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> Uk Independence Referendum - Brexit, Yes or No on EU membership
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Kemedian
post 16th Oct 2019, 07:32pm
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QUOTE (ashfield @ 16th Oct 2019, 06:00pm) *
I don't share your optimism. The EU negotiators have done what I would expect them to do and that is act for the best interests of the members states. They have no reason to make concessions for the UK, if it was another country wanting to leave we would be telling them to go and get stuffed.

There are the many EU citizens who have chosen to leave the mainland and come over here to live/work, and all those who'll come after (if) Brexit happens, whose right to fair living standards the EU shares a responsibilty to maintain in any deal.
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post 16th Oct 2019, 10:24pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 16th Oct 2019, 08:11pm) *
Step into the light and honour the special one, eh?

It's religion like, this movement of yours.

I'm not worthy. blush.gif


Well i'll certainly agree about you not being worthy. laugh.gif yes.gif
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post 16th Oct 2019, 10:28pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 16th Oct 2019, 08:32pm) *
There are the many EU citizens who have chosen to leave the mainland and come over here to live/work, and all those who'll come after (if) Brexit happens, whose right to fair living standards the EU shares a responsibilty to maintain in any deal.


Absolute nonsence Kem, the EU don't need to do anything if the UK separates from the union, stop apologising for them.
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Kemedian
post 17th Oct 2019, 08:03am
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 16th Oct 2019, 11:28pm) *
apologising

What are you on about?
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post 17th Oct 2019, 09:43am
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D E A L !

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Fair and balanced.

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post 18th Oct 2019, 05:29pm
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I was responding to a post that Kem made about the thread topic, why do you think everything is about you,

You talk about your National service day's as though we all owe you a debt of thanks for saving the country, well i'll reserve my thanks for the like's of my Father (and everyone elses) who fought against fascism for six long years in real theatres of war.

Jagz, in one of your posts you quite correctly claimed I have resigned from this forum on a number of occasions. Not your exact words, but near enough. I foolishly keep coming back, so I must be addicted. I am genuinely going to make the effort of calling a halt to this addiction, once I have posted responses to you and a couple of others. Then I hope to have closure.

So addressing your post above, I have to correct you on one important issue. Not for myself, but on behalf of the thousands of people who took part, and gave their lives in the Battle of the Atlantic, and other oceans.

Before that, I will respond to your jibe about my National Service days. I have brought up this subject in past posts, to inform younger readers that the end of World War 2 was the beginning of another war for my generation who had been children during the War. Many National Servicemen were killed or badly injured during their time in the Services.

You quite rightly should be proud of your Dad.

Now, I was only an eight years old child when I too was in a theatre of war. I was too young to be aware of this. I was unaware that there was a danger from Submarines attacks. The CORB scheme,(Children’s Overseas Reception Board) only lasted for about three months.

The first sailing was on 27 July, 1940. Even though one ship which had been carrying evacuees had been sunk by enemy on 28 August, 1940, it was decided to carry on with evacuation across the seas. I say seas, because some went as far as Australia.

However, 13th September, disaster struck. The City of Benares was torpedoed. Of the 90 evacuees on board, 77 were killed. Five from one family. As a wee aside, five older children from the same family, survived a direct hit on their London home, from German bombers.

By the way many of the children and adult escorts who were killed, did not die directly immediately from enemy action. No, it was faulty lowering lifeboat gear. The lifeboats overturned, throwing the occupants into the water.

I was lucky, we made it safely, but I learned many years later that we evacuees had been kept indoors one afternoon because dead bodies had been seen in the water.

Some of the escorts, mainly female school teachers also lost the lives. Some died in a cruel way. They had made it safely to Australia, but their ship was torpedoed on the return journey back home. Some were imprisoned by the Japanese, and died whilst imprisoned.

Something in the order of 2000, allied ships were lost during this war, including the Duchess of York. The ship I went over in.

On my return voyage, the war was still on. Submarines were still active.
It was every man for himself at night. The ships all broke ranks and dispersed, to make it harder for the Germans to find the ships bunched up.

