Time is now to say "NO" to extravigant spending by our elected members both local and national.
Time now to ask , Can we justify the investment in our so-called "SUPERSTARS" to the detriment of local sports development?.
I personally don, t think so. Maybe, at 72yrs old, I might be considered as "An old fart"or a "Grumpy oldMan",but, looking at what the youngsters have In my community (nothing), to the money spent on the "egos" and "fat cats," I believe they are paying too high a price for national glory.
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post 20th Jul 2012, 02:08am
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QUOTE (Mathie @ 20th Jul 2012, 02:55am) *
How much is this costing Glaswegins and the Scottish ratepayer .
Time is now to say "NO" to extravigant spending by our elected members both local and national.
Time now to ask , Can we justify the investment in our so-called "SUPERSTARS" to the detriment of local sports development?.
I personally don, t think so. Maybe, at 72yrs old, I might be considered as "An old fart"or a "Grumpy oldMan",but, looking at what the youngsters have In my community (nothing), to the money spent on the "egos" and "fat cats," I believe they are paying too high a price for national glory.
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No need fro a helmet if anyone gives you flak they are to stupid too understand the situation.
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post 20th Jul 2012, 07:09am
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Mathie, I believe you have made some very good points, and many which I am sure strike a chord with people who are struggling to earn a living, feed their kids, or heat their homes.

No politician has yet been able to justify the spending of hundreds of millions of pounds on one-off sports meetings, mostly because there is simply no definitive proof that such meetings generate a sustained, long-term economic legacy for the majority of peole who are forced to pay for the event. There is also no conclusive research-based evidence that there are significant or sustained benefits in terms of increased participation in sports by local people.

The cost, as it stands just now, for the Commonwealth Games is in excess of half a billion pounds, but that figure is expected to rise substantially. Also, this cost does not include other supporting programmes such as the one which is the subject of this topic, where people are to be trained to become more efficient at serving people who will attend the games.

Maybe we are all just "grumpy"? smile.gif

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post 27th Jul 2012, 06:01pm
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And we are supposed to be a democracy. Perhaps we should take a leaf out of Switzerland book and start having local or regional referendums on major expenditure programs, especially one off events....let the people decide!!


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post 28th May 2013, 03:39pm
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QUOTE (Doug1 @ 27th Jul 2012, 06:09pm) *
And we are supposed to be a democracy. Perhaps we should take a leaf out of Switzerland book and start having local or regional referendums on major expenditure programs, especially one off events....let the people decide!!

I have just read this toopic and think your's is great Idea and one that should be used by the council here as we are the ones footing the bill.
Much as the improvements to the east end and other parts of the city are great I really think that the games are waste of money. Some of these improvements could have been done brining jobs and improving the area without being under the guise of an elite event which most Glaswegiens will not be able to attend.
I go to the gym at the emirates as part of my Glasgow life membership which costs around the same as a private gym at which I would be able to use the spa facilities but I have to pay an extra 25 per month if I want to use the spa at this one. I can use the spa at any other Glasgow life gym but not this one because it's so fancy. I am already paying 36 a month. Another case of providing a two tier system for council tax payers.
The biggest laugh was when joining I was charged a 20 "admin fee" I nearly choked. I already pay 166 a month in council tax which I thought paid for such things as administrators.
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post 29th May 2013, 02:06am
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QUOTE (Doug1 @ 27th Jul 2012, 06:09pm) *
And we are supposed to be a democracy. Perhaps we should take a leaf out of Switzerland book and start having local or regional referendums on major expenditure programs, especially one off events....let the people decide!!

The problem with that is that Switzerland has the money to do what it likes. The very thought the you are living in a democracy???

And incidentally Switzerland is not a democracy by definition. The official name of the country is "The Theocratic Republic of Helvetia".
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post 30th May 2013, 10:13am
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I think that having local or regional referendums for really costly events would be a good way forward but its never going to happen. Most of the events are done by politicians who think about the publicity it will get them in the short term. Thats what its all about for them. These politicians dont care if the huge amounts spent will mean less for the services for ordinary people in the city.

Agree with you CAT that having to pay twice for admin is ridiculous. And how come you have to pay more for a spa at one place than another when our council tax paid for building all of these facilities?? Its about time they stopped building all these fancy flashy buildings for show and started doing what people really want for a price they can afford.
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post 30th May 2013, 10:43am
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Agree with you CAT that having to pay twice for admin is ridiculous. And how come you have to pay more for a spa at one place than another when our council tax paid for building all of these facilities?? Its about time they stopped building all these fancy flashy buildings for show and started doing what people really want for a price they can afford.

I have no problem paying as we have some fantastc facilities but paying twice is a rip off. These facilities are also available to people on bennefits at a reduced cost but from what I understand for some it is a bit out of their budget. Spend less cash make them less flash and then everyone can enjoy it.
As for the games and the cost while it's great to put us on the map I think the costs way out weigh the benefits. Yes we get to have no sustainable housing but I am not sure how many will be for sale and how may for social housing. Surley this investment could have and should have been made without the games.
Am I ranting? I could go on... laugh.gif
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post 30th May 2013, 03:03pm
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QUOTE (CAT @ 30th May 2013, 10:51am) *
Spend less cash make them less flash and then everyone can enjoy it.

Like it!! thumbup.gif

Its in the news today that the squash court that is being built so that TV cameras can film is going to be knocked down after the games finish even though it cost almost a million pounds. Total waste of money.

I believe that only a fraction of the houses built will go to local people. Not ranting do go on.... laugh.gif
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post 6th Jun 2013, 02:16am
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QUOTE (Mathie @ 20th Jul 2012, 12:48am) *
How much is this costing Glaswegins and the Scottish ratepayer .
Time is now to say "NO" to extravigant spending by our elected members both local and national.
Time now to ask , Can we justify the investment in our so-called "SUPERSTARS" to the detriment of local sports development?.
I personally don, t think so. Maybe, at 72yrs old, I might be considered as "An old fart"or a "Grumpy oldMan",but, looking at what the youngsters have In my community (nothing), to the money spent on the "egos" and "fat cats," I believe they are paying too high a price for national glory.
Flak coming. Helmit on

If there were no "Super Stars" what's the point in having sports. No soccer super stars to thrill the massess every week. No Tour de France winners, no olympic gold? Give it all to those who who would not aspire to much other than casual acquaintance with the sport ? What about those dedicated 8 hours a day training seven days a week to achieve greatness not just for themselves and their sport but for their country.
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post 28th Jun 2013, 09:18pm
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There does appear to be a universal sourness about money being spent on this forum on anything except the poor and unemployed. While I am willing to concede that Labour councilors are to my mind venal and self seeking, dedicated to political righteousness and social engineering, there remains a need for progressive modification to the existing infrastructure of any major city any where in the world. A recent post here was bemoaning the lack of festivals that used to be part of the fabric of life in Glasgow. Public indemnity insurance is now universal for any staged event and the ability of councils to comply with this is severely limited.

The Commonwealth games should be welcome in as such, as it is an opportunity to show piece Glasgow and Scotland. Never mind the cost, "the poor will always be with us" and take the challenge of appearing on the international stage. The eyes of millions will be on Glasgow. Show them what this city is capable of.
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post 28th Jun 2013, 11:32pm
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People coming to the commonwealth games, want to see the real glasgow and real people. whoever came up with the idea that people working in the service industry should go through a course to speak proper, many people outside glasgow and beyond love the glesga patter, i bet it was some bowler hat twit that came up with that idea, im begining to think that the scottish covernment and glasgow city council are tories in kilts.
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post 13th Jul 2014, 07:17pm
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These 'Mickey Mouse' lessons are still running, according to a report in today's Sunday Herald:

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Does Glasgow really need lessons in charm...?

I take my hat off to Fiona Young.

It's her job to teach binmen and taxi drivers to be polite and friendly to tourists during the Commonwealth Games. I watch with trepidation as she explains to 10 of Glasgow Taxis' finest that they must not turn the radio up or the intercom off when they have a tricky passenger in the back. Instead they should chat with them, be helpful and above all - smile, smile, smile.

I glance around dubiously. It looks like an episode of Glaswegian Grange Hill - and this is detention. There's a fair bit of eye-rolling and lots of arms are folded. After all, this is common sense, isn't it? Be nice to people. But this is Glasgow. And Glasgow is a friendly city. So why are we teaching Glaswegians to be friendly? ...

Full story here:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/colu...arm-we.24717440

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post 13th Jul 2014, 07:35pm
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Next thing is, they will be giving the bin men top hats so they can doff them to the visiting tourist. wub.gif


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post 13th Jul 2014, 09:02pm
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It would be nice if Glaswegians would be polite to tourists visiting the city. Last time I was in Glasgow I found the people in the street and buses very unfriendly. Eyes rolling and pushing when you didn't know the bus fare etc. At the Vancouver Olympics in 2010 the volunteers were all voted 'the most friendly and helpful.'
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