Hope I haven’t bored you.

Danny

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Someone posted they had retired with a miserly pension. A number of years ago, an ex merchant seaman was on TV. He had lost both legs by frostbite in a lifeboat, having been on a torpedoed ship. He received no war pension or any other pension, because his employer was a commercial one, not a military one.

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post 18th Oct 2019, 09:29pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 13th Oct 2019, 11:39am) *
I was responding to a post that Kem made about the thread topic, why do you think everything is about you,

You talk about your National service day's as though we all owe you a debt of thanks for saving the country, well i'll reserve my thanks for the like's of my Father (and everyone elses) who fought against fascism for six long years in real theatres of war.


Jagz, it is me back again to continue my response to your above post. I got called away before I could add the following. Sorry.

Your comment regarding “real theatres” of war seem to exclude the Home Front. Places such a Clydebank, and the little remembered German air raid in Maryhill, where German bombers failed to hit their target, the Forth and Clyde canal locks. They missed the canal but destroyed residential buildings in that area.

Closer to my my home, in fact Oakbank School, just across the road, I was in a classroom, where children received serious injuries. Many of them serious.

I was at one end the front row of a classroom, facing the wall the blackboard was on. I was lucky. I was next to the wall separating us from another class.

Those at the other end of the row, were sitting below glass windows which stretched all the way up to the ceiling.

Suddenly there was an explosion. There had been a Barrage Balloon station across from the wall I was facing. Something had gone wrong and the Balloon exploded, killing the ground crew.

The blast went up the narrow street the windows were facing on to. The windows imploded scattering broken glass everywhere. The children sitting nearest to the windows were badly injured. It was bedlam. They were all eight year olds.

I was very lucky. I escaped unscathed. I am posting this just to let you know that the front line isn’t always a battlefield.

Danny
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post 19th Oct 2019, 11:32am
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Today is Souper Saturday.

If our MPs vote to end the debate, what soup would you have to mark the historic ocassion?

Just thought I'd spice up the board a bit.

Mine's is a piping bowl of thick pea and ham, with the obligatory heavily buttered crumbly oatcakes.

Mmmm. biggrin.gif
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post 19th Oct 2019, 01:06pm
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Appetite is patently nonexistent, and has been for too long. We've had our fill. We're sick of it.

MPs are currently voting on our behalf.

Good luck to them and us!
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post 19th Oct 2019, 01:23pm
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QUOTE (Kemedian @ 19th Oct 2019, 12:32pm) *
Today is Souper Saturday.

If our MPs vote to end the debate, what soup would you have to mark the historic ocassion?

Just thought I'd spice up the board a bit.

Mine's is a piping bowl of thick pea and ham, with the obligatory heavily buttered crumbly oatcakes.

Mmmm. biggrin.gif



Sorry Kem, i would find any Brexit soup unpalatable.

You should have gave put the emphasis on THICK. yes.gif
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post 19th Oct 2019, 02:53pm
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It's gazpacho all round, after this PMs latest setback postpones the crucial vote on the new deal.

He is still unbelievably vowing not to extend A50 beyond October. So his next course may yet be a timely serving of porridge. smile.gif
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post 19th Oct 2019, 06:01pm
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QUOTE (JAGZ1876 @ 19th Oct 2019, 01:23pm) *
Sorry Kem, i would find any Brexit soup unpalatable.

You should have gave put the emphasis on THICK. yes.gif


rolleyes.gif bullybase or "brown WINDSOR soup"followed by humble pie laugh.gif



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post 20th Oct 2019, 08:46am
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post 20th Oct 2019, 10:15am
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You have posted a copy of the unsigned letter. Why didn't you post a copy of the other letter (signed)? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50114538#sa-lin...571567998772-sa


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post 20th Oct 2019, 07:40pm
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You have posted a copy of the unsigned letter. Why didn't you post a copy of the other letter (signed)? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50114538#sa-lin...571567998772-sa


so much for his "rather be dead in a ditch"than seek another brexit extension comment tongue.gif


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